 The following is a presentation of TFNN trading hour with your host David White call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at 727-873-7618 now David White and welcome all to another excellent edition of the power trading hour with me and of course it doesn't matter where me is as long as you are with us at this time the appointed time the magical time the following takes place between 2pm and 3pm and uh well what can you say we had a little pop this morning never really understood uh the idea on it uh in the newsletter this morning i compared it to finding out that you'd lost uh your leg and uh it was above the knee a little better just below the knee by a couple inches does it really matter um don't think so i think i would be equally in despair either way but of course uh a lot of people were wow you know you only lost half a leg uh with that inflation data but uh me kind of giving it all back up didn't think there was a lot going on here i don't think that there's well at least options market makers i haven't looked at it but i'll run it during the next break but earlier in the day they're basically thinking about what i said last friday and into monday and that is somewhere between 4400 and 4450 ish we'll see if those things uh they're probably tomorrow or by tomorrow morning they'll be very firm and we probably won't have a lot of action in the indexes uh all the action will be in individual stocks pneumonia i i i just you know when i tune in just to hear it to see what the reaction was and oh wow the core is not uh uh the core inflation is not anywhere close to where we thought it was and i thought that's like telling people that you know the plane ticket really wasn't that expensive if you didn't count in all the other stuff that had to go in on my trip um yeah maybe the plane trip isn't but if you spend five grand and the ticket was 250 you got it on sale for 50 but you still spent five grand is that really a big deal and maybe 50 bucks you know i'll take it but i'm not gonna write home about it and uh just being a slightly lower outside the core uh where the core is where everybody's complaining and thinking about so i am unsure what they were drinking or smoking it's almost 420 isn't it uh is uh all about but certainly i'm kind of thinking that maybe there's you know a little bit of dementia in the market i call it being manic depressive and you know it just seems like the grasping at anything for a sign of good news i just haven't seen it anyway uh give me a call a day it's been far too long since i've had a phone call 877-927-6648 and if you live in lutz 877-927-6648 uh other things what else uh does they market historically go up from the easter holiday we see a significant bounce um i'm not looking for one but over the next couple days we're going to get a much better signal um i think next week a good decision on that's probably going to be thursday's close as i said yesterday if we go up on a lighter volume then that's probably fairly bearish if we go down on lighter volume that's probably a little bit bullish if we just go sideways all this is is probably consolidation in a continuing down move as i said before i'm waiting for that retest of 4110 1407 4115 whatever on the s and p cash i just don't think that we get that tomorrow or on thursday i think um maybe by the first week of may we could certainly see it uh things continue to spin out of control we have a government uh that is uh i'm going to say feckless hopefully that's the right word i'm going to have to go look that back up and make double darn tooting that means what i think uh impotent that probably a better word anyway uh for the causes of massive inflation uh that all root back into energy i don't see that changing uh they've decided to go down with that ship in the elections this fall so we shall see but in the meantime i don't see any reason to think that uh any major pullback uh in energy is probably a reason to buy at least in crude for the summer and by mid summer i suspect uh we'll see another rally uh all the way into christmas on natural gas but uh just very interesting to see uh our national leaders uh we had one uh who uh will remain nameless but uh i always thought he kind of looked like lurch he was over in japan telling him not to buy any of our natural gas because we didn't want to export any um i'm just i'm flabbergasted i'm speechless on at least our energy policy but uh hey maybe someone can call in and explain it to me uh but uh yeah i just doesn't pass the common sense smell test on that anyway uh eight seven seven ninety seven six six four eight email me at path at tfnn.com but one of the good things to think about is uh what i talk about occasionally and that is three-day weekends give a lot of people at an opportunity to think a little bit more and trade a little bit less and not always the direction but the character of the market tends to change if uh you're straight up and straight down uh it tends to get uh uh very uh chaotic and if it's been chaotic after a three-day weekend you tend to see a market that tends to get kind of the rule of alternation i.e. uh chaotic into something that's kind of smooth and predictable maybe not if you're looking at it in five-minute bars but maybe if you're looking at it in daily bars they look yeah that's a nice little trend up and that's a nice little trend down uh but uh so we shall see uh another question is about uh to tell what else do we have anyway uh let's wait for Wednesday Thursday close uh to see whether we'd have a big bounce next week i do not think so i think we're going to continue to uh at the moment uh continue to grind sideways if we're lucky uh but uh you know if you're bearish i mean bullish you probably want the market go down a little bit on no volume into Thursday's close uh to do what do you think uh nougat books uh in udt pulls back here before possibly moving higher okay how much time we don't we have enough 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three seven six one eight and in the tiger's of den trading room a little nod to mr lurch i was more of a munster's fan 13 13 mockingbird lane is where i always wanted to live but eh we all have our dreams uh anyway uh down nine now on the s and p cash but you know we didn't have much volume earlier in the day about 7.2 billion shares now so i'm not seeing a lot uh question on the nug on the nug man on the n u g t the gold miners uh two x um with gold up not doing much uh is holding on the highs my guess is is probably going to go sideways a little while and then uh probably uh uh break through the resistance that is this gap that is at 78 bucks um see where we have uh that gap goes back to a gap down with 2.7 million shares yet 8 million shares in the spike on what was that on the 8th of march so it's not bad you've got enough volume from that spike there you're kind of coming back up but my guess is this thing just probably sits sideways uh and one day we're just going to wake up and it'll be up and above the 78 next stop 85 where we have a gap that goes back where else is out here a little farther apparently let's see um and i would always have looked at this one as the better of the gaps this is a double gap going back to a gap up on november 5th of 2020 you get two days above it and then you get a huge gap down on volume almost 5 million shares uh so that is the line in the sand uh the sort of damocles hanging over our heads but that's where big resistance would be in the nug man in u g t i just thought of that during the break because uh i can't remember it had to be on miami vice where they had one of the comedic relief characters was known as the nug man and that was always stuck with me uh okay question in here about uh metamucil a metamucil verse uh with the facebook defacebook or metamucil however you want to talk about it uh man uh there man i mentioned i've i've probably heard it three times this week uh zuckerberg being mentioned in the same sentence with hitler uh for levels of evil so not a probably not a good place to be um you again i'm thinking all this stuff comes back and retest the lows probably sooner rather than later but uh you've got that low at 186 ish if you can make a trade out of that i think it's okay uh it may take a little longer than you think because this one gave up the ghost a whole lot of it but uh short now because i at least for my risk reward if i've got a double gap i generally wait for that gap to get hit and then see whether i want to go short so just on a risk reward basis um face could for facebook uh metamucil could come back down to 85 185 but i would want to be short at about 260 you see that big double gap after the big long gap then generally they even if it takes a while to get back up there that's probably the next part where you want to get and that would be a fairly large abc on the way down but uh yeah it's uh especially young kids just do not want to be on the metamucil uh 877-927-6648 email me at path at tfnn.com as many many attractive people do okay and basil has his webinar tomorrow at 4 p.m that's nice and what else do we have here okay we got that and we haven't talked about history so let's do a little history and then we'll move on to the rest of our charts on this day in 1981 nasa launches the first space shuttle mission sts one sending the columbia on its maiden voyage this mission intended to prove the feasibility of the space shuttles and specific and reusable spacecraft in general originally set to launch on april 10 problems delayed the launch by two days which caused the launch to occur exactly 20 years after urie gargeron became the first man to fly in space and the first spaceman to be killed by the soviet union uh for uh let's say expressing his free speech beliefs uh he was uh got drunk they put him in a car and drove him off a hill uh at least the popular lore and the documents uh tend uh after the berlin wall fell do tend to uh to say that the nuke man okay we got somebody who remembers the nuke man too i forget what his i'll think about it uh nuke yeah that's who it was comic relief for sa uh for miami vice all these years later uh anyway uh of course the space shuttle was uh never really meant to fly it was a giant lie concocted by nasa because they were afraid that the military would take over all uh space flight uh after the moon landing so they came up with this and then lied by a factor of four at the cost of each shuttle mission uh and of course uh we can see that all these years later and we're right back to uh what the military thought was the cheapest way to fly uh reusable launch vehicles but not reusable capsules that kind of stuff second third story stage stuff but uh always a good story in there when it comes to money and spending for the government but uh yeah what can you say uh we learned a lot and mostly what we learned is space shuttles are enormously expensive and uh troublesome 877-976648 okay what else do we have okay we're not here let's go uh to oh i gotta get another chart back up here uh question about the starbucks uh that's you right that's box right and of course uh coming off the bench after many years in retirement the new ceo as i said i decided to uh and just give a raspberry to everybody that wanted to see the company turn around uh by throwing a huge amount of money away investors were unimpressed uh the only good thing is that we are coming back down into this previous low so far with about half the volume so yeah could you find a low yes am i buying it no we'll talk more about it when we return having fun trading the markets but having trouble finding like-minded individuals to discuss your trading and investment ideas with become an apex predator in the trading markets and join the tiger's den trading room only at tfnn.com the tiger's den is an exclusive trading room where successful traders from around the world come to exchange trades and ideas join the den and 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weikoff called it breakthrough ice which is support kind of like being out there on the lake and just hopping until you break through i kind of think that's where it is now i could be changed over the next couple of days depending on market action but at the moment about all i can think about is that and that is there probably isn't a lot left in the tank um probably just be happy if we don't go higher i mean don't go lower by thursday's close we could just dribble down out there we did cover positions in all the newsletters where i was short for today mostly because we got to all my targets so i went ahead and took the money i wasn't going to get uh wouldn't going to get piggy as they say out there bulls make money and bears make money and pigs get slaughtered uh wasn't going to be an oinker out here but uh yeah we're pretty much when probably i think five percent of the lows at yesterday's close so that we're down just a little probably not a lot uh 399 53 on the s&p cash i was kind of joking yesterday in the tiger's den there's a tv series which i never watched some kind of sci-fi thing i just remember it was called the 4400 so i put that in there as a meme as your meme master uh in the den yesterday but we've got it now um but everything tells me even if it's on light volume we're going to over time probably first week or so of may maybe second week be back down at 4107 to 415 depending on how you do your math but uh good enough for government work um anyway uh we were looking at starbucks got some more emails here let's go through them and waiting for a call i know you're on the line ask me anything we've got a lot of stuff going on here today and i'll try to answer it okay and see okay the first one was what the spies look like i just re-ran uh the uh options that's kind of what they look like right now for the options curve there's a nice little hook there right at 440 so you know can you get into that for the daytime you can but i'm suspecting you got uh 430 808 i'm suspecting that uh thursday at the close that we probably hang on to 440 uh and kind of at the high end of that range would be 440 two-ish so we're kind of right in that now we've kind of broken through it but there's not a lot of volume not a lot of gusto so i'm looking for tighter ranges over the next couple of days why i did not reshort this morning i didn't think that was a lot more going on there okay other questions uh you talked about bowing in that plane crash uh anything more going to happen with them in china from don and uh i was pretty sure um from the places that i read uh that there wasn't going to be a lot about it um you i do want a retest of 167 58 before i would get long in bowing and that has to be on lighter volume too so yesterday's seven and a half million shares is not too bad compared to the almost 14 million shares we saw previously but we still have another five bucks to go now back on the china thing uh are they not going to buy our planes uh i'm pretty sure that that was a suicide what was that a week ago now 10 days ago something like that uh the reason why is china wouldn't let us anywhere near the plane and china has a very interesting cockpit voice recorder uh in that it uploads all the time in real time the cockpit voice recorder so they heard what was going on in that cockpit probably an hour after the plane crashed so they're probably in a lot of mystery and they kept us far away from it they're only letting letting the ntsb uh over there now which and actually when they said that they were now they really meant five days from when they said that which was like yesterday or the day before so they're not just saying come come on over now they're saying well come on over in about a week which kind of makes me think it and of course uh the co-pilot used to be a pilot that got drummed down to being a co-pilot for acting up and they were going to fire him you start seeing a lot of clues out here that just says that was a suicide uh if it was the uh plan plans that are problems that planes have had before you don't go straight down because the plane won't do that you've got to hold the stick straight down uh to do that and not break the plane up and all four corners were there so my guess is you don't hear another peep about this ever because the chinese probably don't want to say that one of their pilots flew the the plane in and that's probably what four or five major ones in the last 20 25 years of pilot suicide and probably the biggest one was a guy that tried to take over and crash a FedEx plane and he mauled three other pilots on the plane i don't think any of them were able to fly they were so beaten up and had to have uh surgery and stuff that guy is in jail for the rest of his life it's not as uncommon as you might think uh okay let's see if anything else so you think uh 4400 for today for a close yes and i think probably you know anywhere from 4400 to maybe 4 425 ish over the next couple of days now if we get some bad news the market is weak but uh if we just go sideways uh all we could be doing is just building up steam to blow through that next week i am not as like i said for probably two weeks now i am extremely bearish does mean we won't have bounces and there won't be times to cover as i did at the close yesterday but uh since i had puts really am i trying to hold out for less next two or three percent which i may have gotten today after and try to give up a hundred percent or more on some of those options no i'm not going after the last five percent uh tom had a guy on and i don't remember his name now i think he was only on a couple of times as a guest host uh who uh and i it was probably the most important lesson i learned about selling when you can although i heard that saying a little bit later when i ran into a gentleman that i traded with uh who went by the non-deplume of a jaded bear who worked on the floor saw some of my work on options and we got uh but uh 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and my guess is uh uh with 15 percent uh just uh use uh their own weapon against them uh or another one but uh yeah i i have a feeling that the board's going to have a very tough time in the ceo probably not long for this world as they continue down the same road of failure uh that they've been on for a while and of course you don't have a lot of volume out here people starting to think that musk will buy the uh another six percent that he actually needs to gain uh pretty much total control um and move everybody else out i think a lot of people that are in it now would be more than glad to get their 45 bucks out of it uh and move on to somewhere else not to be bothered by him or the uh ill functioning management of twitter so that's it okay okay we got that we got that see hey uh scx what's going on with those let's take a quick look uh you pulled back yeah let's go to a little smaller one you i mean you've got some lighter volume highs out here i think you're gonna have to consolidate out for a while on the january 18th high you had 26 million shares you had 25 million shares on march 5th or march 4th uh 50 dollars and 48 cents then you had 18 million shares on march 25th so yeah you're back into the trading range you're going sideways ideally although you may not get it if it would go to 45 bucks where that gap is is most likely support for that so i kind of like that if it got there not saying it will could just go sideways and gain some more steam to go trade trade try for a higher one but you on this uh third really push higher for a new high it ran out of steam and it just may be market conditions that make this thing problematic and you know this is when you've got stocks that are hot that will pull back and when you find a low 45 bucks may seem like quite the deal on fcx okay uh take a quick look at the xle yeah probably every pull back on energy is a buy you just still don't have much in the way of volume 26 million shares two days ago into 100 million share spike again a lot of these stocks both on top and the bottom do start to look like white cough patterns uh that is coming up to what he would call uh ice uh and uh breaking through ice i have to go back and look at those patterns now uh jumping the creek is what he would call it at highs which is uh kind of getting ready and you're going i'm okay oh here but and then of course breaking through ice is on the downside but jumping the creek it just looks like these things may need a little bit more juice and time to get ready i thought that it was going to take probably 14 days off the top of crude prices probably to set up the next rally attempt you had kind of a smaller one today uh in the xle but my guess is you may have yet another week as i said i think probably what's going to happen or what i uh and i'm hallucinating right now and again i trade like i'm driving in fog which is i'm not going to out drive my headlights and all the cars in front of me thinking i can see as far as i think i can see but uh ideally you'd like to see this stuff pull back with light volume i think and about the first week of may and if you got a nice pullback on light volume back then that kind of lines up with the low in the markets i think and that may be the next big rally you'll still be able to make money uh over a couple of days in uh energy but uh i think when we're talking about the big kind of moves with life changing money it's probably going to take a little bit uh let's take a look at the spies as i said uh 4400 for the close today we'll see how close we are for that but my guess is that's probably fairly close and you've got a nice gap there at about forty four uh four four forty two and fifty cents yeah i'm kind of thinking that we could get up there before the end of the week on thursday and not do much uh but go up on light volume especially into the close on friday see the last two short sellers give up on that and then monday uh next week start heading back down for these high volume lows um you never really tested that february 24th low in the spies that had a lot of volume you got mostly into it with 165 million shares but you didn't break it and you know you wanted you know if it would have gone to the same volume but missed by a few pennies or even a buck i may have given it to the spies but uh experience says especially in a dour market that you probably want to see the lows actually tested so what do you get uh 25 points lower still is that 20 20 yeah 25 almost 30 in the spies possible before we find some kind of low uh okay please restate your fundamental factor around uh uh rationalization for the client back into uh early may just generally when i've seen markets that have been weak you generally either rally into may or you sell into may and that first week and i mean how many times have i seen that first week of may be the de facto standard uh of uh giving up the ghost uh from the financial collapse i want to say 2000 may 5th of 2008 um but uh i think you know it was late march i think in 2000 off the dot com high it failed a little earlier but you tend to have kind of a even in a down market a little pulls up and then summer comes uh and people start looking at it and they sell sell sell into bay that's one part of it the other one is high volume lows that have not been tested so do that you're back sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument you have to practice sure but you also need excellent instruction from experts at tfnn you'll get advice and guidance from the authority in technical market analysis and it's not just dry tedious text either tfnn airs live financial content streamed live on tfnn.com and tfnn's youtube channel with tiger tv live every market day from 8 30 a.m to 4 p.m eastern for free each host is an experienced trader and gives their take on the market while taking calls and questions live from around the world from the moment the market opens 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den risk-free with our 30 day money back guarantee and become part of the tfnn trading community tfnn educating investors catch tom o bryan professional trader and educator founder of tfnn also a special guest on cnbc tom will bicep and dissect the markets the tom o bryan show next on tfnn as we get ready to wrap up a really big show we continue to see stocks kind of come down and even the big ones microsoft apple still could be 165 we'll take a look at that next but at least for the big ones and then in the cues like microsoft and apple a little lower on microsoft although it tried to get back up to this gap that goes back to what is that to the 16th of march tried to get back into that kind of roll back down you know you're not doing bad out here we'll see march 8th on microsoft's that 270 48 million share low you only have 22 million shares but i think you can get down to 272 maybe 275 ish take a quick look at apple it um at least from options look kind of like the weaker of the two but actually holding up a little bit better out here now i'll ask close to 167 uh did i actually have that up there i did let's take a quick look at the options on it and draw them come on i know you can nope come on there we go um i mean it best 170 but uh yeah i mean ideally 165 kind of just sticks out there so probably the most 167 50 to 165 ish for thursday's close again uh short and weak options expiration is on thursday so maybe we'll have a little more action i think but uh wouldn't be surprised if all the action comes tomorrow we have a very quiet thursday so when you can not when you have to go back