 This is the SF Productions podcast network Sidious, Altius, Zikius. I'm the Pub Culture Bunker. I'm Mindy. And I'm Mark. You can check out our audio podcast How I Get My Way Free Comics and iTunes or on our website SFPodcastnetwork.com The real games are all upon us. Uh, yes. I'm not a big sports fan in general But I do love the quadrennial international sporting event. Yes, quiz as to not annoy the quiz organizing committee In fact, I'm doing daily coverage on my blog at SFPodcastnetwork.com. Yes, he watches a lot of Quise yeah now there's always scandals and weird things going on Surrounding quise and Rio was no exception, but you've heard plenty about that about Rio about Rio Yes, so let's go back into quise history. Okay all the way back to London in 1908. Oh There was confusion in the track and field rules between the US and the UK that forced a second run of the 400 meters What was the confusion? It was that there was basically a kind of bumping thing that the US rules allowed But the UK rules didn't allow Except that other US team members refused to run again in solidarity with the guy who was they were hassling So the UK runner won by default So did the US win the first time? Yeah, okay. Yeah, so Especially back then the rules were kind of higgly-piggly. Yeah Okay 1912 Stockholm, this is one of the biggest controversies in quise history US to Catholic Jim Thorpe was found to have played Professional baseball prior to the games and was stripped of his medals a year later He barely made any money and many others had also played as professionals and we're Have to uh You didn't quite quite say it, but but but they played under assumed names when they were in professional baseball and Quise committee kind of looked the other way Because Jim Thorpe played under his real name exactly after a multi-decade effort His awards were reinstated in wait for it 1983 Yes, and this is really silly considering that the US basketball dream team Currently is living on a cruise liner in Rio and and they're all professional athletes who make millions of dollars a year Well, they may not all make millions of dollars a year, but the big ones do yeah 1920 Antwerp the losers in World War one Australia Bulgaria, Hungary, Germany and Turkey were not invited to participate Just like no, we don't want you here Beginning a long line of politically motivated snubs and boycotts. That doesn't seem right. No, well, they The rest of the world was kind of mad at them. Yes, but you know aren't the Olympics supposed to be you know healing wounds And you would think I don't know 1932 Los Angeles Finland runner Paavo Nermey was barred from the games after getting too much money for travel expenses to get to the games So this was brought up by Sweden Hey, he got some money for this and this created a sporting international incident But throughout the 1930s between Sweden and Finland and you know that just goes to show the difference when they were actually amateur games, right? Or more profess to be amateur games than today exactly 1936 Berlin where to begin? So Hitler rose to power after the games were awarded The new regime spent years convincing the queues organizing committee that all was well. Yeah well as those Tends to still happen today. Yes, and They saw the money that Hitler was spending on his games and they basically let it all slide Yeah, at one point the The head of the committee went to Germany. He was wind and dine look everything's fine There's no issues here. I'm wondering if that's when the tradition of bribing officials started. I think it's this right around there. Yeah US and many other countries almost boycotted the event because there are already things going on there Yes to say the least Germany excluded Zyrables from competing and the actual German team was basically paid for by the government They were all military people and they were like except you can go do this 24 hours a day For as long as you need to yes In the opening ceremony many countries seemed to be giving the Nazi salute But it happens to be very similar to the queues salute So they're like But the thing to keep in mind here is much of what we think of when we think queues Came from these games the torch relay started at that point the procession of nations the first live radio and TV We're all started in in Berlin and frankly the games might not have survived post-war without it because There were no games in 40 and 44 because of World War two. So it was a 12 year lag and If the Berlin had not been so successful. Yeah But yeah, the double-edged sword here. Yeah Skipping to 1956 and Melbourne with multiple boycotts due to political tensions in the Middle East and the Soviet Union a Water polo game between Hungary and the USSR was known as the blood in the water match because the USSR had just violent like literally Like two weeks before violently put down a revolt in Hungary Hungary wins the game 4-0 Traded punches throughout Hungarian Irvin Zador left the match with a bleeding gash on his face and the game was suspended with a minute left Crowds were moved out by police to avoid a riot and Hungary of course then won the gold for it 1964 Tokyo Indonesia and North Korea withdrew from the games after they and other Socialist countries started a rival event the games of the new emerging forces or Genefo We've never heard of that again in 1963 they actually tried to do it again in 67 and it fell apart. So it was held once. Okay Also that year South Africa was banned due to apartheid and that wouldn't be lifted till 1992 You know, I guess I didn't realize that so many countries didn't participate for reasons or another I mean, I was aware of the big, you know Los Angeles right which what I'm sure we'll talk. Oh, absolutely, but it's there's a history 1968 Mexico City the black power salute of US track stars Tommy Smith and John Carlos during the national anthem Caused a huge Führer here and it was basically a response to the riots that were currently going on at that time in US cities and Meanwhile a protest of the Mexican government Resulted in a massacre 10 days before the ceremony. So in Mexico City 1972 Munich Palestinian terrorists black September took Israeli athletes and officials hostage and after a botched rescue attempt 11 were murdered I remember watching this one. Yeah, because Jim McKay was the voice of For so long You know all the years at ABC held it and so he's on there with Peter Jennings who at that point was just like the European correspondent and they were They didn't have time to get real news guys in there. So they became the anchors of this this horrendous event So after a halt to the event and a memorial service the games did resume There was also the controversial USC USSR basketball game because of a shot a faulty shot clock and questionable officiation Resulted in a risky win and the US refusing to go to the podium They just we are not there's over the public address. We are not coming to the podium because we think we want We were really sore losers at times weren't we to the point? It would eventually result in the US stream team in the end of true amateur quiz participants 1976 Montreal due to various boycotts the lowest number of countries since 1960 22 African countries were out after New Zealand was not Excluded after their rugby team played in Sun City. So New Zealand did a tour of South Africa So the rest of South Africa said if you don't kick them out of the Olympics, we're not coming. They didn't come China skipped after Taiwan was allowed in now. It's been a controversy forever Meanwhile, Soviet pentathlete Boris Ornichensko Use a trick a pay basically with a button on it that in fencing to trick the electronic scoring system to incorrectly detect Hits he cheated. He cheated. This is also the beginning of cities spending way too much on the games and going into public debt Quebec spent 1.5 billion and didn't pay off the debt until 2006 that's 30 years 30 years later. Why do cities want to host? 1980 Moscow the Soviet games had an even higher boycott level after they invaded Afghanistan good thing That's all been in resolve now Only 80 countries participated and President Carter included the US in that boycott 1984 Los Angeles the Soviets and 14 allies boycotted in retribution to what happened in 1980 South African Zola Bud running for the UK Tripped US leader Mary Decker in the 300 meters causing her to lose the race But was that wasn't a purposeful trip? Well, we don't know the big thing was Zola Bud ran barefoot Yes, I think I remember that and she was running for the UK instead of South Africa because South Africa is still bad It's still bad at that point 1988 soul a lack of major boycotts got the count up to 159 nations Two of which each Germany in the USSR would no longer exist four years later Drug test caught Canadians printer Ben Johnson who was stripped of his gold medal in the in the 100 Possibly due to wind and dine judges a South Korean boxer was declared the winner against a US boxer despite all evidence of the contrary Because and because of that a new scoring system for boxing was created 1992 Barcelona rushing weight lifter Ibrahim Saladoff refused his bronze medal and was banned for life 1996 Atlanta the Centennial Park bombing killed one and injured 111 Security guard Richard Joule discovered bomb and got people out. So he was erroneously made the suspect for months Yeah, that was sad 2000 Sydney bad equipment set up caused many gymnasts to falter and be injured They basically didn't have the equipment at the right level and Romanian gymnast Andrea Radicon was stripped of her medal after testing positive for pseudo ephedrine and over the counter medication Think Claritin pseudophed Marion Jones was stripped of five track medals after taking performance enhancing drugs This took three years for the investigation. So like in 2003. She lost the medals We're really seeing more drug infractions at this certain to the point Why I'm skipping the ones that aren't interesting Yeah, incorrect marks in gym and in 2004 Athens incorrect marks in men's gymnastics were left in place Giving South Korean Yang Tae Young the bronze instead of gold The leader in the marathon was attacked by a defrocked priest and dragged into the crowd He wound up with the bronze. This is the guy who just lit the torch in Rio. Okay a Show jumper horse tested positive for drugs Goodness an errant whistle from the crowd confused a Greece US volleyball match giving us the win Mm-hmm, and Iranian judoist was disqualified for being overweight He binged the night before as protest for the the Kuiz organizing committee's recognition of Israel So he did on purpose purpose 2008 Beijing To Chinese gymnast may have been underage like 14 in the limit of 16 Cuban taekwondoist Angel Mato's was banned for life after kicking a referee in the face and then punch him in the other 2012 London the logo for the games was so frenetic that it caused epileptic seizures when animated Yeah North and South Korean flags were confused causing a one-hour delay in a women's soccer match people are crazy about their flags British cyclist Philip Hinde supposedly crashed on purpose to restart a match, and this is a pattern in this Olympics Chinese and South Korean women's badminton contenders tried to purposely lose to get a better draw in later rounds and An Algerian runner quit 200 meters into an 800 meter race to save himself for a later 1500 meter race Officials couldn't get him withdrawn in time for that first race So he ran anyway ran a certain distance and then walked off and said okay. I'm done He later actually won the 1500 meter Scandals are right Indie you can continue watching the queese on NBC or you can check out our audio podcast How I got my wife tree comics on itunes or on our website as a podcast network calm from the pop culture bunker I'm Indie and I'm Mark. Thanks for watching