 What do you think about animal suffering? I think it's bad, I agree with it. You agree that it's bad? I don't like eating meat, but... You don't like it? Well I like it, but I don't know the way to kill them. I couldn't kill it myself because they find you. I want to eat it. The only reason I eat is sightage, you know what I mean? Yeah, well same here. I was conditioned as a child too. I've always eaten meat since I was young. But I realised that my taste and my conditioning didn't mean more than the animal suffering. And if I had any power in how they were treated in my life, you know, I've got power, I can choose not to eat them. And that means that over your lifetime however many animals go to the slaughterhouse because of you will end. What's that shit over there, mate? What is it? Chocolate? This is being in chocolate. Do you like dark chocolate? No, I've got milk though. Yeah, there's a couple. Can't have milk here, can't we? No, there's a couple of like milk. That's made with like plant milk, almond milk. Almonds don't scream when you cut them up, do they? No, I've got milk. Do you know where this is? England, eh? It's deep. No, this is just... I know, I've got that just now. I would kill animals. UK kills animals. Pretty bad, yeah? Yeah. We're not in the UK every year. Where are you from? Italy. Italy, yeah. Italy's not much better. Not much better. Also, there's some problems. Yeah. If I know, we don't like to be... Cruel to animals? No, dogs, yes, though. We don't... We find go-arounds in... Because you can find food, like... From the company, we're about... The international company, they have this kind of food, but... If we go around searching for local food, it's not like they're not keeping it. Yeah, but they still kill them, yeah? They still kill them? Yes. We're saying we don't have to? Yes, I know. To survive, like, you know? Yes, I know. Any way you kill someone that doesn't want to die, we say, like... You know, what's the point? Why are we doing it to them, Paul? Yeah, they've never tried it. Like, they don't want to die? They don't want to be put in this place? Or any place, even in a nice, happy farm? They still get... Cut up? No. Do you have cereal? Yes, I don't. No, I had to use... Do you have cereal? Different way, but... No, no, these are... You often use guns, these kinds of things. Before it was late, so... Yeah, guns... I don't know. Anyways, we say, like... We can eat plant-based pasta, rice, potatoes, lentils, vegetables, fruits, vegan, cheese, vegan, milk, vegan, you know, everything. We're saying that this is unnecessary, you know? What do you think about that? It has been big, big, big. Yeah? You've been vegan. What happened? Conditioning society. No, I'm not. I'm just because I guess... I don't use... I don't have a particular... I don't need nothing to integrate meat, protein. I was my fault, yes, I know. Okay. What's this? What's this? Here. This is some more information, bro. Find out about how... This here? This is about how we... Here. Come. So this is all filmed in the UK? Yeah. Okay. Oh, it's shit. This is how we treat animals so we can eat them? Yeah. So this is dorset, you know what that is? I just knew how we... Oh. So this is common? Yeah. The UK? This is all UK footage? In Rich Kager's Bedfordshire, April 2016. It's for eat. It's where you eat the eggs, you eat the bodies, you drink their milk. Anything to do with the animal? This is majority. The majority, the vast majority. This is where they come from. It's KFC. What do you think about that? Do you think it's necessary? No. It's not necessary? No. You think there's other things to eat other than the animals and what comes out of them? Yeah. Like what? We can eat vegetables. Pasta, rice, potatoes, beans. I'm from Italy, so I love pasta. So me, I'm half Italian. Yeah, you can make a pasta with that. It'll be a vegetarian, but it's hard, man. Yeah, because of society. There's meat everywhere, yeah? You can use the meat. What's harder? Do you think this is harder for the animal? I know. This is harder? Or is it hard to go get a vegan burger? Vegan burger. Vegan burgers are good, bro. They are gone. They get some really good ones, man. Good vegan cheese. They're good. Yeah. In what world is this okay? I don't know. For a sandwich. Like, you go like this. It's finished, it's gone. But this is a life of suffering for an animal. Yeah? Yeah. So the activists go in there, they get the footage, they bring it out and they say, hey, this is where your sandwich come from. Why not try a vegan version? Yeah. Maybe it's better. They also leave a little bit of tiny leaves. Yeah, it's a leaf. It's no better, man. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, they still, they look at the animal like it's a product. Yeah? The animal is food. Or they, you know, they want something from them. They cut their head off. Make a prosciutto. They're not like living beings. They're not like living beings. Yeah, they're not like you and me and dogs, like we care about. They treat them like food. But the animal doesn't think they're food. They just want to live. Yes? You know? That's, we... Yeah, that's a good thing. When you look at something bad that happened and there's a victim, you look at it from the victim's point of view. You don't look at it from the people that are doing it to it. Oh, it's... You look at it from who's been hurt. You're not living from the murder. You're not living from this. Yeah. So, like, if someone hurts a person, we say, how did that person feel with it? Is the person okay? We don't say, oh, you know, I like the way the animals taste. Oh, you know, it's too hard for me to get a vegan meal. It's not, man. You just get a vegetarian pizza with no cheese. Find a vegan place that do vegan cheese. There's a place around the corner here. You know? Anyway, in Tesco's, you can get meat-free, dairy-free, all that stuff, you know? I can pay it easy, easy way. There's Sainsbury's. They've got vegan options all through there. Plant-based meats, even if not, potatoes, rice, pasta, corn, pizza without the cheese, you know? Burritos with beans instead of flesh. Easy. Better for your heart. No heart disease. Less cancer. Let's die of BDs. When you get older, that shit starts to haunt you. It's really difficult, because I have been vegan. They say to me, ah, you like pizza. Do you want some discount? No, I said no. I don't want that. Yeah, they're very food-orientated in Italy. Everything's around food. You know, prosciutto. Come and have my food, and if you say no, then I'll be like, what? My nana. My nuna. She didn't even know what vegan was. She thought chicken was a vegetable. Yes. No, that is, don't... Because to be... Hmm. But what you can do is you can show them, hey. You know? I know everything for air, yes. And non-people don't care a lot. They don't care. They just think animals, they have for us to... Here, bro. Check this out. Here's some more information, right? Okay. If you want to go vegan on the back, all right? Yeah. Challenge 22. They do it for free. They'll look after you. You say, oh, what can I eat? They'll tell you. They'll say, oh, what about this? I need protein. They'll get a registered dietitian to help you. They'll assign a mentor to you, and they'll say, okay, I'm living in the UK. Where can I get this vegan thing? Where can I get vegan pizza? I want it. They can help. It's a website. It's a website. You just sign up. You have one? Yeah, I know. You sign up. Okay, okay. Here's some of this stuff, man. Yeah. The speech. This is all England, land of hope and glory. Wake up, man. Everyone's waking up now. It's like, this is what's happening, so we can have a sandwich. It's like, why? You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. You down or what? Yeah, yeah. We're going to look at it. Look into it, man. Bye, bye. Take care. Peace. Because people see the burger, but they don't see the shit in between. It's not even the way the animals are cured. It's more the chemicals that the animals are eating. I mean the way the chemicals are sprayed onto the grass. They're eating the chemicals. And then what are you eating? Yeah, that's true. That's from a health perspective. Yeah. Veganism isn't really from a health perspective, though. It is healthy. Healthy, yeah. You've seen what the health. But it's more from the individual animal's perspective. With the victim. Because there's a victim when we... Of course. Yeah. Like if we were in their position, like, you would want someone to help you, wouldn't you? Exactly.