 He's one of the five, six hour long of copyright free music. And some of them are just really good remixes. And so, thank you to the music gods for providing that for free. Well, and good morning, everybody. Good morning, Christian. Hello. Hello and welcome to another episode of Microsoft Community Hours, Community Office Hours, sorry. Where we'll be discussing all things Microsoft 365 and answering questions from the community. My name is Christian Buckley. I'm an Office Apps and Services MVP and a Microsoft Regional Director and the Microsoft Go-To-Market Director at AvPoint. And joining me today are Tracy Vanderskif, an Office 365 Coach, Office Apps and Services MVP, and Principal of the GUID stuff based in Johannesburg, South Africa. Good morning. Hello. Also joining our, let's see, Mike Nelson, a Solutions Architect with Pure Storage and a Cloud and Data Center Management MVP, the odd man out for this show, as always, based in Appleton, Wisconsin. And Hal Haas-Dettler, Senior Field Engineer with Roland Shorten Tower in Tucson, Arizona and also in Office Apps and Services MVP. And we will have a little bit later, Neil Hoskinson had an overlap. So Neil will be joining late and Sean will try. He's away from the home office and will try to get back in time to join, but we'll excuse him. No excuses for Mr. Eric Riz. I don't know what he's doing this morning, but, you know, no thank you cards, no reporting in. So is the odd man out here, as you call it? Am I just here for eye candy? Is that it? Apparently. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's why you're paid the big dollars, Mike. Yeah. Yeah. We're still going to see those big dollars. Yeah. We all are. But for our program today, so we're going to be going through and reviewing the latest message center updates. Any juicy tidbits today, Mike? Of course, Christian. Okay. All right. What would a week be without it? Hey, I don't want to do all this additional spend on this fancy theme music for the lead into your segment without, you know, everything. Additional spend. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to copy exactly that. Exactly what you did. I need to have some music like this. And then that's what I did. Yeah. Wow. Disclaimer, please. Yeah. So that we're going to do that. And then we're going to jump in with questions to the community. And yes, and we have our official disclaimer here. I'll share that on screen. Yeah. I do that. No animals, children or mimes were harmed, although we all want to harm the mimes. We do. So it is. Yeah. It is with great restraint that that does not happen. So anyway, anything else going on? Tracy? No. Were you going to get on and do a little soap box? Were you going to talk about? I was. But now you're excluded from that because there's a circle of trust. And this is you. Yeah. I'll just say how the private part of this is going to be. And this is you. I'll just say how the private email afterwards so that you never become part of my conversations again. That's right. So for all that, Tracy was going to, she made the statement as soon as she said it, she said, is before we're recording. She says, since we're not recording, I'll share kind of my, my thoughts about a topic. And so I hit record. And that's why people don't fight in you Christian. That's right. That's why I can't train my dog. It's why my, my children are all, you know, mentally messed up. I've shared this. I know with, with some people before, but I, a couple of years back, I have four adult children and we were sitting around having a family discussion and having some fun. And I said, I said, let me, let me ask how have I, your father messed you up with all of my jokes, my pranks and stuff on you throughout your childhood. So nobody just kind of laughed it off. Like, Oh dad, or they, everybody sat and went, hmm. And then the funny thing is that they each shared the, the thing the most, the way that I broke them. And, and they all had different things. And as an example, my youngest who just got married, he said, this is back in 2018. He says, I'll never be able to hug my future wife. Like, why? Because my practice with him was, you know, come here, give me a hug, give me a kiss, good night, whatever it is, a little kid and all the way up through his teens. He's like, no, you're going to tickle me. I'm not going to tickle. He's like, you're going to tickle me. I said, get over here right now, stern voice. And so he would come over and I would bear hug, pin his arms and then bury my face in the crook of his neck and then, and then just breathe heavily. And he start freaking out, tickling, whispering words, you know, what's wrong? What's wrong, Josh? You know, what's wrong? And he's just like, ah, freaking out. And so, so every time somebody, and I didn't, I thought, it was like, I wouldn't mean I broke you. You can't hug somebody. And I watched my in-laws as they were leaving to drive back to California. My mother-in-law goes to give Josh a hug. My wife and I are watching from down the hallway. And she goes to give him a hug and he goes, and he clutches. And that's how you broke him. And that's how I broke him. That's terrible. Permanently scarred him. Permanently scarred him. I did. I did. Well, now I'm going to have to tell my therapist about Christian as well. It's just a lovely good painful. My love has permanently scarred my child. So, yes, that's right. What is it called in love though? Well, you know, something. Christian is a strange person. He really is. He's trying to attach a nice word. Yeah. What we have, what are you going to need? So, so we have, so we have like Hans, I don't even get a question. So we've got a segment in front of it. Feel free to type it here. If anybody's watching the live stream, feel free to type away, ask the question. We'll, as soon as we get to the questions, we'll add it right to the top. And so with that, Mike, you want to take us on the wild journey that is the Microsoft Message Center. The wild journey, sometimes. Yeah, so this has been a week of massive updates to timelines. Once again, for some reason, they're shifting all the timelines. Everything's getting pushed. Everything's in true Microsoft fashion. Instead of adding a whole bunch of new content or new features like they used to do, now it's all about pushing all the existing stuff. But there are a couple of things, new features that have come out this week. Can I have a pause here, Mike? We are being joined by the venerable Mark Rackley, Chief Strategy Officer at Pate Group, and an Office Apps and Services MVP. See yet another Office Apps and Services MVP based in Harrison, Arkansas. So Mark, thanks for joining. Hey, thanks for having me. I just saw Tracy was on, so I had to join. Oh, thank you. So that I've got someone on my side because the sicko question. Yes, that's right. Alright, so Mike back over. We're just about Mark to start with the message message center updates. Alright, so in the feature confusion department at Microsoft, PowerPoint live, OK? You actually get a present to teams function from PowerPoint for Windows. So you're in PowerPoint for Windows and you now have a button that's going to say present to teams. And it automatically present whatever you have in PowerPoint. Makes sense, right? The issue that I have with this is the requirements. They actually list a bunch of requirements. One is, you know, the obvious stuff. Latest teams desktop app install, latest PowerPoint install. You have to store the presentation on OneDrive for business or in SharePoint. And you have to this one is like. I can't believe somebody actually took the effort to put this, but you actually have to join a teams meeting before clicking present in teams. You can't click on present in teams and then join the team meeting. Make sure you don't get that backwards. But this is a sticker right here. You have to be using a 0365 E3. E5 or 365 for government license. Now this is this is a button, OK? And it's a button to just basically take what you have in PowerPoint and put it up in teams. Why do you need a specific license? Why is that? If you have teams, why can't you just and you have PowerPoint? Why restrict this just to these licenses? That makes no sense to me. Are there other restrictions on other? I mean, I thought E1 and F licenses, like you had the ability to own a meeting. Is that not correct? No, I don't know that. I mean, maybe someone else does. But the point I'm trying to make is it's just a button that allows you to take something in PowerPoint and put it to teams. Why is it that? Why do you have to have that pay that extra money? Why do you have to have that license to use that? That should be a standard feature in PowerPoint. Well, but it's like send a one note. Does any PowerPoint desktop client or is it PowerPoint online? No, desktop. Well, yeah, you don't get desktop with E1. You get desktop with E3. That's true. I'm saying, wait, I don't have an enterprise license because remember, you have standard and business plans as well for small business. But that means I won't have that, even though I've got desktop apps. That's correct. And not only that, but you could have Office 2019. And that's the latest PowerPoint. It doesn't say PowerPoint 365. It says PowerPoint 2019. So I can buy 2019 and I can have a free teams. Why can't I present to that free teams? Well, so my point was that the license should be, it should be consistent with wherever, without that PowerPoint live feature that you can present in a team meeting, own or present, you should be able to do that. That should be available to you. So not just restricted there. So it's confusing to me is that I can create a team meeting and present in that meeting, but if I want to use this new feature, use that button, I have to have an E3 or E5 or BGCC. That's correct. So yeah, it should be one in the same. If I can present content from other license types, I should be able to have that available across the board. In my opinion, it's just another feature, like I mentioned, a feature confusion aspect. It really is. You know, this is akin to, this is when I'm trying to remember that one of the features where Microsoft has announced, oh, with this great new feature that comes out for mobile, for Android only. Yes. Yes. I remember when they made that announcement. I have another one. I have another one coming up. So moving on. From the, it's about time department from Microsoft. You have the ability, and I know you wouldn't believe the amount of departments they have. They have icons from there. Yeah, I bet they do. But they actually now have in public preview a tool to migrate content from Google Workspace to 365. How long have people been asking about this and they've been going to third party vendors and now Microsoft is suddenly saying, oh, we've got this tool now, you can use it. It'll migrate all of your stuff into OneDrive, into SharePoint and into Teams, right from Google Workspace. So I think this is awesome. I just think it took them way too long to get to this point. So. Yeah, there's been many long discussions from the ecosystem, from the partners that have been in space. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. They've had this for a long time. Yeah, yeah. And the third parties have been making a lot of money off that and more power to them really, but Microsoft should have came out with a conversion tool a long time ago. Well, and for, and also those that may be saying, so wait a second, I had two years ago, I leveraged Microsoft and I did some migrations with some things that Microsoft had something available. And I know Microsoft has other migration tools, but they've actually white labeled partner solutions for a number of years as well. Yes. And so what we're talking about is that they've, now there's always the caveats with what Microsoft releases. When they go and go and I'll use the word compete, but it's their partner ecosystem, but they go build in features that third party solution providers have provided for years around that. It's generally not the gold standard of migration. Like I don't know this specifically. I'm not leveraged it. I don't know if anybody here has. It's just preview right now. Just turn public preview last week. But I'll just, I'll venture a guess that it has a lot of limitations that the providers don't have. I would bet, but I think some of the advantages is that it does more than just move a mailbox, because you have some third party providers that all they would do is move a mailbox from Gmail up to 365. It's saying it moves your OneDrive, it moves your SharePoint into SharePoint. So I'm assuming a lot of engineering on the back end there to get like Google sites moved into a SharePoint and all that other kind of fun stuff. So. Yeah, that's, you know, so I've personally not done migration. I'm not in that line of business. Mark, I don't know if you guys have done any of those from over from Google Workspace or the Gmail side of things, but. A couple, not many. Yeah, but in generally speaking about migrations, they're a very iterative process. So a word of warning to anybody looking to go and make that move. And hopefully you realize you've been around long enough to understand that you're not gonna use any magical tool and move 100% over a weekend and you're up and running with something. It's gonna be moving chunks bit by bit. You've gotta do the mapping. You've gotta figure out what other customizations, whatever connections to other line of business applications, other systems, workflows, other automations that have been built that can really slow down that process. And then you get the fun experience of unknown reasons why huge portions of your environment failed to migrate over and go and figure out what happened there. But migrations are a lot of fun. So moving on since Christian has taken up all my time talking about migrations. You have as much time as you want, Mike, come on. No, I don't. You keep telling me that and then off air, off air he yells at me for taking too much time. Just so everybody knows that. That's right. So this is coming from, yeah. What's up with this? I oughta. I oughta. Boy, I oughta. All right, this is coming from the bad idea department. And this ties in with the one that we had earlier. It's an unfortunate department day, by the way. Well, it is a bad idea. Those people don't get promoted. They've never get their full annual bonus for some reason. That's right. That's right. So all whiteboard storage, which I have used quite a bit. I actually really love the whiteboard functionality and the end they built in there. But all whiteboard storage now will be in by default in OneDrive for Business. So you can no longer store it locally. You can no longer store it in OneDrive. You have to store it in OneDrive for Business, which as we all know, does not come with many of the Office 365 plans that are personal. So I actually have some folks that use this on a personal basis to share things like, as an example, they're sharing a bridal shower type of get together and they have it on a whiteboard, a Microsoft whiteboard. Well, they'll no longer be able to do that. Starting in October of 2021, all newly created whiteboards will be stored as files in OneDrive for Business. So you can, all of your existing whiteboards in OneDrive and in files have to be moved over to OneDrive for Business, bad idea, flat out, bad idea. But that's me. Yeah, so, I wonder what the reasoning is for that. They give no reasoning. Because it is a very popular tool set. Yeah, one of those things to make you, hmm. So moving on, we're gonna, you gotta go to another. Once again, let me just point out, it was the bad ideas department that put that feature forward. It was, and the bad idea, you know what's right next to the bad idea department? It's that we're gonna need a bigger boat department. And yeah, we need a bigger boat because now you can access files offline in mobile. Which means that your Teams mobile app will now allow you to access files even when you're offline, which means that all of your Team files will be stored locally on your mobile device. Which means you will need a lot of memory on your mobile device. But will it be a selective sync issue though? I mean, I can't imagine they're just gonna stick everything. I told them, yep, you're absolutely right. It's simply select the files you need access to and Teams will keep a downloaded version to use in your mobile app. However, how many users do you know that just check the box at the top that selects all the files inside of a Teams? No, no, no, no, Mike, I just don't see end users being that irresponsible. I just can't envision it. So. I'm totally wrong on this, Christian, you're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Oh, all right. That's gonna be bad, man. You gotta prep the support team for that. Wow, yeah. It's called job security. Why are you complaining? I mean, you know. It's true. More bad ideas. Come on, more bad ideas. Yeah. Yeah. The larger boat division works. We're gonna need a bigger boat department. Works very closely with the bad idea of department. So, yeah. Exactly. And also with the people that get trained in company's department. Ah, yeah. A lot of those things aren't the issues of people. Get trained. Sorry. Yeah. Tracy, people don't need training. People, they get, they get the whole. It's intuitive. It's intuitive. It's like iPad. Right. Exactly. All right. The next two things are related. And this is coming from the TIL department, which is today I learned it for those of you that are not socially adept to, you know, the whole abbreviated acronym language that's used out there on social media. Anyways, I didn't know that there was such a thing called config.office.com. Anybody use that? Does anybody use config.office.com? I think I have once. Okay. So it's really kind of interesting. I didn't know this existed, but it's related to this next item I'm going to talk about. But this is basically the apps admin center. This is where you can create policies and see different things about your services and be able to look into the apps, manage the applications that are available. Didn't know this existed, but it's related to a correction. And yes, Christian, I am making a correction to something that I previously stated because it was something that it was like, trying to figure out how that would work, right? So last week, if you remember, I mentioned a change they were making about being able to look at users' feedback to Microsoft. Right. Right. And I don't know if it was you or Neil, maybe it was you that actually said, well, will they be able to see who submitted that feedback? Right, yeah, I did say that. Because you can get into a kind of- Is it anonymized? Right. Right, exactly. And what I found out was that they are actually, they have a field that says email that submitted, but it just comes back as redacted. It has the word redacted in it. So it's like, it's there, but they present it to the admin as the term, the word redacted. I have no idea why. I don't even know why they have a field on there. I mean, if it's redacted, if it's gonna be redacted every time, there's why have it there. But they're saying the only way that you can configure that is to go through this config.office.com and you have to configure a policy in order to allow your employees to provide feedback. So that's how I stumbled onto this portal, which is kind of cool. If you go out and take a look at it, but I had never known it was there. I'm suspecting that maybe with an E5 license, you can then change it to actually show that email address. It could be. But if you think about it, if you think about it, Tracy, I bet that since that field is there, it's there to the point that you somehow, you can go in and you can find out because it's just masked. That's all it is. It's just got that term redacted over the top, kind of like the big black marker. You know, it goes over the top. Yeah, I think what we should do is we should start a rumor that there's a very secret E7 license where all of these issues are resolved and that you have Uber control. So anything like we question like the logic of doing this or it's extra steps, you say, well, in the E7 license, it resolves all of that. It's just the magic license. That should be the pro license. Is it E7 Pro? Just in Microsoft 365 Pro. Just takes care of all your problems. Now we're going back to the whole team's pro discussion. Don't get us started on that. That may have been my intention was to kind of check that. But that is it for the 365 message center and updates. Thank you very much. That's right. Once again, there is nothing else that was announced through the message center. Nothing of any great import. Nothing you need to read through and pay attention to. According to. So again, again, I'm only given so much time. And you know, I have to say that I could only do highlights because everything I mean literally updates. Everything, like I said, is updates. Yeah, it's like, well, we moved the timeline for this. We moved the timeline for that. We misspelled a word in our regional posting. That type of thing. Yeah, but I could put out all of them if you like. You know, there was it on that point. I mean, they're about the moving timelines and there was an effort. You remember this. So I know, Mark, you know, you probably recall this where we're with SharePoint at least in the Jeff Teeper world. Said that we're kind of slowing down the rate of information out there that we want to be sure that we know when it's going to be released before we then start talking about it. We don't want to get people excited. And there was, it seemed like, you know, an effort for a while by Microsoft to cross product teams to only talk about and only promote those things which were generated for preview or they're moving forward. And we seem to be, you know, kind of slipped back into talking about things and getting people excited. What is this going to be available? Well, in early 2022, that feature we think will be available. It's like, why are you talking about that right now? Why are you telling us this information? Well, non-SAS apps, I mean, for SaaS apps, they have to keep a roadmap, right? They have to keep that thing going. But I mean, for a non-SAS app, like a, you know, an on-PC office installation, well, yeah, we can say it'll come out sometime in 2022, you know. Yeah, well, my point was that they were trying to do a good job of holding back on things until they were confident that it was going to be released. And now we get more of a mixture of things. And then we also, case in point, would be talking about things which are coming out. And not that I'm all bitter about the pushback of shared channels or anything, but then we get multiple delays to those things pushed back. It's like, well, you know, again, it's great to have insight into the roadmap. And I'd almost say to say, call it a roadmap item and we don't have a date for what it's going to be available. We want to give people ads up because there's various, you know, trial versions. There's, you know, we're working with a number of partners and customers on developing this. And so we want to give insight into it and feedback from the community around the high-level architecture of those items. But don't put dates on it and then move the dates repeatedly. That's all I'm saying. And we're joined by Dr. Neil Hoskinson. Hello and welcome back from your working vacation. Yes. Glad you survived. Yes. I don't see a tan to survive. I don't see the tan. I don't tan. Where's your tan? I tan. I don't know, I go red, then I peel, then I'm white again. That's me. I'm English, I'm from Northern England. We don't tan. Can't tell because you're swathed in the Keith Ritchie violet pews. Okay, I'll drop it off, but I guess I got my actual true vinyl yesterday. I haven't got mine yet. This is not fair. I haven't got mine yet either, yeah. Yeah, fortunately I live like several miles away from Keith, so it was going to do a personal delivery, but he opted for through the post. So there we go. I'm still white. White is white. Well, excellent. Well, we're ready to jump into questions and we may have, Hans may have another question for us. I didn't see that he posted one yet, but I'll add that in here. Maybe the second one if he responds here. So let's kick things off with question number one from Anju, saying I'm able to record a PowerPoint presentation on Microsoft Teams, but my video isn't getting recorded simultaneously. Please help record a PowerPoint presentation. So I reckon I needed more info on that. So it's either she means that it's out of sync or that this, if she says video, is it video on audio? Is it not too sure? Yeah, that was my question. Yeah. Because I think he's talking about the audio maybe, that's delayed, because that's what I first thought, but then I went like, no, I actually don't know. I'm not sure. Yeah, because my other thought too was that, well, are you able to see your video prior to presenting or is there just a problem where it's not recognizing your video feed? That could be another thing. Because I know people have had issues with non-supported cameras. If you have a new camera, and this has also happened with Teams where it worked and then it didn't work and then it worked again and then didn't work with some devices. There are some devices that just don't work with Teams at all. But also remember, so yeah, so maybe that's about the PowerPoint in the video, because I mean, if I have three screens and I've got my PowerPoint there, my Teams is here, I'm busy presenting, then the recording records the team meeting, whether recording in it, does it? What does it record? What does it record the specific screen? So do you have the option to change that around whether you want to have your camera showing on or off? So whether it just shows the presentation or do you want to include your screen? Because that was probably it, how it's presenting and what screen it's actually recording. Because now with that new little, whatever little thing with the videos at the bottom, that's a thing that I've got now where the presentation shows separate and then all the faces at the bottom, because it might just be a setting, I'd say, if it's not showing the recording. Well, another question out of the from the, straight from the need more information department. Yeah, all right, Mike. NMI. No, it's also if you are something that I occasionally forget if I'm using my camera in another application, which isn't closed, so it can only be utilized by one source. That could be another reason why it's not working instead of teams. So yeah, this is when, I think asking a couple of follow-up questions with Anju would probably get more to the heart of the issue. But I do know that some folks have run into this issue when they're using OBS. Because the OBS virtual camp and not being able to use that. Teams has always been flaky with OBS, but it's now, you can't have a multiple source. So if teams is actually using that camera, if teams is using OBS, I do know that it's caused problems with using not only presenting PowerPoint, but also presenting video, so. OBS is Old Brown Sherry, right? Because I also don't record OBS on OBS on Sherry. I... Not a lot of stuff works well when I'm on OBS on Sherry. I think your recordings improved dramatically. Very entertaining. Yeah. Not always accurate, but yes. Yeah, true. My word. Good times. All right, question number two. Michael asks, I can add some people from other organizations to my team or my channel, but on the other side, they must change the organization to communicate with the other company. Can I change this? So I can see all my teams in one dialogue. We know that's an art? Yeah, so just with some of these two that I think this might be one of the translated questions there from the Facebook community. So what I understand this is that people that have access, you can add people to your team or channel, but some people must change organization to communicate with another company. Well, you're talking about... Can I just have a change? Well, I think let's take this apart a little bit. He's saying he can add guests, right? So from his vast back, he's talking about adding guests, but then he's saying from the other side, I have a feeling that it's from the guest side. So the guests that he has added to teams, you go back to their side, that guest, and that guest cannot communicate with people inside of his org because they are a guest. They are not part of that organization. You have to switch the tenant to be able to participate in the chat. Yes. Switch the tenants, that's what I said. We'll put it on user voice. Yeah. Well, this is... Yeah. I just got up a call. The call was established by a, I guess they're a federated partner with Microsoft, they're one of our partners, so it's a little different. That doesn't count, right? That doesn't count. Yeah, right. Not sure. It's always confusing for me. So I have connections that are through, so that I have my company, my Avpoint tenant, and I'm part of a Microsoft team. So I have that, that's that federated link. So I have communications with Microsoft people. I also have over a Microsoft tenant that they do a lot of external collaboration through, but I'll have some of those same contacts in both locations. And so I'll see a notification and go up and drop down and see that there's notifications in the other tenant. And sometimes, which is not frustrating at all, like the same conversation, and they'll forget and they'll chat with me on the same conversation thread, but in those two different locations. So it's not the same, let me clarify. It's not the same threaded conversation. It's the same topic in two different places. So I have to patchwork quilt it together when I'm looking for the full story, the full conversation. But I'm sure that happens to nobody else. Definitely not. Just you. No. Yeah, has anybody gone in? Somebody mentioned this a while back, but it said like that Microsoft has the tenant switching. So the true tenant switching, not just switching between guest accounts, but the tenant switching on the mobile device. And somebody said, well, I'm just gonna run an iOS emulator on my desktop with that app and have teams and have it all in one place. You know, they're on my desktop and I would just leave it running all day. Has anybody tried that? I've heard about it. No, you have never tried it. Like, sounds like so much effort. Yeah, why would you want that much overhead? Just to, you know, go to yesterday. Just because it's so annoying to switch in between and see it all in one location. Because you could then in that view, leave it open and see all of the various guest networks and multiple tenant logins all from one screen and the notifications that pop in. So then all you would have to do from that, if you had that open in the emulator, is click on that and jump right into that. So let me ask this is why wouldn't you have the mobile app on a actual device like a tablet sitting next to you that all it did was present that application? Or that. Yeah. So I have an iPad that is sitting with a dead battery that I just haven't used in years, the kids used it. And maybe that's what I should go and do is just have it dedicated to that app sitting next to me, taking up more of my desktop, my physical desk space. Yeah, anyway, just a thought. All right, so any other last comments on Michael's question? So it's just because they're in different, they're dialing through different tenants. So if you're a guest, you know, then yeah, you have to be on that tenant that you were invited into to have that conversation. That's why when you start dealing with a new company, I always create that team immediately. Then I'm not the guest. That's how you do it. Tips. Got tips. Once you've got it. Once you've got it. Smart. Yeah. All right. I have a question for you. I'm cleaning out organizations. I've been associated to. There's so many of them. Yeah. And the way you have to do it is going into, you know, your app profile and that kind of thing. It just takes so long. Here's a, this is a great request for Cortana to make suggestions on groups that you've not participated in for a certain amount of time. Can it be part of a, you know, a monthly recommendation? Like it does the productivity tips of, have you followed up on this task? Is this still an open item? Have you replied back to this person and make that? Because I just saw somewhere last week, somebody said, you know, part of their monthly process, they've set up a reminder on their calendar to go in and look at and purge any unused groups that they're a member of. That's stupid. Keeping a clean inbox. Nobody does that. I do. True. One person did that. I simply can't. Yeah. It's almost like the Antiviva platform, right? I wish I could. I wish I could. I'm not interested in it anymore. Yeah. I'm too OCD for that, people. I spent months in lockdown and I cleaned that baby up and I went through. I'm never, ever letting that happen again. And if you think you're in the daily, it's gone. And I only say that because I'm jealous, because I'm not built that way. I can't do it. I can definitely charge for it. I just want to put it out there. You'll clean my inbox for me. Absolutely. It's going to be much easier than mine was because I don't care. I don't care if you do projects. I'll turn it to Mike. We've got lots of email from Tracy saying, is this important to you? Is this important to you? And then a screenshot and as this new five people. I've got a zero inbox and then a Tracy folder with 3000 items. And then I'll create a plan of talks for each of the emails. I want you to go and look at. It's job creation 101, but I'm proud to say zero miles on my mailboxes. I don't even look at my inbox. If it's not filtered, it's not important. Is that why you're responding? Exactly. That's a different, that's a different message. And yes, I have now. So sure. Let's talk about workshop. Yep. Okay. All right. Question number three, Paul says, question, do you have to be using the same email address to log into teams as the email and invite was sent to? Or does it not matter as long as it's on the same machine as the mailbox? It just works. But in fully matters. Your email address is technically even though it's an email address still, it's technically your ID, right? It's identity that the invite was sent to. So I have three emails. Sorry. Is that true? Three emails that I use now with teams. I had a fourth, but I, well, no, that's not so true. I do have one other crap. Dang it. All right. Well, so I have my old Microsoft ID, which is associated with all of my MVP stuff, which I use for nothing else. And I've not logged into that email in like a decade. Then you have my former now company, my community work that's all done in my MVP. Most of my activities are associated with that and my personal tenant and all that, which is collab talk stuff. I have my AvePoint tenant. I have my Microsoft community login and tenant. I have two other systems that were customer logins. These are not guest networks. These are full logins to that. So I have, so I often get meeting invites to my Microsoft ID one. I don't want it spammed. So I'm not going to talk about it. I have to that old ID that's only used specifically for my Microsoft tech community login, which is annoying as hell. The fact that I can't associate it with another email and login there. So if I click on a link, it opens it as a guest every time. I have to forcibly read a Microsoft tech community article only via, well, if I'm now actually edge browser is able to differentiate. So that's my default open of any link now is in edge browser because it at least has figured that out. It knows who I am with the multiple profiles, but other applications, it'll open up incorrectly and I can't read it. And so I will often get invites to things from the MVP program to that one email from people in the community and most other MVPs through my former work, my company email and things through my AvePoint. And I have to constantly ask people, hey, can you resend that invite over to this email address? I'm sorry you struggle with that person because none of us, of course. It's only me. I know. All right. Question number four, Jan asks, how can you preset teams breakout rooms? So even before the meeting starts, is that even, is that available yet? Yep. You've got to set it up as the meeting starts. So I couldn't find any way to set it up before the meeting actually opens up. So you have to actually start the meeting and then you can set up the rooms as people. So you can even like start 15 minutes early, set it up and then as people join in. But you can't create a meeting and before you even hit the start button and preset those. So that's the feature. Microsoft has talked about that, but I just don't think it's available. I don't know if it's a user voice or if it's a roadmap thing. I have to go look at. But there's been discussion about being able to, at the point of the time of creation, to also set up breakout rooms. So. That's good feedback. Yeah. Then it's on the bingo. Microsoft bingo to always take a sip, take a drink there. Is that is that your North Star? He's just already. All right. Let's see. Okay. Question number five. Ashik says, how can I get a link to SharePoint list form that could be shared with public? We can copy a link to the SharePoint list form, but how to change the privacy settings to public? Nope. Yeah. Tracy, I think you responded to that one. I think you responded to that one, Tracy, over on Facebook. On Facebook, yeah. You got to use the MS form. I mean, unless you want like a extra net environment, but that's not truly public. So. So what you could do if you have any dev skills and you can do it fairly easily is you could do an Azure static website, which is essentially free. You could then, so you could create your form using HTML and JavaScript. And then you can create a logic app that when they submit the form, it calls the logic app, which would put it into a SharePoint list. And we've done some things like that before. And that's relatively. So for people that don't have dev skills like me, I would just go and create a Microsoft form and then Power Automated back into SharePoint. Sounds easier. Because I normally do. But the MS form doesn't have as many options. So I'm pretty sure your option has better options for fields because the MS form is just a survey. It's not really a form. Yeah, exactly. If forms will work for you, absolutely use forms. It's so simple to use. But if you need business logic, if you need a custom URL, if you need, you know, all that stuff, then yeah, an Azure static website with HTML and JavaScript calling a logic app to stick into a SharePoint list is from a client side of dev perspective is pretty quick. Yeah, it's not going to be for me. Just something on the forms that's interesting, I think that a lot of people don't consider. Your MS forms data doesn't sit in your tenant necessarily in your country because it's shared data centers. So I always warn my customers, especially, you know, like say with GDPR or the POPPR Act on South Africa and stuff, got to be very, very careful of using forms if that data center doesn't sit in your country because there's guidelines around that. And there's a lot of people doing crazy stuff with forms just because it's easy to do, you know, like my supplier vendor application form or my bank details change form. I'm like hell no, it's not supposed to be that, but no, it happens. Are there any other, this is kind of a broader question on that point. Are there any other of these kind of smaller services, these subservices that are also handled differently than your primary Microsoft 365 data? It'd be interesting to have like a map way to ask, you know, mapping where your data is depending on the services. There is a site where you can go and check it out, but I know that forms was, stream was at some point, of course that's changed slightly now, but streamers also shared the data center same as Sway, which I don't know if any of you use Sway, I'll use Sway. But I'll quickly go and look and see if I can find that. That'd be a great resource to be able to provide. Yeah, if you could find that Tracy, because I didn't know that about forms. I just assumed it was like everything else when you have your designation of your location, your residency of your data, that that was true for any of those other services that you utilized. If that's not the case, there needs to be a mapping. And I mean, I like overthinking like the warnings and stuff, but in or, you know, countries that have, you know, a lot of regulations around the data residency are there warnings when you attempt to use the service like forms that may not push data to your country of origin. So I don't know what that user experience is like. America, which is all one bucket. One language, one bucket. I don't know what the big deal is. Sorry. I like the parks and recreation where Ron Swanson's over in the UK where he's trying to buy some things. Like this is here. Here's one dollar. It's like, we don't take that. It's like, of course you do. It's American dollar. Find us currency of the world. Tracy, I found that link for you. You should be grateful to take it. Apparently it's in America anyway. So for most people on this call, it doesn't matter. That's right. It works for us. It works for us. The link I just put in the chat, if you scroll down, it has the list of all countries where Microsoft 365 is available and you can expand each individual country and see where each specific service stores its data. Awesome. And for most of the Americas, it's the U.S. Except unless you're in Brazil, because Brazil has its own data center. Right. And I will paste that over into the Facebook live stream as well. And it will be, well, the link to this will also be in both YouTube and out on the blog post later this evening. So excellent. All right. Sredev number six says, I want to migrate my PST file into Office 365 or Exchange Online. How and what is the process without using a migration tool? It's easy. It's not. No. No. Well, okay. I thought you would rather do yes. Then there is a what you do is you go to in your outlook client, you go to file, you go to open an export import an export import from another program or file and then you pick outlook data file. Now, that's if you want to import it. I would prefer however the way I do that is to do file open at export and just simply open outlook data file planted at the PST and then it's there and appears over in your nav pane. You can drag and stuff drop stuff at your leisure. Doing it that way also preserves things like the timestamps which have a tendency on an import to get messed up. Yep. And it's fairly simple and quite straightforward. I've done it dozens and dozens of times and bringing the PST back into your inbox is the right thing to do because you don't want it as a separate PST and if your mailbox is big enough so that whole drag thing would be the better approach. But the one thing you can't do is I put a little link in the chat window. You can't do it if you got an OST file, right? You cannot do that. You have to convert it to PST felt OSTs are offline store files. They belong to IMAP and exchange accounts and they are completely dead. They're simply there for you to look at. They cannot be used as storage mechanisms. They are volatile. They disappear if you're tapping to damage one particularly on a soft exchange account. You simply delete it and it rebuilds. It is an offline copy of what you have on the server. But this being a PST file that comes from a pop account and the only way to deal with that is that you either import it or as I say the preferred method to me is you simply open it and drag and drop stuff to your arts content into wherever you might wind up meeting it. That way it doesn't the contents of it doesn't wind up in your online mailbox because basically it's not. There's a bunch of stuff in there that you probably don't need. If I were to do it with mine that would be exactly the same case. There's just a lot of old junk in there I don't need and doing it by drag and drop I can simply pick up what's relevant and important and put that into my online mailbox. The rest of it sits in the PST always available whenever I need it. How do you like super aggressive? I just wish you had an opinion about it. Yeah. Outlook is my thing. PST gets me emotional as well. That's just a disaster. Disaster. We've had similar questions to this from time to time around this and Hal has consistent response to these. That's good. Question number seven, Leslie asks, I want to set a task for to complete all attendees prior to them attending a training session in teams. I can't find any apps that I can link to the meeting to do that. That's interesting. I want them to complete this task and then they can get the information to join this training session. No, I don't agree. They're just saying prior to them attending not prior to them getting the link to the session. OK, prior to them attending. So that's just why it depends on whether those people are together in one team because if they're all just use planner. But if it's random ad hoc meetings, then use an email. What about your forms? You could do a form. Yeah, I think it depends on what that task is. I mean, what is it that they want them to achieve? So of course forms can work brilliantly and if it's in a team, then planner just to give them the task. I don't know what that task is. That's the thing is I don't know what they're asking those people to do. I'm saying, but if you could do it, you could start it with the quiz and forms and then you can have a flow create a planner task or do whatever is next after that or give them the information after they've done it. So that might be a simple way to at least start the process. But again, yeah, more information would be helpful here. Yeah, so something like that if they complete an email 85% correct, then it flags it is complete. If under that response of less than them, then they you'll have to do that over. But once they get that hit that level, then it's complete and then you can get a notification of those individuals that have completed that and then you can automate or manually send them the invite at that time. So then the admin would only have to go and look at the list to see everybody that's completed it and only invite those people that have completed the quiz to the training. Yep. If you're talking about hundreds or thousands of people over time, then you can go in and do more of an automated method for that. But if you're talking about your team of 20 30 people and having that one manual step not that big of a deal just depends on what you're trying to do. Yeah, otherwise you need guys to go down the full-fledged enterprise learning platform kind of scenario. Right. Which if you remember, used to be one of the FUB 40 templates back in the day. Yep. I remember that. Huh? I remember that. So of course everyone on this calls old. Hmm. All right. Question number eight. Yeah, it's all great. Somebody just presented a picture. It was the Facebook birthday sharing of photos and they shared a picture of me that and made a comment and there was me with a couple of other people and I said everybody looks exactly the same. I'm like, no. No. No, I do not. It was 10 years ago. I just got out of jail. Just 30 days of Facebook jail. I'm a bad man apparently. I just keep on missing what it is that you're bad about and that really upsets me. So I keep on seeing the afterwards like, oh my word, I'm back and I miss what it is that got you kicked off and I mean that would just make my life so interesting. But obviously I'm not going to say it in this public forum but if you hang on the call after we cut off the live stream, I'll tell you what I did. I'd love to know. Yeah. Yeah. The live streaming is it is live streaming inside of Facebook. So that was when we killed the live stream already. It was already we're an appropriate we're already all flagged somewhere on a list because of of hanging out with an ex con an ex Facebook con. Yep. That's fine. How did you guys know this this is we do operate as a Facebook work release program so that's why deals required to do certain number of hours with us before he's truly free. That's also cool. It's an inclusion. Just bringing us. That's right. All right, question number eight. Tadek says, Hey, while I'm logging into teams, screen, is there anybody who has the same problem as me? What is the solution? I've uninstalled and installed the app again and nothing changed. So I must admit that I wish I just saw a wide screen in theme. I know, it's a blessing. Sometimes the blessing. Did they say desktop or client? Have they tried to, if it is client, have they tried different, I mean, if it is web, have they tried different browsers? Is it, are they in a situation where they have to be VP and into their network before they can actually use it? Just a lot of different questions to ask. Yes, yes. And yes, I've seen that particular thing and it was teams on the back end having a tummy ache and I waited an hour or so and it started working after that. So that is always a bunch thing. That's why we suggest trying a different machine or a different browser and wait an hour because teams has tummy aches from time to time. Yes, my number one response when I see that it has issues is to quickly go out to the Twitterverse or other sources and scan and see if there's something bigger that's underway that's happening. Unfortunately, it's happened a few times in the last month or two. Especially in the education space. I mean, that group had some serious hiccups with that for quite a couple of days. So, yep. I know that SharePoint and teams have been targeted by hackers. You know, you can't have this kind of immense growth and then not see that as a hacker's target. So there's a lot going on. All right, question number nine. Simha says, how do I restart or bounce the Azure components clusters VMs? This is a somewhat of a confusing question, but I mean, it's called the Azure portal. So, you know, or PowerShell or the Azure CLI or Cloud Shell. There's probably a dozen different ways that you can restart or bounce. PowerShell's basically. Well, and then there's also the WAC, right? So you can go through the Windows Admin Center and you can bounce clusters to the Windows Admin Center. So if that's what they're talking about clusters in Azure, you can do that as well. So. I guess it depends what gives you the least administrative overhead to use a classic terminology and a Microsoft exam question. I'm trying to understand, I mean, if they actually created these machines and they have the permissions to actually bounce these machines, how they would not know that they could use the method which they created them to restart them. So, need a little bit more information on what they're trying to do and, you know, the kind of permissions they have. Mark, are you just waving? Are you departing? Are you, do you have a question? No, he's leaving. There we go. There's the answer. Yeah, so that's one where even as a non-dev, yeah, I was just kind of, he could have said something out loud, but just disappeared. But, you know, as a non-dev, and like I have resources, I have my site, the two sites that are running out in Azure and it was pretty straightforward to go in and find the restart button on those services. And so, okay. Anyway. All right, question number 10, Yehuda. Hi, someone may know if and how we can embed an HTML5 preview file on modern SharePoint. The file is an interactive file, so it's important not to change the type of it. So, embedding an HTML5 preview file on a modern SharePoint site. Well, you know, Christian, normally, I would have the answer for this, being the SharePoint person. That's all in the call. That's right. Yeah. But that's a joke for everybody who doesn't know. Yeah. I don't like SharePoint. Yeah. When Sean is not here, Sean and Neil are not here, then Mike is our go-to SharePoint person. That's right. And telephony. And telephony. And telephony. Well, we're all telephony experts, Mike. You can't own that bragging rights. We're all there. I mean, I'm just in a quick search. There's a couple of videos on how to do it. I don't know whether it's specifically to HTML5 or what the outcome would be, but just a quick search, preview HTML5 on SharePoint in a Bing search gives me a whole bunch of stuff coming back. Yeah, I wasn't sure if this is something, you know, this is like in the olden days where you'd iframe something into a website, you know, a page like this. And so you can, you know, it was a pretty straightforward. I'm just not familiar with the nuances of the situation with SharePoint modern sites. Oh, and Mike unceremoniously departed as well. Wow. Goodness. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Could you pick on him the whole time? Yeah, I guess. There's actually an answers.microsoft.com question on this and the response from one of the, from Alex Chen, I don't know if you know him, he's been around for a long time as a moderator on that platform, says it's not possible. But that was, it's almost a year old though, so. But it is for online, for on-premises. It's sold, you had lots of workarounds, but online. I'm pretty sure the creative folks can do it, but not out of the box. Yeah. It doesn't say whether it's online or it's too old. I wouldn't trust anything that's a year old. So if there's a discussion about it and somebody claiming, is that a Microsoft person, Neil? Yeah, so Alex Chen, I'll put the link in the chat window just for information, if you choose to use it or not. But it looks a little old to me. And it doesn't say whether it's SharePoint online or SharePoint on-premises. This is one of those issues where, so yeah, going and doing a quick search and maybe Huda had not found anything and so posted the question, but would, if you're not finding anything, the next place to go and check the two locations is any discussion out of Microsoft Tech Community, and then of course out on, post your request out to, hang on, let me. Yeah, I'd be also interested to understand, what is, obviously, when you say a HTML file, HTML file, HTML5, regardless of the version, what is it that the file is actually interactive? What is it doing? Because it might be that there's an alternative way. Maybe it's showing a video, right? So that's a better stream feed. Maybe it's something else. There's a lot of alternatives to just embedding HTML. Well, but so again, as I say, it's like if it's any missing feature, it's something that you require, you're not finding it anywhere. Also go and check in user voice, see if others have already requested it, and if they have, there's a relevant request and upvote that, if not, add the request. I mean, Microsoft needs to have that feedback. In fact, if you can send, once you post it to user voice, send it to four people that you know, if they go in and upvote that, all you need are five upvotes and Microsoft will review it. So they may not respond to it or they may respond and say, no issue, it's already on the roadmap or hey, this is a low priority. I mean, they could come back with a response to it, but they will respond, they will review it with as few as five upvotes. And I can verify that, because for a long time, I was the SharePoint moderator, or one of the SharePoint moderators on that platform. Yep. Nothing gets ignored. Nothing gets ignored. Microsoft is doing a great job at listening and reviewing. You might, again, you might not be satisfied with the answer where they come back and say, you know, there's little value in us providing this, so there are a number of workarounds, good luck to you. That could be the response. I'll share the blog with you. So it's all the, because the only way part that you can use is embedded code, okay? So you're quite restricted, because the, I mean, you don't have the script editor and things anymore. So if it works in that embedded code, web part, then it'll work. So there's a blog there from SharePoint Maven. Where is the blog post link? Did you post it in chat? In the chat. I didn't see it. Well, then chat, free cookie breaks down. Oh, there we go. There it is. And you have to, so you obviously have to go and set your HTML field security on the tenant, not on the tenant, on the site collection as well. But some of them don't work, and some of them do work. So I just suggest that they try the embedded code web part, but it depends on what that code looks like. So because I can't get through. I guess another option you could, I'll be over-stretching, but you could potentially do something with SPFX, use the framework. That's probably not, it's probably too much work for what they're trying to achieve. All right. All right, let's jump to the next one. Question number 11, Claudia says, hello, can someone guide me on how to upload data from a URL that's on a website to a blob storage, please? It's a lot of data, so I can't download it to my computer. Please help. So to go from a, from a URL, from a third party site over to a blob storage container. Is it like, I mean, it's a URL. Is it a link to, like a, you know, enormous zip file? Is she trying to pull something from another storage container that's behind that URL? There's so many. So great questions. The answer is, yes, one of those things, maybe. That's the kind of detail I can get to. I mean, it's a tough one. I mean, you can, I guess from blob storage, when you say blob storage, I'm making an assumption that we're referring to Azure blob storage here, although it could be any other. Why would anybody use anything else? Neil, come on. Well, of course. Of course it's at blob storage. I don't know. I mean, there's tools. If you look at the, what the hell is that tool called? There is a, I can't remember what it's called, it's third party, but you can connect to, put basically load, like it's like the old school, why we file explorer, source and destination and you drag and drop. But the question is, does the source support that type of functionality? I don't know. Yeah. But I used to use it all the time with Azure to pull VMs from one place to another and all kinds of things. It sounds like it. Well, it's impossible to know without understanding what that URL is. I think. Right. So Claudia, yeah, we need to know more about the source, what the location is, what the file type, what the format of that is, whether that other location offers export capability or, I mean, that's another issue. I mean, accessing that, being able to read it and scrape it, migrate it, export it, usually sites like that. I was thinking like I pointed my son to who's a, what's his major? I know he's a STEM kid looking at like the various weather sciences. And he, so Microsoft made these announcements about all this data that they're sharing that's weather related. And NASA has some different resources, things that are out there and pointed them towards that. And then he's learning how to go and access some of that data and do some things with it. But that's the first thing I thought of like a point him to these massive data sources, accessing that, getting that, pulling it down, how he was doing that. It was actually a, over in Power BI was being able to point to that directly. But again, there was a utility and the data was set up, was established to be able to link over and be utilized by Power BI. So anyway, all right. Well, we can sit here and speculate about the format or we can jump to question number 12. Diego says, I'm wondering if someone knows how to automatically send an image taken with a camera control and power apps to the attachment field of approvals through Power Automate. Any help would be helpful? Help would be helpful. Yes. Yeah, so it's the- Not my area, I'm afraid. I wish it was. I'm either, sometimes I'm gonna have to learn, but not right now. I think the, yeah, Tracy, do you have any experience with this? As far as I know, it's still an attachment, hey? So it depends on how they've set up that app and map that fields back to wherever it is that they wanna drop it. So they're talking about approvals, but I mean, that could just be a list or a Microsoft list or something. But the Power app definitely does see it as an attachment. So according to me, it's definitely possible, but it's how the apps built. It's whatever they've mapped it. Yeah. Yeah, that was my thought too. Attachment is just a field. You can place data inside of that. You should be able to automatically go in and do it. This is not my area of expertise to going and doing that, but yeah, this seems like, there's a number of people we could point them towards to take it answers to this. You know what, I'm going to, let me take this as homework, but I'm gonna forward it to a couple of people and might get a response for next week. It seems like we should be able to get a pretty easy answer from somebody that is living and breathing inside this stuff. Like for example, I'll also forward it over to Laura Rogers will be one of the couple of people. I have a few people internal in the old PFE organization as well that we can ask. If you've got that information. Yeah, well, it's Wednesday for a member. I'll add it to next week's homework. So if we get a response back from anybody, we can report back on that next week. All right. So we have another 15 minutes. Question number 13, Sabrina, my nonprofit company is using Teams for its main org and now needs to open two different departments working separately. Is it possible with the same account manager in license? Is there a way to switch between departments not teams or channels? That's the stickler there of the same org. So if you are creating three different tenants, you can federate between those tenants and make it easy to move across in between those tenants. So as we were talking about earlier, Microsoft has different tenants, the tenant that's out there where they federate with a number of partners. Like where it's really easy for me to collaborate. So AppPoint, for example, has a federated relationship as a very seeder partner with Microsoft. And so as my AppPoint login in Teams, I can see as another team, this Microsoft team, even though it's over in the Microsoft tenant. So it's a federated thing. So it's easy to see and to move it between those. I mean, most organizations, if there's not a reason for having the multiple tenants you can have and keep separated the various teams on a single tenant. But if there's a requirement, if you have subdivisions, you have separate legal entities to where you need to have that line of demarcation in between your digital assets and have three separate tenants, then that's something that you can do is just add people that need to work across those tenants to each of the different tenants or federate in between them. Anything anybody would add to that? It makes sense to me. I posted a video for you from, is it Shane Young? That does the attachment from camera for Power Act and Power Automate. Does I see two links from you? So is that the first one got me onto the video? So the first one was the one on the forum where they kept on discussing it and then someone shared the link to the last one's the video. I will add that, even though it's from Shane. Don't be mean, don't be mean. Shane's awesome, he's hilarious. Shane's cows on Twitter, no he's good. Let's see, I think he's doing well. I don't see him that much out there. I see stuff from Laura all the time, but I know he's doing one of the training stuff as well. He's very busy. I haven't heard from him in a long time. I think normally only ever see him when we were doing person conferences though. Yep. So it's been a long time. Used to the Shane and Todd show, but we don't see that often these days. Yep, Todd's over at some practice now and I think just he's... Oh, with Mock? Yep. Oh, cool. So yeah, yeah, so I don't see him that much in online activities either, but he's just heads down busy working on client stuff, doing very well. And I think Shane is just busy with his new training company. And once in a while I'll see a link, especially out on Facebook and various communities being shared around, but yeah, I haven't interacted with him much. But then again, the last year, I haven't interacted with many people. You're in touch with me. We met at a conference. That's true. That's true. Are you going to the next one? Well, so the next one is in Orlando, is the Microsoft 365, formerly the North American SharePoint Conference that was in Vegas, has moved to, so that's the second week in June or first week, second week in June in Orlando. I was thinking Branson. I'll be at Branson, I'll be in Branson as well in August. Yeah, so my, just quick comment on this, on in-person events. So started to see a couple that are being planned for in-person, almost all of those hybrid that are happening this fall. I just feel like, I have no problem. Vaccinated, our state is largely open. In fact, I just commented in a blog post this weekend, I went to a movie with my son on Saturday, no masks, wide open. It just, I walked in with my mask and everybody that worked there, mask free, they're like, nope, there's no state mandate where it's up to the businesses, the owners of the business said, master net necessary. There's still, a lot of people walking around wearing masks there, if you're uncomfortable, like just continue wearing a mask. But socially distancing was still being enforced with the dots on the ground of where to stand to keep distance from people. But otherwise than that, popped off the mask and had no problem. In Texas, obviously they lifted the mandate, but a lot of businesses, it's your choice, right? It's a business's choice. Now, a lot of the signs have changed from mandatory to recommended. Yeah. Well, here's the thing where, just sorry, I'm gonna go political here just for a second. It's like, regardless of your feelings on the effectiveness of masks, if you enter a private business and they ask you to wear a mask, you have to wear a mask. There's no right to not wear a mask in a private business, period. Anyway. I don't think that's political, it's just common sense. Yeah, well, yeah, there's some people will see it that way though. There's plenty of stupid to go around for everybody. Yeah, so anyway. All right, so let's jump to the next one. Yeah, so on that point, so I don't think I'm gonna be attending in person in Orlando. I think it's just, as far as, there's just too many other events that are going on that are online. And so for me, it's just physically traveling and dedicated the time. It's like, I don't have the time to go and be in person at the event that soon. I need to plan around it. I will be in Branson, I may be driving so that I have a vehicle there and might bring one of my sons with me. Yeah, we're driving to Branson. Also, Matt Cashman reached out to me last week. Microsoft is gonna put a full body on the ground, multiple bodies on the ground at SP Fest in Dallas. Oh, nice. So he asked me if I'll, because since I live here, he's like, will you represent him? Of course I'll be there, no question. Yeah. So I know. What's the time you get out there anyway? I can't, I'm trying to remember it's, I'd have to go check on the dates again, but it's definitely after Branson, so it's like September, October. So it's a Q4, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Well, is that the one, they're not doing it in Chicago anymore in Q4 in December? Is it December? Yeah, I think it might be December. SP Fest runs at various times of the year in different locations. Yeah. So I've been a couple of times in the middle of winter in Chicago there where the snow comes sideways. And the roads are icy and gone. I mean, it's still a great event to well attend it. Yeah, Chicago's July 26th, DC is September 20th and Dallas is October 11th. Okay. Well, it's great to see things pick up again. So it'd be exciting to see everybody again. Of course, we were at Branson last year and was it September last year? I remember, whatever it was. Yes, it was September, it was weird. The hybrid kind of thing, Mike did a great job. Mike has definitely done a fabulous job putting that comments on. Well, I'll say thank you because I helped run the hybrid. But yeah, so I will, I'm organizing that again this year. So, all right, let's see. We get one or two questions still in here. Let's see. Number 14, Ashik says, why is it that lookup column can be edited in SharePoint lists form, but can it be edited in SharePoint mobile app? Lookup column is showing as read only in SharePoint app, but editable in web? It's a non-issue and it's on user voice. It's not solved. Okay. Share the link with you. So I stole the card. I even saw it recently, someone mentioned it. So it's definitely still lying on user voice. There's two different ones. I will add those in. Those in as well. Copy the link, thank you for those. And number 15, Judith asks, we're considering creating a discussion forum team with channels for employees to discuss specific applications, teams, OneDrive, et cetera. The goal is for colleagues to help each other navigate Office 365 and the collaboration tools by sharing tips and asking or responding to questions specific to that application. For technical questions, they will be told to submit a help desk ticket. Has anyone set up a discussion forum team for their org and have advice on how to set it up for success? Also, our org does not have Yammer because that was going to be my answer. Because you've just described one of the great use cases, the scenarios that Yammer is strong at resolving. Especially if you use the hashtags and stuff because then they can use one group and just hashtag the products. It just makes it easier. But I mean, I've done this with teams as well. You end up with a channel per product, but it's nice because I can share resources in each channel. I can add tabs to web resources and things. So a team works quite well for it. Yeah. Yeah, so, I mean, I think without having the Yammer social platform, you're creating an org-wide team and then creating the channels for each one of those. Again, it's not the best. It's not going to raise the visibility. It's not going to be the same as using Yammer for that. Yeah. But yeah, because you really, there's a lot more curation that has to happen manually because of that, not having those other tools that are developed for this. And I definitely wouldn't do it as an org-wide team. Then she's saying that don't have Yammer. I bet you they do have Yammer, it's just switched off. But if it's a team, I wouldn't do it org-wide. I would do one of those, what do they call it? Like public or something where you can get a join code? So that people can actually decide same as with Yammer because if you make that an org-wide thing, it'll be chaos. I think so. Well, it depends on the size of the org, but yeah, I mean, you've got different. Like in my company, it's not a problem at all. Well, if you have issues, you know, right where to take those. Brom. Yeah, to Brom. So yeah, I mean, some other, I mean, go ahead. I'm going to say to Tracy's point, Yammer's probably been disabled. Yeah, that's why it's, I mean, not of that, obviously, because they're using teams in one drive. So they've been told they don't have Yammer. They've got to like help their ticket come back and say, sorry, we didn't buy the Yammer license. You know that. Anyway. Yeah, there's a lot of other things that you can do. I mean, again, depending on the organization, this is more of a, what do you want? What are you trying to do? There's things that you can go and do. You can create, I mean, you can, you can utilize, you know, like the tags capability so that you can come up with a naming convention for each of these to make it really easily searchable around each one of those. You could have like hashtag teams tips, hashtag one drive tips, hashtag SharePoint tips so that people can easily find and surface that information. So they may, and you can leave it open. You may not force people to go and join it, but that if they do that search, they find more of this content or discussion happening around that topic and may find their way over into those channel discussions. So like with Yammer, I mean, because obviously it's typical, it's like everything else. I was helping a company yesterday with teams, just a friend of mine. And she like said, she had like dreams about teams last night, but good ones. But because like for two years, I only use teams to make calls and have meetings. They didn't know that they could do all the other stuff, but that's the same as with Yammer. You know, it gets shut down quite a lot where people don't understand how it can be used. But that whole, because I mean, it's also about bringing it in where they work. So I think they must push back and get Yammer, okay? Because if they have one group and they use those hashtags or like topics, right? I normally on SharePoint go and build a page with like three columns and then I surface the specific hashtag and column. So I'll say teams and there's the, but it's the same group. And then I add that page to the org wide team or something. So you can actually scan through it and see the latest team stuff or the latest one drive stuff, even though it's one big group. Because that also helps people that are new to Yammer, you know, to quickly find something, but to actually see a focus per group, even though it's one Yammer group. So that works quite well bringing it in on a SharePoint page as well. Any who? Well, one other problem with using teams is that, I mean, it is, it's more project in time specific. So it's just a different utility for this. I mean, what's one thing that Yammer is really strong at is, and I saw this in prior companies where, you know, a year after a conversation happened and somebody will find it, there might be new information. They go and update that. And it resurfaces that automatically and people don't want to jump into the latest and you've got all the history that's attached to it. So it truly is a community-based knowledge center of those hints and tips and best practices. So it does that really well. Yeah. I think Judith must ask the question. Like firstly, go and check out what license they have and then go back to IT and say, you know, we were thinking. Yeah. Look at it. Otherwise, again, you create a team, create the channels, figure out, you know, naming convention for those hashtags and use those kind of out of the box capabilities there. And it'll certainly work to that degree. So I think as you start building volume around that, you're gonna figure out more and more of the limitations of that method versus go and move all that over to Yammer, but yeah. Anyway, well, listen, we are at the half, or I guess the end of this segment, the 90 minutes of this live stream. Thank you to Tracy, Neil, Hal, of course, those others whose names I've forgotten already that have left us Mike and Mark. But thanks for joining this. Of course, the recording of this will be out on the collab talk channel out on YouTube and also on my blog post at Buckley Planet. So later this evening, I will go through and catalog every one of the message center topics as well as every question that we attempted to address. I think we did a pretty good job here, answering questions. You know, there's a couple, like, I don't know, is that we're gonna go and do some more work around. But you can find those out on buckleyplanet.com. And of course, we'll be back next week at Monday at 8 a.m. Pacific as we are every week. We'll be back with a new set of 15 to 20 questions and go from there. So thanks so much to everybody for participating. Thank you. And answering the questions we didn't answer today. Yes, yes, and we will add in. So the other questions, what are there? Five more that we didn't get to, they will be at the top of the list for next week. So, excellent. So if you were waiting, so if you are John Stephan, Andrew, Patrikus, or Ere, sorry. We didn't get to your questions. Apologize for that, but we'll be back next week. So thanks a lot, everybody. We'll see you later. Thank you. I'll keep on. So I'll start my mood music again here.