 adventure and being insanely impressed, enough to the point where they are looking to do multiple LSM launch and roller coasters with Intamin. But again, please take that with a grain of salt. Alrighty! I've heard industry rumblings of Cedar Fair executives checking out Velocic Coaster at Universal's Islands of Adventure and being insanely impressed, enough to the point where they are looking to do multiple LSM launch and roller coasters with Intamin. But again, please take that with a grain of salt. Do you say hi like that? Are we muted? Are we muted? No, we're down here. We're down there, we're down there. How is everyone? It's a small house today. It's just three of us. Oh boy. Today's a really good one. I am half ready to make an official prediction today and that sounds lame, but you guys are gonna like what I have to say. I'm in the era where you guys can sit down and listen to a few things. But with that being said, Jake has an official statement he has to make. As some of you may know, I do work at Canada's Wonderland. That being said, in order to, because I love my job, there are some things I'm not allowed to say in regards to the stream. So if I ever don't say anything, that is because why. Yeah, so it's all your opinions. Yeah, everything I say in this stream is my opinion and nothing I've learned from Canada's Wonderland as an associate there. Yeah, and Wonderland knows this too. We've had conversations with Wonderland that Jake obviously doesn't feed me the information that we get. This is like anything we know is, yeah, learned on the interwebs. Poor quick thing, employed. Go Jake, go. But yeah. Jasmine, how was your week? She's above you. Crazy. I'm running a six hour sleep for the whole week and I've been dealing with renovation stuff in my house, lots of noise and stuff. So I'm at my wit's end a little bit tonight, but we're fine. We're gonna get through it. How about you? I'm good. Anyone who's been in Discord today, I've been like shaking with anxiety all day because out of excitement, I'm really excited. And you guys know if I'm excited, you should be excited. And I'm really, really excited, like thoroughly excited. You like to hear that. So we're gonna talk about, we're gonna talk about what I know, to be honest, we are. We're gonna talk about what I know. I do want to stress that we are limiting the manufacturers down to a very select few. They are dwindling away. And on Monday, fingers crossed, on Monday, I should be able to tell you guys my official prediction for a manufacturer. If it's not Monday, it's Tuesday. It's one of those two days. Hopefully, I should have it narrowed down to an exact manufacturer on one of those two days. But right now, I think that a lot of people probably feel this way and probably have some of the same opinions. Manufacturer wise, Jasmine, let's get your opinion first. I didn't get to know my week. I was here for the last three weeks and you're just gonna skip out what happened. Okay, Jake, how has your last three weeks been? Get right into it. I'm too excited. Well, I went to three new amusement parks in the last three weeks. I went to Busch Gardens, Tampa, SeaWorld Orlando, and Hershey Park. I went to Hershey Park for opening day. I wrote Skyrush, The New Restraints, which is, I've never ridden Skyrush before, The Other Restraints. All I know is they're really uncomfortable. But it was a fun ride. I really, I like Skyrush, Wildcats Revenge, top coaster of the trip, in my opinion, better than Guasi. Oh, it's a nice hoodie. I didn't realize all day today. I've been hanging out with you all day and I didn't realize it was Wildcats Revenge. And then, yeah, also SeaWorld. So we got to see Brendan's brothers. Yeah, hi, my family. And Ryan's the best BNM. The best BNM hyper coaster, Mako. Everybody can agree, Brendan, Jasmine, you can agree. Mako's up there. I haven't been on Behemoth in like years though, so I don't necessarily want to, like, put my rankings out there like that right now because I'm... So yeah, it was a really fun trip, multiple. Yeah, I had lots of good time actually doing something compared to my lots of nothing. Yeah. How was Skyrush? Skyrush. So I've heard that the restraints come down and if you get room on the draw. Wait, what? You heard that the restraints come down. Throughout the ride, throughout the ride. So they come down throughout the ride, which still is true. They're hydraulic restraints, so they come down throughout the ride. They're not ratcheted. So as you go through the positive G moments, the restraint will come down tighter and tighter and it's a bigger bar instead of that one little pinching point that it was before. Again, I didn't ride it before, so I can't be 100%, but it's a wider bar, so it doesn't... Since it doesn't hurt, it's just tight, for example. Like, it's just tight when it comes down as it would because it gets pushed down with all the amazing forces on Skyrush. And the station, the sound, it's so cool. Yeah. All right, now, now. Jasmine. Jasmine, Jasmine, Jasmine. You've been in our calls where the last couple days we've started figuring stuff out. You were in the call earlier today, right? When things hit the fan? Yeah. Okay. Okay. And by the way, you can't see this stuff at Wonderland. This is actual insider interwebs type stuff. So this isn't anything you can see on the construction site. So no, there is not track at Wonderland. I can promise you guys that there's not threaded rod at Wonderland yet, which would help us out a lot. This is just... Yes, this is just trust. Remember when I told you guys if you see official prediction and I start talking, listen, listen, I promise you guys there is a lot of truth to what I'm going to talk about today. There is some errors that are probably going to be made, but this is just like Yukon when we even had the blueprints, there are going to be errors. So yeah, just listen. Until the park announces it. So we're just guessing. That was my line like three weeks ago. It has not changed. Though we're getting more confident, it still has not changed. Yes. Yeah. Who do you think it's going to be, Jazm, manufacturer-wise? Okay. So I think my last prediction I said Premier first, then... Oh, she's up here. Am I having a brain fart? What did I say last time? Premier? I can't remember. I don't even know what I said last time. You're on the Zamperla train last time. I was. Zamperla with the family booster. Thank you. Honestly, I'm just so sleep deprived that I just couldn't think of the right manufacturer name. Premier Zamperla. And then last time I said BNM is my third. I'm changing my third to Intamin. I'm just going to leave it at that. You're guessing Intamin? No, that's a fair guess. Premier first, Zamperla second, Intamin third. That's the way I'm ranking the possibility. Who's the first one? It's quiet on our end here. All right. Premier. I can move my mind. Premier, Premier first. Okay. Okay. Jake, again, everything he's talking about on this subject is his opinions. Yesterday, I yesterday and the day before I was saying Intamin. And then I show Brendan this Altoa Ryan clip. Well, I reintroduce it back to him. And Brendan's like, yep, it's Intamin now. Well, I'm not I'm not fully onto Intamin saying there's still there's still that really strong rumbling that I can't ignore. But I think after going on pipeline, and seeing what's it called, the Penguin Trek, I do think there's still a possibility for it to be a BNM, but the sit down one like Penguin Trek, obviously a little bit more intense. And then as well as Intamin and Zamperla. Okay, I'll get percentages. Oh, wait, what? What was his order of the rankings? Intamin, BNM, and then Zamperla. Oh, okay. You're not going to put Premier on that list? Yeah, that's what I was a little surprised by that. Okay, so for me, hopefully, I don't bite the bullet again. We don't know the manufacturer yet. We should know Monday, Tuesday, fingers crossed, knock on wood. I'm going to say there's a 60 percent chance it's Intamin and a 40 percent chance it's Premier. It's not the only one putting Intamin lower at this point. Yeah, I don't know. These footings and these casting and just, yeah, just what we saw today, the element leading up over. Yeah, I don't know. The mock is an option with that element. Like that one element, a mock could do. With mock coasters, they get expensive really quickly. Don't Intamins too? Intamins, yeah, but they can put more track. The track is really expensive, as far as why I'm aware. If you want to go 5,000 feet on an Intamin, it's going to cost you, I don't know. I don't know numbers, whatever. This is hypothetical. If you want to go 5,000 feet on an Intamin, it's going to cost you $7 million, but if you want to go 5,000 feet on a mock, it'll cost you $10 million. For example, that's all hypothetical, not real numbers, obviously. I'm going to hold you to that. I'm going to make that an official Jake Breck statement. An official prediction. Yeah, I don't know. So, Jake, you're the biggestthusie here, then probably Jasmine, and then me when it comes to roller coaster enthusiasts. You're a park enthusiast. I'm a theme park. So I want to ask you a question to help our audience figure some of this stuff out. What type of roller coasters have small boosters, small segments of a booster track? So not B&M. Intamin's do Zemperlas. We haven't seen it. Let me say that word again. Zemperlas. Zemperla. I was like, Zemperla, we haven't seen enough Zemperlas. So I can't say they haven't done it, and then Mock has done it, but their booster tracks are much bigger. The new Stryker model has small. It's interesting, actually, just to... And then Premiere, I don't think have done... I'd correct me in the chat if I'm wrong, but I don't think Premiere has done a booster launch. Yes. So this is the reason I've moved Intamin up above Premiere, is when we get to the potential layout, guys, you're going to get an actual prediction of an Elpin layout. And this comes just... This is more than just looking at the footings, by the way. So no, I'm not just looking at where the footings are and guessing. There's a little more to it, I can't say anything, but yeah. I guess I'd like to head into that. Let's put this up on the screen for a while. So on the screen, you guys are probably... Let me explain this for everyone. We've got some colored dots on the screen. Look, my friend knows how to draw. This is my coloring book. Orange is confirmed footings. So the orange little dots are confirmed footings. The drill is on site. You'll learn that in my construction update tomorrow. Patreons, you'll get that tonight after the podcast story. It's been a really crazy day. Three flights. Very important day to fly. Got testing footage. It's all been raining all day. I flew my drone in the rain for you guys. That's how important it was. So literally, I was flying in the field next to Behemoth, and suddenly this giant rainstorm came and I'm like, turn around. And I'm running away from the rain. We put the drone up. Like five seconds later, it starts pouring. He's like, come back, come back. The orange dots, I don't know if, it looks orange on our screen. Okay, so we'll go red. Dark red. Dark red. The bigger dark red. Yeah, orange and then yellow. Okay, so the bigger dark red are confirmed tunnels. Okay, I can confirm to you guys today that the tunnel next to Vortex is a maintenance tunnel and nothing more. They're not new washrooms. They're nothing else. They have the lockout zone gates similar to Timberl Falls installed already. So that is a confirmed thing. That will also be in the construction update. Yes, the red circles are confirmed holes. The black is unknown pathways currently. Yellow dots are a guess as to where the coaster is going to shoot in and out of. Like new tunnels to be made, new holes. New holes in the mountain. More holes. More holes. So we're going to have five? Yes, essentially. More drilling in the mountain. As Krega says it, the paper mache will be taken off. Yeah. The orange, I guess they look red to you guys, but the tinier little dots are footings. Those are footings. They will be done by the time the park opens to you guys. And yeah, what are your thoughts, Jasmine? I almost gave that too much. So these sort of things that you guys are seeing here that we've uncovered since the last stream are the reason why we're all sort of changing our predictions as far as the manufacturer goes. Because it's giving similarities to certain other rides that we all know and love. And as we saw in the intro, that Cedar Fair executives themselves have gone to look at, like Velosa Coaster. So the pathway of some of these footings are definitely showing signs of potential elements that are very similar to that ride. So that's why we're all thinking, mostly, thinking like there's a lot more chance that it actually could be an Intamin or something modeled very similarly after that style of Intamin. Yeah. So to me, this is starting to really shape up a little bit of the layout that we're going to be looking at. It's allowing us to make some better guesses as far as, like you said, potential other holes that are going to be in the tunnel. And it's very exciting because now we can start to kind of piece things together in between these footings. What are your thoughts? Story. Is it telling a story? Story time? OK, well. Why don't you tell your little story? My little story. I told this in this quarter earlier. Join the Discord server. So basically, my story is I went to Wonderland as my first park and then I went to Cedar Point. All the rides at Cedar Point are great. They're great rides, great rides, lots of fun, just like Leviathan Beameth and Yukon Shryker. All great, lots of fun rides. And then you make your way to the back of the park and you ride Steel Vengeance in Maverick and they just blow your mind away. Like if your first ever park is Wonderland and then you go to Cedar Point and you go ride Steel Vengeance or Maverick, you get off mind blown. You don't even think a roller coaster can do that. In my opinion, Wonderland needs the coaster that you get off mind blown. That's not the story I was asking for. I was talking about the footing map and all that. But yeah, that's the footing map that it relates. You came up with an element coming out of tunnel three. OK, so out of tunnel three, in my opinion, I think the station is going to be in the mountain. You're going to have a small little launch like Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure has that small little launch at the beginning. And then it'll go over a zero G roll and then you'll hit another launch and it'll make the beautiful intimate sound. And then Brendan will freak out what the sound is like he did on Pantheon. Watch that video and it'll go up. This is my opinion. I think it'll go up. It'll go down, do a couple of things and then head back in the mountain. Yeah, I mean that's what it looks like. Because you can see out of tunnel three, there's the straight line of them and then there's a one to the side. So that's like assuming it's a turn swooping in and then it needs the lateral bracing. Yeah. And if you do about where the electrical was there, it makes sense that like that would be some kind of turn and then a launch. Yeah. And then there was also... That was not going to be a serious launch because this is what was confusing me by like what we saw because it's very evident that it's going to be a launch. But it's so small. So it's got to be just like a little booster to get up that top hat. Whatever it ends up being. Outer bay top hat. Most rides have a launch and then a top hat. Yeah, whatever. Like Alaska coaster, for example. And then, yeah. Yeah, so we hope to see a little bit more in the old Thunder Run station because there's like a gap there right now. Yeah, I think it's looking positive in terms of the intense thrill coaster that Wonderland desperately needs. Yeah. Brendan, I think me and Jasmine covered everything. Okay, so I think it's pretty obvious that this thing's going to come out of tunnel three, head into a little booster, do some bigger element that connects it from the left side of Thunder Run to the right side of Thunder Run or vice versa. And then it's going to head on over to the sprite game and this is where we lose all information. Like something, it disappears right here, we don't have information, but we have a way out. And for those of you that remember my construction update, beginning of Winterfest, end of Halloween Haunt, the survey markings, a distance marking popped up on Guardian Support where that yellow circle is. And we have a feeling... There's also a tool on Yukon on the patio. Yeah, that it's going to come shooting out over there, whether it goes over Vortex somehow, which to me is like weird, but also going under Vortex is weird too. But I want to remind you guys, what did we see getting shipped into the mountain two days ago? W-beams, which are used to create platforms that can support rides. Can you explain what a W-beam is? So a W-beam is like an I-beam, but stronger. It is meant to build, like essentially if they wanted to build a whole new level on the mountain that could support rides, that's what they would use. So the other question was, so this was the thing we talked about on Discord, well if this is for the new ride, why was it going in on Guardian Track and not through Tunnel 3? Because my team and my friends and I know that once you get into that basement there, you can access everywhere. You can access the maintenance Tunnel 1, you can access Tunnel 3, you can access the new Tunnel by Vortex. So to send these beams for construction inside that part for the new ride, it didn't make sense why it was going in through Guardian. However, if you look at where the support columns for Vortex are, which kind of seem in the way for this possible idea, to send the coaster back into the mountain and come out the other end again, creating a new structure for that to sit on makes sense. Now the only thing that's weird is Vortex is back on the track already and it starts testing next week. So timing is very limited. So we'll have to see, I don't know, that's just, that's a huge guess again, like I said. Our information has a gap between those two yellow tunnels. The other thing too that I literally just thought of is that the W beams could also be for just general structural support of the mountain. Like let's say they wanted to do some kind of element or they want to build a load platform in an area where there's currently a structural like beam or something, they could, they could be using that to be able to remove something that's in the way of what they want to build in there. So it could be for a number of different things at this point. But to me, what it does confirm is that a significant portion of this ride, one way or another, is going to be in the mountain. Yeah. Another topic of discussion I wanted to bring up is extreme sky flyers, pot of land, because I think a lot of us have a change of opinion on extreme sky flyers, pot of land and its importance for 2025. Yeah. Grace, what I was saying earlier in the voice chat earlier in Discord was there are a lot of similarities between what we're seeing in Velocicoster and if you look at Velocicoster's layout, it does have a tight section that's like really a lot happening, a couple of launches, I think it's three launches actually in that area, the top hat, but then it has this section where it kind of sprawls out alongside the lake and it kind of goes around a pathway and comes back. So if they are taking inspiration from that it would make sense and I didn't measure it on Google Maps too, but it would be comparable for it to go to sky, I keep mixing up sky flyer and sky writer, sky flyers, area, and back. All right, more drawings. More drawings. So the yellow circles are missing information. Essentially, we don't know what's going to go on there, but there are significant signs that something serious is going to go on there. The red is boosters, the orange, obviously we don't know some of the stuff here, we don't know what straight lines, but the orange line is what I actually assume is going to be a brake run. Or something along that, like the end of the ride, a last hair time hill, something like that. Yeah, the big yellow extreme sky far potterland is an important subject now because it's near the front gate and I think we were assuming that this was going to be the station because it had a significant potterland and fitting the coaster in the mountain, the station was going to be a really complicated project, but what we've seen in the last two days is everything inside that mountain is being ripped apart. And when I tell you ripped apart, that's an understatement. We're seeing walls coming out in big buggies, like we're seeing old metal detectors, we're seeing windseeker parts and giant crates being crated out, we're seeing old ride vehicles being discarded, they are gutting that mountain and construction is starting over here. Now, what makes sense about this is they want to get the area the area is done where guests are going to walk. So these 10 to 12 footings, they're going to do now and they're going to be ready for when the park opens. So the park just has to throw those cute little fences with the trees on them and we say we're preparing for your future enjoyment. Little do you know, you're about to build the most epic ride possible, potentially, for you with some top hats and stuff like that. But what was I saying? The other plots of land they're able to access during the season without guest disruption. It doesn't disturb the guest flow and the normal operations of the day. Yeah. So let's just say that they were working on 67 footers, a part of phase one. Let's just say 67 footers. That would account for the mountain area inside the mountain and the Elpin area. And that's a good start to a coaster. And then you have the whole other areas to work during the season. So that is why you might see that. So I would have assumed we would have seen station work starting, in my opinion, even though like because you got to lay down the electrical, you got to do that. The station work is significant. It takes forever to do. So we should have seen it already. So if we're not seeing it, there's a good probability it's inside the mountain. Now, if we see that change in the next two weeks, that could change. But I think extreme sky flyers puddle land and we'll go one by one is going to house a major element near the front gate to almost be that showcase thing. Like you removed extreme sky flyer, an important part of the park skyline. Sorry, I lost my train of thought. You're going to want some major element at front gate to replace extreme sky flyer. Is Thunder Run going to be closing for the beginning of the 2025 season? No. Is that why you guys asked what's going on at Discord? No. Thunder Run is a very popular ride. Yeah. It's a Winterfest ride too. They want to keep it around. So Jasmine, what do you think about extreme sky flyers puddle land like in detail? I have more to say. I don't think they would take it down a year early because you're one, you're breaking a contract to do that. So there's probably some kind of penalty or fee or something to break the contract early. And two, it's been an iconic part of the park skyline. Not that that's a huge part of their decision-making process, but it is an iconic part of the park skyline when you're driving up to front gate. And three, it's construction expenses that they wouldn't spend right now if they didn't have to because they obviously have projects going on right now that are taking up budget. So why spend extra money on something a year ahead of time before you have to and take away from budget for what is clearly a big project that's going on? So I think the only logical solution, the only logical answer is that it is part of that project or one of the ongoing projects because we do have a couple of things happening right now but I don't think it's to do with a restaurant so I think it's to do with this. So yeah, to me, what I would love to see and again just thinking of them taking potential inspiration from rides like Velosa coaster, it would be very cool to see a large top hat in that plot of land and some other elements so that it can turn around and go back towards the mountain because it would pay homage to that iconic sort of big arch in the park skyline and it would look really cool like we already have Leviathan going around near front gate, we would have another big coaster doing an impressive element near front gate. So I think it would really contribute to the kinetics that you're seeing as you enter the park and walk up and drive up to the park if it did have some kind of showy element. I think a top hat is a really iconic one for these types of launch coasters that could be in that spot. Anything big and large will catch the Waterland GP very easily. Hi. With that being said, yeah, I agree. Like I think Jasmine, I keep going to call you Jasmine. I'm so used to it. Jasmine, what she pointed out is so true. So you have your start of the ride. Let's say the mountain is the station. It comes out. It's got your little boosters and it does its really tight maneuvers like Velocicoster does. Like it's very slow going tight, tight, tight and then it's going to launch out towards extreme sky flyer like launch out and head towards extreme sky flyer. And that's where it'll do. It's like showcase skyline, good replacement extreme sky flyer type element. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Grace, when she did the interviews with either with the news or her video, I'm not exactly sure which one it was. She did say the extreme sky flyer area was for an attraction, but they're not ready to announce for that yet. So it is for something in terms of something like an attraction could be anything. It could be a ride. It could be a show. It's an attraction. We don't know. It's not as far as we know, it's just not a restaurant. Yeah. So yeah, too stressed. Let's go over this. Someone just asked in chat. Just so just to confirm, the family coaster is looking a lot more unlikely now. I would say it's almost impossible. It'd be really weird for a family coaster to have these types of footings, especially on land that has been dry and flat for so long. That soil is going to be really strong. You wouldn't need that type of footing nor that case on the large. Yes. So it's a very large footing. The importance also is it's got that really strong case on around it as well. We see this used on a lot of intense moments on intense launch coasters. So we did a lot of research. There are other coasters like some BNM inverts use them, but the footings are a lot smaller and they're in swampier land. So wetlands will use those casons too, but this isn't wetlands and it's a really big footing. So that would suggest this is going to be a high intense launch coaster. Now to not get your hopes up, I think some people here are painting that are thinking that we're trying to say that it's going to be intimate. That's not the case. We don't know. We don't know the manufacturer. Hopefully I'll know on Monday or Tuesday for you guys. Fingers crossed. But it is 100% looking based off of construction projects we've seen. It's showing a lot of similarities to the fast and furious coaster construction. Batman escaped Gotham City. It's showing a lot of similarities to that one. As well as Velocicoster. As well as Velocicoster, but it's also showing similarities to SNS, Maxforce and Full Throttle. So again, we're not going to rule out. It's SNS and Premier. Yeah. Yeah, I said SNS, right? Yeah, and Premier. And Premier. Yes. So there are coaster manufacturers that are not ruled out. But I want to talk about something because some Americans won me over with this because I was pretty anti-premier too when I heard it from a pretty reliable source, if you remember my video. I was kind of let down and I didn't want to believe it. But imagine a long Full Throttle. That would be cool. Something that doesn't stop in the middle of the ride, but yeah. Like that would be better than a lot of the rides at Wonderland. Yeah. I mean, it would be our fastest launch coaster and you see how long backlog gets aligned these days. So. I would take a long Full Throttle in a heartbeat, especially one that's utilizing the mountain. As long as it doesn't have the comfortable collars. Do we think it's BNM? I don't. I have no longer have that in my mind. I think SNS is more likely to be BNM at this point. Yeah. I won't ever fully rule out BNM just because our park is literally like BNM's best friend. Whoa. These days. That's true. That's true. There's five BNMs. But there are significant signs that are pointing to Intamin, SNS, or Premiere. Significant. Now, Mach Striker Model is a huge possibility too, based off what we're seeing. They use those smaller boosters, especially ones that can go vertical too, to help it get over some of these weirder elements we're seeing at the beginning of the ride. Because so let's go over that. Let's go back to this layout. Let's say the station's in the mount, right? We don't... We're assuming that it's going to do a launch and then it's doing some really sharp inversion or turn. Yeah, it's either an airtime hill or a swooping turn. It's going to do a swoop. So like the people can still walk under the path because eventually they don't want to cut the path off. But they still want to put the coaster there. And then it hits a very subtle straight section with significant electrical work done to it. And it's going to go up. We know that. It goes up and we don't know what that element's going to be. If it's going to be an Outer Bank, what do you call it? Outer Banked airtime hill or a top hat. Or a top hat, which would be really weird at the beginning of a ride too, if you think about it. So again, there is some weirdness to this, which the Mach Stryker model does do, which you can't ignore. So there are models. As the thing is, also if anybody who's thinking a Mach Extreme Spinner, there's only two in the world at the moment. The first one, which was Time Traveler is too old and they could have redone their type of footing by now. And then the other one at Plopsaland, Ride the Happiness, is all in a swamp. So the type of footing is completely different. So we're not saying it couldn't be a Mach Extreme Spinner, but we don't have enough evidence to point towards that because of the footings now. Yeah. I mean, so Hockey Ninja brings it. So Hockey Ninja's question is, I find it weird. I have my doubts that Skyflyer areas relate to the 2025 coaster at all. That's fair. You're allowed to have doubts. Yeah. No, no, no. I'm trying to figure out how to word it. I have significant reasons to believe the coaster will head out from the Vortex Corner, the Vortex Guardian Lift Hill Corner, of the mountain and head towards Extreme Skyflyer. I'll word it that way. I have significant reason. I don't have definitive proof. That's a good way of wording it, right? Yeah, enough reason to theorize it. Yeah. What a have good capacity. Premier would not have good capacity based off of what we've seen so far. With their trains. Yes, with their trains. They have small tight trains, which are more difficult for statuses. Oh, Jake wanted to talk about this on the podcast. So you guys just let it. Jake, would you like to talk about Velocic coaster for a second? Put your, Matt Jasmine, take a drink or something. This is going to be a while. Velocic coaster is so good. In terms of, that sounded really gay. Velocic coaster is really good in terms of its operations and how it operates quickly. It's designed very well in terms of how it operates. So number one, it has lockers. So nobody's coming up into the station with any bags that they have to put any bins in the bins. Nobody has their phone. You walk through a metal detector. If you have a piece of metal on you, they're sending you back to the lockers. They're like, ah, ah, ah, ah. So that's, that's what the ride up's doing. No, no, no, no, no, no. Anyway, so you make your way through the lockers. You get to, towards Velocic coaster station and the trains at that ride are very easy. They don't have seat belts and it's just a lap bar that rises up. It comes from above you, like the new Skyrush restraints. This is the new Gen Intamin restraints. Very, very good trains. As well, when they pull in and out of the station, it's a very short amount of time that it takes to pull in and out of the station. So it takes only 15 seconds for Velocic. When the second, the operators press the dispatch button. There's no gates at the front or back of the station that they have, the train has to wait for to open, which allows the train to move out of the station as soon as they press the buttons. And then from 15 seconds from when the train parks, the next train's already parked and the restraints are unlocking. Compared to other rides, let's use Mako at SeaWorld, for example, those trains take 25 seconds. So that's an extra 10 seconds. 10 seconds adds up over a course of an hour. That takes 25 seconds for a train to fully pull out, pull in, stop, and unlock its restraints. It's crazy that it's 10 seconds faster. And then because they're hydraulic restraints, they don't have to push down slightly. They just kind of go. They launch up. If you've ever seen or ridden Velocic coaster, they tell you to put your hands in the air. And if you put your face here, boom, you're getting mauled in the face by a lap bar. So you got to put your hands up and lean back when those restraints come up because you're getting hit in the face. As well as the operations, they have four tendons on the platform. They all start in the middle and go back towards their safety squares. And it's very, very fast. It's very fast because there's no seat belts. All you do is sit down and it goes. As well as for a ride to operate safely, it needs an exit gate. So the ride area is secure. And every single exit gate at Velocic coaster is within like one or two, one and a half meters of the train itself just outside of the clearance area. So they swing open and then they automatically lock behind you, which is a very... It's not like a magnetic gate that a ride operator would have to push on. It's automatic and it's quick. Like when you're exiting the ride, all you do is take three steps and you're already out of the area. Compared to other rides, which you have to walk three steps compared to like say 10 steps and telling the general public to do certain things does take a little bit longer. From what I've seen at other parks when I go to those parks. So it speeds up the operation significantly. If you've ever ridden Velocic coaster, you know by the second you sit down, your restraints basically are already being checked. Like as soon as you sit down, you're being checked and within 30 seconds of your train pulling in, you're already pulling out. Jasmine, you've ridden out, you can agree. Yes. I also though, want to make an argument on behalf of Premier. Go ahead. I was a surprise to it. So Revenge of the Mummy is a beloved ride at Universal. I love it too. It's in my opinion a very highly underrated ride. When people go to Universal, they don't often talk about it as like, the way people talk about Velocic coaster. But people love it. Like if you ever took that ride out, people would ride it. And I think we could get a jacked up version of that that is modeled to have a similar layout similar ride experience as Velocic coaster, but done by Premier. And here's my argument for it. The ride capacity for Revenge of the Mummy is actually higher than Velocic coaster. It's 2,000 people per hour. Velocic coaster is 1,700. But my question is, do they ever hit it? I think so. That line moves. It moves. That line moves. Velocic coaster, for example, from what I've heard from an Alto Arrayan video, they average around 1550 in terms of ride upper dispatches, like the 1550 in terms of riders per hour. So they don't actually hit the theoretical 1,800. Velocic coaster, you mean? Does it? Yeah, Velocic coaster. It doesn't always hit. Like they don't hit their maximum hourly capacity. So here's my argument for Revenge of the Mummy is it has a dual loading platform. So it's always loading two trains at once. And it's usually, so the trains you load and then they move forwards a little bit and they stop. And you have a little like pre-ride sort of spiel that they say, and then you go on. And most times that I've ridden it, and I ride this ride a lot because the line moves and the single rider line especially moves, they usually have both of those rides moving forwards at the same time. So they're just constantly going. And the, so it's 16 riders per train, 13 vehicles. And yeah, 2,000 riders per hour. And I feel like they get pretty close to, if not regularly hitting it. This ride is prepared. This is a premier ride, yeah. And I appreciate that it's also sort of like dark ride meets coaster, which you guys know I've been pushing for on this. I'm like, if you're putting it in the mountain, there better be some theming in there. There better be like at least, at least the beginning and end of the ride, like a bit of a dark ride element to it. I hope there's a storyline. But yeah, that 2,000 people per hour is something that, and if the Cedar Fair executives and the Wonderland team went to Orlando and checked out Velocicoster, I feel like there's very little chance they didn't also look at Revenge of the Mummy, which is why we're hearing rumblings of Premier also being potentially the manufacturer for this ride. So yeah, so I think it's possible because of the way that ride eats crowds. It also does have the locker system. I would personally prefer to see the locker system, the way that it is at Velocicoster, where it's like three quarters of the way through the line, because honestly having to go in and out of a separate room before and after the ride is like, it gets, that's probably more of a line hold-up than the line itself. But if they were to do that sort of partway through the queue locker system and do a Revenge of the Mummy style of station, where they've got two cars always loading and always moving at the same time, even though the cars would be smaller, I think you could actually get greater ridership and as far as that visual at the front of the park, you would be seeing a car pass by on that element constantly. I think it would be a really good option. And just because Wonderland is known to push manufacturers to do different things, I think it's possible that we could see like a jacked up version of a Mummy style coaster. And again, just knowing that the executives went there and would have seen both of those rides, they could have said, oh, we want this, but we're not sure we want to go with Intamin. And then they could have gone to Mummy, been told about the capacity, seen how the line moves, seen the locker system, how it can be utilized with that ride as well, and been like, this could be a good option to kind of merge together. I think it's possible. And again, this is purely speculation, but I'm just making a case for Premier and the fact that that is actually a really good ride. And maybe we can expect more from Premier than we would think. Yeah. As another point towards Velasa Coaster is it doesn't require too many staff to operate. There's only an operator, a person at the entrance, obviously, a person throwing everybody in the rows, not throwing literally, but then four people checking restraints, which is good. Like it doesn't like some rides that have really, really high hourly capacities require a lot more staff. Like, for example, let's use King-de-Caw when it had both platforms. It required a massive group of 15 staff to operate. Now they don't use that side because of staffing, but just saying another positive for that. That's a good point. I'm trying to think how many staff are at Mummy on any given day. Like on a busy day, which is usually when I go, there's one person at the single rider line and one person at the regular line telling you which lane to go to. There's one ride-off and there's one person at the unload station because it is two separate platforms. There's the load platform and the unload platform. So that's what, four total. And then two people checking restraints? No, I think it's the same people that tell you what platform to go to the check restraints. I'm pretty sure. I'm trying to think, but I don't remember seeing like extra people. So I think it was the same too. Somebody in the comments correct me if I'm wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure it's four total. Yeah. Like Wonderland, if they can, they want to avoid spending money on positions. So that's why you'll see, in my opinion, you might see the kiosk coming out into the front area where you can either pick up your fast line buy your ticket for the day, that sort of thing. To reduce on the amount of staffing and then also not saying this is happening this year or anytime in the future, but we've seen at Kings Island and Cedar Point, the self-scan parking area, parking tools, which is another big area there. Brendan? You saying that makes me think we will get the separate room locker situation before you get in line, which is unfortunate because having the middle of the line locker system is really smooth. But it does require like two or three attendants because you have the one person telling you where to go to put your stuff and they're the one that also like, if you're confused or your bag doesn't fit and you need a paid locker, they're also the one that explains to you what to do. You have at least two people at the metal detectors. So it would be less attendance if they had like, you go into this room or this, you know, area and you put your stuff in your locker and then you just walk through the metal detector entering the ride. Yeah. So now that you have me thinking of that, I'm like darn it, we're not going to get to the mid-ride on the mid-line lockers. But you can see it well done in terms of the bags at Yukon Striker. They have a, with the bins that go over the platform, no, there's no opportunity for stealing. There's no confusion with the lockers. And Wonderland guests are different than American guests. Wonderland guests bring massive backpacks. They bring this, they bring, it's a whole day of it. They have so much stuff in their backpack. People who go to parks in the U.S. bring maybe a fanny pack and throw everything in zipper pockets. And they have a lot of lads on them. Or like one of the mid-backpacks, like the lounge flies, they can squish into those little lockers. Yeah, they can squish into the small lockers. So if we were to see something at Wonderland, I would think they would probably do it, again, like Yukon Striker with the nice bins. Everybody, there's not a lot of problems with them. It doesn't really work, though, if they don't want metal detectors. Yes. The separate room situation or the separate locker situation would have to be like, if the manufacturer's like, you're really going to need metal detectors on this ride. Like Velocicoster, I don't think that ride would work. It would either that or it needs Nets. I would compare it a lot with security measures, like as far as protecting the people below if it didn't have the metal detectors. Yeah, it would need a lot of Nets because it goes over the path like four times. Several times, yeah. And what you've seen added to Leviathan. What? The Nets. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which seems like they might consider the locker and metal detector situation because they've had to go and retroactively add those Nets. You haven't said a lot in a while, Brendan. I don't know. There's a lot of chat. Like, okay, so I want to talk, let's talk about some of these because coaster manufacturer, again, we don't know. We don't know. I told you, wait till Monday or Tuesday and we should know for you guys. Someone said, let Jake reveal the coaster. I don't know anything. You know more than the average person now. Yeah, if you're watching the stream, you know more than the average person. I want to talk about Zamperla for a second. Because so we're burying Zamperla based off of a podcast. So I do want to stress that. So Zamperla was on another podcast and they said that they only had three projects that they were currently working on two kitties and one family thrill. The family thrill is a really, you know, it's a smaller model. Doesn't use these kinds of footings at all. There's one possible, like devil's advocate here. If Wonderland asked for complete secrecy on this project, Zamperla would obviously be not out there talking on a roller coaster podcast. Be like, well, we actually have four projects in 2025 and once a lightning launch. So there is that possibility that this is could be still a Zamperla lightning launch and that Wonderland has just asked for complete secrecy. I can tell you this much. Jasmine was around for Yukon and Jasmine's experienced what I've experienced in the last four, five, six days and Wonderland is really protective of this project. Very protective of this project and they're really proud of it. There's already been tours to higher ups in the chain on this construction site. So whatever it is, Wonderland does not want out. They don't want it spoken. And yes, so like again, as much as I'm rolling out Zamperla based off of the podcast, we can't fully roll it out. But what I'm trying to paint for you guys here is it's going to be an intense launch coaster based off of the evidence that we're seeing. So take that however you will. It is going to be an intense launch coaster with some really cool elements in Alpen and then whatever it does in the yellow circles, it does in the yellow circles. We'll find out more. TBD. And there's 67 footers in the Alpen mountain area. That's a lot. There's a lot to start a ride. The size of those, like you said, the size of those ones that we've seen so far is enough to tell us that it's a significant the amount of force that this ride is going to be dealing with. Like I think the idea of it being like a little, you know, silly little cutesy family coaster is kind of not, not so considerable at this point. Like I would definitely look into those footings, be like that thing's going to have some force to it. Jake, you look like you've seen a coaster right now. I'm going red. Just it's going to be good. It's good. I have full faith in Wonderland now that they made a really good decision. And no matter what the manufacturer is, I think we're going to come out of this being like, wow, Leviathan who? Watch it end up being the Zamperla family launch coaster. And we just go with it. We're all going to see our words. If it's anything like cheat on at Busch Gardens, Busch Gardens Tampa, it's going to be a good ride. You know what, Nathan? You know what, Nathan? You did the chat as service. You did discord as service. Can you guys distract my viewers and like have a little debate? Someone just asked me, do we have confirmation? Those are footers. Give me a second. Nathan, you just got this live stream Patreon level treatment. Give me a second. So Jasmine, what's your top five roller coasters? Oh my goodness. Are you really asking me this? Yeah, top five. Okay, okay, okay. And explain every single one. Okay. So number one is iron guasi because that thing is wild. No, it's that's the only RMC I've been on. So I feel like can't rank the others in comparison. But for me, that's my number one because it's just, it just feels unhinged. Yeah. And I love that's our number two has to be Velosa coaster. The two of those are often in competition with each other because they're both awesome coasters, but they're so different. And I just love that like hinged scary feeling that you get from the RMC. Number three, this is where it gets hard for me. Probably Guardians of the Galaxy. Just because it's a really fun coaster. Like I just, I giggle through that whole ride. And I really like the spinning element. I love like a lot of people are like, I hate spinning rides. I'm the opposite. I'm that person that loves spinning rides. You will catch me on like mission space, orange side at Epcot when everybody else is like, rip that thing out and throw it in the trash. So that's number three. Number four, this is tough because I've, there's so many good coasters here in Orlando, but I always think back to Wonderland's coasters too. Oh, wants to give it to behemoth. Oh, not Leviathan. I also haven't been on behemoth since like 2019. 2019 was prime behemoth. But it's like no problem now. Yeah. Yeah. So that definitely still sticks out because like you said, it was prime time for behemoth. Okay. And yes, that means I do like behemoth better than Leviathan. Don't, don't get mad. I mean, I had the same opinion in 2019. So yeah. Right. So I'm going to change. Um, and then number five, that's, that's tough. Number five, um, I'm mixing up my Seaworld, not Seaworld. She's going to say, um, or she grow. Kumba. Kumba. I think it's Kumba for me. What about Montu? I think I've just been on Kumba more recently. Montu was down last time I was there. So I, it's not fresh in my mind, but I had a really good ride on Kumba more recently. Yeah. Kumba, it runs. Nylons and Florida, which I think is hilarious. Yes, indeed. But yeah, so my top five will probably change depending on when you ask me. It's always shifting around, but those top two have been like neck and neck for a few years now. When I get on some other RMCs though, ask me again. Yeah. So someone asked how do we know those are footings before you on the screen is a, what do you call them again? A drill. A drill. And if you see that drill bit, it matches the silver tube size and it matches the whole cutouts in the ground. This specific one can go really deep. So it is going to dig footings for a coaster. If it's not for a coaster, they're building a tower there. So those size of the footings and those metal caissons, that we did a lot of research. And I guess I can, I'm going to answer your question, Ches, in a second by the way, because I actually like that question a lot. By the way, just to get your minds in, pre-thought, he asked, why are we not seeing footings in extreme sky flyers pot of land yet? So that metal caisson and that size of a footing is used in really loose soil for, let's say, they're building a coaster, that kind of size. And that would be because it's soil that is wet, like swamp or loose. Like it's been recently disturbed. This soil here is really strong. I would assume it's really strong. It's been there forever. It hasn't been recently disturbed and they wouldn't need this. So the other case where they use these kind of metal caissons and the size of a footing is towers. So with tower construction, if they're going vertical really high, you'll see those metal caissons and that type of a footing. For example, if you're new to the coaster construction, when you build an apartment building really, really tall, the taller you go, the deeper you have to go for the basement of the apartment building. Yeah. So Ches asked, I will go in order, because we're all going to probably have the same answer, probably, I guess. Why do we not see footings in Extreme Skyflyer's pot of land and I'll even include anywhere else? I think we already answered this. We answered this partly throughout the stream already. This, these areas that we're looking at right now is a pathway. This pathway is open throughout the year and people need to walk on this pathway. Extreme Skyflyer and behind the mountain area is not a pathway. And the construction can be done without disturbing the park's operations. Yeah, it's not there to disturb the park's operations so they can do it whenever they want, wherever they want. So you saw this during Yukon Stryker, for example. They did the tunnel in the off season of the year before because if they did the tunnel while in the middle of the season, vortex would have had to have been closed. So they did the tunnel before, they put vortex back together and then they continued with the rest of the construction. This is kind of similar. So they have to do all the footings here first before the park opens and then once the park opens, they can go to the other parts that's not disturbing the daily operations of the park. Jetham? I mean, I concur. It's very easy to, I mean, that area where they removed Skyflyer is going to be blocked off this year regardless. So what's the Russian doing that first? They want to do the areas first where people are going to have to, you know, pass through at some point, even if they put walls up or whatever. You don't want to be doing drilling and stirring up dust and stuff while guests are walking through the parks. So they would want to prioritize the areas where they might have to, you know, wall off little areas here or there or put that construction behind walls or even, you know, some of them might be open. I don't know how it's going to play out. But there's other areas where they don't have to worry about that during open season. So they're just not putting those first. Simply put. Easy, easy peasy. The other significant thing is this company doing the caissons for our 2025 project is also currently doing the water slide caissons. So they have a whole team over there. And once they're done over there, they're going to head on over here and help out as well. And I have a feeling that team is going to do the other half of this project. So starting an extreme sky flyer and working their way towards the mountain. That's my, that's my prediction. I don't know that for sure, but that's what I would assume. The park is in a significant rush. I have to remind you guys that some of you were losing faith in this area being for the coaster. I was starting to lose a little faith too, just about a week ago. And suddenly out of nowhere, things started happening. And they're happening really quick, very quick. They're almost done the water slide foundations. I think they have about 12 more to go. More were dropped off, by the way, that would have been done already based off of what we saw in my last update, but more were dropped off. And they've already started building forms for these footings. So they have a little workstation I found where I saw that they're building forms for these foundations. And there's a lot of them. It's a whole station. So yeah, it's going to really heat up guys. So now that you're seeing this, it's going to heat up out here. And then suddenly it's going to die out in Alpen because there's not much more they can do. And then you're going to see them go work on the station. So that'll tell everything. If you see extreme skyfire work happening in the next four weeks, I would say that's probably going to be the station and not an element. And if we don't see work happening in the next four weeks that is like a square cutout with a foundation, then it's just an element and the station's in the mountain. So that's your telltale sign there if you're trying to problem solve what this could be. And for those of you who are unfamiliar, Brendan is that media day, right? On April 20th. On April 20th. So 15 days from now, we will have an in-person construction update. We might have one earlier. I'm working real hard on getting something for you guys. So we'll see. We'll see. Fingers crossed. Jake, what's a block zone? Well, for those of you who are unfamiliar, a block zone is a section of RAID that only one train may occupy. At the end of a block zone is a method to stop a train in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents roller coaster trains from colliding with one another. Thank you, El Toro Ryan. It's drilled into my mind. You are the biggest El Toro Ryan thing. I love his videos. The steel vengeance problematic roller coaster's videos, I've watched 13 times. They are some of the best videos ever. Someone asked me the other day, why don't you make in-detail videos about how rides work? And I was like, they're already done? They take like a month as well. I'm like, they're done. You can't outdo El Toro Ryan when he's already produced, so there's no point. The thing with him, too, is he's just a great guy all around. You are his biggest fan, though. Yes. You are 100% his biggest fan. I have my post notifications on. He posts on Twitter, I'm going to upload at 12 o'clock. I literally clear my schedule to upload to watch his video, right, when it uploads at 12 o'clock. I'm like, I need to watch this video right away. He's been talking about a rip-right rocket video for like three months. I'm like, I'm ready to watch this rip-right rocket video. Oh my gosh, yeah. I saw his, he had like a screenshot the other day. Was it on YouTube or something that he shared it? And he was showing his progress before, and I was like, dang, this guy's putting in the work. I do want to say something, and I could be wrong. So if you guys can go find El Toro Ryan's video that had the statement about Cedar Fair checking out Velocicoster, can you DM it to me? Because Jake and I were trying to find it, and we watched almost every single video we possibly could. Yeah, because you had it in your video. I had it in my video, and it looks like, I'm going to say, it appears the video might have been removed, and if it is, that's a telltale sign to me, because anyone who's worked with me or been friends with me since Yukon knows that when Cedar Fair doesn't like a video, you get a message to remove that video. Trust me, you'll get messaged within 24 hours to have that video down. So if that video is not up, I'm telling you right now, if you guys want to know if it's intimate or not, go look and see if El Toro Ryan's video with that statement in it is still up. If it's not, I want to know when it came down. I'm so curious. Yeah, and I'm really curious too, because we tried finding it, but we can't obviously confirm, because obviously we could have missed something. Yeah, we don't have enough time. We were skimming through the videos, we weren't watching the whole thing, because we've already watched all of it. So if anyone can find that video, send it to me, because I am curious if it was moved, because with my experience with Cedar Fair, yeah, that's a telltale sign if that video no longer exists. What did the people want to know what he said? Oh, what did he say? Yeah. It was at the beginning. Oh, did some people then see the beginning of the story? Oh, okay, okay, okay. We included it. So basically he said that Cedar Fair was at checking out Velosa Coaster, and that he had rumblings that they were ordered two of the models, essentially, to build it to their parks. And this was a year ago. He uploaded it on February 2nd. So this is how we kind of know, or we think that the video was taken down, because it was on February 2nd, because I DMed him for permission to use the clip in my video. And he said, yeah. So, and I'm telling you, if you guys think I have good sources, and to be honest, to defend myself here, I have a really good track record lately with Extreme Skyflyer and the new VIP area name and the renovations going on at Backlot, and other stuff too. But if you think I'm good, he's 10 times better. I could only imagine the sources he has access to. So if he says something. People just randomly reach out to and be like, hey, I saw this today. Here's a picture. Here's a video or whatever. If he says something, I believe it. He does say to take it with a grain of salt though. So obviously take that with a grain of salt. But when El Toro Orion says something, it has more backing than when I say something. So with him saying that he, like he gave a very specific number, and when I gave a very specific number, like 67 footings, you know to, you know to trust things, right? Because where do those numbers come from? Someone found the video by the looks of it because I'm getting DMs with YouTube links. February 1st, they're saying. Oh, okay. Okay. That's probably why we were struggling. What's the video title? We'll click on the link. Look at the link. Okay. So that, that at least erases that because. Yeah, we thought it was deleted. I guess we just missed the video. We were a day late. We watched like, we tried watching him at a 20 minute, nine minute video skim and skimming through it. Literally just like skipping. Oh, it's about Dornie Park's new coaster. So we were watching all the top thrill 2 videos. That's why. I lost it. I'm trying to keep an eye on the chat and I saw someone asking, what if they take the stream down? Don't worry about that because you can just clip out parts. So if Wonderland is like, don't talk about that. We'll just clip the section out. It's fine. So yeah, I can touch on that a bit. I have a really good relationship with the park and we have an understanding that if I ever do cross a line, they will reach out to me and they know that I will remove something if they don't like it. I have that kind of respect for the park and the people that work there that if I ever overstep that I will remove it. So they know that and they appreciate it and yeah, it's been working great. They do give me a lot more freedom than some other parks would give their people and they're learning to be a lot more free too. They are learning to let information kind of get out there but in the right way and obviously not too much. And I will tell you that yes, they are very protective of this project. They are probably here watching me. But yeah, no, they're really good and I have to say a lot of my respect for the park does come from Grace and Heather. The two of them are like legends. So I love what they do at the park. And they're very respectful of me. So I'm obviously going to make sure that I try my best to be as respectful to them. It obviously gets difficult at times because we are a speculation channel. So obviously there's going to be times where the foot gets slid across the line and the park has to like run in. Come back. And yeah. Come back. Hey, over there. But yeah, trying to think. If that's, there'll be a construction update tomorrow. It is packed with information. I think a lot of them are just going to be information moving forward. Yeah. Patreon will get it tonight. Yes. Jake will remind me. Jake reminds me about a lot of things because I'm very forgetful lately. More TikToks to come. Yeah. But. Join the Discord server. Yes. Subscribe to Patreon if you want to see the news early. Yes. You don't have to. Yes. Obviously it will all come out on the YouTube videos eventually. And like the stream if you haven't already. Yes. Thank you, Jasmine, for being here. And everything I said in this stream has nothing to do with my job working at Wonderland. Just want to make sure everybody's aware of that. Has nothing to do with none of the information that I get. Well, it should defend you here. Like, and this isn't meant to be an insult, but ride ops don't know anything outside of their ride safety. Operating the safe route. And my channel, my channel doesn't cover that. So don't worry. I'm a speculation about future attractions and ride ops and supervisors and team leads and I don't know anything about that stuff. In terms of announcements, we get the same announcement as you guys get when the park makes the announcement. And we're never going to put Jake in a position where he's describing his job. So don't worry. Jasmine's dog. There is no hangout stream tonight. As people were asking for Benny earlier, and I didn't want to interrupt. So he's just here to say goodbye. He's like, I'm going to go back to sleep. He's so done with me right now. But yeah. So that's Benny's appearance for the night. He just came to say goodbye. Bye. Oh, he's very upset. Now he does want me to pick him up. He's like, it changed my mind. All right. I like the thing. Like, maybe for an hour and a half with no playing. He's so cute. All right. Well, I guess this is where we'll end the stream. Bye. Have a great one. Bye, guys. We'll see you when you see you. See you. See you. Bye.