 Hello, it's Bob Cook here, and I'm the principal founder of the Manchester Institute for Psychotherapy And I want to introduce you to Karin Burke. Karin works here as a psychotherapist She's a trainer and a supervisor, and she runs a very popular five-day course here on Loss and bereavement. In fact, it carries a certificate It's over four months Ten o'clock to five o'clock and I thought I'd like to just go over with her what she actually does on this Wonderful certificate so you can get an idea. So hello Karin. Hello there Bob. Nice to meet you So for the viewers sake, could you tell me a little bit about this course and what you do on the course and Who would be interested in coming on the course, you know, who's the course actually aimed at? Thank you The certificate course in loss and bereavement is aimed at a variety of professionals Obviously counsellors, psychotherapists and people who work in an area where there will be loss and bereavement so past participants in the course have been above and beyond the Counselling and psychotherapy Practitioners I've had people who have worked in hospices and who don't cancel people and Would like to understand more about the process of loss. I Think the other thing to remember is that If I think about all of the clients that I have seen over the years of practice All of them come with a form of loss Okay, so although this This course is primarily and it's obvious to consider that this is about People who have died. Yeah However, there are other losses that we have in our life and other losses that our clients will have experienced in their life and So I like to think that it gives a good grounding for all practice It doesn't mean that you are working with either the bereavement or the terminally Oh, for example, no, that's too because of courses, you know, we're talking about trauma here. Absolutely How I just go through the different days, I think it's five days and it just tell me what you focus on each of those days So, you know the views can get a sort of the idea and I teach yeah, I Think the first thing I'd like to say is that we break up each day. Yeah So that it's not just all hard work theory. Oh, yeah, I don't work like that. Oh good. So and What there is is there's a Real cohesion as far as the group is concerned because You know, and I also try to reiterate because we all as adults will have experienced some form of loss The people need to look at themselves and that may be By gaining support from the group. So it needs to be a cohesive group. Okay. There are theory However, it's also Very very experiential. So there's the academic side and the experiential At the end on the final module What right about module three Will have already looked at different types and different things as far as loss and bereavement is concerned And what I ask is that on the final module each Participant does 15 to 20 minute presentation to their peers on an area of bereavement That is of either of interest them or wasn't known to them. Oh, how interesting. So an example would be someone gave a presentation on How people of the Jewish faith would Their rituals as far as bereavement was concerned someone else from a Buddhist point of view And Also culturally we've had presentations on how people in Germany, which is very different from anybody else in Europe As far as their rituals are concerned So you asked me the question as far as the five modules so on the first module We look at various theories because there are many theories as far as bereavement concerns. Okay on the second module We look at what we call complicated bereavement. Oh, that's interesting. And we'll also look then at the differences between bereavement styles and actually complicated bereavement On module three We look at specific types of loss. So for example there is the suicide death of children and Because each of those will have certain characteristics as far as loss is concerned and there's various topics within that day and then The whole of the fourth module is actually working with children who have been So specifically to children that's right and then a module five as I explained it's it's our final day So obviously there's an ending as far as the group is concerned We've been together for four months. Yeah, you know, they'll get to know each other as a group and individually through the triad work We do the experiential when they're sharing with others On each of the modules I will generally Do a piece in the middle of the room Regarding the bereavement That's right. Yes for the pertinent to the theoretical work that we've done that day. So I Like to think I'm reasonably flexible. So if the participants would want me to do something I Particularly around one area then, you know, I'm quite happy as well as looking at sort of what's set to yes So after you've done the presentation That's worked out okay, they then get the Certificate which is awarded by the institute. Absolutely great Whatever question I was thinking while you're talking so I know you're a Gestalt trainer supervisor. So is One of the criteria is To come on this course is it sort of module specific in other words Do you have to know about Gestalt or transaction analysis? No, absolutely not absolutely not because in the same way as my supervision I You know, I Supervised people of all different modalities supervision isn't Modality specific it may be portray me and then once people qualify they often preferred, you know like to find out more about different models, so It's a really good question in the same way that the course is open to people who are not not You know either canceling or therapy qualified So not if there are no specific Okay, okay, that's fabulous. Well, it sounds a really interesting model and Thank you for talking about the experience of the course and I was just thinking he was talking Maybe I'll come on it one day because of course we you know, I've had eyes Everybody else has had a lot so it sounds a wonderful enriching course. So thank you Thank you very much Bob and thank you for listening and I hope this Conversation about the loss of women's certificate course here has been useful to you. Bye. Bye