 I'm Amber Lockhart, this is Ross Lockhart's. We own Heart and Cell Farm in Grandin, North Dakota. And we have a small scale vegetable production here. And we're doing a little research this year on controlling cabbage loopers in an organic system. So we found in our farm over the years, we've been in operation since 2013. And that we've been really interested in growing brassica crops such as cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, anything. Brussels sprouts. And those are major crops for us in our rotation and in our marketing system. So we've wanted to explore ways to look at controlling some of the pests that we've been experiencing, in particular imported cabbage worm and cabbage loopers in our system without the use of any chemical interventions. What we're trying to find out is can we find a way to control that damage from the pests, the cabbage looper using the row cover and the flowers to track beneficial insects in a really low cost, low labor way for small scale growers. And what our hope is is that we can find a way to be able to harvest these items such as the cabbage or the cauliflower that has minimal to no pests inside or damage. So we can bring that to bigger markets such as a grocery store, which wouldn't have any tolerance for pest damage. Whereas at a farmer's market, you would have people that would be still willing to purchase that product. We've looked at using a control group of no intervention at all, just basically growing in the field under normal conditions. We're doing one treatment with a floating row cover over the bed. We're doing a third treatment with no row cover, but with beneficial planting of flowers, different flower species to try to bring in other insects to sort of counterbalance the damage from the pests. And then we're doing a fourth treatment with both the row cover and the beneficial planting. We're particularly averse to using any sort of chemicals on our farm. And so when we are using those types of interventions, there's a cost associated with that, the cost of the products themselves, but also a cost to the native habitat within the system. We're trying to strike a balance in our farm with the different insects and other creatures that live in the soil and on the soil. So we're trying to stay away from any sort of pesticide use altogether.