 So talk about EMC, actually, we know EMC, they support us with a cube and everything, but you're talking about EMC is on the high end. Okay, Hitachi has market share numbers that show them as number one in virtualization. You wrote a post, and I wrote a post, amplifying the fact that EMC is number one in virtualization. So who's number one? Yeah, let's clarify that. So EMC is number one in VMware, and presumably, according to this, so ESG came up with some data that suggested that in terms of share penetration within VMware and other virtualized accounts, EMC was by far the dominant account, and that's not a shock, right? You would expect that, right? They work hard in VMware, they own VMware, it's a big, big area of emphasis for them. They get a lot of interest. So they're number one in VMware virtualization. So they're clearly number one, and in my opinion, and the data shows it in the US, anyway, it was US data, but I wouldn't be shocked if it's overseas as well, in VMware environments, hands down. Now, that's different than Hitachi. Hitachi is number one, or maybe number two, but right up there in virtualization of storage, the virtualization of the storage back end, until Vplex, EMC really didn't have a solution for virtualized storage, and I would say Hitachi's number one there in terms of maybe licenses sold, I don't know about revenue, we'll have IDC on, maybe they can give us some perspective on.