 thank you. How's your dad doing? Not much progress at the moment unfortunately but then again things could be a lot worse. Well that's good not not worse is something. Yes yes that's what we keep telling ourselves it's something. Yes thank you. Is he home or is he still in the hospital? He's going back to hospital again. I'll keep me posted. What can you see the screen? I can thank you yes. Did you do Disney? Did you do BA? What are you doing? I about you just closed BA out this afternoon but I mean I may kick myself because it might drop again tomorrow but looking looking at it. I know but I I really thought day trade so I mean if you held it through today how much did you end up making in this then? Just sure 300. That was good that was good. Yeah it was 56% that was good. Terrific great. Yeah and Disney I took when you called it today at the moment. How many did you do with these? Two or three or? I did three okay. I'm down about a dollar break even. Okay so that's fine that's not a big deal. So this looks good. So then go ahead yeah so you're on a roll here so the last couple ones you've been doing good. Yes I have thank you yeah yes yes green is good. But I mean do you feel like you're more in a groove? I mean obviously I'm calling trade after trade what did you end up doing with the market ones? Did you get out of them last week or did you hold those through? What are you doing with those? I didn't take the second spider that you called because I was still in the first and I let that run out and then I obviously took the profit off that. Yeah I did yeah I did okay in that. I made in those so they were okay. But you didn't do the other ones. I didn't take the the the other spider. I'm just looking back at my transactions now. Okay so the only thing you have on right now is Disney and that's it. Yes I did lose a little bit on Amazon. Yeah that one if you didn't get out of it when it had that lift again I don't know if you're watching your charts continuously you know lately it seems like I've been around so I'm watching but if you didn't watch it then you might have gotten out of that break even or negative. But um Google worked and I wish you had asked me about which one to do because I would have told you Google was better than Amazon but you chose to do. I mean I again I know you're working it through but I mean at some point you know I think your account will be back up again where you could do every single trade that I call. Yes because this definitely would have outweighed whatever you did with Amazon. This was a nice move into Google. Yes yes I was yes I did look at that. Yeah I mean it was a little bit more expensive than Amazon but it wasn't like double the price I mean this wasn't cheap either so you know. Yes Amazon I think when I looked at them that was slightly more affordable for me as opposed to Google. But I know you've been you've been mixing it up with your risk that's why I said how many did you do with this. I have but even then one of the Google was pushing it a little bit too far. Well I know but you've risked $500 in this Disney or plus 500 plus haven't you. If you did three what do you what is your risk on this. The Disney works out at 348. Oh okay all right. So that's not too bad that's okay. No but last week you were risking like 500 I thought you said you were gonna stay with that then so then you could have taken you could have taken one more of these. I was thinking you risked $500 in this. I know it's I don't want to push you too soon as you know. I'm not saying that you should I'm just saying that you have to be consistent and you're like yes I know I know we have that consistency yes but the problem the problem is you know you're better off taking more than one anyway because then you can obviously split your profit as I did with the spider and I was taking. Yeah that worked out yeah that was fine. Yes when you've got to consider that as well and when you take one like I had in BA you just got to take it off the table when you see it otherwise I don't want to I mean that was a decent chunk as well was that. But I'm just saying I think it's better if you're going to do that you do it in even numbers two four six eight ten. I agree I agree but unfortunately sometimes when you are when you when you're calculating your options up it's either over or under so much so you can't you can't get it spot on every time can you. No that's why I'm saying pick an area you know I'm fine with that. I have it's between basically between four and five shall we say. I know but you didn't you didn't take you didn't take a full amount of the Disney history something or whatever you just said but I mean that's fine it's fine I mean I mean. Yeah I mean I have I have three contracts so what did the pair pay 116. So wherever this gets a lift take it out if it pushes up tomorrow great if it pushes up Friday do it so wherever this gets a lift that's my two cents on that don't necessarily hold this to the strike that wasn't the reason I called it that price there wasn't a lot of choices in that to pick it for the what I thought was a good trade so you don't necessarily have to hold this to the strike. Right was there any reason why you called it when you called it? I just called it late I mean there's only so I only have one you know brain and two hands so I mean we ended up day trading this and so I mean like if I I should have gotten it out earlier or you probably you know people would have been happier but I mean again you're not in the room yet I I hope you come back to the room for me you know I hope you start to day trade again I think you're doing well maybe you need to prove to yourself that you can do well but I don't know I don't know where you're at with your head I know you prefer doing options now you're doing well with them I still think day trading is I still think day trading is easier in the sense because of the trades you're you're definitely know where you're at and you're flat every day by the end of the day and when you're in options sometimes yes you can have good returns on investment in them but you're stressed out like you like I don't know what this does tomorrow morning in the gap this is good this you're gonna end up positive in this is gonna run up here in right into the clothes look at this yes that's good yes I mean I was looking at taking it out tomorrow after the I don't know what time today I was expecting you know some kind of pull in shall we say no I'm not saying it's gonna pull in tomorrow I'm just saying wherever this goes take it out it may be tomorrow it may not be tomorrow I don't know and you shouldn't be looking for those pull ins my god I just was going to give you a hands up and say congratulations and now you had to say a dirty word what are you doing with this pull ins nonsense huh price drops bullies so when a price drops what do you call it because it's either retracement I don't call it retracement I don't call it a pullback I don't know you tell me what I call it because I just spit whatever comes out of my mouth but I don't call it any of the two things that you just said oh I mean I don't even know what you're talking about like I don't even call that there's nothing to call I call the things that are working this is getting bought today it rally that's what you call you don't call a retracement you don't call a pullback there's nothing to call there's nothing to do when a stock does that if you're looking to go long that wouldn't give you an indication to do anything there'd be no action required at that point do you understand I'm an action oriented person so when I'm looking at something I'm looking to determine what it's doing when there's an action required if this pulls back in your mind or retraces there's a no action required at that point does that make sense so therefore there's nothing to call there's nothing to do there's no action yes yes it's more of the case of the terminology shall I say I know but I don't talk like that a red day really I mean I suppose you refer to it as red days don't you yeah a red day I'm not saying this has a red day even if even if it does I don't even know what this does I can't tell here until I see where it's going to open in the pre-market tomorrow but I'm just saying like I was really going to give you a congratulations today because you've had like five winners in a row and then you use a bad word and said pullback and I just can't believe you're so talking like that what did you say erosion of price for the first half hour does that sound better no none of it sounds good you shouldn't be concerned with it if you took the trade and you're flat or a lonely up a little bit here then the trade has room to go and if you choose to take the trade based on your risk whatever it does tomorrow if it's not positive enough to feel that you would need to get out if it doesn't run up then you just move off of it because you took the risk whatever 375 380 whatever you risked in this that it's on it's either going to go tomorrow but it's not going to go and if it's not going to go tomorrow there's no reason sweating a bullet on it because you did it out past Friday anyway so what are you worried about yes I do yes yes yeah I'm not I'm not worried about it it's just the fact that things are going on things have been going okay thank you so yeah I think you're doing well so you've had three trades in a row grain that you booked money for five how many have you had here in a row um even Lulu did you what did you do with did you end up getting out positive Lulu oh Lulu not quite but I was nearly there I think that was probably down $100 yeah I mean the break even was like 700 that was I mean I was nearly down I was nearly the position was nearly dead I know that was like this was like unbelievable I mean that was just like insanity if anybody get out of this break even I think that was like a positive trade in my mind so if you lost a little in that it's fine so you ended up okay with that then yes as soon as it went over the top on that and it turned on that red day that first red bar I was out at that that moment in time okay yeah that's fine I couldn't I couldn't have got out any better than I did anyway so I was happy with okay so basically you did Disney Iran it's good you made money in the spy last week you lost an Amazon you made money in BA and you made money I think in the queue is from the previous one yes but not not you know not a lot we're not talking bucket loads here you know we're I'm doing okay oh my god bucket loads what how do you expect to make a bucket load if you're only doing one or two or three contracts you can't make a bucket load well I say I mean you got to get to that point I missed some progress here let's say covering the premium Melissa if I'm covering the premium then I'm happy if you're making money you should be happy consistently that's the end of the story I mean I wish that you had done Google so yeah I mean I wish you had even done the spy but it doesn't matter there's a couple you didn't do so you didn't do the queues either then you didn't do the queues or the spy because you would have been up in the queues yesterday I don't you know I don't know what you would have done with it but I did I'm talking about the new one the new the new one I thought you only called one queues and I thought that was the one that I did was it the 180 call if you if you got out of it it's 412 if you got out of it already then I'm not I don't understand why I got out of it already yeah I think that's the one I did actually all right I did okay on that I missed 452 so that was good okay then you did do that one all right then you did yeah yeah I did I did the the previous spy 282 yeah there's been so many I'm just you know yeah I'd fallen on that that was okay so and Lulu yes I lost $160 actually on that okay so you know that's the way it goes okay good all right I think you're doing well and just stop with the pullbacks and retracement talk because it's it's not gonna it just doesn't benefit you at all well it's visual isn't it you see it don't you there's nothing here to see at all about anything you shouldn't be seeing that don't you understand like that the fact that your brain is working in that way that you're seeing anything like that is concerning because there's nothing to gain from that there's nothing that you're gonna see when you see what you're saying that's going to give you information that's going to help you make a decision to make money so therefore stop seeing it that's I mean like I don't see it do you under I don't I don't know if this is what I'm trying to say is coming across but like I don't talk like that because my brain doesn't think like that and so that's why I'm trying to I I'm trying to tell you to not see it and not think like that and just like delete it do you know what I'm saying no I don't stop looking at a card like that if you say well I see I see waves on the chart so I see I know but I didn't I didn't I didn't teach you that I didn't teach you that and I want you to forget about how do you see that how do you see bars that fall you you must see red days you see red days I mean obviously you shot red days you shot red I see a chart based on the gaps that's the only thing that I see we've gone over this before you've been with me long enough to know that's the only thing that I see it's the only thing that matters it's the only thing that I even am concerned myself with I don't see anything else right right so you don't I mean you must look at the gaps that they fall you know you've got you've got as I know you do you look at gaps down so what happens when you get three days two days down you've got a gap and then yes it retraces from there then rises price rises and it continues I don't even know what you're talking about without looking at something but again you're talking about retracements and pullbacks what you just described was that I focus on the gap so I don't you know I mean I this is I'm kind of shocked that like after all the time that you've been listening to me like you still don't get that part of it like I mean this is something that you really gotta think about I absolutely get what you mean on yaps I see that yeah I definitely see that but you're but you're not focusing on that as the only thing that counts you're focusing on all this other stuff um I don't focus on it I focus on the gap that is what stands out just tell me that you focus on the wave well you can't help but see retracement and sitting on superior I don't see that at all I don't even see that I don't even it's like it that's like it doesn't even I don't even know what you're talking about so the chart that we're looking at we're looking at the chart of the spy now yes and go back to between October and December there are three peaks also like that word has no meeting either but go ahead all right I'm just letting you know these things are like talking like jibber jabber but go ahead well yeah but when you look at those three peaks and you can then continue it across you're talking about this this and this yeah I'm talking about that top yes there yes which then continues across to the right becomes resistance doesn't it so and then you get hitting resistance then dropping back from it and then off the market goes again so what's your point well it's more terminology because you go no it's the way that your brain is actually functioning and reading this in the way that you described it which I would never have so it is the way that your brain works and you can control your brain or you cannot control your brain but if you teach your brain to look at something in a certain manner which I did you know 10 11 years ago then that's the way your brain reads it and this is where the intuition comes into it and it's a knowing so your brain just functions like when you walk down the stairs you don't think about taking one step in front of the other I don't think about reading gaps I go there it is and then I just see it and then I go to the analysis but I mean my brain functions in a way that I don't think like yours and so I think the problem is you're so wanting to make it it fit into the construction of all the other things that you've learned and it isn't working out that way and until I realize that with you I'd say the last six months or longer I realize that those things actually interfere with your ability to be able to to get into that knowing period where you're looking at the gaps because the things that you're talking about peaks or valleys or I don't know whatever you just said I mean really actually affect your ability to be able to focus on what's important which is the gap yes I do focus on the gap but obviously the gap I mean when you look at that the spy when it fell off in December there are several camps and it obviously hit resistance then it gapped the second day big red bar then it gapped again and it closed the gap then it fell again again that's something that I don't talk about either but anyways what's your point again well well I'm trying to get over is there's obviously several gaps on that chart which obviously give you indications of where the market is going I'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to get the point across here though well the main thing is also just talking about the fact that we have we hit resistance then you get that price the price then drops from resistance which it did on that the on that last on that last touch really of resistance and then you got that big red right and that's when you had everyone on tv screaming bearish except for me about the market yes well it was to a point wasn't it it fell off into the end of the year I know but we never broke the uptrend but we never broke the uptrend yes yes if you're looking further back yes I know what you're looking at yes so what's your point though my point is the fact that you still get support and resistance don't you but you can't be training based on that you can look at that to help you combine with something like where you want to get in a good position or if you want to take an exit or something like that but as far as saying I'm going to go along here and support I'm going to shorten to resistance you know as well as I do that that doesn't work to consistently determine how you should be trading and one of the reasons that it doesn't is because very often people don't read support and resistance correctly or they can't read a trend correctly but you know how to do this I mean I'm just so surprised that you still keep talking like this but it really it's like how many years did you trade before you actually met me I think it was longer than I was aware of five ten fifteen twenty um a long time that was before when you used to go buy stock over the counter when I started trading so like 20 years yeah so like 20 years then the 90s I mean yeah at least 20 years huh 80s yes so more than 20 years so that this is eye opening for me so that is why you are so stuck on this stuff so since the 1980s yeah but you don't yes but you don't pick only stuff up one go do you it doesn't matter that's when you began and you learned this these things which many people do I'm not criticizing you for that many people do teach this and many people talk like that again people talk like that on tv I'm on with but don't you see that that's there's something lacking there because obviously but surely that's just a term of phrase really as opposed to what you've seen a gap I mean I understand what you've seen a gap but your brain isn't working like that your brain is working the words that you speak actually do have meaning you can call it a term but that's what you're you're describing what your brain is actually seen so the words when you say a word now just think about this there you when you say a word if you're saying the word it's the thing that your brain is thinking it's like if you tell someone I can't stand your guts I hate you or if you tell the person I'm in love with you it's what your brain is thinking or your heart is feeling it just fits out of your mouth so I mean you can't you can't say to someone oh my god I'm in love with you if you really hate their guts it would be really hard to do so the fact is that when you say when you talk like this that you're seeing support or resistance or you're wanting to pull back that is how your brain is working so you're being natural in your in your words in your communication so do you see how you have to change the way your brain is thinking and so that's where the skill comes in it's a skill set where you train your brain now you can train your brain like that or you can take a long time to train your brain I'm trying to help you here do this but you're instead of retraining your brain you're wanting to just add another piece of the puzzle in but it's not that's where there's a that's where there's like a missing piece right you're trying to put a picture of a puzzle together in something which is a chart to determine the direction the next direction it's going to go but you're using pieces from a different puzzle it's like if you were putting together a puzzle of a of a forest and you're and then you have another puzzle going on in the side and that puzzle is a winter wonderland you're trying to take pieces from this that you think meet in that one because you mixed them all up and you got a mixed up one night and now you realize wait a minute that piece of the puzzle belongs to the other puzzle now I know and then the picture becomes clear I don't know if this is making sense but I'm trying to explain this in a way that does yes yes I understand what you mean you're trying to take a picture from a puzzle that belongs in another puzzle and put it in this puzzle because it's brown and it looks like a similar shape but when you stick it over you say wait a minute it doesn't quite go in there and then then you have to then you realize and you scratch your head and say it goes in the other puzzle and now I don't know where that other piece is supposed to go and the puzzles are mixed up and this is you know this is the thing about trading but anyways I don't talk like that and there's a reason because I just don't think like that in my mind right but you you use resistance and support as targets don't you yeah but that's already after you're in the training to determine where it's gonna go so I mean if I know if I if I say well this is a good bullish gap when we go along it then we're in and then I say oh boop adoo this is like I mean let's just go to Disney right now yeah I don't I don't I don't I don't think and I should probably do a video tonight I don't I'm not saying a shot in hell but you know I think it's a long shot for Disney to go to 120 in the next two weeks I mean I I mean it could I mean I guess anything's possible but it's a long shot but the trade will be positive at 118 118 50 119 ish with the market so it's a long shot that this goes to 120 or through that in the next two weeks it could happen it's a long shot and I probably need to send it out tonight in the letter but the trade will be positive it will be whatever it is it will be positive if it runs up to 118 118 50 119 so so I'm looking at that but again that's not the like that was this is an afterthought I don't know if this makes any sense like I saw the gap and that's I saw the gap in the pre-market ooh this is gonna rally and then yes today that I thought I understand what you saw when I looked at the the one-minute chart when you look at that you see where the gaps opened in relation to previous bars shall we say so but anyways the supportive resistance here is not the determining factor for taking the trade does that make sense so it's like you're not taking trades or you're exiting trades or you're worried about trades yes you know what I'm saying you you you you obviously take that into consideration don't you when you look at the trade as a position to take long or short don't you well I do I don't know what you're looking at but that's what I'm saying for you I'm looking at the same thing I mean it's like it's like ba today I mean I'm looking I would be surprised if it doesn't if it probably will but it's yeah I mean but I was trying to be conservative with this as well because it's I mean I I this needed a big fat red day didn't have it today probably somewhere in here this will will it will it tomorrow I don't I don't know though who can say Fed minutes around tomorrow afternoon if that ends up being well this probably will not go right tomorrow this is this is kind of like a wild card it was it was it was it worked it was it was money it wasn't like this wasn't like oh this is the most amazing thing in the world I mean I don't see that here right now so I mean you did a good job with this you did a good job with it worked out in your favor but um I don't even know what I was trying to say here what you were trying to say it did but I'm looking for some kind of target to say well there's a possibility that it will hit this level yeah but again it still has to do it I know but it still has to do it in the time that you're in the trade if you're in an option trade it's not a it's not a swing trade the same thing with the day trade it's also hit it before four o'clock you got to exit the trade before four you got to get out of the option before the expires I mean absolutely today yeah because one day of a bounce now we'll lose all the profits and that could very well happen I don't know if it will but I'm saying it could it could it could happen anyways I'm seeing here the problem with you you never told me that you started trading in the 80s I did not realize that but either way that is one of the reasons why there's some things going on in your head that I I've been you know round and round with you about so I don't know I mean you're gonna have to come with a meeting of the minds at some point where you're gonna decide that you don't you don't want to look at those things but I'm not sure I mean it is definitely difficult if you for 30 years you've been looking at things in the same way and you have to change it I you know that I don't know what to say it's kind of almost like you have to just erase everything and start over again I don't know but you don't think it's a problem that's the best that's that's the problem too you don't think these other things are a problem I think they are for you you don't think they are so you know well I I don't I don't consider them to be a problem but obviously there's something that you have at the back of your mind when you look at a chart and you think well it could do this you either following candles you look at candles and they give you indications of what what may or possibly will happen so you know you go down the candlestick route and obviously then you can pick other things up can't you with various lagging indicators which drive me nuts anyway which I do not use anyway so you know you do have various things don't you that you pick up automatically as you go along no I don't I don't you know I know I don't know what you're talking about because I don't like that I don't like that I'm not going to touch that have you not have you not looked at other things that no do you honestly think that I haven't I mean it's speed but you know I am very very way that I talk with people on TV that disagree with me like I don't give a crap what anyone else thinks I mean I literally just like I'm in my own mind with what I know and that is pretty much it so no I do not look at anything else I don't there's it's not necessary right but that comes from the conviction and the confidence and the confidence has to come from having consistent green trades which you're doing better with which is really really good that's good you know um so we'll see how you're doing already season here you know yes yes I'm moving in the right direction I have to be thankful for yes yeah I mean you sound more positive which is good oh thank you I'm glad yeah I mean you do I don't I mean you've had a series of good trades I'm not I'm not sure what to tell you though about the fact that you've been looking at charts for as long as you have to as far as not looking at other things well she'll say that's when I really start when I started but I mean you know very tentatively many many years ago with you know buying stock over the counter it's a bit like the old bucket shops really I suppose really but that's how I started literally trading trading on account because you have to pay for it for two weeks so that is hilarious you could buy a stock and not pay for it for two weeks yes it was held on account so did you so you're not actually trading like we do now you know was trading right you would buy because if you're going to buy the stock and they actually sold it before you want to hand the cash over did you have you need a margin though you had to pay the full price or how did that work yes you would stump up the full price if you were completing the transaction shall we say that is hilarious I didn't get to the full transaction because I would close the position out before it was settlement day but what if you were down though well that's where the loss would come in you would not we see the full amount back would you know but that's it so yes that was a while ago wow that is like ancient times yeah but I mean but I will comment on one thing you're talking about don't undo other things I don't but if I if I happen to be in a conversation with someone on tv or if I happen to catch someone else's webinar if I'm getting on the mic or if I happen to look at another email or get solicited or something I will tell you this if I happen to skim something else the one benefit of that is it always strengthens my own conviction in what I'm doing that has actually helped me get better I'd say in the last few years not only being on tv but also actually if I will take the time which I usually don't but if I would take the time to read something or listen to two sentences of what someone would say and I realized that it's it's it's totally idiotic it actually helps my conviction what I know that has helped my own ability to continue to do better over time so in that sense it has benefited me but it's never that I look at that whatever that other person said and gives it any weight or positivity or say though oh yeah well that person knows what they're talking about I I don't feel that way because what I look at is so unique and you know December and the call that I made in the market is probably proof positive of that because I mean I was on the opposite side of pretty much everybody you know but even I did not know the market would go completely straight up which is basically what it has done I mean I didn't know that I mean I can't see everything into the future I did not know that would occur that you know that to me even was outstanding well that's that's just it isn't it's knowing how far how long to take a trade and what the gap is telling you to but you don't have to worry about it you know that's a nice thing you don't have to worry about it because you're in and out and you're active you're not managing a hedge fund and you don't have millions of dollars on you're active so if you happen to get out of a trade and make 50 percent that's okay if you happen to get out of a trade and make 150 percent that's great too your only goal is to make money and so if you're active you have that wiggle room you can watch something live and make a decision if it's going to continue or follow through or not that day and get out now that's where I'm saying to you I think the way that you look at things has sometimes hurt you because sometimes you've looked at something you think that it's going to stop and then it does continue you read it wrong in live time but again this is about the fact that in when live time when things are happening very quickly if I'm not directing you in the room then you're it's up to you and if you're if your mind is not just in like a computer doing it without analyzing it through then it gets away from you does that make sense yes yes it does definitely I mean I'm obviously looking at B.A. I'm thinking yes I made profit today but what if it falls again tomorrow so but the likelihood of that even though it's high based on the possibility of the follow through here is not that high when you consider the fact of the FOMC minutes are out tomorrow afternoon to the market may rally and would fail would this would fail so again this wasn't the biggest trade in the world and I didn't say it was so I mean your exit today in this or yesterday as an exit was fine some trades are just trades Disney is just a trade that's it I'm telling you right now I you know I mean I'm telling you Disney is just a trade that do it make money whatever that is the fact really which is missing that I need to hammer in really the fact that yes it's money yes it's profit take it off the table look for the next one I'm trying to as I always have them really trying to look for getting what the cost is out so that I'm covering all the time I'm trying to cover what I am actually laying out in a premium what do you mean you're trying to cover if you take a trade and you risk three hundred dollars and you're up a hundred bucks yes then what do you mean you're up a hundred bucks huh yeah we've had this conversation before where as I said we're looking to make more than one I know we have had this conversation and that's the ball in every trade but I'm telling you I've been calling a lot of trades recently on the letter sometimes when I see a move is going to happen and sometimes their one are sometimes they're more sometimes they're less so I mean we this is the same conversation that we've had before yes yes that it is it is it's yes and I am now I have been taking money off the table whatever the figure I mean today what was it 50 something percent in BA that's a good trade what's wrong with that it's not even early in season it just do it what's I mean there's that's not like it's like I could have not called it like that would be done like what do you mean I mean do you know what I'm saying yes I do I do understand what you mean yes because if you haven't called it then I want to make the 50% so yes it is money and it's money that's bound I know but I mean I'm losing what your point is here hurry up because then I gotta get going I gotta get some work done it's only 430 but well I'm confused what your point is no it's just it's just the fact that what I'm laying out on the table on the following trade that I place I could lose I don't know so we say $500 if I'm risking $500 and I just made $200 we've been through this before I did a video over the weekend and I was analyzing that and I'm going to analyze the day trades too if you lost in every trade that didn't work out you'd still be ahead this year there were six losers and even if you ended up losing in Lulu and didn't get out break even or didn't get out positive which some people did you'd have seven losers then in 22 trades it wouldn't even matter this is the same conversation we've had before when a system has more winners than losers you'd literally have to scalp it out and make you know $25 and kill the trade and it just they just don't work like that the momentum either comes in and goes or it is flat and lays there in which case you're stuck in it negative and then you wait through the train which I told you to do which I think you are doing and Lulu is I mean this is if this isn't a good example of the way that I look at a chart I mean even I was shocked that this ended up going positive because I mean it was like I saw something but it's really like every single solitary one that I call if they don't go right away just hold the suckers because I mean the chances of them going in the time that I call them is extremely high although it is so much better when it goes right away in fact I emailed you about this because I wanted to analyze what you did with this with the Costco on the altar I mean look at this oh Costco was a fantastic trick I was like I was like it's stupid yes pity it wasn't a longer term I know I mean but there was I mean I every time I looked at it I was like okay I mean this just I mean yes I mean look time look at the red bars next to nothing I know even today yes in fact this is probably going to 250 before it even does anything at all 247.09 I mean you know anyways the point I was trying to make is don't overly concern yourself with risk to award concern yourself with taking the trains and making money in them and using the information that you've learned for me to do that which you know but now that I know that you've been doing different things for 30 plus years then I can see with the struggle you've gone through but that is something that you were going to have to correct and if you're not willing to agree with me on that fact that it is affecting you in a negative way then then I don't I don't know what to say to you about that Melissa I'm not disagreeing with you on any fact that you have said there's no disagreement there at all I mean I'm you know I see the way you place your trades everything and I see how you you see charts how they play out so there's no disagreement there it's just it's just the simple fact of booking the money and just taking the money at the end of the day I think you're too worried about getting out and you should and that is that has been problematic for you now and it was problematic for you when you were risking $3,000 in a trade so I mean that is you know I mean that again that is something you still have not overcome and you better believe you better overcome it now because if you get back to the point if that's your goal by the end of 2019 to start being able to risk $2,500 $3,000 in these trades again like you did before then then you need to get over the fact because I mean I mean I you can go back and watch the videos I mean there was trade after trade where you were up 50% 60% 70% and you didn't get out of the trades and you turned it around 100% in loss so you that is something that you must overcome you're too stuck on that thing of risk to reward it's just let it be just let it be just let it be in other words like if something's gonna go just let it do its thing like like this in here like just let it do it and there's nothing you don't even have to think and and with this you didn't really have to think that much it are you could have thought you could have thought when it didn't go right the first day you could have gone out and we talked about that but what if you didn't if you were away if you missed it if you didn't watch it whatever if your expectations were I'm stuck on this to the end of time it still ended up playing out and if you hadn't and if you lost it and killed it then fine but I'm just saying like it don't you're making it too hard this you make look at this you why are you even talking about out of this here I told you to get out of it yesterday don't stress about this you made money like as far as Lula goes it was I lost basically on the erosion of price I know but then it turned around so then you just there's nothing to think about it's just don't even think in time so you know yes it got over the price that I took it out but the erosion of time literally but you're missing the point if you took it on the day it dropped and felt it was negative for everybody if you were still in the train what's there to think about it's called a do nothing and so don't there's what there's nothing to think about either the trains run and go up or down or they just they're dead and then sometimes they do like this thing here so you know I mean what I'm saying is don't overthink the exit you are doing that you are overthinking this this might have a big day tomorrow if it does you shouldn't be concerned if you could have made an extra 300 it's not a big deal I'll call another trade sometime soon so I mean it's like you did the right thing getting out of this because there was a situation in the next 24 hours that this could have failed to follow through and to be honest with you I really think it should have gone today so it didn't but I'm not saying that it doesn't but I to be honest with you I think it should have gone today so you know right right more more than it did put it that way yes yes yes we'll see what it does tomorrow that will be anyway don't overthink the exit right I'll certainly try not to I don't know God you overthink everything but it's really just because you've been doing this for so long and until you get out of your own way about that you're not going to get like a groove about it you see a question here a question where you know why something's doing what it's doing and why you know why won't it hit that target that's what I'm looking for so that's so but who cares I mean who cares really I mean if you made 150 bucks in this or whatever you made in this then who cares yeah just show 300 it's great okay you made 300 dollars so who cares yes it's very good I'm very pleased you know it's like I think you're almost taking it like too seriously or something I don't know I've never met anybody like that usually people don't take trading seriously enough it's like you're like at the opposite side of the spectrum or something oh I take it seriously definitely I know but I'm saying you almost take it seriously too much where you're over analyzing everything then it works against you yes quite possibly all right Phillip have a great night you too all right good luck in Disney thank you