 Hey, we're live. Oh, this is so exciting. I am so glad that you guys joined me today today. We get to talk about Underwear and bras and panties and socks I know you guys probably have a closet full of them or you have drawers full of them or if you're like me You probably have them in something that looks like this, which is a tub So we're gonna talk about all kinds of strategies today And I'm really glad that you've joined me on this decluttering journey now I don't want you to judge what you hear today. This is not about judging It's about being aware and then having choices So if you have like bad panties and you have bad socks and all that stuff at the end of today You will look at it from a different perspective That's my goal for you and then you have choices You can do something with that information or you can keep the same as you have right now and you can do nothing But at least you'll have choices right now I have pre-recorded a short video for you and I want to play that so that it sets the stage It's also going to provoke some questions. So when we're done, we're gonna all jump on camera together We're gonna have a discussion and we're gonna find a new strategy if you Discover that one of the things that's in this video triggers something for you and you're like That's me. Then we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna have a conversation. So here's that pre-recorded video If you look at this bin here I have 32 pair of running socks now if you watch YouTube videos on how to declutter your closets You'll find that a lot of the videos will say get rid of everything that doesn't spark joy The problem is this every one of these pairs of socks sparks joy for me, right? That reminds me of a time probably like every morning when I go outside in the crisp cool morning air And I go running and I'm one with my creator. I'm one with the universe. I get a release endorphins I get it get my adrenaline my blood flowing I feel Fantastic and I come back and what do I have to show for it? There's a little pair of wet smelly socks, right? Every one of these pair of socks sparks joy for me. Why on earth would I get rid of them? Well, the question is why do I have 32 pair? I only have check this out Two feet and I can only wear one pair at a time, right? So I do not need 32 pair now you could argue with me and say well What if you didn't do the laundry for a while? I get that argument I totally understand that the truth of the matter is historically for me. I do all of my laundry every Monday It's on a schedule. That's when it gets done So every single Monday all of the the running socks that are inside the hamper are going to get washed Which is a total of what seven pair? If I wear one per day, that's seven pair. So I have seven pair of socks. They come out of the wash What happens to them? Well, they get sandwiched together like this and they go in the top of the bin when I go to go running What do I do? I grab a pair out of the top. I put them on and I go running So I'm recycling the same seven or eight pair in the top and I got all these extra socks at the bottom that I never use So why do I have so many? So I stopped and I asked myself. Why do I have so many? Well when I was growing up I'm one of 19 kids We had a very similar system and it looked kind of like this The difference was we had lots of people that were wearing the socks Different brothers and sisters that would wear them when they came back from the wash. They would go in the big collective bin I love the collective bin for that reason. The problem is without realizing it I moved out into the world and I recreated the big bin of socks I do not need 32 pair of socks and I don't remember the last time I bought socks I don't buy these because I love to collect I bought them because unconsciously this was the norm This was the norm now the exercise is this We're gonna do this with socks and panties for all of the customers and all of the clients that I have I don't know why but it averages between about 20 to 50 pair of panties and socks Extra socks extra panties why I have no idea but the reality is this you have one butt and you have two feet You can wear one pair of panties and you can can wear a sock on each foot Which is one pair of socks right one pair of socks So what we're gonna do is we're going to get our grocery bags And we're gonna go through all of our socks and all of our panties and we're gonna remove all of them Except what you will wear for one week. Now. I know what you're saying Oh Angela what happens if I run through the sprinkler and my clothes get wet or my feet get wet and I need another pair of socks Okay, that's great. I've got 32 pair of running socks here. I could remove at least at least 20 pair of them and not miss them. Okay, so we're gonna do that right now. I'm gonna take this empty bag one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen Twenty I just took out 20 pair of running socks now with the handles I'm gonna hang these on the back of the door in my closet for 30 days. I'm not going to touch them Why because I don't touch them now, so I'm not gonna miss them This is gonna be the new recycling bin. You see how many we got rid of just by getting rid of 20 pair now I still have you know a dozen pair So if I go running and my feet get wet or you know, I need extra pair or a friend comes over and they go running with me And they need a pair. I've got I still have plenty of socks. Okay, we're gonna do the same thing with my work socks These are my work socks and for this I have 38 pair I don't know why I have 38 pair, but this was like the collective bin I had growing up This was my norm. This is my comfort zone, but the reality is I still only have two feet I can only wear one pair of socks at a time right one pair of socks one for each foot That's it now in the course of a day I might wear a pair of running socks and I might wear a regular pair of socks So that's two pair of socks, but I don't need 38 pair right because again, I do laundry every week So we're gonna do the same thing We're gonna take out 20 pair of socks that leaves me 18 pair I don't know why I need 18 pair, but I certainly don't need 38 pair right? So here we go one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty Um, I think I could do six more and not miss them. Let's do six more one two three four five six Okay, so there's 26 in this one and there are 20 in this one Look how much stuff I got rid of already just getting rid of my socks Okay now don't feel bad for me. It's not like my feet are going to go naked because guess what I still have a whole bunch left Now what's going to happen is this when I wash my clothes for the next 30 days I'm going to put them back in the bin and if there are any holes or anything inside any of these socks I'm going to throw that pair away and I'll get a pair out of here Or maybe I just have enough and I don't I don't need anymore The reality is this I'm going to train myself for 30 days without getting rid of my stuff I'm going to train myself that this is the new norm This is the new norm. This will be out of sight. They're still there. I didn't get rid of them yet This is the new norm and I promise you this At the end of 30 days Nothing will have changed other than I will live with a new norm Still having everything I had before still having plenty of socks to wear Because this is my new norm And then what we're going to do at the end of the 30 days We're going to throw these away now normally if you have clothes and stuff that you could recycle You recycle them or you go give them to the goodwill or whatever these socks are probably 10 or 15 years old Nobody wants these socks. So at the end of the 30 days, I'm going to chunk these and I'm going to be done with them for life I have all the socks I need right here in these two plastic bins, right? So the assignment for you is I want you to do the same and I want you to do this with your socks and with your panties Over the next 30 days, we're going to go through our closets and it's not pulling everything out Does it spark joy? Of course it sparks joy. That's why you have it, right? That's not what we're doing What we're doing is we're saying can I live with less and the answer is yes You already live with less if we were to go through the pants that you have in your closet You probably have 50 pair of pants and how many of them do you wear three four five five five might be pushing it Right, you wear the same clothes over and over and over again. Why that is our comfort zone So what we're going to do is we're going to remove the stuff on the peripheral of our comfort zone Starting with our socks and our panties All right So starting with our socks and our panties a really interesting thing happened after I created this clip and I did not see it coming I was wearing the same socks over and over and over again because I had lots of them And if a sock would wear out and we'd get a hole in it I would throw it away and I would get one out of my spare bin Right and I started using the same socks over and over and over again And I did this for about six months after I made this little video clip and then the most amazing thing happened All my socks kind of like deteriorated at the same time and then I felt really mad at myself I was a what what on earth I gave away a much really good pair of socks They were old they were threadbare and they were falling apart some of them And I kept the spares in hopes that if one wore out I could match it with one that looked identical to it that didn't have holes in it And so I kept wearing these same socks over and over again And I had purchased them in a pack that was like maybe 10 bucks or something at walmart And it was an inexpensive pair of socks and they were just regular socks just everyday regular socks The interesting thing that happened was they all started wearing out about the same time and the the heels started coming apart from the leg part of the sock and I said well, why don't I go buy some new socks Just kind of get rid of all of them and I'll start over again And while I was mad at myself because I'd gotten rid of what I considered good socks I asked new questions of myself and I said if I was going to buy new socks What would they look like and one of the things that I said to myself was You know, I would like a pair that doesn't sweat when my feet get hot and sweaty that it wicks away the sweat like the performance fabrics that I wear for my cleaning uniforms And so is there a pair of said socks that exists? So I went in in research of some proper socks and what I discovered was there are in fact Performance socks and they're cushioned and they wick away sweat and they're durable and they're guaranteed for like 10 years or something And they had a lot of really high ratings and reviews online And so I bought those socks as a replacement to the ones that I was getting rid of and I had thrown away What is most interesting about that was all of a sudden what I thought was bringing me joy was like 10xed With new joy by the new socks that I that I had purchased and then I was like, oh my goodness I have been going this long wearing like crappy socks because it's what I had And it's not what I could have been wearing. I certainly could have afforded the other pairs of socks They were like $15 for a pack So they were like really on the expensive side compared to what I had purchased the first time, right But what was most interesting was every single day to this day And this is like, I don't know maybe six months or a year later Every single day when I get up and I put on the new socks that are cushioned and my feet feel like Oh my goodness. I have like happy feet and I'm like dancing on air It was amazing that I I wasn't going to go buy socks But because I had decluttered and I had gotten rid of some socks It forced me into this new mindset of Wait a second. I have choices. I can buy something better for myself So as we start this process with our socks and our panties and our bras and our Gloves coats hats that kind of stuff as we're decluttering stuff I'm I'm going to start from a different place I don't want us to go through and just do what I just did on the video Where I just say let's randomly get rid of stuff because we have too many too many is not a very good reason Right It might be that you have a cheap pair or maybe you have a lot of really nice stuff And so why get rid of any of it just because you have too much What I want to do is I want to start from a different place In a perfect world and this is where I should have started all those years ago when I started investing in socks and underwear and all that stuff I should have asked this question in a perfect world if money was no object What kind of socks would you wear? And are they the socks that you have in your closet or your drawer right now? Think about that one. Okay. Now we have some folks that have joined us and I'm super glad that you guys have I see heather heather. I'm going to add you to our stream. Welcome today. And how are you doing? I'm good. How are you? I'm very good. It's good to see you here today. You too Thank you So tell me tell me about your socks. You have you have socks that you love Super cute socks. I have super cute socks, but it seems like my super cute socks are never comfortable So I buy them and I keep them because they're so cute and they're brand new But I'll never wear them or they were given to me, you know at the holidays and they're cute and they're fuzzier But they slip off or they but they're still so cute and someone gave them to me So that's that's a big issue of mine So if you guys have holiday socks that you were given as a gift Write holiday socks in the comments because I'm curious to know how many people just have a drawer of holiday socks These are not socks with santa's on them These are socks that someone gave you and you kept them out of kindness to the person that gave them to you And they're they might be super cute But you will never wear them number one or you have no place to wear them Or they're the wrong size or they are just I don't know not for you I know that my mother blessed her heart crocheted my husband a pair of socks and they had like these big popcorn ball things on them And they they could not be worn inside a shoe But we have lots of hardwood floors and so he'll walk down the stairs So he doesn't slip down the stairs on the way down Then he puts on these slipper socks that my mother Crocheted and then he ice skates around our hardwood floors Because there's so much poof and it makes the floor really slippery with these with these fun socks So he ice skates and So Heather tell me about your socks. Do you have do you have a program for your socks? Like we have we have these in bins. Do you have a bin or do you have a drawer or what is what is your setup? I have drawers. Um, I have separate drawers for my panties separate drawers for my bras and then my socks That's the goal but sometimes my sock drawer will overfill The one and I have to have two Oh, wow, is this a picture of your drawer? Yes Nice, I like that. Okay. Well, they're they're all contained. They're all in one in one container, which is awesome They're they're in one drawer. That's kudos So it's easy for uh panties to be all over and socks and and underwear and stuff like that For for today's exercise and I I should start out by saying this If you have socks that are in the washing machine right now or the dryer those don't count We're not going to get rid of those because obviously you're wearing those right now So if you're thinking of getting rid of some don't get rid of the ones that are in the wash right now Those are those are the go-to version, right? We all have the go-to version and we've got six eight ten pair of panties And then it goes through the wash and then when they come out We recycle those and we wear those again and again, right? Those are like the go-to socks and panties So obviously they must be working for a reason. Otherwise, they wouldn't be the go-tos, right? Mm-hmm Yeah, and that that does make a lot of sense I I question why I keep some of the other things that I have because I do have favorites I have ones that I always choose But for some reason it causes me anxiety like watching you on that video put your socks away And I don't know why but I just started feeling anxious like what she's going to get rid of these socks and she needs them And I know you don't so I don't know what causes that but Well, you know, it's interesting that you bring that up because what what I noticed was I had and this is my bin of socks now and I have a lot more than I did That when I got rid of the socks because I bought the new socks that that And somebody in our comment said that they shop at Costco I shop in bulk as well So I bought a big pack of socks and they were so comfortable, but I didn't quite have enough for a whole week So I bought a second set so that then I would have enough for the you know If I was working out in the yard or I went running or whatever that I would have enough for work and for every day without You know, so I could go a whole week without doing laundry So this is my sock bin right now, but it was packed to the brim full And one of the things that we really encourage When we do this program and we've done this for years with all of our clients I've got hundreds of clients that have these same exact bins And they've got the same exact system So like you Heather instead of having their their socks and their panties in a drawer What they have it in is a clear plastic bin and the clear plastic bin I really recommend this for this reason. These are They have an airtight lid not an airtight lid. There's actually air can get in But it's a it's a covered lid so that no dust gets into your your socks or whatever So it would serve the same purpose as your drawer being closed The other thing I like about this is with the ridge here It allows you to stack the bins on top of each other So if people don't have a dresser or a drawer These bins stack on top of each other. The really cool thing is like this week We had lots of our clients from the past whose kids went off to school And so their kids go into college They literally pick up the bins and are like here's your underwear. Here's your socks And they just hold them off the shelf and they sent them to to school with their kids Another thing that's really cool is a lot of people don't have adequate closet space in their homes And so those that do shop at Costco and I'm not sure who it is I'm high blue start Lisa Rob Shelly chaselin piece. I'm so glad you guys have joined us. That's so it's so good to see you guys here Um, if you do shop at Costco, they sell those great big five shelf wire shelves it's shelving and the the Shelves themselves are probably about I want to say 18 inches deep. Maybe it's only 12 inches But it's it's far enough that the bin slides right in there and it contains the entire bin So people that don't have shelves are people that don't have closets What we've done is we've hooked up one of those shelves like against the side of a wall And we've just used stackable bins and with the see-through bins you can see it at glance how much stuff you have And so if you're getting below, you know, oh, it's time to do laundry So it's just kind of a visual cue another thing that's really cool about it Is the process that you saw in the video and this is one of the reasons I showed you guys the video is When I saw the stuff the stuff Um, oh, I didn't bring the white ones with me. These are my panties. Okay And so it's not it's not so full as it could be stuff to the top, right? Right. So this is it But what happens is at one time it was stuff to the top because again when I started searching back Why do I have so much stuff what I discovered was that growing up? We had a similar system and I'm one of six sisters So the panty bin was all six sisters and our our butts were all about the same size growing up So they come through the wash they go in there. You need clean panties You grab a pair of panties a clean pair of socks, whatever you grab it and you go, right? They were like community underwear community socks and in a large family you do stuff like that It's just how it is But what's interesting about that was when I moved out on my own I had recreated that Because that was the system that was my norm And so I was realizing I've got way way way too much of this stuff and I'm not I'm not using it, right? I was washing it once a week I was recycling the same 10 12 15 pair and I had a whole bunch of extras And so as I started paring down What happened was and in the video you saw how I put everything in a bag with no emotion Let's just count where it's accounting at this point As I counted and I took them out of circulation I kept them for 30 days And I put them on the back of the door In the event that I started having like remorse like I gave these away and I didn't mean to and I'm Remorsing that I had these expensive running socks or expensive work socks or whatever. They weren't expensive, but What do I need them back? I could always go to the back of the door and go I might again, right? I had that choice But the reason and the purpose of having an empty bin in front of me on the shelf Was this became the new norm every time I would go to get underwear or socks I was looking at a lesser volume I was looking through the see-through bin at a lesser volume And so having that lesser volume that became my new norm Well at the end of the 30 days and it's time to make a decision Do I really need that underwear and socks that I had removed and the answer is no I never missed it because I wasn't using it anyway And so can I give it away? Can I send it to a homeless shelter? Can I toss it? Can I whatever and anything that was good that could be washed and reused sure that's fine If it was maybe not in good condition though Certainly went in the trash because you're not going to give away socks with holes in them or anything But it really made me start looking at what is my new norm and what do I need? Right. What do I need in my life for me to be comfortable? Which kind of leads me to my next question. I have to ask this question Heather Are the socks that you are are they all like super comfortable? No I have like my five pairs that are comfortable and they're they're the ones that I wash and wear and thinking about Doing that thinking about putting it all into a bag does cause me some anxiety But the fact that you're keeping it for a month That I could do that because I see that I see it Well, I haven't used that it but if I have them all together if you ask me I'm going to say I use them all Uh-huh, but I don't Where does that anxiety come from? I don't know. I don't know. It's just I I don't know. I'm not sure. I mean I I don't do that with like very many things, but it seems like I mean Is it possibly that you spend a lot of money for them? And so it's the loss of I made an investment. I don't want to lose the investment No, it's not that it's the fear of Of getting rid of it and then being inconvenienced or uncomfortable because I needed it It's just that fear, but I Definitely could get behind putting it away for 30 days when you've said that it just I can do that I can put it away and I can see that I don't need it and the clear bins I never considered that because I had a drawer, but that is so much nicer and and just Put together then me pulling a drawer out and everything falling around and and not fitting I can if you have it if you have a drawer, that's ideal I mean, that's awesome that you have the the furniture to take stuff away But my question then is the next question Is there anyone else in your family that you share the the clothes with like we did with I did with my sisters Where it was that community clothes and you guys shared amongst each other With my socks, yes I put all I try to put all of our socks in my daughter's room because she's a teen and She wears them more than I do, but we're the same size So I did do that, but then there's another picture of her drawer. It's just as bad So it's not like getting it out of my room helped. It just made her drawer fuller So but then my question is does the fear then come from knowing that this is not just my socks and underwear But I'm sharing with my daughter and so if I get rid of stuff She's not going to have enough is it is it possible that that's the concern Definitely. It's definitely possible. I didn't Think of it that way, but I mean that could definitely be why I think it's just I feel like when I'm getting rid of something I might need it and I might like I might have a pair of socks that Were perfect for that outfit but only for that one outfit and I never wear the outfit so I can definitely I am definitely going to do the packing it away and then saying hey You don't need this. You haven't used it and I feel good about that. I think I could do that Well, you bring up something really interesting and I have a true confession that comes straight out of the 80s I just dated myself In the 80s, it was really cool Like we rolled the colors of our shirts up and we wore our shirts around like this, you know We were like matching socks. We called them flavored socks at home Where we would layer our socks so that it would have like different colors And then we would have like different layers of earrings and we would roll up our shirt sleeves and have like another shirt With the same color underneath it. So we were doing like layers that had I don't always like this preppy look or whatever It was you know, forgive me. I I went through the 80s and there you go But um, if you guys went through the 80s if there's anybody that went through the 80s that did this write 80s in the comments I'm I'm not I know I'm not alone. But anyway, um What was interesting about that particular time was um, I discovered that for myself I I did have lots of extras that I didn't need and it was just for fashion only And then as I moved out into the the world of cleaning I became very conscientious I'm not going to be wearing, you know Hot pink socks layered with hot purple socks layered with hot yellow socks and then a layer of blue I'm not I'm not going to be doing that and I guess that created the cushions That I that I crave today with the comfortable socks But I will share this with you and these are the socks that I that I have today and they are eerily black They're all black. They're all the same color. It's super boring. They're all the same color But the cool thing is I wear these for the majority of everywhere I go And so if I'm wearing jeans, I got black socks underneath them if I'm wearing my work pants I got black socks underneath them if I'm uh, just kicking around and maybe I have a pair of shorts Maybe I have a little tiny socks, but they're also black and they fit inside my shoes So it's it's the same color code So I'm not now back in the 80s where I'm trying to match every outfit with a new color pair of socks Or in the 80s we did multiple pairs of colored socks with an outfit, right? And so, um, we you might be able to consolidate just by switching colors and choosing a color that that matches most of your wardrobe That is such a good idea because I am, you know, not that I'm gonna age myself But I am older and I see that I typically wear wider black socks even though I have All of these, you know, cute colorful character. So I don't typically wear those anymore And if I had like all black I could say, hey, well this black is looking very worn. It has a hole in it I can get rid of that. I have all these other black ones Whereas with me it's I only have that one pair of character socks. I shouldn't get rid of it So that is a great idea. I think Getting all the same color would be perfect for me Awesome. Um, well, we have a Rita who's just joined us. I'm gonna drag Rita on here. Hello again, Rita. How are you today? Hi, I'm great. Angela. How are you? I'm great. Um, so I my question is about your socks. Tell us about your socks. What have you got going on? so I um Also have a sock drawer just like Heather and I throw all my socks in there But I do take the time to match my pairs But my big problem is also the one-sided sock thing Where I have and I have no idea where these socks went But I have so many socks where I just have one half of the pair And I don't want to get rid of them because I always think maybe in the next load the other half will show up And On occasion I just like I don't really keep track Like of what how long I've had these one-sided socks Honestly, it's just like the pile keeps growing and growing And they're kind of floating around in the soft drawer mixed in with all the matched socks And I also as I've gone older have found I tend to go for black socks And I have a lot of socks that are like red or pink or white and I don't wear them anymore Because they don't match my sneakers or I don't like the color showing Um, but I just never have gotten rid of them Do you have any socks with holes in them or are they all like brand new cool looking socks? Uh, I actually don't have socks with holes in them. I am pretty good about getting rid of those Like as soon as I see like It doesn't even have to have a hole and it's like worn down. I'll just toss it Um, but I I the reason I don't have many socks with holes is because I'm not really wearing those colorful socks And so there's just no wear and tear on them Um, that's a good point If you're wearing sandals or you're wearing different kinds of shoes or you're not You know, if you're if your wardrobe doesn't require socks so much Then there's not as much of an issue But there's also an issue to collect like what Heather was saying before wear just in case How many of you have socks that are just in case? And I mean I have a pair of socks that I wear when I'm out in the garden And I guess those are my just in case socks because I can I can wear socks that are outside that I know are gonna Get grass clippings and it's gonna get like dried leaves and stuff on there The one I come out I should I should toss them and I don't I kind of like shake them out and Beat them against the carpet and hope that all the little things that have collected on But I don't I don't want to mix that with my regular socks So again that I'm I'm done the cross-contamination thing like don't mix those in with my regular socks because They're still icky and they got little scratchy things in them when I go to wear them again because They never quite came out of the socks, you know so Uh socks are interesting though Do you have any socks that when you wear them they like scooch down into your shoe and you have to stop and keep pulling them up? Uh, oh Heather you do Yes, my favorite winter boots I have to have thicker socks with them But a lot of times the thicker the sock is the looser it is and as I'm walking through the store It bunches down at the bottom of my boot and it's so uncomfortable Yet I still keep them and still wear them because those are my boot socks I I don't know why but yes, I do So I think it's the wool socks because they don't hug your foot like the performance socks And they're just they're kind they're very warm But it's almost like a layer of lining And so then they get stuck in your sock and yeah, they do they kind of scooch down and Yikes So my rule is if I if I'm wearing a pair of socks and they're they scooch down and I have to keep babysitting them I hate babysitting socks than underwear. It's like a personal pet peeve of mine I have the same pet peeve if I put like on a shirt and it has a tag in the back And like every time I move it scratches me and yet for some reason we keep those clothes. I don't know why But so if it scratches me If it's uncomfortable if I'm tugging on it if I'm pulling on it If I have to keep pulling up the the scoochy part that fell into my shoe when I take it off I don't know why I always do this. I like wear it till the end of the day I don't go in and change you go. Well, that was a bad experience I still work the whole day like I'm gonna get the the last little bit of use out of them I think I'm like you Heather and then When I take them off I do I throw them inside the trash because I know that this is just a bad pair of socks And nobody's gonna have a good experience with these because you know, I got like normal feet and if I'm not having a good experience No, no one's going to don't pass on the this the socks that don't stay up Just just throw them away and get rid of them And so I do have that policy and I give myself permission whether it's panties or socks or a bra or whatever If I'm wearing it and it's causing discomfort if it's not comfortable It goes in the trash at the end of the day So that brings us to the next question, which is our panties. Let's talk about panties for a minute undies Underwear, what's the proper term Rita? What's the proper term for what I'm saying? Uh, I use underwear and panties interchangeably honestly. I think those people there Okay, so you guys know what we're talking about, right? Um, I did bring my panties Not so that you guys could see my panties, but I have this is this is gonna take me back to the moment where Heather said She has what did you call them special occasion? underwear So I have I have uh, well and they just fell on top I have a muted color and I have black So they're not decorative or anything, but the work panties are the the regular color and then like special occasion Okay, well, I like this because now I have choices, right? I have two colors. This is awesome and my bras are the same I have a nude which is the neutral color and I have the black Okay, so for all day every day during the work, which is just my regular uniform I don't want fancy lazy Panties that are gonna keep riding up my heiny that I gotta like tug on and then like I go to bend over and it gives me a wedgie That's like the scratchy tag, right? Because if I if I'm working I don't want to be focused on me I want to be focused on the job that I'm doing and so a lot of what I do There's a lot of movement in my day And so I have to ask the question are the are the panties that you wear And this is a collective question nobody has to answer the specific question if you don't want but Think about this are the panties that you wear. Do they make you forget that you're wearing them? Because if they're so tight that you're like, oh, wow, I'm really uncomfortable and you're like doing the little hot dance You know to kind of like readjust the I'm not gonna like dig my Panty in public, but I'm gonna kind of like hop and hope that it kind of like You know readjust itself. It's the wrong pair panties, right? And so Um, if we have panties like that I'm gonna give us permission to reassign them to either the donation bin or the the garbage bin or whatever I'm gonna go back to that question in a perfect world if money was no object And you wanted to be the best version of yourself. What kind of panties would you wear? What would they look like? How what shape would they be? Are you wearing like shapeless panties that have lost the elastic and the legs are all worn out And you put on a pair of pants and like half of them rides up and the other half stays where they're supposed to stay That's not a good user experience, right? Life is way too short to be wearing bad panties So I just want for us to think for a second that there are options And I don't know why we spend a lot of money on a lot of things that make us beautiful Our face makeup and our jewelry And the things that we do to our hair and the hairdos and the hair decorations and we paint our nails We go to the nail salon and we we do really expensive things that upgrade our image But then on the inside we're wearing shapeless panties and you know things that are making us feel uncomfortable and you know A wedgie, you know unnecessarily stuff like that Um, I I met a girl that I worked with and she gave me some really interesting information And I want to pass it along to you because I'd never thought of it that way before She said oh, no I spend a lot of money on my underwear and I have a really nice sexy lacy bras and panties that match And she said I'm a nurse during the day and I wear shapeless scrubs all day every day And my days are really really stressful. At least I want to know that whatever this is happening up here There is a party going on underneath this I was like, oh, that's really a great way to look at that and she said it doesn't matter where I am in my day I feel I feel sexy and I feel fantastic because if you took off the the the mask that I'm wearing She said I I'm smoking hot. I was like, okay, good for you. That's right on that's awesome and I love that philosophy because To her that was that was the gift that she gave herself. I want to be comfortable. I want to feel sexy I want to feel beautiful even though I got to put on these shapeless scrubs And I've got to go help people that don't appreciate my looks kind of a thing, right? So the question is in a perfect world What what do your panties look like and do you have any panties that have holes in them? And so I want to think about that I I actually don't have panties that have holes in them. Oh good. There's a reason there's a reason my grandmother Growing up She had very little rules or very little things that she said you should do but one of the things she always said is if you get into an accident or a rag and and People are going to see your underwear. Are you going to be embarrassed by that? And so that's why I don't have holy ones But I do have my my three or four that I'm like. Oh, thank goodness. Those are queen. Those are my favorite because they're so comfortable Why don't I just buy some more of those and get rid of the uncomfortable ones? I don't know I don't I've never really thought about it. Well, and that's a good question I think there's a particular style that we kind of gravitate towards definitely If you're like me, you've probably tried every style of panty on the market looking for the perfect one or the perfect fit And you've probably tried all the different fabrics as well. There's cotton. There's lace. There's uh, it's almost like a stretch fabric or a performance fabric There's like a lacra that's kind of like swimming suit material or whatever There are a lot of different types and different fabrics and different styles of panties And I think the thing that's really important is are you did you land on a set of panties that you just love? That when you wear them, you're like, yes, I feel fantastic And then once you're wearing them you forgot that you have them on and I think that's the key Did you forget that you're wearing them because if you have the proper underwear and you're moving around all day Or even if you're sitting at a desk all day If you're wearing underwear that you forgot you're wearing good for you It's it means it's super comfortable and it's serving its purpose, right? Yeah So that's that's my can we all agree on that? Do we all agree on comfortable underwear? Yeah So what that means is if you have Underwear that's not comfortable that doesn't meet that criteria It's okay to put it in a bag and put it on the back of the door and hang on to it for 30 days And then at the end of the 30 days ask the question. Did I wear it? Did I miss it? Is it okay if I let it go? And if the answer is yes, then let go of that in your life because what you might find Is like for the socks when I started getting rid of socks it opened up the door Oh my goodness. I need new socks because my the ones that I hung on to then wore out They were never very good socks in the beginning and I guess had so many of them I was rotating on a regular basis But then it I started asking new questions What what would the socks look like if I was going to go invest in a new set of socks? And it was a different series of questions And I ended up with a whole different series of socks and I love I love the socks I'm wearing now I don't I don't mean to to say this like Angela's getting all excited about our socks. I am every single day is like me walking on Christmas. It is it is Happiness every single day and I was happy with the old socks. So imagine my joy now, right? And like I said in the video, you know, we're told get rid of stuff that doesn't spark joy All my socks sparked joy. I was already happy with those socks I was not on a crusade to go find new socks But by getting rid of some it opened the door For me to ask different questions by asking different questions. I had different options Oh, just love that. Okay on to our Next I've got so many questions you guys. This is awesome. Blue star says My briefs are all sorted done organized looks so good in the drawer and on my butt for that matter You go blue star looking good on the butt. Awesome seven basic pairs of basic black white and new Yes, I love it. Then there's a section of colored ones too. All right, that sounds like an awesome Arrangement of panties. Okay. That's that's awesome. That just Good for you. I love I love stories like this. I love people that have given it a conscious thought They didn't just buy some panties and then they wore them once and they're like, no Those didn't work out very well and they threw them in a drawer never wore them again Yet they still own them, right? I want us to make choices about the stuff that we have And Heather if you are in a situation where it gives you anxiety Get to the root of that. Yeah, that was your anxiety It wasn't until I started asking why do I have so many and here's the sad part. I have space I have a monster sized house. I've got plenty of space for all my panties I could have had 10 bins if I wanted and I would still have space 10 bins of socks But why did I have so many and it wasn't until I started asking different questions that I came up with different answers I came up with That I did that because my mom did that Oh, yeah, I had six sisters that were sharing this amount of socks And now my six sisters have their own bins in their own houses And they're probably the same like we probably did what was what was you know, what was our upbringing But um, I didn't I didn't need that many and when I pared down I haven't missed not having them, right? All right, do you have panties with broken or rotting elastic elastic? um If If you have panties that are not serving you give yourself permission to let go of them You deserve you deserve good panties. I don't know if anybody ever gave you guys permission You guys deserve good panties. Um, you deserve also comfortable bras. Can we talk for a second about bras? This is not a topic that and forgive forgive any of our friends that think this is like an off taboo topic, but Um, if you're a woman or maybe you're a guy, I don't know who wears bras But um, it's it's common underwear everybody has it if you go to work every day Probably you're going to wear a bra And so then the question is is the bra that you're wearing doesn't fit the task that you're doing And I have to ask that question because there are a lot of people wearing the wrong bra for the activity that they're doing And I say this coming from a house cleaners perspective We're a house cleaner and we're we're in a uniform But we're also doing very movement athletic type of things Do you have a bra that supports your back neck shoulders and your boobs? Or are you just wearing something that's fancy that's pretty and it just creates extra cleavage if you bend over Right, so what is the purpose for the bra that you're wearing and does it support the tasks that you're doing? That's the question and you have to answer that question so that it it matches what you're wearing, right? In house cleaning if you are wearing a bra, for example And the straps are too tight and they're cutting into your shoulders That goes back to the scratchy tag where you're like always uncomfortable and you're trying to make adjustments And now it's pinching on your neck and your shoulders when you should be focused on doing your job at hand, right? And so I want us to think is there a time maybe even if you're cleaning houses Maybe a sports bra is more appropriate than a lacy bra, for example. Does that make sense? So there are different types of bras for different types of things And so do you have lots and lots of bras in your house? Again, some that you may not wear or have you narrowed it down to I do six different types of Activities in my lifestyle and I have the six different types of bras that support that I'm curious. Let me throw this out there. What do you guys think? I don't have necessarily a bunch of different types of bras because I typically do I don't necessarily go for like the super super lacy ones anyway, so I have a fairly, you know, just Gray colored bra, you know, whatever, but that's my thing I don't like to worry about whether or not I'm going to have to see patterns under my shirt or color So I am very concise with that But my thing is I had the worst time finding the bra that fit me I had no idea what I was doing. So I had 30 bras But none of them fit me because I didn't go through and and have someone measure me or whatever I needed to do to find that right bra, but they're new and I could squeeze into them or That might look good with this shirt, you know that kind of thing. So bras are yeah, they're hard Well, you know, it's interesting and you brought up a really good point because sometimes with the best of intentions We say, well, this is my size and then you buy a bra not realizing that it might It might even like if you don't try it on and somebody in the comments mentioned that they shop at Costco And so one day I was in Costco and there here's here's I'm telling on myself But I found this this series of bras and maybe they were on sale or something and I'm like, oh, that's my size I should try those out and so I bought them and they were super comfortable but The strap that goes from the the cup part over to the back where the elastic is It was cut in such a funny way that it created this weird Back fat thing that was like scooching up the back fat That every time I would like move my arm or like from the back Then it looked like I had these big rolls of back fat and I I don't really have a lot of back fat I'm probably sure I have some but it was just like scooching it up a certain way Like almost like I had boobs in the back and I'm like, wait a second. Do I have boobs in the front or in the back? But what's going on? This is awful And I it wasn't until I saw myself on camera like I was making a youtube video That I'm like, oh, that's so awful. Like why didn't anyone tell me and nobody told me like that looks really bad That's really horrible. We'll get a different bra, right? But it was just a wrong cut And so I had to make a decision Do I want to throw it away and like you I just spent good money for it So do I want to throw it away? Am I going to hang on to it? But I promised myself. I'm never going to wear this again Okay, well, that's that's pretty cut and dried if I'm never unaware again that goes straight in the trash Or it can go to the goodwill or the whatever I I think some of the places don't accept underwear So it depends on if your place does or if it's new or whatever, but I I got rid of it because I don't want it in circulation I don't want to wake up one day and I'm in a hurry and I'm it's in the dark And I'm getting dressed for the day and I'm like, oh, let me grab that bra And then I walk around all day with like back fat or boobs on the back Or your strap falling down Yeah Yeah, if it's not the right fit it's not the right fit Now, um, I do have I do have a bin also for my bras. And so this is the bin for my bras It looks eerily like the of the underwear Bin that we had and again, it's it's nude color and black and it's it's for this reason Again with the work all my underwear is the same and it's all made of performance fabrics And it's just simple. It doesn't have any underwire to it It's just very comfortable and then it has the proper stretch for the elastic That it's not tugging and then pulling on the shoulders And then if for some reason and I like to do this just it's my own personal preference But if for some reason You you you peak and you get to see part of this strap or something It's nude color and it's going to blend in and it's not going to be like, uh That looks weird or something. You know what I mean? And so just nude color for my underwear For work and then if I'm wearing something else and usually when I go out And this is because I've traveled for so many years If I travel for so many years and I wear black clothing when I travel and I have black underwear again It all blends in and it's easy to To have less up and then I can travel with less things and I can dress up every Outfit with either a scarf or a colored piece of jewelry or something And I'm I'm accessorizing with small colors Not the entire outfit that needs new shoes and new underwear and new clothes You see what I'm saying? Just try to be more conservative so that I have less And again, I I don't want you guys to get rid of stuff that you're using If you have stuff you are using please keep it But if you have a lot of extra stuff, this is a really great time to do this exercise Before christmas because all of your relatives are going to probably give you new socks and new underwear at christmas Definitely Am I the only one that gets socks and underwear at christmas? Everybody everybody gives me stuff like you need to be cute here. Have this cute. Whatever it is. I'm like, oh, I'm not that cute Thank you All right Do we have any other questions on the bras? I don't think so not for me, but I I know everyone every woman that I know Has the same fight with bras And you know like my mom for instance can be the exact same size as me But give me a bra and it just not fit me like it's just totally different You know so I am better. I'm I didn't even realize it until the show But I think it's it's socks that have me The most anxious that I need to really look at because I don't have many bras My panty jar could be you know taken down a notch, but not as not like the socks I have I have a sports bra collection And these are my sports bras and you guys will forgive me that it's not Pinterest worthy It's not in a decorative little box and they're all ruled up and whatever I don't live that way and I want to give you guys permission to not live that way either I love Pinterest. I love looking at the pictures and it is not practical for me at all and I don't care and I have to give myself permission to say I don't care whether my underwear is decorative They're not in a box in a closet that no one ever comes to see And so for me, I have priorities that are elsewhere and designing little areas for my underwear is not Even remotely on that priority list. It comes out of the wash goes right in the spin What I like about this bin is These are all my sports bras and I have a couple of odds and ends But this is my athletic gear and again it goes on the same set of shelves inside my closet So they're stackable and they're easy and they're all you know, just just Running bras and so every morning I go running So I need seven or eight of these which I have in my bin and I also have a couple of odds and ends This is a neck or ear warmer that I wear in the winter time And this leads us to our next topic as we segue out of bras and into gloves and hats and stuff like that Is what do you have that's also in your underwear drawer that you have either too many of or you Have them and you don't know why I actually wear these in the winter time. I put it around to my neck I put one around my neck and then I put one around up around my ears So that it keeps my ears. I don't know why but I hate my ears to get cold Like I'll get really grumpy if my ears get cold And so when I'm not running I want my ears to be nice and toasty warm It's kind of like all right. I can survive now. My ears are warm Um, and I wear I wear these little bandanas I roll them up and I tie them around my head like a sweatband so that I just tie it around my head and then tie them in the back So I have a lot of these little bandanas and I keep them also in my underwear bin But this is an underwear bin that Is just easy and it's manageable and separate from my other underwear not to be confused with a great big mosh pit of underwear That's my daily underwear and my special occasion underwear my nudes and my blacks And then all the bright happy colors are just the colors that I wear What I'm out and about you know working out or whatever and there's no special color I don't have a uniform or I don't wear like house cleaning blue when I work So it it works But do you have too many of those as well and for me This is my swimming suit and my running bras and then my little winter gear And so this is a really great bin for this like I say it's not cute When it comes out of the wash it goes right back in the bin the lid goes on it So it doesn't collect dust between uses and at any time For example, if I am out and about and this goes back to are we buying things we don't need I know right now that's been as full. It's not going to hold anything else And I have what I need and so I probably I mean like unless they wear out which they don't wear out that spandex athletic stuff it lasts forever And I probably had it forever. I probably had this stuff for 15 20 years But because I have enough of them they're in rotation And so I don't need to buy any new ones and so if I go into a store and there's a clearance rack And they have running bras already. I'm going to say no, I'm good. My bin is full, right? I don't have a place for anymore They're not going to go in the other bins and so my bin is already full. I'm good Which means I'm good on air bands and neck bands and bandanas and gloves I don't I don't need any more of that stuff at the bottom of this bin And this is my recycling process at the bottom of this bin Is my winter hat? I have a beanie hat and if it gets really really cold in there snow on the ground I will put a beanie hat on my head and then it will roll it up over my ears And I have a double layer on my ears to keep my ears nice and warm So it's a great big monster hat. In fact, it's so tall. It has like this like little cone thing on top It's like I'm a cone head That counts what I say they can just see you're looking adorable in that hat Yeah, in fact, um, it's really cool because um, it's navy I love I love the navy hat and there are times that like we've gone to customers houses And that's winter time and then they're like I'm sick. So they're like, oh no, don't come we're sick And but yet they have snow in their house. So I'm like, oh, hey I'll just put an extra layer of like thermal underwear on and I will I will shovel your snow And so I just work in layers and then like I wear my cone my cone beanie hat while I'm out there shoveling snow So that it keeps my head my head warm and I find this is really weird But I find that when I keep my neck warm in the winter time My whole body stays warm even if it's just my neck and in the summertime when we're cleaning people's houses And it's 100 degrees in their house or if they're elder people I don't know why but like the elder folks love to have their houses like 89 or 90 degrees And then you're cleaning and you're just like So hot, you know, like I'm I'm yeah yikes The thing that I've noticed is that if I keep my neck cool Then it regulates my body temperature. So cool in the in the summertime and warm in the winter and that's that's that's good for me So in the summertime, it's a wet a wet one of those They're actually a chamois that is used to wash the car those ones that you wet and then you squeeze them out And they're kind of like damp, but they're designed. They're designed as an auto chamois That's that's what it's for and I I roll them up I wet them I roll them up and I put them back in the container I put them in the freezer and then when I go to use them They're freezing cold and they're crisp and I wrap them around my neck like Like a necklace and then I put like a hair tie on the on the neck part And I can clean an entire house with not changing any clothes whatsoever Wearing the exact same uniform, but my neck is cool while I'm cleaning It makes a huge difference Yeah, my daughter used those for softball when they were out in the heat heat They would wrap those around their necks and stuff. So that makes sense Yeah And so if you have if you have a program where you know how much you have and I'm talking about socks panties bras Winter gloves and stuff like that when it comes to winter gloves. I have a couple pair. I actually have two pairs And again, I have a black Um Neck warmer. So that's my spare back neck warmer and I have two I've got the green one and the black one So I don't have lots of them But but that's it and these are my winter gloves. And so the winter gloves These are a lighter weight version And so if I'm not so cold it might be like in the the I don't know 40 degrees That's cold for me And if I go out and I go running and it's below about 60 then I just get me no I do not like being cold So if it's about 60 degrees or below, I'll probably wear my lightweight gloves And if it gets like 20 degrees outside 20 is I move to north carolina because I don't like the cold If it gets really really really cold These act as a cover for these so this would be the liner and then this would go on on top of it And so then I'm out there running and I got like my the michelin man, you know, with the really clubbed fingers And so that's my my setup, you know, so that I I have that Alrighty, um, I see a couple of questions that are coming in and I want to I want to get to these Uh pieces. I'm planning to sort the socks and underwear section shortly planning to line that storage section with scented drawer Like that's a great idea progress is so slow for a procrastinator though. Um, you know what? This is not a priority going through your underwear door is not a priority I promise there are more important things for everybody to be doing right now And so if you don't get to this for six weeks, no one's judging you. That's perfectly fine Um, I just want us to do it before the Christmas rush when you start getting gifts from family and friends And it's those fun slippers or socks or whatever and you you either don't have a rule for it Or you don't have a reason for it or you don't have room for it And so if you made choices now your family says what do you want for Christmas? I really want to pair these socks or I really want a pair of this or I want an amazon gift card Or I really want whatever it is so that you can go by your own, right? You deserve comfortable underwear comfortable underwear and socks that when you're wearing it you totally forget that you're wearing it That's my that's my thing Do we have any other questions here? I'm looking for Blue star says I have a thing for fingerless gloves But they're all cashmere and only in one color and they have their own storage box. I love that too I know that uh for lots of people who have neuropathy and their hands get freezing cold Those fingerless gloves that just warm your whole entire hand are awesome Because then you can still you know touch your phone and you can still touch things and and use your fingers Like if you're typing, but then your hands are warm. I think those are fantastic. Also, um Lots of people wear them to bed at night to keep their hands warm while they're sleeping And so there's there's a need for that as well um Jacqueline says purging ill-fitting or age-tattered elastic challenged panties is liberating I love the way that's phrased. That just sounded so eloquent. Let me read that again purging ill-fitting Or age-tattered elastic challenged panties is liberating. I don't know why that just made my day like That sounded really cool. Your derriere deserves comfy quality fabric You know a jacklyn good for you. You win the prize for having like the most eloquent speech of the day I love your derriere deserves comfy quality fabric. Yes, what jacklyn said What jacklyn said um So rita, do you have I know we talked to you several weeks ago that you were getting rid of some t-shirts and stuff is is Is your underwear socks everything? Is it all under control or was it just the t-shirts that you were kind of downscaling So I mainly downscaled the t-shirts I will say you just mentioned winter clothing And I also live in the south and got me feeling a little bad because I have a pretty big collection of like winter hats and scarves And it's really not cold enough where I live to be using all of them um It's just like I get like you mentioned I get presents every year where someone will buy me like a cute little beanie Or a cute scarf and I'm like that's so great and I'll wear it like once or twice right after they give it to me But then the next winter i'm like i'm not cold enough to wear this But they're just sitting in my closet and I haven't got rid of them I think that'd be a great thing to donate now that we're having that conversation Are you the one that was telling us a couple weeks ago and we got rid of coats That you had like a big parka that was like a purple parka with like fur or something around the the hood Yes, yep, that was me. Yep. Well, I did get rid of that one after we had that video I went you did my winter hats and scarves are all in different bin Whereas my coats are like hanging right in front of me to look at so it's easier to get rid of those because they were like front of mine So I I too got rid of I think six coats that day And as I got rid of them I had this little pang of and I guess what heather was feeling Of oh, no, I might regret giving these away And then I asked myself the question when is the last time you wore them? I was like, oh wait I never wore any of these so If I never wore any of them If I don't then I won't right it goes back to that rule if I don't work outside and and in Sub-zero degree weathers am I going to use this coat if I don't then I won't need it, right? If I don't work outside in severe weather I won't need this coat and I passed that test if I don't then I won't and I got rid of them I was like, you know what that it's time to let these go And so I got rid of them and I I haven't missed them since Um, it's not winter time yet. And so I I don't know that I was ever going to wear them But I know that I never did right. I never did wear them yet. So Onward onward and upward. All right. That is it for today Our time is up and I have really enjoyed hanging out with you guys today So we're going to continue the conversation you guys are uh, we're we're streaming here to facebook and also youtube And so both of those have places for comments If you have pictures that you want to upload that would be our hoarding world facebook group You don't have to be a hoarder to participate But we are welcoming these types of conversations So we can just start to think about things differently and change our relationship with stuff So that is it for today. Thank you guys for joining me heather and rita It's so good to see you guys and I loved having you here on stage with me So we'll do this again next week same time same place and that will be uh Thursday at 12 p.m. So until we meet again leave the world a cleaner place than when you found it