 Many thanks for being part of the breakfast this morning. We'll be joined by senior Advocate of Niger Mr. Paul Ananabar has on standby to look at the second conversation. It's good to have you join us this morning Thank you All right, and just before we get to you Let's quickly take a look at this federal High Court in Abuja has refused the governor of the central bank of Niger That's the CBN Godwin MF. Elise request to restrain the independent National Electro-Commission Inaq and the athony general of the Federation the AGF Abu Bakr Malami Preventing him from his presidential abetion the CBN governor on Monday told the court in a budget that he can run for the post of The president of the federal Republic of Nigeria without vacating his position as a CBN governor The CBN governor through his counsel Mike Osaka made told the court that section 84 subsection 12 of the electoral act as amended 2022 Does not affect him being a public servant and not a political appointee The court also in its ruling however Summoned Inaq and the athony general of the Federation to appear before it on the 12th to show Costs on why the status quo should not be granted to the CBN governor Like I mentioned earlier on we have a senior advocate of Niger Professor Paul and Ananda joining the conversation. Thank you. Once again for being part of the discuss this morning Thank you so so the question is Can the CBN governor run for the position or run for the presidency or position of the president in 2023 and still occupy his office Well every Nigerian By section 40 of the constitution has a fundamental right to run for offices General political party and all that that's a fundamental right But when you are a CBN governor You have been appointed by the president so the argument of a Public servant and all that I don't think it's a serious agreement. I don't think it should be The CBN governor was appointed he's an appointee of the president and that's section 84 to have a very recent law Yes, part of that it's been Interpreted upon by the courts But clearly it's not Something that in my mind section 30318 of the constitution Section 3171 she of the constitution which some of my colleagues are putting across and cure Um before even there is more about the law the CBN governor is Occupying a very sensitive position Away from the niceties of the law This is the man in charge of the monetary policy and regulation of the country And this and then you are saying that the CBN governor should actually Whether the law goes against it or not While is there we're running for election. So what happens to those who are is for the school opponents who require CBN approvals and all that and policies and implementation So he carries a lot of more, but it doesn't help the country For a serving CV and government to see be there a while is running for primaries His four ponies what happens to them like I said, so I do not think Take another point like I neck has an alliance with the CBN. That's where Sensitive I neck Documents and forms and processes are stored So all this while we have a city and go governor who may not have announced His intentions, but as we know we are in politics in So there are several issues given aside from the law but legally speaking He's an appointee of the president From the day it doesn't be the perfect Telling every day he has not chosen to Join the political free I should allow the sanctity of the office of the CBN governor to be intact so so he can take himself away and Go for politicking and if you look at the CBN at section 9 For him to even decide to Talk about politics in any form As serious as running for the presidency of this the the CBN board ought to give him a prover and In the suit he fired A few days ago the CBN board and the CBN it's not a party Now he goes after Goes after a general and I net saying that Which is very speculative a very speculative and suit that I don't think should have in fire So I don't think he should continue on this trajectory CBN governor should make up his mind He wants to run for presidency. It's in Nigeria and it's entitled to it. He should Excuse himself from the office of the CBN governor, but if he doesn't he wants to be a Civilian governor let him be he cannot be carrying an elephant and being taken on Using his leg to find where Some minor insects He has to take a decision in the best interest of this country. That's my position. Thank you All right But what's then is the essence of having the summon? The court asking that you have the attorney general of the Federation and I net come through On May the 12th. What's the essence of all of that if we understand that the law is very explicit I mean, it's very explicit that he is the CBN governor is partisan now When a suit is fired in court, they want to have his own procedures No matter how it gets me, the court will go through due process. That's why we go to court Now having fired that suit He wanted to obtain an order That's as you've been hearing an expert order is made and now that and there's confusion the judge Dispense justice the judge is my job the judge it is job properly The judge now says I will not give you an expert order behind Go and serve them this process let them come and then we will discuss whether you can While you are still holding the CBN office, you'll be using it The time you will use to go to Politics why does he give you where will you get who owns it? But there are a lot of things that has to be looked at before the court decides We have to say yes, you can or you cannot It is still in court So I went to what the court will say for what we are doing that I think the Syrian government needs to do a deep thinking Look at our economy Look at how much a dollar is Look at how much a pound is Now We are grappling with serious financial issues in this country. Do we actually have the luxury of civilian governor Going for politics When he was not in politics How did the economy fail? How did our currency policies gone that you now add a distraction of politics Let's also look at this You are a senior advocate of Nigeria What kind of democracy and electoral process have we been practicing? We are also being made to understand that sensitive electoral materials are in the custody of the central bank of Nigeria and then you also have a governor who is appointed by the president what sort of Democratic process and electoral process do we practice and what becomes of Nigeria para ventura You know, he makes it and then he becomes a flag bearer of a party and eventually becomes a candidate for the elections in 2023 Well, I Touched earlier. It is a tragedy. We have facing in the country It's going to put a lot of pressure on Inaik for the It will be difficult for Inaik to continue to work with CVN now In respect of all that's some of the things that Inaik would do with CVN In to ensure that election are free fair credible and acceptable Now it would with with the entrance of the second governor into this free Inaik who have to do rethink We have to restrategize That is an added load because you know what it is across the country all the sensitive documents Forms and process of CVN. What are they going to? What are they going to work with are they going to work with for my share banks? Are they going to build saves? Are we going to say? Oh, well, don't mind. They're just a CVN governor. If you go on is a serious position in CVN so It's a challenge Well, I think that there will be a solution and that solution will be for the CVN governor to make up his mind and in the interest of Petroticism and the generality of Nigerians to decide whether he wants to be a CVN governor or whether he wants to be a president All right, so just to put put differently to just rest this matter as it is For him to be justified to run. He just has to resign his position as a CVN governor, right? That's the position I've taken. I think that if he decides To be a CVN now look at the situation the CVN governor has sued the Prime Minister of the Federation The Attorney General of the Federation is the chief law officer of the Ferrari Republic of Nigeria So when you sue the Attorney General of the Federation, you will technically sue the Ferrari Republic of Nigeria Now this is a CVN governor of the Ferrari Republic of Nigeria Suing as we can say the Ferrari Republic of Nigeria Where is the trust and confidence as we move on? Those are the issues I will lead into then say We have had enough destruction in this country right off a lot of challenges The CVN governor should spray us this particular challenge now. All right We must say a very big thank you to you Professor Paul and an Abbas senior advocate of Nigeria for clearing the air to all those gray areas that we had on this particular issue Thank you once again Thank you All right. Merci you've heard from the senior advocate of Nigeria because really I when he was in the analysis The central bank of Nigeria is part of the federal government. He was appointed by the federal government He's actually seen the Attorney General of the Federation He's appointed by the president Yeah, so he's part of the federal government Of course And he's also seen the Attorney General of the Federation who also is part of government, federal government So like as if you you're suing your own family members So he brings us back to the point where we talk about the law, the constitution and the lacunas and the constitution Now it feels like the ruling class or the elite understands that there are a lot of lacuna So a lot of persons take advantage of this loophole Let's not forget that when you approach the court of the interpretation despite whatever it is you probably might just have an Interpretation so it's another thing to have it being stated critically But as long as you approach the court the court would deal with it But should we get to a point where we make express law or very Specific with some of this consent because it's a conflict of interest as a matter of fact in law You cannot be a person of interest in your own case So the situation where you have the CBNB in a custodian of sensitive materials electoral materials How have we been operating first for an electoral process? 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