 You're welcome back to the breakfast on plus TV Africa and next conversation is about E-hailing cab drivers who are protesting today against the right hailing companies They points to increases in the price of fuel Increases in the price of vehicle spare parts and food as their reasons They're demanded an increase in fares being charged by the operators Some of them are even threatening to go and strike if their demands are not met and joining us this morning to discuss this is a representative of Moving train pilot association Damilary Baloo good morning, mr. Baloo Okay, I want to hear I want to hear from the horse's mouth regarding your agitations Concerning, you know the cost of fares for you know Uber boat and all that e-hailing services. What really is your concern? Uber and Boots were charging less the first were higher and the commission was actually lower So I remember my friend either one friend was a 65-year-old who buy was charging 20% and both was charging 15% But at the time they increase their commissions the That's the reduced the first which actually told them came down or took down on the vehicle to join us The minimum of the car we used on this platform is actually 6 million is not 2.3 2.4 million 3 instead of 1.7 and 1.5 the difference is now about 700,000 I mean like the cost of spare parts as actually skyrocket to We should be talking about for Is actually on the high side I Hold on I'm trying to understand when you say to keep reducing the fares. What exactly does that mean? You mentioned 20% earlier. What currently is a woman, you know Demanding of their drivers. Okay, good About takes 25% and boot takes 20% no So 20% of yours of every Ride that you you may have a trip. Yes, yes, yes, exactly Okay, so so explain to us why explain to us why this is too much It is it is too much sir. You have to know it is too much The reason why it is too much is this then imagine you take it a trip off Okay, let me let me put it on. Sorry. Let me break it down this way. We take a trip from Yeah, no pagea so you catch a right now is not going to cost more than 1003 from that 1003 you need to deduct your data That's money for subscription your data with charge card because never wait to get code You really want to call them if I let you call they even tell you Why just calling me now? You as a business man. You just need to do it You can say oh, but I'm sorry. It's not exactly is a location. You remove data. You remove a chart card. You remove Four at the end of the day from that same one thousand three hundred Over our boat will deduct 20 or 25% now what is left? Don't forget. There's still any cost of the car Where I'm tear is telling on the car so all this put together at the end of the day Why you make 20,000 and you remove 20% or 25% from the 20,000 you deduct data Feeding blah blah blah at the end of the day what you will have left to be nothing It's just it only look at no I do that forget some most of these drivers Let me say 95% of drivers are that car owners. Yes This car's actually a rent a renter or I purchase so these are the these are the problems So by the time you come up with the money for your For the partner that's the investor at the end of the day will be left with you My not be more than six thousand seven thousand That is for for a week or audit No for a week for a week So what most of the people What most of us are actually doing is they don't just want to stay are we doing? We have no choice because one thing and one of the things we are clamoring on on Twitter However, because we used to have a meeting with the state government. We don't have a commissioner This pattern with the damn government The past government Governor you remember the we used to have meetings with these government secretaries and the commissioner the damn Let's not say on to you the president administration We are not opportunity to meet with the commissioner We have sat twice with the parents secretary, but due to coven I think we have got at the opportunity to go back to the ministry and see today They know what we're feeling. They don't apply it. What issue is actually pinning? We have two of them all these things only the government can actually help us Because the government intervention can only do one thing Help us to regulate If the government can regulate we are good Okay, I wanted to draw your attention to to to a concern because most Nigerians would actually I said most Nigerians would actually argue that in fact E-hailing, you know cabs are even overpriced Most people will argue and say when you take a boss from you know better to Kedah like you mentioned you get you get Charge about 100 era a maximum of 200 Naira But when you're taking both your pain so much, you know up to at least 1003 like you've said so lots of people didn't argue that this is even too expensive So why would you be clamoring for this to be increased? Especially during times of surge when that one three can become as much as four thousand Naira I mean really what would you respond to respond to that? Okay He only is a luxury service It is not the normal yellow taxes yellow passes. They are so many factors surrounding them He only is the Is the new hera, I don't know what globally is it technology a Technology company the old world is actually moving around technology and that is what he only does all about Noxious right. It is not meant for everybody. Let me put it away. Yes. If you cannot afford it You look for an alternative. Yes. I mean why do not forget that there's something for sure You can actually share rights and not just actually comfortable. I have had Cases whereby at the end of every of the trip a rider that's a passenger. He tries to tell you So we've been in this traffic for two hours, and it's just 1004 you feel like that's it with a smile and the rest in case we give you 4,000 And the person might even end up giving you 3,000 because the person knows that this is not fair So now if passengers are actually company that yes, I can get you a report to Georgia for 200 and on the app I can do that for one thing. There is a huge difference. It comes with comfort All right, it comes with you a city comfortably at the back of the seat receiving ACA conditional and you are certain that you can actually relax and I don't know how to put it, but it is just a comfortable ride That I want you to you know be clear on what you want Are you wanting an increment in the fares or you want a reduction in the percentage that uber or bolt is taking Reduction in fuel prices as well Most of the things we are agitated for is what they call Increase in first That first but we understand I do as economy Increase in friends is going to actually affect everybody because we know it's not easy. So if they can reduce their commission Down to 15% or 12% is going to go a long way. It means more money Drivers can actually save more money Then we should have a call a flat rate. For example, sometimes when you take a trip, but you end up trip You are going to see two hundred and fifteen era You decide That is almost as when you pick a ride with the driver when you take it out with the driver You find them not smiling. You want to be wearing this funny face. You'll be wondering Why is this man angry? No, that man had just finished a ride of 250 in traffic for like 45 minutes So if you can have it this way, it means that the middle of the enemy right off Even if you are going from here to from you catch a hundred bridge to Airport to tell the best of you be seven hundred Okay, you can have it this way is going to stop people down quest from a street to to the second street Well, you can take a cutter for 15 error. I need to get clarity from you regarding the strike Has the strike actually begun today? Can you clarify to me that all across Nigeria? You So much On the daily basis that I'm not in line with the associational union Why is this most of them do not know they just come on board They take a car and they start work. So until they meet any driver or a particular driver that will tell them, okay We actually have an online community Where you can engage with leaders who time us in the job people pioneers that are hot that has really just is 2015 since the time of red card that we've been On this very struggle. So now When we happen is at the at the period they get to meet such a person they will be introduced to us They will check their drivers dashboard the dashboard then bring them on board from there on they would understand So we still have thousands. This is an industry of over 15,000 You're saying every every driver currently is in your association And so there still will be drivers working even what while you you are supposedly on strike Yes, those drivers that are working and not they don't even know about any, you know, not just shut down me Yeah, but do you think you're do you think a strike would be you know enough to send a message to The companies now Uba or bolt. Yes, of course Of course already yesterday evening both I don't just sent out a message. The message is talking about increase in first security And several other things. So we knew the first it already We can feel it because already yesterday over 2005 The offline some people actually started this in the store like me. I've been offline season Friday I've not gone online. So if we're talking about this yesterday evening when they knew what was going to happen today They need to entice drivers to come out today to the center thing messages. They're talking about incrementing first from 10% That's gonna be strenuous for Nigerians I'm not sure if Nigerians would be happy with you know with that, you know, but hopefully there would be Some compromise somehow somewhere we'll get information of better clarity on that I was going to ask you Balogu I you know, I have friends who you know are in this business, you know using E-hailing services to survive. So I know that lots of you have concerns concerning welfare and security I personally know Uber drivers who have been attacked people who you know, you have dangerous people Enter their rides and the critics have been a passenger attack them You know, some of them end up in the hospital. Some of them even die So is this part of your agitation for better welfare from you know, these companies Yes Mr. Eli, right? Okay. Yeah, it's a thing Over the years we have had several drivers that has been killed because of the struggle in your duties We have had one on a code bridge that was about three of them from the code bridge our cost Then I withdrew from the bridge downwards Meanwhile, they are not true. Well, we engage people on boats. No, sorry boats. The three of them were actually boats Boots never give a response. He said he gave us an automated response as usual on Twitter Well, we send them a message to do respond It is the same automated message that they will send to you. No condolence visit was paid to this to the families of the victims No Compensation was given to the families of the victims. Even if you are not going to compensate Why don't you just show just a show of compassion visit to their family? Yes, we are with you is actually working on a platform. You understand, but they don't do these things They do not I would have done that was true from the bridge initially when the construction was still ongoing They train all the way from what because they want to collect his address for the truth on the bridge He was on three points. Oh, I cannot count on any drivers. We've had to bear bridge. Okay. All right All right, Mr. Ballard because of you know, then the strategy of duty So, Mr. Ballogu, thank you very much I think this is this is how far we can we can go this conversation and definitely we would You know aim to bring you back. Let's see how this goes if you know, these healing companies are doing something You know to basically increase the fairs as you're demanding Yes That's profiling, please Every every oh actually writers profiling sounds sounds like a good good point. Yes, thank you very much. Thanks again A lot of people, you know, also need better security, you know, I'm mostly worried about how This would affect Nigerians who use these services not everybody wants to go to get on a bus or BRT or more So it's gonna be more All right Financial strainer fantastic. All right. So earlier today, we put out a poll on Twitter Asking Nigerians should the Minister of Communications and digital economy is a Pantami resign was saying that there are clips of him preaching Messages that are sympathetic to terrorists Pantami says he preached those messages when he was a young cleric and The poll there you can vote. Yes. No undecided as a stands now The poll is at 71% of people saying yes, he's a Pantami should resign 29% of people say no and 0% saying they're undecided So let's know what you think about this head on to our Twitter page at plus TV Africa vote and let your voice be heard It's the breakfast on plus TV Africa. 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