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First name dirt Last name beats There beats around here man, man, um, I just appreciate you having me out here, man You know, it's a really dope platform You've had your mom starts to the people on you and just for me to have the opportunity even since Sitting the chair to some of these other people have sat in his honor to me, man So I appreciate you up having me out here, brother. See how that boy come through genuinely like that Yeah, he's been raised right. It's all about the energy. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate y'all have me on the show Really low I appreciate y'all have me on the show. I'm talking about yeah, yeah Okay, so so originally my story starts Dirt so originally people start calling me dirt because I was the color of soil, but I made it Were you and they were doing that to you till I was about 13? See so Start off calling you that I saw about 13 about 13 say to call me soil then didn't hurt Then I'm like dirt and then uh, you know, I'm a self-produced artist So I started off rapping first. So I changed it to dope innovative rap techniques. So that's actually what dirt stands for And so I like that and so for me the meaning is a little bit. It's a little bit deeper for me because Dirt you can walk on it. You can step on it people spit on it You know, but you really cannot breathe without dirt nothing for the trees going You know, you build everything your foundation is on dirt, you know So, you know, it's one of those deals where like, you know, you can spin on me talk about me all of that I'm just gonna show love and keep it moving. You know, I'm just gonna show love and keep it moving Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I hear all that. Yeah, but what about the beach? But for you to say beach, you know, that means you you producing beats, right? Yeah, yeah, so what music so basically like I said self-produced artists Okay, so I've been making my own beats man for about 15 17 years Yeah, most and I've had a couple couple little things I think I had a single that peaked number four on billboard called Kool-Aid Okay Kool-Aid with a JT money in this little kid named Bill base. This is back in like oh six I wrote it with this dude named Jacob casher. Okay, he right for cash money He's a white kid from Virginia Beach, and okay, you know, I was just I was living in Miami So I grew I'm originally from Texas, but then I moved to Miami. I mean I moved to Virginia Beach Grew up at a home. I grew up. I graduated school from the same Salem, which is same school as the Neptune's in the clips Okay, and then I moved to Miami with $40 in a dream and then I moved back here and it's pretty much Yeah, so like I met for real I was on Star Trek Yeah Play clothes, you know, I'm mad. I'm mad. You're racing with clothes. You mess with me. I've been here 15 years, man Oh, yeah, for sure. I play no games when it comes fire. I need to get something. I mean listen, man I ain't playing no games when we come down to the clothes. I know everybody when it comes to the clothes now I didn't start off in pocket. I start off, you know flipping clothes. So yeah, yeah But uh, you you was hanging out with Pharrell that nigga beast. You know, we went to that store in New York What was that store? Yeah, he got What's name is clothing line Millionaire club we went in there and he got some Puma's in the back man That nigga he weren't no for real. I so I met Pharrell one I met him I met him once when I was 18 years old and it was crazy because This was just when he was actually starting to blow up. It's like my grind had took and we was at ODU And bro, his presence was just like it's like he was Like he was happy to meet me. Like, you know, it was crazy You're Pharrell, you know, I mean, he's dope. He got a real dope presence. Yeah dope presence for real I think that's I think that's something else and that's why he keeps going You know, it's a lot of dudes man that be want to be they get famous too fast I've been telling these niggas on this podcast don't get famous too damn fast You move in too fast, you know your fame that you don't got famous for you got some damn money I mean, but fame is so much power man And it's like it's only human nature to abuse power man You know, I'm saying not really genuine fame like that I'm just telling you it's the such thing as fake fame, you know Well, you know, we got your damn studio put it in your house She's wrapping in your closet next thing, you know Somebody tell you you're doing okay cuz you was hanging out with baby name for one damn day And hey, I'm I'm there now and I say hey, what's up, man? Like you just up at the end of the day. You're not famous Yeah, I think I think we actually I think in our culture as far as Dallas So since I've been back in Dallas, I've been here through the whole boogie area and all that stuff And I really feel like that happens a lot in here like yeah We basically blow up too fast and we inflate our egos. So then we're like, oh, we got to know our work You got to know who you dealing with it's this for this when in our actuality like okay Say I'll book you for a show and you really not you only gonna bring out your homeboys and nobody else like you know I'm saying and But you know you like nah, but I'm doing this or you know, it's a little bit different like I've seen it me myself I think people blow up too quick and it kind of kills their career. It does it definitely kid. Don't don't counter Yeah, I'm kind of because this is what people forget. This is what people forget. It's really about service, man It always has been you when you when you're in service, man, you should do shit for free sometimes I'm sorry from customer. You should do stuff for free sometimes like it's just part of it Because that energy that you put out will automatically come back to you. Yeah, yeah I definitely agree with that. So coming up you was down in Miami. You down on South Beach Yeah, I'm looking at them girls in the bikinis. I know what you were doing. Don't play me Nick. I know what was going on down there in the bikini. Yeah, yeah beach South Beach is new See that not any match the whole beach is new. This is crazy. I didn't know that I was in my trunk zone. I didn't know they were rolling like to know it's not a part of the beach the whole beach Wow, when I was out there, you know, they changed the rules because even how long that's a long time. Yeah it was a while ago, but They changed the rules because they even used to be 18 and up to get into the club down there on the strip You know saying yeah, that was right before I got down there But it was still like, you know, but um, yeah, man, I loved it when I lived down there Like I said, I moved in Miami with $40 in the dream and in 10 months late I was on the radio. How long was you on the radio down there? Um, I was station power 96 so with Teddy T So I had a relationship with uh, when I went with a guy I'm a shout out to my brother Scorpio He's my manager and I was actually linked up with the largest record pool in South Florida It was off the hook promotion for him and I just learned so much about the industry back then and like I said This is back then this is before the internet is really surging. How are you? Oh, where I was probably about 24 23 24, you know, so um bad boy. Yeah, man. It was surging man And you know back then it was just it was different, you know people would come in We have to go service the radio station with the records, you know, we did the whole flyer That was the whole flyer where everything, you know, they was hand-to-hand with the hand-to-hand promotion Yeah, so I learned a lot about the industry and how everything works when I live down in Miami Shout out to my boy Gary down there purple carpet got to store down there in Miami. Yeah, that's lit Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah certain ones that we did we had to go see them when we go down there man. Yeah Yeah, I actually do miss Miami, but I try to go down here Yeah, I try to go down every once when I was just down there in March actually, but you wouldn't move back I'm thinking about it if you know if I can get I can move up a couple more tax brackets I can get an apartment down there because they keep building stuff down there Oh, it's crazy. So I would love to have like a little apartment on the beach or something like that But you know, that's that's just pricey because people in Texas are usually so hardcore Texas that they'll visit other places But they won't move any more. That's the reason why I was asking But he coming back home Nothing like Dallas ain't nothing like you go down there. You're coming back. No, that's facts I already know man. We got what the economy is right here. I don't know I ain't gonna shout out to the Republicans and what they doing. I don't know what's up with Texas There is something about how they just make us feel like somebody else, you know, I'm saying I feel like I'm just some just Oh another level at all time. Okay. What happened in Philadelphia? What happened in wherever it's gonna be like, well, I'm in Texas We over here. We in Texas No, we like Different honestly man to me and you know, I don't know people can call me conspiracy theories or whatever but to be honest Texas has so much power in the world because Texas is a place when it comes to reform gun reform This is the first place that if they can take the guns from Texas from Texans then they can they can do the whole thing Yeah, but they ain't gonna be able to take no guns from Texas, so you got that, right? So that controls a lot like the power that Texas has even like overall in general is huge man Like it's it's huge for me. Yeah, I look at it because like I said even with the gun reform thing They ain't gonna better do that in Texas. Yeah. Yeah. They ain't no I still had guns buried exactly bro. You know what I'm talking about. What does Marcell mean? Oh, this is my clothing line So Yeah, so it's a clothing line, you know shout out to my brother Guapo man He passed away man tree hugger was his clothing line and after he passed he passed about two years ago on Yeah, I started the clothing line based off of our friendship man. It was one of my close partners man I used to go I used to pull up on them, you know every two to three times What happened to it? Somebody shot a man. It was like a domestic thing with a girl him and the girl died. So Wow. Yeah, it was I'm sorry to hear that Yeah, it was pretty tragic gun violence is something that's funny how you went right into that and you know, it's just You hate to see that happen. Yeah, I mean, I don't think I don't think I don't think taking guns away controls that narrative No, because I mean wherever the guns are illegal even in New York the guns have been illegal in New York for a long time Correct, even after they start doing the five-year mandatory correct people still carry guns I know that and that's why I said make it hard on the ones who who try to do right and be like I'm gonna be a good person. Yeah. Well, not a bad person who's sneaking around with the gun becomes the one who's in power So you gotta be careful. Yeah, you gotta be very careful. No, yeah for sure What um, so so you real-life streets street is it street story? What is it real-life street life street stars? How did you end up dealing with these guys man? So shout out to Jeff Joker Rook midnight fast money Real-life month cousin Jeff the whole squad over there, man So I linked up with them probably about five years ago Maybe and um me and Jeff always been cool, but we started actually working together I was the in-house producer over there and um, you know helping them try to Sometimes like like I got a pretty good Relationship with Asian Dolls manager. Okay. So sometimes I you know try to maneuver whatever I can maneuver to good interviews Or you know celebrities on the show or whatever and sometimes I ask the questions with them So I just you know that whole platform shout out to them And it just it's a huge scene. It's like one of the biggest vlogs in Texas It is I've been watching them and I'm very proud of what they do for the south. No for sure They hold them down. So they're for the culture. Yeah for sure And so where I come in is that I actually have a hyena and halos podcast on the real life production channel And uh, that's what me me and Jeff curated then and it's basically like a Battle of the sexist type of podcast where we actually do it in an open setting So due to cove it we brought it back to the studio, but originally it was basically in the club It was in downtown at opera club opera in the top part And it would basically be a live interactive podcast where it would be Men opinion versus women opinion in the open setting and uh, it was really really dope man is because we have live interactive with the audience But we asked them their opinion about certain questions You know, I will basically I will basically do a current events We have a letter of the day a letter of the week and then uh, we do venus versus mars Which is basically like, you know, all have all at it. Like, you know, I really I really like that You know, but it's honestly man. It's really an expensive like a date night thing You can actually bring your girl out to it and what so many women have come to me about after the show They say man, I really it really helped me Into a man's mind to see what a man's thinking because a lot of times when you ask people questions They're going to give you an answer based off of the relationship or based off of the dynamics of the relationship at the Current present time But when you're in an open form and you're just asking questions people are going to say what they think You know to make an impressionable Appearance on their opinion, you know, so you really get what people are really thinking in that open form So due to cove it like I said, I had it and we brought it back to the studio, but we back outside So I'm about to be back outside. I'll probably be on the rooftop or somewhere. Amen. Don't don't run out there I want you to walk out there. Listen, man. Don't you catch nothing? Don't catch nothing man And the thing is is that we're hitting a halo. So There's nothing No, I'm safe man. I'm a safe guy. That's what I'm gonna say, man Let me ask you so You you basically when you do the beats you do them just for yourself or you like like love love doing them for everybody No, man to be honest with you. I'm pretty much a walking label um And the reason that I say that is because I produce for about Let me just name it out name it out Nate g Okay Artie, okay Abbey unique. Okay. Um Ashley Michelle. Okay Alfredo Zane Brittany Kiana So you just like to get to it. Yeah, so I produce for a lot of different artists and um, different type of artists All different type of artists. So um, and I basically produce everything I record everything I mix and master everything I usually do the artwork most cases. I shoot the videos I'll chop up the videos. That's why real life street stores stores got you over there. Yeah talented brother Yeah, and then and then you add that all of that and then with real life street stars real life productions I have a platform where I can be able to showcase it or whatever the case may be So in a in a essentially I am a walking label because I just do so much different stuff And then even with the artist I'll book you for shows because I do Dallas some plug And with Dallas I'm gonna ask you about that. I heard you're talking about it earlier Yeah, so Dallas some plug is something else that I curated. Uh, it's basically where I try to capture Um the transition between sonic sound and live sound Okay, every time and it's like every time it gets everybody every time because what happens there, especially independent artists They never perform with a live band. I know they always perform with studio tracks with the vocals inside of the tracks Over top of the tracks with the mic and the dj So actually being able to provide that band element it really because the band will test you I know the band will test you and let you know exactly where you're at as an artist So it's really a stepping stone for artists and indie artists to come out I would love for you to come out man to the next one that I come out You gotta tell me when it is. I do it every Friday. Can we boo? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely You know, it's to Apollo in Dallas. I'll boo you up off the stage. Nah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, you better. I thought you said can you boo? No, boo Boo they can get him out of here Yeah, you do it as you Honestly, if you find somebody that you can boo, I will let you boo No, because honestly, man, you know Yes, Dallas has so much talent and even the people that because you know, there's a registration fee I don't charge $20 a song, you know for people that I don't ask to participate Yeah, I mean and if they want to get on and it's basically, you know people that's serious about their craft They usually be nice, you know, I mean, it's a good place. Is it like it's not like it's a very intimate setting It's not like karaoke. It's really like no, it's a band man And the band I have is pretty much the coldest band in Dallas. I'm gonna say it right now Musical alchemist man. Trust me, bro. It's the band is crazy. It's like a five piece band So I can look him up Yeah musical alchemist and if you look him up, you pretty much gonna see Dallas unplug because like we do You know, we do a lot of stuff and um, um, I just been trying to curate all of these different Things man, because I'm looking like I just want to monopolize Everything that I do because it all pretty much intertwines with each other, you know, there's merch I don't know where to merge in the videos, uh, you know, um the videos I edit though, you know, I'm saying so everything pretty much ties in together I just try to I'm just trying to monopolize My skill set how many other things can you come up with because it seemed like you keep coming up with this and this and this and This and this and this how can you find time for everything? I know you want to put it all in one I mean, you ain't got no family. Oh, yeah, I do. I don't want a single day. I mean Single say it single day single day Um, I mean like, you know got my got my son. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I had to take him Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna go Kevin Samuel's owner, but let's keep it moving. No. Yeah. Yeah. No. So, um, No, yeah, yeah But I think it's it's key to stay busy because God's got a gift in you So as you keep going and doing all these things, I mean you're helping a lot of people No, everything you said Curious to helping people. No, it's you providing a platform But then also you provide merch you providing things to where it can help people I think that's the biggest thing and I'll say this every episode everything that you do Should be to be a servant to help people. Yeah, I mean, I believe in service. Yeah, it all about am I right? Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean I think I mean and when you talk about, um Leaving a legacy so what does legacy consist of what is real legacy? Legacy to me is being remembered for what you did But if you don't have any Relationships or if you're not impressionable on anybody To even for them to even remember what you did. How can you have any type of legacy? So, you know, and that's my thing It's like, you know, it's all about elevating other people because you know, it all the energy comes back around. Wow. I mean, that's how I feel Yeah, no, I mean, I hear you loud and clear. Yeah, because even when I'm because even sometimes I know I'm going I'm doing too much or I shouldn't do this Or this person talking to me like this and I'm like, you know, who do you are? You know, or you know But I just say hey, um You know, it's going to come back or, um I just show love man. My motto is really show love and keep it moving like and with me like I'm a leo but like I don't know if you're into astrology stuff, but you know, I really kind of do the street astrology thing a little bit What date are you 27 27? 27 July he 26 and I'm 23. Yeah, it's leo. It's all it's line of party Check it man. You heard the man. You heard what the man said. There's a lot of leadership going on It is so whereas, um real life street stars and The person because you know, we can never see the person who's asking all the questions and stuff like that So how many people do they have asking the question? It's it's so as jeff joker fast money midnight real And um, like I said cousin jeff. So usually it's uh joker No, it's usually it's joker Midnight fast and jeff and jeff that's usually she's usually those four So they rotate sometimes it'll just be two of them Sometimes it'll just be fast and uh, joe and jeff or sometimes it'll be fast and joker or whatever. So, uh, yeah No females Um, yeah, shout out to the first lady angel white. She's she's definitely down. Shout out to angel white. She's the albino She's actually albino and uh, she's dope dope artists. I got a couple records with her our producer I like to think of myself as her producer, but um We haven't recorded a recent say it say it. So she comes out and asks at the next question. Yeah, i'm a producer There you go Yeah, step into the step into the position don't play you did that. No, yeah, no Honestly, I have a lot of her original records were records that she don't that she didn't get the beat from youtube I actually produced so her original records like yeah, I produced it and that's hot and that's hot Yeah, so you putting that work in you got to be a man. I've been working man I just like my daddy always told me like when I used to play ball And my daddy always told me he said man when we was practicing don't worry about if it's going in It's all about the form just keep shooting. Yeah perfect your form. Yeah, perfect your form. Yeah form and get it to go in Yeah, perfect the form. So I'm just still shooting man Like I said, I do a lot of stuff and I know a lot people be like man, you do too much, but it's all good Who rocked with down in houston? I know you be a man shout out to my brother ryan man ryan in houston I'm actually about to get ready to do a pool party out there I'm actually about to go host one on the 19th next saturday and then i'm going to call The pool party that i'm going to be doing is called half naked So I have this thing so I have the dallas angels It used to be called a dirty angels But I had a minute It's about three or four now like usually fluctuates like I got an alumni of about 60 You know of people that I can go back and tap into but really the you know pretty much the The top video vixens or models in dallas. They pretty much have I've worked with them like keto robes ginger Yeah Sookie like you know, I mean all the top ones that look real real pretty in a real front have pretty much I've worked with them or they've been on my podcast or whatever the case may be. Yeah. Yeah, so um But um, we're basically doing it's kind of like, you know, um half naked, you know, um For all the ladies, you know, we basically an r&b lingerie party. Wow, and when we have people come out and um You know, you know for me like when I started this whole thing, you know So when I started the whole model meet model media all female media group, you know, basically what I the quotations for Uh, it was called the dirty angels and it was basically just for me to build my own brand I was urban program director for this for this radio station And I had my own show on Thursdays and I was just like, well, I want to do something on Wednesdays and I'm just catered it to the ladies and uh, it was I just did it for myself and it took on its own personality And then I got thinking I was like, dang, how can a girl go home to her dad and say dad? Guess what the most Most awesome opportunity came home came to me today And yeah, I'm a dirty angel. He's gonna be like, you're a what? Oh, you know what the little girl thing don't say that. They're gonna sneak in anyway They're going home telling their daddy they're dirty angels. I mean, I mean dirty little angels I mean people post, you know dirty angel, you know So but for me it was an oxymoron brand. It was an oxymoron. It makes you think what it is, you know It's the thing about that but I changed it It really sound like you you pretty much organized, you know, some type of escort service. No, see and that's what I wanted to keep Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go on to say that Yeah, you ain't gonna get past me This is an escort service I was caught up in a maze for a second, but then it clicked and said he he talked about escort No, no, I see so the thing is is that I'm not having anybody pay for anybody's time Okay, let's just for a video Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is for a video shoot or photo shoot Okay, so that's the only time that you're paying for time or club hosting You had some click click some words in there. You said the half-naked Yeah, you said, uh, you know, they go home and they tell their daddy, but they came really telling what they're doing No, no, no, this is an escort service No, no, no, they can tell them what they're doing like I said, it's a female media group So we do uh, we do we do, uh interviews Okay, event hosting so they do that too. Yeah, I do. I mean, yeah, I have basically pretty much wherever I go I'm talking about the dirt angels man. Dallas angels. I changed you That's what I told you that's what I said. Look, I had to change it I was like, look, I gotta change it. You know, Dallas is an international market. Yeah, you know, Dallas Cowboys Yeah, you know, Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders And pretty much what I was trying to do is just create an urban version of that, you know for women of color You know what? I still hate them old boys got him first. Hell, I wish I'd have started back No, no, no, you're a good one. I appreciate that man. No, no, I can tell I know people man. I appreciate that Yeah, as long as you as long as he got your back, you know, you ain't got nothing to worry about He down with you like for no, I got you like, you know, I'm a I'm a Leo So I'm pretty loyal. It's just it's one of those deals where, you know, if you burn me Then you'll be like, oh man, I didn't think he was capable of that But as long as we They got this I got that thing that burner they call them burners I show love and like that's my whole thing. My motto has always been to show love and it seemed like you got a great spirit, man You know, um, the thing I can really really add is that as you keep going man, like I said the way you speak I can tell, you know, it's a few people that came on this platform that really knew how to speak on the microphone George Lopez because he had a podcast Shout out to George Yeah, uh, uh, who else? Jay Cruz Vita loca You could tell these people were experienced as speaking on that mic I can tell who's experienced and who's not because I've been watching and I'm like, okay Yeah, but you you on point, man. I appreciate that. I like that man. I appreciate that. I can tell everything gets self-talked I didn't I have no formal No formal nothing formal education nothing me. I started out on Instagram live. No, I'm just And I took it there, you know, I just decided one day I was gonna talk and I would talk anyway So it wasn't hard for me. This is easy for me. No, this is easy. No, you're natural Let it we we all I think you are too in a big presence. It's like, uh It's just one thing to be natural at talking but then it's also another thing to have the presence to captivate people Listen to yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know me Appreciate that. No, we're trying to we just trying to keep them going right the official miss Jamaica But yes, sir, you're getting hungry. I can tell when you get home. You won't say nothing She's been she's been sir. She's been indifferent. She's been indifferent Towards me ever since I said dirty Man, she ain't man. She's been she she knows about people we we deal with so many That's the one thing we can't we bring to the table. I guess we've dealt with so many different people over the years Uh, it's it's something it ain't nothing too much. That's gonna surprise us Because we've seen it, you know, um, we've been you know, we've been around different people, you know And they were doing whatever, you know what I'm saying? We friends with a lot of different people We've seen a lot of different things. I can't talk about it. Um, hey, man, you know, just you know It's a it's a thing where you know, you got to know that people it's all type of people out here Man, but didn't see god. He does something for me I like I said with the people in that seat I feel like god put them in that seat because at the end of the day You can be a light pretty much that pull people out of darkness in certain situations in their life No, absolutely. So I think that's that's the part that we know so we meet people where they're at It don't matter who you are. Yeah, uh, we certain people like don't bring them on the platform I'll be like no I'll bring them because at the end of the day I'm supposed to bring people out of darkness. No, that's that's that's hard Actually, that's hard I'm just being real. That's hard. That's like jesus hand Yeah, yeah, like yeah, it's the truth. Like you got to help people. So we not helping nobody What the hell we doing it for? No, I mean to me like I said, I think it's fulfilling. I mean, it's like I mean, it's like people go through life Super duper vain Yeah, and all about vanity and all about what they do and even if they help somebody it's about what I can get out of it Yeah, yeah, I see it. Absolutely opportunity opportunities. You know, yeah motive motive a hidden motive most of the time most of the time Yeah, but when it's done out of complete Like when you're genuine about it. Yeah completely. Yeah, um, I just think you it's always received It definitely is and god has a way of turning things to good You know, absolutely. So you can mean it for bad, but god turned it to good and and with me I try to be so impactful Like I said, I think I have like I think god has given me Um, the ability to have godly love because like I'm I'm patient and I know I see I see people's Quirkinesses and they flaws and all that stuff right when I first meet or be ooh, they gonna talk about this stuff all day Oh, this person gonna do this And I'd be like, um I still accept it, you know Compartmentalize it figure out how to deal with it you maneuver around. Yeah, and then but I accept them for who they are Yeah, you know what I mean and then I just keep it moving. Well the thing I can say about that is a lot of times I think the way we do things a counselor coach you I know y'all hate to hear that but at the end of the day I believe that it's certain people that I people like why you why you let him come on the platform Or why you talk to this person or that person? But there's a process being done in each individual and and and if you just give up on them at a certain state And and where they're at then you might not see that god got something bigger on the other side And that person can grow into it and a lot of people don't give people a chance. They just give up on them No, absolutely. I don't want to give up on nobody I mean because a lot of times people like you say it goes back people, you know look at What's in it for me? Yeah, and even when it comes to opportunities Like a somebody you see an opportunity it'd be opportunity. You'll give somebody opportunity I've done that right but the opportunity is not shiny. It's not glistening. It's not sparkling with glitters and glows You have to roll up your sleeves. You got to get a little dirty and they don't even they still won't take the opportunity You know because but but people think opportunities are always supposed to be shiny and that's not that's not the case But you're giving people opportunity procrastination can also cause that as well Oh man, I got procrastination problems for you give people opportunity a lot of times and it's like I'm a bible guy man and and you don't you don't cash your pearl before the swine So you don't you don't put your pearl necklace around a pig's neck What I'm saying is you don't you feel me you you don't just give things you think you helping somebody a lot of Time they're not in the situation to be able to understand to help you trying to give man So right there. That's hard too. Yeah, that is a good word for today No, that's true. No, that's gonna be the good one. You're not helping that person. No every time somebody says something With significance and relevance I said and it's impactful to yeah my perspective on yeah, I say that's the good word for the day So that's that's the good word You just gotta be careful on where you saying you helping somebody when you really not you're really doing something With a gift that God put in you that you shouldn't be doing and they because they're not even because they're not They can't handle it Yeah, and you really done looked at them and tried to give them something and you miss called it Because you should have seen that in them because you you trying to help so much that you didn't help them you hurt them No, I yeah, no, no You know, because you know what that's called though. Sometimes that we know what that's called What is it called? It's enabling. That's it. That's it. That's what that's called true stories So you you you thought I made this funny little face and you thought I didn't understand what the hell you said What is he doing, you know, but no man, but you give me though. You feel it Exactly what it is. No, I mean, I mean, you know, that's one of the things where You know, I try to live my life by you know another thing that my daddy told me Is um You know people gonna remember not what you say, but how you make them feel that's it You know, so I just try to be as genuine as I can To every eat to each and everybody that I meet no matter how are you coming down the ladder? Are you going up the ladder? Yeah? Yeah, you don't matter. I'm gonna still be the same dirt It's gonna be that's and that's keeping it real That's what we you baby. Straight out the mud baby. We keep it real Straight out the mud baby. Let's go. Let me ask you a question. No, we're not gonna do this Let's meet the year top three artists of all time You really going in with the D? Hey, hey, hold up. You in the south, brother. I'm gonna say that. Any genre? Yo, I'm saying don't come over here. It doesn't have to be rap. Look how you look Any any genre? I'm gonna say number one Nas is one of my favorite mcs. Here we go. You know, um, yeah, you talk like you talk like You from the east coast. I knew this was gonna happen. Yeah, I gotta turn this whole damn platform This nigga here for the recognized Nas Jay-Z and Biggie. No, I mean you're in the damn down almost and you know, no, Jay-Z is not No, no, no, don't get it twisted man. Listen, I didn't so the thing is is that I when I came back to texas I really Gained a groove to appreciate pimp see Music and that's the key word right there. You know what I'm saying? That's the key word I think he watched the episode so he knows what to say. Boy, you you own something. No, no, no, no. Say it again what you just said. I haven't seen any of No, he ain't seen it. Go ahead. Shout out to my brother Watts man in the building, man He's the one who called me out here, man. I've been rocking with him for years, bro And he was crazy, bro. Who don't rock with Watts? No, Watts is a good dude. He's a genuine dude. Genuine guy, bro. It's always been love every ever since we've met and um The reason that I say that is because he sent me the link. So I did see a little bit of it. Yeah, yeah, but um, I don't know I'm I can tell that you probably got a um, you know Super duper love for pimp see but I do too. Yeah, you know, I'm real Right here. It hits me right here. No for sure. Yeah, um, but I'm gonna say that I'm gonna say my favorite mcs right now. Um, or people that I I like to listen to and who did he say? Nas So who is your number two? I heard Nas say boss talking at last. So I'm gonna say um my damn platform I'm gonna say uh nipsey nip. I meant nipsey. Good guy. Yeah, I meant nipsey too. Real good guy. Yeah, good guy. Um And I'm gonna do some rmb in there. Um, number three, let me go with uh I'll leave a lead. We hadn't gotten a lia never niggas slept on a lia. They didn't know. Yeah, I mean Like I said, she rocked the boat and they're all and the reason I was a last one Now the reason I say lia is because like I said, I grew up in virginia beach during that time that virginia beach was that Motown era. So we had timberland the neptunes clips uh for rail Um, nats raw bing nats raw made all the buster rhymes. Well made a lot of buster rhymes hit beats back then Um, teddy riley. He was in virginia beach at that time. Everybody know what type of producer telly riley is Um, and it was one other person. Oh big dog and he made the rule is bad. He may be produced for jz and things like that So, uh back then that time like that 757 era was Motown because we had I mean timberland was doing order and timberland and the neptunes were doing all the production You had r&b basically was virginia beach's sound which was just in timberlake aliyah Genuine, I mean all of that sound even that sound so even when they created that sound you had lsg Who basically took that sound you had uh key sweat who basically took that sound? I mean it was people that Did he name chris brown? I didn't name chris brown. Chris brown is from down there. He is from virginia. He's from uh, peter's He's from peter's. He's from like richman peter's burger. He might beat on women No, I think rihanna beat on him. Okay, yeah, straighten it up then. I'm just trying to say I just got my microphone I think I just say something just bam. I think I think they got into a fight and you know, yeah, let's bring it back up He's sick of this. He don't want to hear about it no more. He is sick of it I won't be sick of it too. Well, I'm gonna be honest with you when you're young It's some things I did when I was young but at the end of the day you learned from him But see let me go there man See god put a thorn in your side to keep you from being too prideful So that he put that in there to keep you coming down. So you see and that's where you're gonna you're gonna really grow There you go. See that that that builds integrity. Yeah, see that was then For what's going on now in his life and he don't even know that. Yeah, it's keeping that. Well, I'll tell you man That's why this podcast is hard It's the truth like when I when it's when it resonates, it's hard So, uh I got a question dirt. What's up? It's a kid that's trying to get into music and uh His family, you know, they dysfunctional and he's trying to get into it. He's about 16 Uh, what would you tell him to help him to try to understand? So this is when this is the first thing he's going to need to do He's going to need to register For ask cap or bmi to make sure he get his publishing because the first thing the first record or anything that he cut He can ensure that he's going to get paid for if it goes viral Um, so ask cap is going to be one of the first things second thing is going to be figure out what's distribution company is going to be Best for you. Okay. Um The third part is probably should have been first is actually Create some good music Get with a good producer um And when I say a good producer somebody that I would say you can partner up with and what I mean that y'all pretty much split everything Whether the cost of the marketing the cost of the video production or whatever And be strategic Read some books about corporate America and how corporate organizations run their company and you implement that until your music into being a rapper You know, basically you sit down every week to have an admin meeting. I mean basically in that My people's put me on to I haven't even finished watching it, but the Barry Gordy Okay special pretty much all that's special just watch that Look at everything that he did. Uh-huh Look go read a corporate book of how corporate America works and the things in the corporate infrastructure And you apply that to the rap game. I got you move. What's the biggest mistake that you see? These artists out here make it right now um I think the biggest mistake that artists are making Is what we talked about earlier is the uh before your time like Okay, acting too big Yeah, the fame book where it's like, you know People that are way more famous than you go way more humble than you Ain't that something boy? He said that don't I say that every episode the more money they get The more humbler they become But I but I noticed these niggas around me talking and acting of food So I know they probably really got no whole bunch of bread like that because when I meet the the higher ups the upper echelon They're more humble, but wouldn't you think that's cause because When you first get all that money you act a fool with it. You do all the cream. Oh, you learn. Yeah So as you yeah, it's a process if you don't lose it all some of them don't even have money like that though Yeah, they never got it. They're just acting a fool You know instagram got these boys they own here and you can make it look any way you want to But I've told people if you fake in real life, you fake on instagram Is it really just you being who you are you you fake if you real you're real you get real You know what I'm saying, but if you fake even down beneath, you know When people couldn't tell it comes out because no it does I mean because you know what's done a dark gonna come to the light Michelle Have you ever somebody kind of made you feel a certain way like that they was You know somebody that they really wasn't when you met him like damn I thought they would have a little more going than that they fake they tricked me Um or she put on that that certain filter and you say damn she don't look like she looked Oh boy Boy basket hush puppies Catfish it What yeah, I'm just saying you know, they got a feel to everything. Yeah, it'd be super duper inflated man You know and even you know and even with me, you know with dealing with the uh With the ladies and the models. Oh my god like You have to have patience because like a woman that is beautiful and has been given pretty much everything to or pretty much she's been you know catered to Majority of the time or you know has the way where she can get what she wants or she uses her physical appearance or You know to get what she wants. I mean trying to deal with that sometimes is man That is it can be tough, you know Yeah, but uh what I what I do realize is that People do have a lot more misconception about women that are pretty, you know people think that they always get hit on Which sometimes they do get hit on just talk about it, but It's not as much as they probably you probably think because sometimes some people are intimidated. Yeah Like like literally the bad you would think like sometimes the baddest chick in the club won't get holiday Yeah, yeah, I know she's the baddest one in the club Yeah, but nobody felt like that they were in a position to even holler at her or even or even or if she can holler that It's by something by junebug or some or or they just they can feel her spirit permeate Permiate now that it's not really something that you want to deal with. It's a lot of that's why kevin samuels is doing so good Oh kevin samuels be speaking the truth because it's a see but my wife don't Kevin samuels be speaking the truth. It's hard. It's a lot of women out here that have been uh They mind and the way that they were raised and the way that society has projected our people It it has interjected something into them that pretty much Is causing them to have a hard time dealing with things in today's society. Well, what did absolutely Did you hear what I just said? I had to get it right No, you what you're right. You what you said is absolutely right and what people don't understand is that all of this shit is programming Yeah, everything is programming even down to like I believe in god, right? But I've been programmed to believe that god is white with blue eyes You understand program. Oh, that's what they would like group with your hope of witness Yeah, you know I'm saying society. It's different It's like even when even with the whole with with how our belief system even that I mean that comes from Europeans Yeah, I mean all of the like even this. I mean all of this stuff is like the information that's out right now, man I really feel like that people should really try to step outside of a box and look at it because Everything that we do is basically marketing and promotion to us through the tv through mind control through tv and um I mean down to everything that we do. I mean even like it's I mean it's Everything we do man is a program. I always try to teach people is you know um Like you say a european White white guy with blue eyes Never, you know, I never felt that way because of my study and research I never felt that way. Well now when I'm saying when it was given when it was first When it was first presented to you though No, when it was first presented to I didn't really believe like that When it was first presented to you I didn't really I didn't but when it was listen I didn't have time for no religion spirituality. None of that stuff But when you first wouldn't but when you first saw it when it was first presented to you period That's what it was A period I'm telling you. I mean even when you saw it on tv I didn't when you saw a church. I wasn't you saw a mural wasn't went into it I'm not saying that she was into it into it to where I wanted to even understand it when you lost He didn't think about it. Yeah, but when you lost he's not trying to figure about getting saved and all that You out here trying to figure out how to sell dope how to get a lot of women see you're a good dude because you're older now But when I was young, I didn't have time to think about that and if you tried to bring it to me I was gonna run from you I'm getting the hell away from you because I'm trying to do this right here and it's way more important than that No, but the way you think I know I understand what you're saying. I'm not saying I'm saying but when you first saw it I'm just saying what even when you first saw it even when it was brought to you even when your friends talk about it My friends didn't talk about it My friends talk about trying to hustle. I'm being real. We So you never went to church never never never I wasn't a church girl. I never joined the church in my life But you never went to church and get it when you I went but I didn't go ever go Yeah, but I was trying to get some candy or something It was not like that, but even when it was presented to you Well, it's no you what you're trying to do is you're trying to say, okay You had to take it serious, but when you yo, I'm not saying I'm just saying the program fact Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm just saying the program. I get what you're saying and I get what you're saying But I'm I'm more with him because like for me. I saw that She wouldn't do that. I know I grew up in Jamaica and I grew up in the church and all of that They didn't have a picture of the white Jesus and all of that and not even in the church Um, they'll have a cross up, but that's about it. But I never Somebody usually they've got somebody know it's a wooden person. So you can't know it's a wooden person So there was no color. Okay to the person with this with the hair stringy It ain't woolly. You don't even Okay, I understand that but as a child when you're going number one as a child going you fall in the sleeping church You're not even you You're not thinking that is when you get older You start to think about those type of things as a child. You're not thinking unless you're just a special child that you just You're not a special child. No, you're not thinking like that. I'm not saying I'm not even saying you're thinking about that What I'm saying is like a Bible story What I'm saying is like even a Bible even a Bible story, right? And it's cast cartoon characters and all that stuff. No, no, what you what you explain that watchtower to get y'all Yeah, exactly. I wasn't a geo We It depends on the religion because it yeah, we don't we don't know I was anglican So anglican we didn't have all of that problem. You know what I mean? It's only when I came here to the states everything was black white Woolly straight. It was it it became such a thing where you had to think about that Back then we weren't thinking about that we just think about okay, you're going to church you go to church for this or that Whatever, that's about it. You're done. No, I mean like I said, I I believe in God, man I went I went to td td td jakes church when I was 18 this men the men conference it has in North Carolina I went down there was like 30,000 men grown men paying And you continue to and all of that stuff, right? I so I felt the presence I know that it exists But I'm just saying like sometimes the the The presentation sometimes I just have a well, I think the most important thing is dirt that you got to read man And not only listen read research I think that's the biggest thing and I think that's why what differs me From a lot of others is that when I did my research it was in depth and I tied my camel to a date tree I mean, I looked at the hot I was feeling like the hot deserts saying I was I couldn't see Jesus No other way but with with with with her like wool and bronze because that's what I was reading I wasn't looking and then I understood that it was in the east and that's where man was first Discovered and I I would I would look for scribes and how did the canon strips should come together So I didn't get it like the with the watchtower, but I understand where you're coming from when I got it I was older too and I had went through something that made me say man But my mama died. Let me see what she was tripping on about this bible Yeah, that's when it hit me and so I wanted to understand what she was really reading And if it was real and then I started studying hinduism now I booism. I started studying buddhism I start studying overwitness. I started studying Oh everything so and then I'm like, oh this is what this is and then I'm like this here Ain't matching with this here. So it become a puzzle to me. So at the end of the day Every time I would do that I got closer to god in christ I'm just being real. But I had looked and looked at all I'm looking at everything And then I'm like, okay, but what about this and what about that and that's how I came over with mine So but when they was trying to tell me about it early on I was too busy trying to be in them streets, man I didn't care nothing about that or get a little girl. I started knocking them off at early age Yeah, I wasn't into all that. I'm just being real. So I wasn't nothing serious You didn't find nothing out until about what about what age 24 25? Okay, you see where I'm coming from But before that all hell was breaking loose. No, I was But that's why I never was a member because when I read the bible It didn't say you had to be a member It didn't say that it said that what you know god God does not dwell in a house made with hands. What what so what will you build me? So I knew that that was fake. So I just don't believe the same way But even with the bible do you believe that some of those stories I've heard this you can say a change made up No, not a change you're made up just taking from other scriptures or Scriptures where? For like the story uh horrors. I mean, it's very similar to jesus. Okay. I mean That doesn't well, but think about it but when when you date back to the biblical sense you thinking about it because the the history and uh research that I done puts the date of the Bible before everything else for me when I researched it So at the end of the day everything else becomes something that could have been meant to me now That's just the way I believe you say so So the bible was the first form of literature when you look at the canosidae description Look at the scrot the scrolls and everything and how they kept finding them how uh king james sent See we say the first form of literature So what so what about a hieroglyphics? That's that's that's not literature definitely definitely literature But like I said, my belief system put me in The scrolls the I'm just let's have questions brother. Yeah, we'll get there Listen to scroll the pillotage and stuff like that. So it's all about how you believe man It's up to you your mind is so powerful Anything even you make your truth even with the book of enoch which I read and that's not I mean It's like so many and the book of paul I mean in the book of in the bible that's presented to us like and mecca bees We can go home for a day. Yeah, no, but I mean, you know what I'm saying like It's it's It's those type of details in facts Like even when they give slaves the bible and they left out moses Correct now that's but people did that. I know I know but what what I'm saying But I'm but even saying but even the what you presented the bible what you presented Because I read the bible too right when I was smaller when I was young and I really feel like the bible is very impactful I feel like if you read it it will talk to you a certain type of way I feel like it's definitely a powerful book. It wouldn't be it wouldn't even be talked about if it wasn't a powerful It's a powerful book but I just sometimes because I'm the powerful question the origin of how it's presented to us like or if this has been recycled I like that white washed and that I like that I'm saying way over into some but I can say you know The reason it's an issue and the reason it becomes a question is because of how it's pushed on you By the masses in america, but you go to certain other countries and you wouldn't ever even that wouldn't be the narrative You know what I mean? So you have this certain thing where you've dug into it because it's a g-hole witness They're sticking it to you at three years old man. You see what I was knocking on doors at four four years old Got them watching his personal I met him at my house. They come through they're knocking man, you know here good people good people good It's a lot of people but how some people but the thing you gotta One thing I used to always say about a job of this or a lot of other religions is the fact that I wish other religions were more aggressive like will go knock on everybody's door because that's what jesus did in the Bible he went from town to town walking Preaching the word, you know But he wasn't knocking on nobody knows. I know he wasn't knocking on my house. I don't care. I don't come around no Saturday Is that you know everybody goes to this building over here or that church over there or whatever And expect that everybody's going to come to these places for help You need to go to the people instead of always waiting for everybody to come to you No, I mean I feel like that's what I loved about what they did. No, I think like I said Like even some of the things that they say um, like it's different from regular christianity like they believe that jesus God and the holy spirit are two different all three different things. They believe that you pray to Jesus in order to get to god, but you're really playing the jojoba But you have to go through a sun and the holy spirit is something completely different Right, so I I believe that some of the things that they say it's like some of the stuff is good But some of the stuff is like especially not letting kids celebrate their birthday That's what you know about See what the problem is the niggle missed by 30 Christmases he didn't get no presents all the other kids getting presents and now you got a personal issue with Look, but look guess what? But guess what? And I get it. I was kneeling. I was kneeling before Callan capping it on the flag I think I think I think the biggest thing you you you said is that uh, you've been soul searching That's what you said. No. Yeah, I mean No, no, no, it's serious. I see it in you that you went through a lot of phases where you were trying to get it figured out And I think that's a good thing. That's what we all do Big ups to that. I mean, why wouldn't why wouldn't I want to be tied to the highest power in the universe? I think I want to be I think you should keep searching like I keep on move keep it moving one guy was on you will forever keep searching You know It's just so much information out there where it's just like well you googling things Now and it's misusing you and taking you and ripping you Yes, no, no, sometimes I pick up a bit google hell Honestly, google google just got like that before when they started the internet They didn't figure that they didn't think that it would be this powerful. Yeah. So originally When a lot of this information is out right now They did not want to be out But now it's definitely being controlled like everything is controlled everything is controlled Like man, they have they have a soul Tied down and on the grid and matrix people don't even realize it's it's it's really bad though I mean to the point where like sometimes even now right now and people might say i'm crazy Look, I'm okay. Look right in that camera. Listen. Is he crazy? Look at him. Listen. Have you ever thought that crazy? Listen, listen both of y'all right. Have you ever thought something? Uh-huh didn't even say it out loud. Uh-huh and then you saw it on your instagram feed or your facebook feed You were smoking weed. Have you he was talking that day? I mean sometime. Yeah, yeah, I know what it was You para know it at that point, son That they got to get this from california. No, no, no No, I Know it has happened that yeah, I could be here in front. We've talked about it. No, we ain't talked about it He's making me leave him out there That we have said something even just to each other and then by the time you scroll in through You see the advertisement come up for that. We're like, okay. They listening. No, I'm saying things I'm saying thoughts. No recently had a thought. No in the last three months. Did you take that shot? No, I didn't okay In the left. I won't take that shot either in the last three. I'm trying to figure out how they control in your mind I'm gonna say six months No, because this is not even me. This is even on my dad. You're sad. Ain't you doing it? No, I mean it's been weird Well, let's talk about it. Like I was thinking like maybe like three weeks ago I was like dad. I kind of want to get a new short sleeve design and shirt some type of design and shirt I'm here. I was I didn't even say it out loud. What happened? And shoot and surely enough I went on my shit and that was It's a coincidence. That's not a coincidence. He said something. It was something about like he said he thought He needed to get some termic. He was like, oh, I'm almost out of termic in his mind in his mind and it popped up on his feet Yeah, and he he said real he called me real That's what they call me. You know my middle name is where you know in texas that everybody call you by your middle name You know what happened and uh, he said real He said, uh, yeah, I got this term. He's like you smoke too Do you be smoking CBD CBD CBD y'all both high no, that's cbd Y'all going through it like look together. No seriously Because we like that and I feel like well, I dare you I'm not the first person to say this though I'm listening. I'm serious man. Think about it. Just one time just do like this Hmm think about it and just go to your phone and see if they don't because honestly, what it don't happen No, yeah, no, no, because honestly, let me tell you why let me tell you why because it's really scientific because it's frequencies It's frequencies. So you you frequencies you want them brothers to think about that, uh, what they call that that five g You wanted them guys you thought No, you the five g corolla. No, I mean I'm trying to meet you. Yeah, brother. No, they put no honestly though with the whole corona thing, man They start putting out as much fake stuff as they possibly could But some stuff was real when they put out because I had this one video I sent it to a couple of people and that video was completely removed And it was basically like the whole breakdown how I was in china and all that stuff And they completely removed that the whole thing would even with um With uh, michelle obama being a man you can't even go on youtube and google that and something to pop up But people been talking about it so much. Do you think she's a man? Huh? What do you think michelle obama? Huh? Who said that? No, you said no I said if you go on there and google it and you try to pull it up It won't pop up. What's going on now? I mean this doesn't really came to a head now. No, no, I don't know I mean, I'm not saying it's true Smoking that weed No, this is what I'm saying. You think michelle obama's a man? I don't know. I mean, I didn't say I don't I mean I saw ellen thing. I saw some things swinging in her pants a little bit, but that was on ellen But I don't know Look, I don't know. Look, I don't know. But all I'm saying is this right? This is all Listen to what I'm saying. This this is what I'm saying, right When you go to ashley try to google that now you've seen that all over if instagram All over instagram, but if you actually go and try to google that on youtube or anything No videos pop up Not even a video of somebody making some type of spoof or anything nothing pops up. That's weird to me That's just weird to me because you can find anything on it. You can find anything You can find anything any fake or baloney or crap or something that doesn't mean any type of revelance or anything That you don't want to put any energy to you can pull that up easy What about katelyn? Is it what's the what's the katelyn gen? No, I'm the daddy katelyn, ain't it? Yeah, you can pull something on katelyn, can't you? Yeah, you can. Okay. So, you know at the end of the day, you know, I don't know Michelle obama she she got two kids according to the way they set her up and and I don't know about that man You see I don't know man. That's some other stuff man. I don't know man. Like I said, man I think I saw the box man. What box is this? I know I mean, I can show you a couple things. It looks kind of weird. It just to me It's just you know, what it just looks weird some stuff looks weird to me I don't know. Do you hear voices too? No, I don't hear voices. Okay. I don't hear voices. See Sometimes No, you ain't never hear no voices, but all I'm saying is that this man. I am just open I'm open to think outside of the box. I mean, I'm not just I'm not going to just download whatever mainstream media tells me Or even whatever the internet tells me I'm going to filter it. I'm going to see it for what it is And then I'm going to make my own and use as you should as you should Like I said with some of the some of the things that I'm saying, I don't know But for me, it's just peculiar. It's certain things that it just makes me scratch my head I think you're a clone or the the kids clones or what what do you believe that the children are real? Huh? The obama's children and Michelle children. Yeah, they raised them in the white house for eight years Yeah, I think they real. Okay. I just want to get us there Because at the end of the day, you know, I'm gonna show you this one picture, man. It's just it's just weird It's just Michelle Obama. You have this fascination with her. No, I don't it's just it's just an example In factuation. No, it's just an example. I mean like Look, I voted for Obama the first time. Oh, it's getting personal on that. No, I voted for him the first time This one got a real person. It was all it was you didn't vote for him the second time. No, I didn't vote for him the second time Huh, why not? I don't know You thought he was fake No, I think that uh I just didn't think yeah, I know Look, I don't know man. Look, I just feel like that Malcolm X holding that shotgun. Yeah in this window Looking down. That's a real american hero. Okay Martin Luther King Even though with all the antics and all the little playboy stuff off camera, whatever Still a real american hero because he sacrificed Himself and even his family for what he believed for a greater cause come on with the obama scenario I feel like that obama is perceived as black jesus and he really didn't He wasn't holding no rifle in the window trying to you know, I mean Did he have to have a lot of backlash and deal with all a lot of Racist stuff. I mean it wasn't still hard being him. Absolutely Well, so do I feel like you could have did more for black people? Are you saying that obama? You should have given reparations. Really? We should have got reparations. Did he sell us out? You saw them? I'll ask you a question. Yes. Do you see how much money they just cut for the stimulus for covid? You don't think they could have cut reparations? And my thing is that even with reparations you set up reparations like this Like look you set up reparations like this You give every black person a million dollars and say you can only spend it with black people See simple and how you do it is that you go You foul a suit with the united nations. Why did you play a trick on me? No, listen, listen You file you file listen you file a suit with the united nations So then it brings black people because right now even black people. We don't have no own nation. We are as a color black That's what we identify. How can you how can you have a nation? How could we even do that? I mean that's I mean look man. You want to talk about it? I'm gonna talk about it No, I think I think you've brought up some valid points. I'm just saying do you believe in counseling, huh? I do believe in counseling. Okay. Have you ever had a counselor? I've had I've had counseling, but this this is the thing I'm asking you do you because I mean I believe in that see see but even like even what you even with what you're saying right now That's a program Method so you don't believe in no no listen to what let me finish That is a program method when you say something that is against the norm or outside the thinking You're supposed to be put in a box as conspiracy or crazy or you don't think like the rest of us But in all actuality all I'm doing is using my own brain waves to decipher I like it. What's going on? I like it in all actuality, but did you hear what I just said? I'm just saying no. I think it's unique. I really do and I believe that I think but they even even even what you even with but even with your approach That is something that was program and talk. You know who talks about that. Uh, the writer of the pal pal pal white horse What's his name? He talks about that in his book. He talks about Just what you did as a method To not get you to think outside the box or be with the program So I know I agree with you understand what I'm saying. I'm just saying brother listen. I agree with it because dirt I'm gonna be honest with you I just think I think you I think you just saying what you what you feel and at the end of the day There's nothing wrong with having your own sense of how I feel about something. I'm cool with it I could rock with it. No, be honest with it. So I mean Kanye was doing a little bit of that I'm being real and they said he was crazy and he got a billion dollars after that. So I can rock with it I know it. I know it can still move. It can still extend even with what Kanye said, right? I was really appalled by what he said, but when I really thought about it, was he wrong? You rock with that too, huh? No, I think it was disrespectful as far as being a choice about a slave, right? Because you can't be a choice like that's you we we have no idea what it felt like to be a slave So we can't even say that like, you know what I'm saying? But The whole part where Free the slaves to go work for other white people I mean that's kind of true. I mean, I don't know. I mean the white people in all the land I mean black people that I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know I mean, I mean, that's what I'm saying. I mean the whole choose to be a slave thing No, I don't agree with that but the whole freedom to go work for I mean, I don't know You don't know. I mean it kind of makes a little I mean, you know, you know, Kanye Shout out to Kanye. He's a great Producer innovative mind man. The great producer too though. Don't play and uh, you're a producer. Yeah, man Are you gonna bring me some beats back on here that I can listen to? Yeah, because I want to do like a thing where we do like a listening session with a couple of producers I already did it with mad max and a couple of cats that uh sergeant j you heard of him He did that buzz and beat and all that so I like to listen to the sounds like if you make something No, I got fire. You see what I'm saying? I want to bring him on and then yeah I do this thing called beat wars too. Yeah, that's what he was talking about. Yeah, he was in it too Yeah, I do beat wars. I actually host a camp out beat battle shout out to my brother campion bond I host that and I actually have my own thing too called beat wars And uh, what we do with producer showcasing and battle and we give away money for the dopest producer and stuff like that So I'll be just be trying to curate a whole bunch of events, but I'm I definitely got some I got some beats and some bars for you Okay, we love you, man. I love you too, brother. Yeah dirt. We love you. Once you come on this platform We're gonna love you. No, we're gonna do step. We're gonna love and through it. Whatever you The crazy I talk the better it may be for views, you know What you doing? I knew I was getting bummed. I knew it. There had to be something you were driving. I forgot where you going. What is this what does this boy say? You were honest about what you feel. I'm just honest like and like I said at the end of the day I don't have all the answers, but it's just I feel like that even with us Doing what we're doing, right? So just shameless plug right quick. So I dropped this album called roots of soul too, right? Okay And it's basically my contribution to The culture the black culture the state of black culture. Okay, and do this It's just different skits from different people saying different stuff And it's just really to start conversation because even when I went You know, I let I was playing my music from my man shout out to my brother nick and callie And we was talking about he was like really what does black revolution look like? He's like, what does it look like? We're gonna go get the guns. Who makes the bullets? Who makes the bullets? Is there any black manufacturing book? Like when you really talk about it It's like man, we're so far from that and you know and even with my album. It was more or less about Sparking some type of conversation about what it is we can do in order to Stop being a second-class citizen in the land that we pretty much built. You're back. You're back now See, I like that you backed what you're talking about now. I can relate to And you step back into the room my nigga. Yeah, baby. My boy back He's back, baby. Then my boy back. You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm saying? So I get it. I'm with you Eve that's my that that was my whole and it's called roots of soul too. Okay. The lux version is 20 songs man I'ma beg you just to listen to it all the way through. Let me ask you this man Because you say a streamer is you are you really making money in music? Let's be real Be real now Don't lie now they call the camera zone Are you really making money in music? It depends on what money? No, no, no, how much I don't want to know But I'm just saying in your heart. Do you really feel like your music is making you money or is it your hustle? You know, I'm interviewing now. It's definitely my hustle. Um Music people need to hear this like like a lot of people get on this show talking about their music They be steady But I really don't know if this music making them money Like I mean that I got a guy coming on that ld 300. He asked me that question Broke in front of me No, man The thing is is that with music like you can make money off of music But you have to figure out what your niche is going to be or what how you can get to about you making money in music Yeah, I've made some money in music. No, no, no, you're making it like when you drop an album Is the money coming back? Uh depends on how much money you're talking about Enough money to live off. I'll have to pay all your bills and and to And to take your And yeah, y'all going in the building coop nigga. No, no, not right now. I mean because yeah, but but I think that With everything because to me music is just an instrument for You to sell yourself as a brand. So with my music, right? People listen to my music But then they be like oh, they see my video. They be like, oh damn. What's that shirt? What's Mirzo? Then I sell some t-shirts But that's really directly from my music. You know I'm saying I didn't make no money off of the streams or the album or whatever But somebody saw me perform. They said dang. I like your shirt Here, how can I support you? Boom. I made 20 dollars. Now, that's that's it right there See, that's that's what we need to be trying to figure out because they don't took the The the I want to sell you a CD hand to hand So we got to find a way to replace that and come back and redevelop so we can gain control over what we're doing And we can't be out here playing like everything's okay When when all hell is breaking loose and our people are not really making the money except for show money or something like that We got to figure a way to articulate this back to where we can control it and help our people if we're gonna do it No, well, what I would say is that the I got you for the artist that you that you want to do is that man You got to figure out how to monetize your youtube channel. That's what they say But I mean it still goes deeper than that for me for as people in the streets We're dealing with people and and I seen, you know, all the clothes start being sold online and I get it But hand to hand people coming it's just it's the same to me So at the end of the day, all I'm saying is we got to find a way to control it better and monetize our things Tangible no the tangible because the tangible sale is how people become millionaires Exactly. If you have something to actually sell. Yeah, like well, you're creative. So I'm just saying That's why we got to get our people the the youth the people who looking at you trying to get into music We got to give them the word. They understand how to deal with you know without with everything Okay, all right, so we almost I hadn't talked y'all there off today You're a hell of a dude I went back to the middle earth Yo, yeah, watch this to me man. Is the earth flat around say man? I'm not for to do this Say man. Hey man. Check it man. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101 man