 Big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? Not my dad walk on. Man, we in the building once again, man. We got a special guest today, man. He really don't need no introduction, man. Y'all know already, y'all done seen his clothing line, man. This guy here, man, he, hey, he come through today, man. Marcus Nash. Yes, sir. Man, man, what's up, man? You're a delight, man. Groomed off, man. I thought I was trimmed up. Keep it, keep it trimmed up. That nigga ready for the camera, man. Yeah, gotta be ready. Man, you look good, man. I appreciate it, man. You know what? We kings, man. You know, when I went to Chicago, they told me I was king. I knew it, though. I already knew it was at the W. They was like, man, well, y'all came, man. Nobody came like that. King. Yeah, I see you. Yeah, I'm king, man. What's going on with you, Marcus? Nothing much, you're chilling. Man, you know, just want to say I commend you and congratulate you, man, because we need more brothers like you, man. Entrepreneurs, people who really, you know, really sets a standard for our people, man. Because a lot of times our people don't know how to shake back in life because all the, like, dysfunctionalities, different things that they go through coming up as kids in families, broken homes. Do you know what I'm saying? Right. One mama, no mama, one daddy, no daddy, you know, it's crazy. Right. So for you to make it through, man, it's crazy how, you know, it's not easy, bro. It's definitely not easy. Yeah. So my wife, you know, how Mr. Maker do it, she going to break you down. She going to come at you a different way. I'm real, you know, we're going to get into the clothes and all that. But I'm going to let her have a flow for a second. Sure, let's do it. So I like to go back in the background. So I need to know, were you raised in a single parent household? Of course. Were you were, of course, like, of course, like, that's not supposed to be the norm. It's something I embrace, though. Really? I embrace it because I respect all young queens out here that's doing it. Taking care of their family single in a single parent household. It's hard, but it takes a strong woman to do it. And my mom is definitely the definition of a strong woman. But why is it so that, you know, the first thing you say is your mom, why can't be a single parent household and it's the dad who took the kids and raising them? I mean, on my end, my dad is a provider. So as a parent, you should be able to spend time with your children and make sure that the children is nurtured properly. So I feel like it's more so on the mother to make sure that the kids are, they upbringing is right. The father is more so the provider. So he had worked. So they have a lot of time to spend time with their kids. But raising a boy, though, is different because the man needs to raise the boy. So, you know, he can know how to become a man. Absolutely. I agree. But in most cases, that's, that's not. It's not so. It's not so. But are you changing the narrative? I mean, do you have any children? I have no children. Well, when you do get some, are you going to leave them with the mama? Yeah, that's what you're saying. He's not going to leave them at all. That's what you're saying. You're going to leave with the mama. Let the mama feed them. And you're going to leave. What do you want? How many, how many men actually plan to leave them? Well, you're right. Because a lot of times the women drive them away. Let's just be real about it, man. Not all the time. The women drive them away a lot of time because brothers, you know, the world, especially black people. How about, you said the women drive them away, but how about is the men don't know how to communicate to be able to keep the family together? Well, if he, if she would listen. So he look at it as she's nagging and she's this and she's that. So I'm just going to leave because I can't deal with her. But instead of sitting down and trying to communicate properly. So we can make this thing work. I hear you like this. Yeah, but don't take that. You just took that abuse that you're going to swallow. No. The problem with that is most of the time we can't, you know, we really can't understand what you want. All right. Because you one way over here, next day over there, next time you're over here, next time you're over there. I love the play. And we just trying to figure out what the hell you going to do next because we can't figure out what you want. All right. You just feel that way because young men have selective herring. So you hear what you want to hear. So you don't really sit down and hear the full picture. Let's get into you because this is going to take it to a whole another level. No, no, I'm going to be real with you. You know, this is a man's world, but it wouldn't be nothing. What do you say? Without a woman's touch. This is a man's world. Yeah. He listened to too much music. But he wouldn't be nothing without a woman's touch. A woman or a girl. Say James Brown. Yeah. I mean, you know, we need each other at the end of the day. If we can make our family stay together, that's really the end game, right? Right. To where we can build and create generational wealth, pulling our families together. And also, you know, bridging those gap, breaking those different curses where we have these single parent homes, even though we had to deal with it because of us being stripped from house to house early on, because of the way that our people was brought and nurtured through our different ways we went through in history. All I'm saying is we have to now start to try to build and try to put those things back together. I think we can do it. We can. Yeah. So where were you raised? Dallas. Dallas? Okay. Oh, really? Okay. Okay. I was a birthday Alexander. Okay. So how many siblings do you have? I have nine siblings. That boy got nine siblings. By your mom or by your dad? Both sides split up. Both sides? By my mom's side. I'm the youngest. I got two older sisters on my dad's side. I'm the youngest. I'll say daddy is the bad one. I got all of them. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. Because my mom only has three. My other six came from the dad. Yeah. That's nine, so. Well, you know, really in the Bible days. I don't have many moms for the dad. See? Look at that look. See that look right there? We all have different moms. But at the end of the day, you know, that's the way it was with Jacob. That's the way it was with Jacob. When he had his 12 sons, he had one wife named Rachel and Leo. That's only two. And then he had another one of two maidens, you know what I mean? That had kids for him. So this is something that they did during those times. But some kind of way the jurisdictions of today have taken it to a place where we have to be really ball and chain to one woman. But this is not the way it was. No, it wasn't. But is there something wrong to be ball and chain to one woman? Not when it's you, sweetheart. I love it, baby. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're right, though. You're right, though. You're right, though. You're right, though. The time's changing. I'm able to deal with it. I used to want to have, like, multiple women. I just want to see who my kids are like in different races, you know? But now that I'm more mature, I understand that behind every strong man is a strong woman. So you should bury that. Where did that thought process come from when you were a kid? Man, it was like growing up, that's what you've seen. People have multiple baby mamas. But if that's all you've seen, that's all you know. But as I got more exposure and started seeing how real families operate with marriage and having a family and how that affects the kid growing up, that's what I want to do. I want to get married and have a kid. So it's this function in the family as in traditional sin, as in what you see around you is what you eventually end up wanting to do. But then how does TV impact on that? Because some people see, you know, like a perfect family, so to say, on TV and strive for that. Does TV impact your mental thinking? To be honest with you, I really don't watch too much TV. Even as a child growing up? I didn't watch TV. Oh, okay. I didn't have cable. So I was always outside. Yeah, so when I was born, my mom, I wouldn't live with my mom. I lived with my family. And in that family house, it was like, we lived in O'Hickory Trail in the Cliffs, so it was like a two-bedroom apartment, like 12 of us in there. Because she got kids and then it's us, me and my sisters in there. Then it's my auntie and her kids. And we all in there. It's a lot of kids in there. So she was the candy house lady. So everybody coming to the house and we all outside playing. So that was just fun to you as a kid? That was just fun to me. So my uncles and them, they put us in boxing clubs. We outside fighting in boxing clubs playing throwback tackle. Like we ain't in the house watching TV. That was a must. Get out this house. Why y'all in this house? Stop all that running and out. We outside from in the morning to at night time. We ain't coming in. So why didn't you live with your mom? She was in jail at the time. Okay. How old was she in jail for? Honestly, don't remember. But when she did get out, we had moved to Nashville. So I moved to Nashville to see for like six years. How old were you? That was like fifth grade. So I'll probably say about, you 12 and fifth grade? Yeah, about 12 years old. So then that's when you started living with her? Yeah. Nah, you 12. You flunked a couple of times. I mean, I wouldn't even know how old I was in fifth grade. But I'm just saying. I hope I went 12 in the first place. I don't think I was 12 in the first place. Nah, you wouldn't know. Probably about 10. You about 10. You about 10, about 10. I moved my mom in there. So did your dad play a part in your life at all? Oh yeah. I knew what my dad was. I visited him sometimes. He come and stop by and see me and stuff. Okay. But I really didn't have a relationship with my dad like that in the beginning. But now me and my dad are like best friends. I'm with him all the time. I talk to him. And he has played an impact on my thought process. And it kind of played into the right part. So then my dad started getting a good relationship when I was in high school. How did you bridge that gap? What happened? So let me tell you how it all happened. One day I got in trouble at school. My mama couldn't come up there. So my dad, my mama put his name on an important call list. So when I got in trouble, he came up there. He came up there and janked me up around in the class. I'm like, nigga. So they know you, nigga. But I needed that though. Because that action showed me a lot. You know what I'm saying? That somebody's there to care for me. And like make sure I'm on the right track. So after that, man, me and my pop started topping it up. He started seeing about how I'm doing and what I'm trying to do when I graduate and stuff like this. So we started being in a relationship because my dad is like real cool. He real business like in the mind frame. And that's where I get a lot of my leadership skills from my pops. And to me, it shows like, because if your mom had came and did the same exact thing that your dad did that day, it wouldn't be the same effect because it's just something about a man doing, trying to reprimand a son compared to a woman trying to do it. It just won't work the same way. No, it won't work the same way. But I love my momma for the way she raised me though. Man, what you talking? Man, I mean, yeah, jail and all, nigga. Let me tell you something. My momma went to jail. She beat up. I ain't gonna say a name. I don't want to mess up. R.P. to my mom, but she had a whoop one and she ended up going to jail. And I get it. You know what I'm saying? And when she came out, nigga, I was still strong. So I get it, bro. I mean, I can't go to the extent to what you did, but yeah, I understand. So when you think about just being, going through all of that, who drove you to put education first? Because you had to put education first at some point. No. You didn't? Did you go to college? Yeah, I went to college. I was a big into education, man. I knew I graduated high school at 1.9 GPA. I didn't even know what college was, man. My father and my mom didn't even graduate high school. So how did you end up putting, somebody had to come in your life? Somebody had to say something. We only know what we learned. You know, so like, let's, let's fast. Let's live for one. So in high school, like my senior year is like two months left before graduation. My guidance counselor was like, you don't go to school. I'm like, I'm going to go to the military or something. I really just saying something to get off my back. I really didn't, I wouldn't go to the military either, but I was like, I'm going to go to the military. She's like, nah, I want you to go to this HBCU. I said, what's HBCU? She's like, it's a black college. I'm like, okay, for sure. Let's do it. Because she had went there. So it was her. No, but come to find out, my auntie went to TSU too. Okay. I didn't know that until I went home. It was like, hey, I'm thinking about going to college. I'm thinking about going to TSU. She's like, oh, I went there. I'm a graduate of TX or something. And I was like, okay, let's do it then. They got me excited to go back to school and like, I'm going to go ahead and apply for TSU. So my guidance counselor helped me access the application. And my auntie did the rest of the work. She, uh, make sure I got my transcript over there. Make sure I went to orientation. My mama drove me down to orientation and I went one time. My pops drove me the next time for orientation in. That's when I was sold on TSU. That's the only school I applied for. They was proud of you. Not for sure. Had to be. For sure. Because all the stuff that they went through to see you still pressing on like that. I see that you graduated when they didn't. Thanks. That's dope, man. That's big, yeah. Like that's the part where I tell you, God got an ultimate plan for us. Thanks. And I'm glad to have him because I was able to inspire my pops, my pops getting his college degree now. My mom getting her college degree now. It's all about the inspiration. Are any of your other siblings doing the same? One of my siblings on my dad's side graduated college. She graduated UNT and my sisters, they didn't go to college. They graduated high school though. Okay, that's good. It's just dope to see how things can evolve. You can't never put somebody in a closed space and act like things can't change. That's the part I love about the God I serve. You know what I mean? Like, you just keep going through phases. And a lot of people talk about the Bible a lot. And I get it. And I know y'all think the white man wrote it. I urge you. But at the end of the day, when you start looking at all the stories and how they transpire in there, you start to see these waves in life where you see David as he was a kid and he was taking care of the sheep. And then you see him as he's pretty much anointed king. And then you see him beat Goliath. And then you just see all these transformations. Then you go into all the different stages of life that he, you know what I mean, went through. So you read about these things and then you start to look at your life and then you be like, man, I can see how he went there. You're just brushing up. You know what I mean? So I like the evolution of how life transcends, you know, as you keep going. What do you think? I definitely agree with you. It's dope. Yeah. Different opportunities open from different aspects of your life. So you close one chapter, go to the next. And that chapter might open another opportunity. And that opportunity might open another opportunity. So it's different phases and different struggles and different sacrifices you've got to make in each chapter in order to be successful. So it comes that man go. So what was the height of you going to college and then what was the low of you being at college? Going to college, moving out of Dallas really was like a shock to me because I never lived without like my parents or my family because I was with them. So going out to college, man, it was new. So me going there, I knew I had to get my mind right for one and start making the right decisions. But I never had that right guidance as far where to make the right decisions. What to do, where to go. So when I got there, I met a lot of good people. I met a lot of good friends. But I met one guy which is now one of my business partner. His name is Malik. I met him because I ran for Mr. Freshman. He was an S.J., something called Student Government Association. So I ran for Mr. Freshman. I won. And I was flashed. You come from Dallas, you know everybody in Dallas they were in grills, chains, diamonds. Mm-hmm, keep going. Chains, diamonds, grills. So he was like, nah, you got to turn that down, man. You're a college student now. It's time to change your appearance and how people look at you. So he's like, I'm gonna give you a suit. He took me to get my first suit. So that was all she wrote. I got in the suit. I was like, oh, it is me. This feel like me right here. And then I got to see like the response. The response how people treat you when you're in a suit compared to when you're not. Right. How they look at you from any race. Right. Any race. I was going doing stuff that people wasn't doing because I had a suit on just because they looked at you. What was the first thing you did when you got a suit on? Took a picture. That's real. Got a Instagram. That's real. Showing my suit on. Like yo, you see it. You see it. But didn't even know how to put the suit on. I didn't even know. Did you know how to tie a tie? I didn't. I had a bow tie on. I had my prom bow tie on. So I was like, he's like, nah, you gonna take that off. We gonna teach you how to tie a tie. You gotta have cuff links. You gotta know how to put the pocket square in the pocket. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know how to do all that. I just had a suit on. I ain't even had the right stuff on with the suit. Do you remember what brand was the first brand you bought? That's K&G suit. Oh, okay. That's still good? Ain't no, I don't trip on suits. I put it on. If it look good, hey, I put it on. Exactly. No matter what the brand is, I'm gonna wear it. See, yeah, some people who are really into suits, they're like, oh, I don't wear nothing, but this because just the tailor shape of the suit is like no other. Right. Custom suits. That's when you get into the suit. You know, it's custom. Yes. It's general. So that's your height of being in college. So what would you say, because everybody has a low time, something that really just like puts you, whether in depression or something that gave you a stumbling block, what was that time for you in college? When they disqualified me for running for S.J. President. That was my junior year, man. I really had put my heart into it. Like from first year, I already knew I wanted to be S.J. President when I became a junior. Mm-hmm. So it becomes that time to where now it's like, it's time for you to run. I didn't put the work in. I didn't put the leg work in. The students messing with me. Everybody liked me on the campus. Like a good atmosphere around me. And it comes that time, man. Politics coming to part. So they disqualified me my junior, but I won my senior. So I wasn't tripping, but I feel like my junior, that was the right time I had to energy. Like I was like, I'm here like, this is my plan, this is what I'm about to do. But it wasn't in God's plan. It's what I wanted, but that's what God did. How did you deal with that disqualification? I know you said you were angry, but what did you do? I ran for another position. Okay. So you didn't let it stop you? Never. Okay. Ain't nothing stopping it. Ain't nothing stopping this motion. This motion got to keep going. I said in the cabinet, it was another president that I was originally supposed to run again before they disqualified me. I sat on his cabinet and still worked. That's what it takes, man. It takes always putting in that extra effort going the extra mile. The one who don't, if you don't go the extra mile, you're not going to get nothing. I could have easily said, man, I'm going to go, I'm going to do something else on campus, but nah, I won it. If you want something, you're going to keep going, no matter what's in the way. When did you discover your passion for what you're doing today? As far as the clothes. I wanted to get into it, but I want to get into the name and all that good stuff. So I agree. But when did you find that passion? Yeah, what? Entrepreneurship? I always been a get-money nigga. Yeah. I always been a get-money nigga where it is, in the right way or the wrong way. I like money. Niggas in the streets. I like... Niggas big-time dope over there. It's Oak Cliff. Niggas in Oak Cliff. Niggas sell dope over there. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, nah. We ain't going to say all that. Nah, nah, nah, man. We just kidding now. You know how y'all be doing. We begging you for forgiveness. But nah, I like the fact. I'm a nigga that like money too. So I understand. So I can tell you like that quality. So when did you know like, nigga, I got to have the best of everything. When was that? Because nigga, I'm looking at you. You like to be clean. I see your shoes. Niggas like you better go to space when you leave here. You know what I'm saying? So when was it that, what made, when did you know that I had a stain for fashion? You know what I'm saying? I had a stain for fashion as a kid. Hey, this is a true story. So my first outfit came from my pops. Like the first outfit I really liked. He bought me a Jordan jersey. He bought me some dickies, some khaki dickies, and I had some All Black Reeboks. I wore the outfit like every day of the week. I turned my drawers inside out because like they didn't get washed on time. Like you know what I'm saying? I'm making sure everything right on this fit. I'm making sure that them dickies earned every day. And I wear that fit every day. Like every day of the week in the neighborhood. They didn't tease you? No. We're gonna fight. What you mean? This, this, this squad right here came from fighting. Hey, R.P. My boy Trayvon, man. Trayvon, who was Trayvon? He gave you that. Yeah. We fighting in, we fighting in Birdie. What happened? How did, how did he pass away? He got shot. Somebody in Oak Cliff? Mm-hmm. At a party. Wow. Back in high school. Back in high school. And, and so you and him were like best friends or? Yeah. His whole family was talking about family who lived in Oak Cliff. Wow. They was like, they was like my neighbors. They both lived in, we all lived in Oak Hickory. We used to go, I used to go to this house. He's kind of my house. My sister played with his sister. His sister played with my sister. But did he, did he, did you, were you with him that night? No, I wasn't. Okay. That's a good thing. We went to different high schools. I had went to the, I was at the soda at the time. Okay. And I'm pretty sure, I don't know what school he was at in high school, but I just know he's at the wrong place at the wrong time. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And that's the way it happened a lot of times at house parties and whatnot, man. And my friends go up to his family. Push show, man. Shout out to his family, man. Hey, man, we praying for everybody who's still here who we can, you know, send some great blessings of. Thanks. But let's get back to the clothing, man. Like, so let's talk about the brand. Okay. The name of the brand. Okay. How did you come up with it? Let everybody know what it is. Okay. Because I don't want to mess it up. I will do. Right? Right. What you got? So Hupay official, it's a French word, it stands for upper class. Okay. It took us, me and my business partner, but it took us a minute to come up with the name. We all, he dresses too. I dress too. So we in the fashion, like our whole life, all we did was like, who going to put the best fit on? Even in college, he was at UTSA on the scholarship playing football. He like, yeah, I'm still putting that, I'm putting that on. I'm still putting that on. And I made tears. You don't still put it on. Like we, you know, we competing. So we like real brothers, we grew up together. So it was like, man, we were all this, we spent all this money on clothes. I'm going to start making our own stuff. And it's crazy because Hupay like, when I started making it, I would, me and him was the only one wearing it. And people was like, what y'all got on? You know what I'm saying? We was like, oh, this is our brand. We were just making it for us. You know, just different fashion pieces that we like to see how said word. So like everything I put out and we put out, we word. You know what I'm saying? We not going to put out anything that we wouldn't personally word. So what I see now is that how it started out? Looking just like that. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'll say some loud-a-man jackets at first. How did, how was the first pieces? It started from the drop. It started from the drop. It started from hats and t-shirts. Okay. So were you pressing your own stuff? We never did press on. We always did print it. I mean, not print it. We did stitch. Stitch. So you always got it embroidered on it. Right. So you embroidered a name on it. Right. Okay. So it goes all the way back to the college days. So we always knew we wanted to create a brand. When we graduated, it was like, we always been talking about it, so let's do it. So a couple months out of college, we found a name. He was like, he'll pay. Like, yeah, I like that. I was like, what does it mean? He told me the name. I was like, what does that mean? So he said the definition of it means over class. So I was like, yeah, we're going to rock with that. I like that. It's different. So I got a logo made. That was the first thing we bought was a logo. We had to think of a logo. That was the hardest part coming over the logo. So I had one of my good friends, Cindy Pearson. She does digital design. And she designed a logo for us. We was like, that's the one. That's what we want. So we ran with it. There had been a logo from the jump. When we got the logo, we started thinking like, we can't put this logo on everything. So we need to come out with a different front. That's how we came with the HEPA official. And we put that on our hats and our t-shirts to come out in the beginning. So that's what we started with selling t-shirts and hats. And how did that happen? When did you see a peak on that? So me and Kirk, we don't take money from the business. We let the money build up in a bit. That money builds up and buys the new designs that we want to create. So with that being said, all the t-shirts and shirts we sold, they built up to get us to this point to where we are now. Yeah, yeah. And so the t-shirts, are they core brands? Do they come back every year? Or is it just you do different ones every time? Different ones every time. Really? There's no core brand. When I say core, one that comes back to where, like we've been selling clothes for years. And there's always a core selection. Your original style. That original one, that's going to be the money at the end of the day too. You could bring it back and be like, damn, this is the first one we ever done. That's what I'm talking about. Well, we haven't got a core t-shirt yet, because we're still elevating. And right now, this is our core piece. That ain't dope. How long y'all been had, because y'all had different styles, how long y'all been doing this all together? About a year now. That's dope, man. A year now. Getting to it, man. A year now. This year in, really. And the people that I'm seeing wearing these clothes, bro, how you putting these clothes on these dang actors, man? Shout out to the people that's around me, man. None of this is done by myself. I want to give congratulations and props to them. I want to give props to everybody that's around me. My friends, my family, because my friends and family, and people that's around me on Instagram, they see what I'm doing. People respect the ground. They see you doing something, chasing your dreams. People want to support that. So I got people that call me like, hey, I got so-and-so coming in the city. Hey, I want you to pull up and give me some merch. I didn't ask him to do that. He personally called me, and hey, I see what you're doing. I support it. Let's pull up and give him some merch. And I 100% appreciate that, because without him or that person, I wouldn't be in that position to deliver that merch. That's it. That's it. So how good does it make you feel to see different people, NLE chopper, different celebrities that I've seen holding your brand up? What does that do for you? Let me feel good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's me and my business partner. My business partner feel good as well. So I was not going to take all that pretty. He didn't, huh? Yeah, man. Yeah, that nigga didn't shop. He had work. He had work. I don't think I know he didn't come on boss talk. He missed a big thing. No, he had work. It's a huge opportunity here. No, it's not a fact. It is. But what I want to know about that, because sometimes you can always place shirts or place placements on all these celebrities. But how does that impact your sales? Have you seen your sales go up since you've been placing, you know? Tremendously. They go up because of the celebrities, of course, and who listens to the celebrities and the impact that the celebrities have. But, man, Kirk, we do groundwork. We, on everybody's Instagram, they say they want some merch. I screenshot the DM. So when we drop a new merch, I personally DM or he personally DM. So we constantly running. Like we constantly going. We're not afraid to reach out to people. We're not afraid to go to schools and get out on streets and go to clubs and meet these individuals that we want to potentially, want them to potentially become customers. We go out and interact with the people like, hey, this is our brand. This is what we bring in our next. We'd love for you to support. How often do you come out with new designs? Every other month. We constantly drawing up designs. It's just a matter of picking which design might come next. We always keep some stuff in the vault. That's always going to be there. Okay, that's good. But sometimes don't you think that you can, cause like on bigger brands, they drop quarterly, not every month. No, we don't drop every month. We got new designs. But how often do you come out with new designs as in like production, giving it out for people to see it? I would say quarterly as well. Is it quarterly? Because I push, we push one item at a time. Like right now we pushing these hoodies. It's been our best selling product that we had since we, since brand started. Since brand started. That's cool. How many pieces have you sold? I can't even keep a count. I can't even keep count of how many pieces we sold. I didn't travel so many places and deliver pieces and shipped off pieces. It's not just a Texas thing. This is global. Like people in Jamaica, like I really don't know. Like we really can't tell you a number of hoodies that sold. You need to keep a database. That's right. Showing, so when you look, you always want to look at numbers. Just like example, when we watch Shark Tank and whatever, the first thing to ask you about is numbers. How much did you make last month? How much did you make last year? How much are you projected to make next year? A lot of times I see that I'm like, we all as business people need to know that. We don't ever always do, but that's just a basis of what we should do as business people. If you're not doing that, you need to get on your game to do it. I definitely agree with you. We definitely need to get in that lab and make sure we keep track of these numbers. Because in order for you to know where you're going, you got to set that goal. This is how much I want to make next year. And not just throwing a number. It's like, oh, I want to make this amount. Okay, no. If I produce this amount, you calculate last year, this is how much I made. Do something that's realistic. So they're not asking them how much they want to make. How much are you projected to make according to what you made last year? Right. And how much money you have now to be able to produce, merchandise to be able to make this? Right. I definitely agree with you on that piece. Well, you really can tell him so much, but then he still stands there. He got to do it himself. He's standing in the picture with Lance Gross. He doing his thing. You know what I'm saying? But I got it going on. It's hard to talk to the young folk when they got stuff going. The man is an entrepreneur. He got a lot of businesses. Really, he'll listen to you. But he got his own business. I'll listen. I'll listen. No, I know. We're old niggas. You y'all in the new lane. That's the best advice, though, coming from our elders. That's it. Oh, I'm an elder now. Not an elder, but I'm saying. You live longer than me. You live longer than me. So you didn't experience more things. No, you're right, man. But it's dope just the way. So what's the price point on those things, man? Right now it's going for 100. Right now it's going for 100. That's a good price. Right now it's going up. And the reason I started off like this is because I want everybody to be able to afford what we're selling. It's not about the price right now. We're doing that out of love. We're doing it to see young minorities and people across the world just want to support the brand. No matter what class you in. You could be upper class, middle class, lower class. You're able to afford this. You know what I'm saying? So who knows what the price might be in a couple months? How many pieces do you get made? Every time? Every time. Like on this order, did you have to like contact them back because it started flying off the shelf and like I need another order? Right, so our original first order of these hoodies was just 30. We only dropped one color way. That was like the cream and orange. That was our first original piece. That was so, as soon as we brought it in. So the order 30 was like ooh. So how many did you order the second time? 500 plus. Wow. And that was all how many colors? That's some pre-orders. So the first time we was only doing Just the one color. One color. The second time how many colors did you add to it? The second time we did the cream and orange. So I had released the sweater as well with it. The black sweater with all the different colors in it. The ones you see Bootsy wearing. That was another fire piece that we released. So that was one of our best sellers as well. We just ain't bringing that back right now. We gonna wait. But the second time we ordered the cream and orange, that one was 500 plus because we did pre-orders. So the way we break it down, we was taking pre-orders. There's people that's already guaranteed buying the sweater before it gets here. But when they do pre-orders and they order it, how long before the merch actually dropped where they can get it? And how long before do they have to pre-order it? They just pre-order it. So I send a DM to everybody that said they like the hoodie. And they pre-order it. People will see it on my Instagram. I'm like how long to order this? I order. I take a week of order. So I do like I start on a Monday and Friday I'm gonna submit the order. Okay. And then how long before they get the merchandise? Three weeks. Because it's coming from Pakistan. My manufacturer in Pakistan. So it's gonna take three weeks to get here. Process the order. Get everything on their boarding machines and send it over. Okay. And what's your markup looking like? Who? Your markup. What does that mean? Like, okay. You know how much you pay for it. You know how much you sell for it. What's your markup on your product? It's a double the price. Double the price. Straight for the price. You don't have to tell so you can. If you don't want it, you know it's up to you, man. Yeah, it's up to you. Because she'll get you in trouble. I ain't gonna get you in trouble because most... Okay. I give everybody a game, but you know... Oh, yeah. Most merch. Most merch is usually double. Some people triple. But most merch is normally double. So even like whenever you go to any stores like, you know, people don't ever know that. But when you go to stores to buy stuff, you know, so you get it for 100 bucks. Normally they pay $50 for it. That's true. That's normally. Right. You have some places that be like get it for the low low and then still sell it for like high. You know, so it just depends. Now, we ain't getting it low because there's a lot of quality. Like you can feel it's the quality in there. So really we taking the ill because we got to ship it out. Ship it. We didn't even charge you for shipping. We just shipping it out to you. And you pay for shipping for them to ship it to you. Right. Out of the money, out of the $100. All right, nigga. Y'all need a business partner. I need some of that new action. We going up tomorrow. Today's price is... Not today's price. It's going up. It's going up. It's going up. It's going up. It's going up. No, it's going up. It's going to be probably around about $300 a dollar. I ain't going to lie to you. And we can take it there. We can take it there. From what I just see in what you have. And we would probably... The core people who've been buying. Yeah, we'll let them win a little. But we'll open up a store and we would have nothing but... Is it Hubei? Hubei, yes sir. Yeah, Hubei. And that's what we would do because at the end of the day, that thing is... That thing is fire. Man, I appreciate your respect. And I know... And I know because I sell clothes and I've been selling clothes for a long time. 16 years? No, longer than that. I was in the truck for a while. I even got a stove. So about 18? Yeah. 16? Yeah, 18. Close to it. 16, 17. I said 16, you told me no. Maybe 17. You were close. You've been with me. You know what I'm saying? But no. I know that that looks great, man. I don't have to see booze seeing it. I don't have to see NL chopping it. No cap, none of that. I'm looking at a nigga. I do clothes. I do. And I like what you've got on. But the only thing I think about when I look at that sweater is the fact that I can see any race wear it. That's right. It doesn't look like... Oh, because, you know, running a store out here, oh, is that black people clothes or is that white people clothes? That's how they talk. That's how people talk. But I can see that's like a multicultural. Anybody can wear that. And it's unisex. I feel comfortable. It's multicultural and it's unisex. Male and female wear this jacket. That's dope. And, you know, we have Caucasians wearing it as well. Have you looked into the cost of maybe buying your own embroidered machine and doing it yourself? Will it cut your cost where it wouldn't be paying that much maybe for the product rather than get it from? Well, me and Kirk personally, we have other business ventures. So we have to develop a whole team to get to that point. But that's not something that we're against. Yeah. But he did bring it up like, hey, we do need to get a machine and start making our own product. I'm like, hey, who got the time? Right now. We don't have the time. But you can hire people. But it just depends on when you work, max out the numbers. Is it beneficial for you to do that or a stake where you're at? It's better to get our own machine and do it. But it saves us time by going through the manufacturer because when we first started, we was doing T-shirts and hats. But we was driving personally to Harry Hines, to the stitching person, back to Harry Hines to get more, to send it off to the UPS office. That was driving us crazy because we all got other stuff going on. So when we found the manufacturer to do everything, it made it more simpler to save us more time and gas and money because they just shipped the product to the house and we just shipped it out. How did you find that manufacturer? On Alibaba. Alibaba, they have many manufacturers on there. Okay. I mean, everybody should know that. I don't have a problem getting that free game. Yeah, because some people do know that but not everybody. So it's just trying to help people out here who are trying to figure out how to start their own brand. And I'm all about helping. I give out free game all the time. Many entrepreneurs hit me up daily and I constantly, I get on the same resource as I got. So if they hit you up, they can find out information from you? Of course. Where can they find you? On Instagram at D Markets Nash. D Markets Nash. Yes, ma'am. And I give out free game all the time. I go to colleges, high schools, elementary. I go talk to my green students all the time. Like, hey, I'm pushing entrepreneurship to these elementary students at all times. Hey, live your dreams. You like sneakers? Find out how to make your own sneakers. Sell it to your peers right now. You like selling drinks? Go make a lemonade stand. I'm pushing that. 100% my nephew and niece, they already know about entrepreneurship. What's called? Tooty Raw. How did you get him to wear that in that video? You're a boosted son. Right. How did y'all make that happen? I honestly didn't tell him to wear it in the video. That's how I know it was so dope. That's how I know the piece was so dope it spoke for itself. He's like, I'm gonna put this in the video. Because I honestly didn't tell Tooty Raw to put it on in the video. How did you get it to him? Well, one of my good friends, Bryce Carpenter, he's a sports agent. He's real connected with Boosie. He's like, man, that's shit dope. I don't want to get that to Boosie. I'm like, okay, bet I'm gonna give you a couple pieces. Take it down there. So he took it down there and Boosie and him loved it. And Tooty's seen the piece that Boosie had and he was like, I'm gonna put that on the video. Man, he rocking that whole thing. He is. He put it on. He put it on. Dancing and everything. He had a good time in that video. He put it on. He put it on. He know that thing. It's y'all. No, it's y'all. So have you met him? Tooty? Yeah. I never met Tooty personally. Never met Tooty? Boosie either? No, I met Boosie before. How's that conversation when you and him met up about the clothing? Have y'all ever talked like about it? No, we haven't. Never talked to him about it? Never talked to him about it. But he just ordered it. Yeah. Did he remember you? Or did you just wanted him to have it? I just wanted him to have the piece. You wanted to make sure he got it? I wanted to make sure he had the piece. Why? Growing up, I listened to Webby and Boosie all the time. Which one? Savage Life or what did you listen to? Savage Life. All of them. All of them. Get off the way. All of them wiped me down that y'all done stole from and don't want him to do the dance. Man, we love it. We grew up on Webby and Boosie. We grew up on Webby and Boosie. We grew up on Webby and Boosie. We grew up on Webby and Boosie. I know you and that. I ain't going to call it a game. That's a rarity. Not fraternity. Well, all that's the same to me. Because I'm old. I get to get away with it. But fraternity. Right. Okay. And he wore the shirt. I got to ask you because you wanted the members. And I know this happened a while back. And how did y'all squash that beef? I can't answer that question. He's like, I don't know. I can't answer that question. I honestly don't know. You don't know? I honestly don't know. You don't know? I honestly don't know. What did you think when you first saw him? Oh, man. Because I got checked by a couple of people. I told you that on fair. But how did you feel when you seen him wearing that sweater and sitting on the front, right there on the front edge and he didn't go through nothing that y'all went through? How did you feel? He was a little personal. What did you say? Damn. I said, damn. That's my boy, too. That's my boy, too. I ain't done anything to do that. I ain't done anything to do that, man. What did you do? Let's talk about it just for a second. I know you didn't want to talk about it because you were in your clothes. But did you like, damn, man. That's my boy, man. And I'm from the south. That's what I said. Because I knew the reaction was going to get. I knew it was going to get. I like, fuck. No, for real. Because it takes a lot to put that shirt on. Yeah. People earn it. So do you think he wasn't just thinking about it like that? That's like me looking at you and I'm looking at your end, your end process. I'm looking at the victories that you got. I don't know the work that you took to get to that point. I'm just looking at your success. And I go and put something that you got on, that you worked hard for. You look at me like, this ain't got the audacity. Well, I'm going to be the devil's advocate, though. Y'all took the song that he all in to ask him for his song and y'all just went to doing the dance. But I'm saying what? What's the song that y'all got to do with that shirt? That's his song. We dance a lot of songs. No, we put the work in for that song. He put the work in for that song. That's his song. Like if y'all was going to take it and just push it through a whole, what do you call it, fraternity, and then even ask him, don't you think that's the kind of the same thing? No, we making him money. Oh, no. He could say the same thing. We making him money. Yeah, but he could say the same thing about the shirt when he put it on. He making y'all money. He can. He is. He inspired a lot of young youth to go to college and want to become capers. That's right. So, I think it's a touch of situation. All right. I think it's dope, but I know what y'all stand for as far as community and just helping to try to build business owners in college. You know what I mean? Gord's and P. Push and achievement. Yeah, y'all. I love it, man. But I don't think Boosie had no wrong intentions. No, he didn't. I don't think he had wrong intentions. He wasn't disrespectful. In his brain, it wasn't. In his mind, it wasn't him being disrespectful about it. Did y'all give him a pass on it? I can't say all that. I can't speak on it. I can't speak on it because I really don't know about it. You don't know about it. I don't know about it. But he ain't what? No more. I can't speak on some situations I don't know about. Did y'all still do the dance? We still do the dance. On his music? On his music. Aw, dang, man. Y'all running things, man. I'm Boosie. What's up, baby? You see how they talking in there? No. So, no, I love to see y'all, y'all, black brothers, man, accomplishing what you guys accomplishing and then Boosie was important in your brand, man. And not only Boosie, no cap. What's up? Who all done been... That's gross. That's gross for sure. He's one of y'all brothers, right? Yeah, he is. Okay. He a great brother, man. I really... It really don't matter to me about the celebrities. I really care about the people that's wearing it every day. No, I did it. But these guys are... They like you. They went through a lot and they brought themselves up to be on the celebrity status. Right. But they only do that when they get paid to do that and they just totally just do it off the strength. Off the strength. That gotta mean something else, bro. No, I do. They really speak a lot for my brand, though, and really speak a lot to me and my business partner. That makes us feel good, though, to know that we've created a piece out of our brain and people actually want to wear it. We're not asking people, like, hey, put this on, do this. People actually saying, like, hey, that's a nice piece. That's a nice piece. I really like it. Yeah. That means a lot to us. No, man. So, man, hey, man, what else you want to ask you? Do you listen to music? Do you listen to music? Yeah, I listen to music. What do you like? I like old-school music. I like soothing music. Really? Yeah. I like some, like, Kim, you know, like James Brown. You ever seen Kim? You ever seen Kim lie? No, I haven't. Me and my wife would see him lie a few times, right? Mm-hmm. They go hard. Great artist. They go hard, man. I would listen to the line because it'd be so smooth, you know? Like, when you're talking to them women, you want to talk to them, you know? You gotta know what you're doing. You gotta know what the conversation like. So, I definitely like listen to old-school music because it gave me that vibe of, like, how they used to speak to women back in the days. It's different how you speak to women now. Yeah. Wait a minute. Let's get these shirts up here, man, because you done brought us something. I see. Man, I just appreciate you, man, for coming on the show, man. What's going on, man? I bought you something. What? You gotta put you in that Hue pay, man. What, man? Come on, man. No, man, I'm gonna cry, man. Don't do this, man. You gotta put you in that Hue pay, man. Don't do this, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Man, woo, I'm gonna wear this thing, man. This is the same color as my old-school. Y'all niggas in trouble. Oh, man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. No problem, no problem, no problem. Man, y'all better understand, man. We didn't got, hey, we didn't got pimped up in there today, y'all. Didn't got me feeling good. I don't know what's going on. I feel some type of weight. Get the designer you rocking Hue pay. Hey, you rapping now? No, for real. Put me in the booth. Man, thank you so much, man. It's so comfortable, man. It feels so soft, man. Almost like a blanket, nigga. I feel like I want to go home and go to sleep now, man. No, for real. I get sleep in the car and I got to learn, you know what I'm saying? I be sleepin' out. It's so comfortable, dawg. No, for real. Man, I'm fit to have this. Man, thank you so much, bro. You know, like, you give me something. I know I'm gonna wear this thing. You know I'm gonna steal that blue, dawg. No, you're not. No, you're not. Are you serious? You can have the black one. No, I'm not. This is my car color. That's all right. I'll drive the car and I can wear the shirt. No, I'm not driving my car now, man. You don't do that now. Got to. But I'm gonna do it better than all the other niggas. That's just gross. N.L.E. chopper, boozey. You niggas in trouble. That nigga gave me a shirt. Watch how I do y'all with my car, though, nigga. And if you got an old-school nigga, pull up, nigga. No, for real. You know what I'm saying? Thank you so much, man, for coming on this show, man. Top three artists of all time did or lie. You put me on the spot like that? Yeah. I do every... Everybody come on here to answer that. Top three, number one. In general, did or lie. Oh, in general. In general. Number one, I'm going. Someone I look up to, Jay-Z. Jay-Z? You feel to get off my pillow, man. Who number two? Say Drizzy. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. That sound all coming. We've heard these before. Number three. Somebody that's influenced the game. I say Future. You better have to say somebody from the south, nigga. I feel to get you up out of here. Future. You know what I'm saying? He got an impact on the game when he came in. No, no. I think your choice is fit, man. I mean, your age bracket and where you at. I could understand that definitely. You know what I'm saying? Jay-Z are entrepreneurs and you are entrepreneurs. So it fit. All right. Man. Any other business ventures that we forgot to talk about on here? Yeah. I have business partners in the truck industry. Okay. Let's talk about that. I knew that, but I didn't want you to bring it out. For sure. You want to know how I came about? Yes, yes. For sure. Okay. So me and my business partners from college. Me and Malik, they now are engaged. They just got engaged last week. Congratulations to them. Congratulations. The business won't be where it be today. Wow. But I want to say we have a trucking business and we started in college. We didn't know what business we wanted to invest in or start, but we knew we wanted to create a business because we all were entrepreneurs. So we had our money saved up and when a pandemic came, we noticed people get laid off, jobs were closing, people weren't making any money. It's like, well, what's moving? We're on the highway. We see trucks. So that's something that never stops, which is transportation. And that's where we invested our money and we said, we're going to start a trucking company. When did that start? December. December? Yes, ma'am. And how it's been going? Great. That's good. Going wonderful. How many trucks do y'all have? We have three right now. Three? Okay. Three. So you started off with three from the rest? We started off with one. Okay. So how quick before you bought the next one? A few months. So it was going that quick, that good? It was going good. We're about working. We're going to do something. We're going to do it the right way. How did you find the drivers? Family members. Well, to start off, I'm not going to sit here and say that. Yeah, because you just buy the truck. So when you buy a truck, how do you get in the game of, you know, until you go to who? So... How does it work? Some of my family members have trucks. Okay. Some of my business partner family members have trucks. So it's not like we jumped in the lane we didn't know about. We got people in that lane that's giving advice, telling us and guiding us the right way, and which way we need to know. And like, what things to look out for on the driver and things like this. So that's how we're able to make the impact that we've made so far by the people that surround us. So, okay. No, because I was just thinking like, because I know nothing about trucking, so if I wanted to invest my money and go buy a truck and I went and found one that's on sale or whatever, a really good truck, somebody's selling it, and I said, okay, I'm going to buy this truck. How do I put my truck to use? Like, do I contact a trucking company and say, hey, I got a truck, I need to put it to some use, or do I just get a truck driver? Like, what steps do I take in trying to make this, make me some money back? All right. So first, when you're looking at a truck, you want to have somebody that buys trucks that you know so they can go with you in order to tell you what to look out on a truck that's bad on a truck. So we did that. That was the first process. When we got the truck, we bought it, and then we found the driver, which is one of my business partners' fathers. And he drove for us and got us on the ground running. Much respect to him as well. And from that point on, it was just... How did you find the company that's going... So you can start pulling that merchandise? Oh, low boards. Okay. So you do low boards. And on a low board, it's different lows that you can access and be it for and say you want to run for and you can accept it or not. Okay. I didn't know. That's how I was trying to forget to... That's how people find their lows off low boards. Okay. That's good. Thank you. No problem. So I want to go back to the clothes one more time. I just want to talk about the pants for the ladies. Are you still doing those? The stack joggers? Yeah. Right now, we currently creating a different design. Okay. Also, the stack joggers. And they're wearing that shirt, that sweater that Boosie wearing. How'd y'all come up with that design? And it looks different from what you're wearing now. Right. It's the block sweater. Yeah, it's the block sweater he's talking about. That was the design I seen online. And I was like, man, that'd be dope if we put He-Pay on it. So I contacted the manufacturer. I was like, hey, I got a design in mind I want to do. I like the way the sweater concept is, but I want to put my own twist to it. And they was like, okay, let's do it. So I drew it up and sent it to them. They was like, yeah, we can do it. I said, let's do it. Wow. Dope, man. Hey, man, thank you so much, man. Definitely appreciate you for coming on our show. Blessing us. We ask you to anytime you got something new coming out, make sure you get ahold of us. Also, is any stores carrying this brand right now? No stores are carrying it. So is it exclusive or could I get it in my store? Been here for 15 years. You can get it in your store. I'm black on business. For sure. We'll be able to tell people that they can come over here because I love this brand. For sure. And I'm trying to do people, brands that's actually, you know, that's connected to us now. Right. Trying to do things to where I can make this make sense for us. We've been doing this a long time and we put a lot of money into a lot of people's pocket. I want to put some money back into our people's pockets. Let's do it. You know what I mean? Let's do it. So that's what I want to do. For sure. So if me and you can set up something like that, I'd appreciate it. I can't tell you, we've stood the test of time. We've had actually up to seven stores in various times, but this is the one we're doing now and we're making waves. So I definitely want to set up somewhere where I can have the new styles when they come out. Okay. And rock with your man and anytime somebody out there say, hey man, I need to get a sweater, you can always say, hey man, we can get there when I'm over, check with, you know, check with Unique Fashion with Boss Talk. For sure. You know what I'm saying? We can do that. Thank you so much. No problem. That's dope. Thank you for the opportunity. Oh man, we for the kill it. We for the beat. I can't be a business partner, but I can buy in a little bit too. No, for sure. Yeah. And then when they blow up, then I know I'm in. All these other stores, y'all ain't going to get the contract. I know how it goes. Right babe. Yeah, they can't get in. He sell it in Dallas. Yeah. Ah. No, I'm scared. Thank you so much, man. No, for real. Thank you. Man, it's been an honor and a pleasure. We love you, brother. Man, hey man, we got another race signal. Boss talk 101. And we're out.