 China has very old civilisation and Europe has a number of old civilisations and both of them are aware that the future of our species depend on living in harmony with the environment. Europe has had the tradition of the last 20 years of protection of the environment and China has arrived at this position through its planning process and through its civilisation as a matter of fact. So Europe and China together will lead the world in terms of cleaning up the environment and removing the threat of CO2 which is incredibly dangerous for our species at the moment. So I'm looking forward to both blocks working together to deal with this issue. I think China will be able to deal with the third world much more effectively than than the former colonisers and I think Europe will be a beacon and will get copied by a lot of developed countries such as America because there will be a lot of new technologies flowing from this green revolution and Europe is going to be is to the forefront of these at the moment being caught up by China but together we can affect a transformation in the way we make electricity the way we use energy and the amount of energy that we use. Well it's a rather philosophical construct the way it's interpreted in China. China had this series of invasions that happened over the last 200 years and where people like you know the British, the Americans, the French particularly the Japanese just invaded and slaughtered at will and their whole civilisation was brought to the brink of destruction and they regard this time as the as the century of humiliation and then along came Sun Yat-sen, Dr Sun Yat-sen and Mao Zedong and you know they achieved you know the people's product of China in 1949 and they began to realise every leader in China realises that you know to be rich is good, to be rich is powerful, to be powerful is free to determine your own future as a civilisation, as a subspecies on the planet. So this is seen, it's seen as very important to their national ability to to determine their own future and help determine the future of the world. They see you know being rich, being powerful as a necessary component of that and if they look around and if you look around history it's the it's the rich and the powerful that have dominated trade and you know political events, military events as well although China has absolutely no interest in military conquest. It prefers to live in harmony with everybody else according to the precepts of Confucius. I think it's great what has been proposed in China. First of all it's directional, they're going in this direction and China has consistently confounded the West with its ability to deliver on its promise and it's made many promises to itself. The wealth of China has increased by a factor of 15 since Deng Xiaoping set China on this on this current course. So despite a hesitant start in Shenzhen when there was only 183 trades in the first 100 days since they set up the the carbon trading scheme there and notwithstanding the fact that Chongqing has pulled out of the of the initial seven zones that were targeted, my feeling is that China will achieve what it sets out to achieve provided that it learns from lessons of its own recent past. It's there's a voluntary element in others a free market element but there's also a compulsive element to it. You should do this. This is our target, this is what we will achieve. We're going to learn from what goes on in the provinces and in the cities that's the way that's the Chinese planning methodology. It is the most democratic, it is the most profound planning methodology that I've ever read about or heard of and it goes on to today even the way they transition from one leadership group to another leadership group keeps a consistency of planning going. So if China says it's going to achieve 45 percent reduction I for one would believe that until evidence of the contrary emerges.