 Let's get this show on the roof because that phrase came from Probably circus folk or traveling performers of some sort. Let's make sure you guys can hear all this Because loud as possible That's what this video is. It's not to convince you not that I'm right Not that I have the truth. Although I think it is the truth the objective truth that we Should be living out here. Okay, so you are thinks that the objective truth to him and that's what I love about him by the way is that he He's pretty secure pretty secure in his convictions, but he's willing to admit that There is a possibility. He's wrong and I Think he's open-minded enough to Potentially recognize that if the truth Makes itself ever so apparent at some point in the future my objection to that is overall, I think his philosophy that we Come paraphrasing here, and I'm actually going to be paraphrasing Most of his stuff here. So if you haven't seen the video we belong in nature parentheses civilization is cancer I recommend go watch it I'm gonna be Responding directly to a couple of His ideas here objective truth is that we should live in the wild He thinks meaning the most meaning we can find in life will come from this Object to that by saying that in a way that's Shirking the individual's responsibility To act as a act as a Not only supporter. That's a partial role Supporter Because we were beneficiaries growing up But a What's the popular word nowadays trans transformer a trans figurative Actor figure in the civilization. I think that we the more I'm reading the more understanding that The history we are a part of the history that evolved and We're acted as the precursor to our existence right now At least all I can speak for is my society It it's composed of unfathomably complex leaps forward very I don't want to keep using the same word very Profound quantum leaps forward and ideas and Technological developments and we owe a lot to it. That's that's essentially my argument against them is that despite and I would I would I would shift his characterization of civilization as being a cancer To actually being an organism With potential bouts of cancer Although I don't think they're malignant mortal, I think they're more benign forms of cancer to continue the analogy that Right now we're in the early phases in which we can cut them out and successfully Operate on them or even a more fundamental analog analog level we could maybe act as the Pathogen destroyers in the immuno Immune system of our organization of our The organism that is our civilization so My take on it is that he wants to and again I'm paraphrasing and I would like to honestly genuinely hear his feedback on this because most of his video He admittedly said that he could talk for hours hours hours on this so I would I would love to hear his more broad scope theory on where he's going with Transforming the essence of society into more primal. I mean he's talking about Shirking removing any sort of technology beyond that which we would Be able to manufacture ourselves personally for out of wood and I mean He's not approaching it in a very practical manner, and he admittedly says that it would be existential suicide to do so because Essentially, and I agree with them. Nobody is prepared to survive in the wild the way he is suggesting we should so That's why I think that the he's leaving the specifics up to Either debate or further explanation In a future video, maybe depending on his response that he got so I would like to support him and show support for his Courage it's pretty inspiring. I think he's an inspiring figure and Yeah, I don't know how long I'm gonna make this video, but In case I don't get to it. I think he is Paradoxically, maybe ironically is better. It's the better word for his situation. Hey, I think he's living out the solution to his proposed problem with society which is That we're all slaves and we can't find any meaning in Current society the way it's structured. So we need to revert back to a primal much smaller more tribal more family-oriented way of living and thereby Getting a lot more meaning because we'll have less Obedience to larger and human Indifferent our role will be a lot more Tangible and apparent and meaningful because it will be a lot more a lot less removed from this factory What's the word I'm thinking of kind of a Like lack of humanity Structure with it essentially Doesn't prioritize the human element and doesn't prioritize meaning gain from Economic work, so he thinks we'll be a lot closer to our This in the supply chain will have a lot more say and we will as far as producing or hunting your food from Farm to table So to speak You will essentially be the sole arbiter as opposed to us being a Very far removed very compartmentalized cog in the wheel of the process as a whole economic process I Think he he thinks that will bring more I think I Think he makes a lot of good points, but ultimately I don't I don't think it's sustainable I don't think it's a I don't think you could actually it's practical in the sense that we could act it out I would love to hear his response to that Yeah, because I think all the intricacies all the actual real complexities of it would be in the details of it, so you know It's hard enough to make an idea that makes some sort of sense in regards to Forming in a viable alternative to an already existing Some can argue functional Civil civilization structure Yet, it's it's got to be even harder still to actually come up with something that would technically work in the smallest details of it so It would be interesting to hear flesh that out a little bit So Paul and I never realized your name was Paul until you said it a few times in your video Whether I most likely you won't even see this, so I guess I'll I'll go ahead and just direct this towards the people I know who will see it So I won't I won't bother addressing you directly except for that right there but uh, I hope I hope Paul does see this and You are I think Before any misconceptions get Formulated in anybody's minds that this is a I don't know I hit on his character or something like that or a Some sort of attempt to you know knock knock down his argument based on You know something some some attack on his character or him as a human being I think honestly he He's pretty inspiring individual. I mean, he's obviously very successful with his YouTube channel He's obviously helped a lot of people get to sleep Which is one of the most important facets of our lives so Blanket statement. I Firmly stand by I think he's a creative intelligent Really successful human being I think in general so I Think ironically he's Wanting to dismiss all the technology that has allowed him to Maybe start a second career second life. I don't know if he I Would assume he does it full-time because he puts out a lot of content and and I know just me personally trying to Trying to be consistent with my material And put it out every other day. It takes quite a bit of effort So I can imagine he has used this to just revamp his career Maybe give more meaning to his life than he had previously and maybe that's what's bolstering him to Be courageous enough to put his put forth his argument with his face in the video In his his name on his main channel at the the risk of his Reputation perhaps maybe maybe he considered that so Essentially I just want to praise his courage and Show support for it really despite me Trying to argue against a lot of his positions. There's a There's definitely a significant amount of things. I agree with him about in this video. So I guess we're Well past the intro but It's fun anyway, I'm gonna try to just wing it that didn't really have this is gonna be just a half-witted reply Really, it's just kind of off the cuff. I Just finished. I'm in I'm gonna try to incorporate some of the books that I've been reading recently in it Yeah, in my responses Being the Walter Coffin's two books Nietzsche and Nietzsche you guys can see I've shown this book plenty of times quite a few passages on my beyond the Support some of my arguments within here and then the other one I'm currently reading is Shakespeare to existentialism which Talks about Kurt Hegel, Kierkegaard Nietzsche, Rilke Freud, Jaspers, Heidegger, and Toynbee And Toynbee I hadn't even ever heard of honestly, so I'm not to the part of the book where we're discussing that but I Do have a passage or two in here and Secondly, I'm sure you guys can see it right there Jordan Peterson's new book 12 rules for life, so Which I I'm not a patron of his I haven't supported him financially So I ended up just getting the book and buying the audiobook as well, which he read personally, so Honestly, I don't think after I'm gonna have to go back and get I that there's a lot of very crucial information that I Feel like it would be invaluable and would be very wise for me to go back and review and underline and maybe really incorporate into my really drill home into my memory a lot of axioms a lot of scientific concepts to that We'll talk about I got one or two things I'm gonna bring up But I'd highly recommend that book by the way, and I'll always mention Jordan Peterson Yeah, but that's just because he I Don't know. I'm you have the risk of sounding like a shill I guess I don't know. I guess you're not a shill if you admit that I guess never mind. I don't know That was I Didn't even make sense before I said I don't know why to bother saying it He's a shill. I guess it's someone who gets paid to Anonymous anonymously Support be a proponent Of something some work some person some entity But I'm certainly not getting paid. I just find Out of any one individual I found really I think ever, you know, even more so than Nietzsche because Nietzsche is more we so far removed culturally and temporally from me that There's bound to be a lot of things that I don't understand Let alone the fact that he wasn't understood by a lot of people in his own time of his own stature academically as well, so a lot most of what he says goes right over my head and I guess Jordan Peterson has a way of he has a way of articulating himself and That to me interestingly interestingly enough. He's admitted to cultivating that skill He said his first book maps of meaning he wrote Three hours a day pretty much every day for 15 years rewriting sentences 20 times most sentences in his book, so to me that's That's a sign of good faith that He doesn't want to discourage people from thinking that he just formulated these ideas. He popped out I think he was exceptionally He is an exceptionally high IQ which is According to him biologically determined, which is Something I would love to research a little more I Don't know why I was like trying to keep my hair all nice, but when I shower it turns into a pile of hay So I try to put some conditioner in it to make it look like a halfway presentable for a video But anyways Jordan Peterson has a lot of arguments that makes sense and he supports him with science and because he is a scientist first and foremost and a psychologist He I've never heard him say he's a philosopher, but he certainly has a worldview Although technically maybe not a coherent logically waterproof watertight, I guess Philosophy set of arguments The set of arguments that he proposes are extremely To me practical and make a lot of sense So anyways, um, you know, I'm gonna probably make this a two-parter. I Think I have so much to talk about here, but ER ball It was very thought-provoking his video So I just felt compelled because it was so in line with some of the stuff. I'm reading right now and initially I wanted to literally just make a two-minute introduction to I I'm trying to up my quality and the terse-ness and Trying to be as concise as I can but I don't know. I don't think that's ever gonna happen. I Was gonna try to rope you guys in with a good solid controversial maybe argument and Then jump right to just mentioning my patreon supporters I don't know. It sounded like a good idea to begin with but then I just like but then I I'm so disorganized and I actually wrote down some notes Microsoft in a Word document here Man, I just kept glancing over and wanting to mention them real quick, but Honestly Sean and Karen, I just wanted to just give you guys a big thanks for showing so much support and in Joshua Alexis and Andy you guys as well You guys all really encourage me and keep this channel going by supporting me like that on patreon and then sandy has been a Blessing And she's been so encouraging as well. She's supported me through PayPal a couple times actually so And they're in pounds, so I guess she's over in the UK somewhere And I just want to give a big thanks for you guys to you guys for supporting me means a lot and Didn't want it to go unnoticed or unacknowledged at least in my videos. So thanks again guys Guess this would be a good time to and so many of my ideas because I'm not Even when I was in academics, I might eventually go back to I was Not in I was in the stem field, so I don't know anything about Arguing politics English philosophy And the more complex subjects developed on top of that And even sociology I did take a couple anthropology classes because that interests me like no other But I always Prided myself on being more practical and not just following what was super super interesting to me Or trying to find a good compromise between what was interesting and what was practical and That's how I ended up in engineering because science is interesting, but I Didn't see myself excelling so much that I could be a professor And I know pretty much you unless you have that you're not gonna make too much money But I guess a good physicist could make a lot of money in the right department of some private company So engineering seemed like the most useful, but that might be a good segue into my My thoughts on Paul's video here Now I think I'm just say you are instead because that makes more sense nobody's gonna know who Paul is Unless you watch the video or unless he says that sometimes I don't know. I haven't really listened to any of his His podcast either which seemed really cool, but I just don't have time I just saw this video and I'm sucked to ER. So I thought it was cool and me Trying to be practical Although I didn't end up getting my degree. So ultimately I was just kind of like lazy or maybe cowardly to To be to have the conviction to just Follow something through. I don't know. Maybe Maybe that is my issue, but I do fundamentally I Think that if something isn't practical isn't useful in your daily life, then it's not gonna be Not gonna be very Not gonna be very meaningful because you can't act it out. So To segue into my critique of ER here this video I found a lot of things he said was just not practical and First and foremost, I would say calling civilization Cancer is one of them. I don't think that viewing the entire structure That has been slowly developed and incrementally incrementally developed but at points like the French Revolution, you know, pretty much any great revolution industrial revolution any great advances in Quantum mechanics, it's been more of a leap forward, but ultimately Average on average you could say It's been the product of the slow development of really a Continual you can't say that Anything from from what I understand. So this is of course my own opinion It's not reflective of his opinions and with any luck. I won't make a straw man out of his arguments The few arguments that I do have so and I guess that would be my one You know what the underlying Prevus disclaimer, I just want to say is that I don't claim to be Completely knowledgeable about all sides of his argument. I think he seems like he has much more to say than he did like I said in the video So I'm sure I'm gonna make a straw man out of his argument more than I'd like to but I'm gonna attempt not to He let's see, where can I start and I'm not versed enough in the anarchy and everything, but he seems to be an anarchist At least In a in a way he wants to get rid of all major institutions and essentially by going back to a tribal lifestyle he wants to dismiss any major government and And What it seems like what he's implying there is that Tribes would I guess government would emerge out of just the Just the structure that he's proposing should exist us in the wild with minimal technology if not any Which was an issue right there but My broad point is that I would argue that we have Come to where we are Through millions of years of evolution really culturally As well as physiologically and I'm gonna be right. I'm gonna try my best not to again not to I'm gonna try my best to support my arguments and Give you guys an idea of where I'm getting them from 90% of which I'm sure I'm gonna just say Jordan Peterson Jbp but Just cuz if I was watching a video like this, I'd like to know if There's an idea. I throw out that it is interesting to any of you guys I'd like to know where it was from or at least what direction I could go towards Learning more about it. So Jbp Generally, that's gonna mean Carl Jung The guy he mentions John Piaget all the time great psychologist A lot of psychologists rotters Pavlov obviously being a Behaviorist I think he's saying that I think it's it's not to be dismissed easily that The civilization the society all the institutions is the culmination right now and I don't think it's the end product I think everything's constantly evolving and it would be a Terranical in tyrannical stasis if it didn't always continue to evolve, but We're the end product so far and we're the culmination. I think that's the better word of millions of years of physical evolution and At least half a million well at least 150,000 years if not more like 600,000 years of cultural evolution I heard the other day that we started using fire like being able to actually use it whether we actually made it It's probably a different story, but When you have natural forest fires created by lightning striking An area where that's covered in dead Foliage, I guess you'd say Our ability to harness it is at least half a million years old. They're saying I just listened to a nature show the other day I Can't support that Maybe I could yeah, if I'm quick-witted enough to you can't and in the control of fire by early humans here in Wikipedia, but our earliest cultural myths to Probably Are as old as our ability to consciously articulate them into stories and God knows how long that is, you know I guess claims in this on Wikipedia, so it's if anything else it's communal knowledge if not a If not an authoritative source Claims for the earliest definitive evidence of control of fire by a member of Homo range from 1.7 to 2 million years ago So evidence for the controlled use of fire Homo erectus beginning 600,000 years ago has wide wide scholarly support and flint blades burned in fires roughly 300,000 years ago We're found near fossils Of early but not entirely modern Homo sapiens in Morocco and the widespread control of anatomically modern human beings Dates to approximately 125,000 years ago Think about what that means that means that we had the ability to cognize how to Shape so if we're really conservative and go with the most widely supported scholarly work widely One that has the most consensus It's 125,000 years ago Historically, we have about 4,000 years of records, you know since the Maybe 6,000 if you go way way way back so 2,000 years ago and then 4,000 BC So that's 6,000 years that's Roughly 20 times 120th of the time span that we've been able as a species Within our own species Homo sapiens sapiens We've been able to We've been recording history written down 120th of the time that we've actually been Had the capacity and been aware of the technology that allowed us to create not just control but actually create create fire and stone tools and Art as well Although maybe cave art Might only be as old as 40,000 years ago like the Lays Aziz and stuff in France Or that might be the only cave art that we figured out how to make enduring substance With how to make last For a long period of time So discovered fire We doubt and I don't think you are would disagree with the fact that we probably Associated fire just like the Prometheus myth with Our concept of God I would have to say essentially that God evolved along with us our concept evolved And I think I heard the other day maybe in the book sapiens I heard a review about it Forget where maybe it was Jordan Peterson's book Because it was 15 hours of him reading no no no what it was was the Transliminal interview the guy Jordan who interviews Jordan Peterson all the time He was interviewing a social social Anthropologist or someone in that realm of study and they were saying that the concept of God Got more and more sophisticated and so the Judeo-Christian God the Muslim God of the Abrahamic traditions was a Was essentially the culmination of a God that is Omnipotent omniscient and omnipotent. You know, that's similar And all seeing all knowing and all good on Benevolent almost be traced and God had a smaller smaller concept But where am I going with this? I think that was just me my interest is that like The idea of the myth and the myth of God is not just a children's story. It's and it's not just a It's not just a Easy to use tool for control of the masses, although it can and has been used as that It's more fundamentally a story of How the most successful and this is the most important part most successful not just now but over The span the longest possible span of a lifetime or maybe multiple lifetimes How to act? So in other words Although there might be more and Again Jordan Peterson Don't knock me for referencing him most of the time in this video I mean he has a rule one of his main 12 rules is that do something that's meaningful not expedient and If we Culturally evolve the idea of God and we are able to tell these stories that you know The Judeo-Christian God and maybe you know probably not maybe but most likely every old myth Gilgamesh all these old myths The Babylonian Mesopotamia Marduk the Egyptian Horus Cyrus all these ideas of God I would say Product of thousands of think about at least 125,000 probably more like half a million years if Stories told about these great the greatest species The greatest members of our species and the greatest individuals And so what I'm trying to say that took me 20 minutes to get around to is that they're not easily dismissed because they contain within them although they can be dismissed on a Literal level as a children's story Something very simple and simple-minded on a more metaphorical level that cannot be easily dismissed and what you're what I'm finding out I mean through the work of Carl Jung I got a on Carl Jung's a on book back there where he's Essentially, I think that's his theory is that There's a lot of Lot of people died and a lot of trial and error before we understood the best way to act And that came from initially recognizing that we could sacrifice eating a whole bunch today to maybe Save it for later or maybe sacrifice not eating as much as you would to share it with someone in the Maybe unconscious knowledge that you will that act will be reciprocated in the future at some point And Which might have been the origins of this tribal mentality that he are so fond of And my point is that it all evolved and it took time and it took a Lot of dead people to get there You know, we didn't just think it was a good idea and start implementing it and telling stories about it we We had to undergo a lot of suffering and we still do to To arrive at these we had to go through a lot of wars and we had to go through evolution from small roaming bands of people to larger tribes and then Cities and you know villages and cities and city states and the government organizations As old as You know, I'm a Robbie. Yeah, I just don't think you can easily dismiss it, you know I don't think it's I don't think it would be wise to just dismiss civilization as cancer and Maybe your analogy to steel man your argument would be cancer is the development of healthy cells that get out of control and become a a Malignant to the organism in which they In which it they have flourishes and therefore To continue your analogy, maybe there's something deeper to you something more meaningful, which might be in the Might be the human species is what you look at as the organism or you might take a more A broader view and then call the entire earth every organism on that as a single organism and we are Maybe not we as a species, but our culture our current mode of perception is The cancer in which case I think I think that's partially true But not enough so to dismiss the whole thing as cancer You know, I'd have to say that doing so would revert us back to recreating the wheel essentially I think I said the other day that Why recreate the wheel when you can just shave down some of the Mishapen areas of it that's causing it to malfunction as correctly as a wheel should and or not to function as correctly as a wheel should and You know what the point is not trying to recreate the wheel and Why not use our Existing infrastructure, I think it would be a lot more practical to use our infrastructure and Reshape it rather than Re demolish it and rebuild it I think by going to a primal form mode of being you would you would submit yourself to it you would expose yourself to so much more danger and Existential Suicide as you said Is is essentially what it would be so yeah, I'm not really sure what what you're what the details of you would be so but um Let's see 46 minutes. Yeah, maybe I can get through this all in one episode That was probably the world's longest preface to anything, but I just think there's so much evidence that we should Utilize what already exists and They know our son. I know he thinks the most meaning is gonna come from being within a single unit and Essentially having more time with your family. I think is his main argument he talks about co-sleeping and He doesn't believe he doesn't believe in a lot of the traditions and the way you should act Informed by traditions nowadays such as leaving your kid to sleep alone in the room, which I think that's Again, I might be straw manning him here But I think that might be pushing the line between I think it's good to form that really strong bond with your child but at the same time you don't want to overdo it and and Allow your kid to not develop independence and be too dependent on you you want to foster independence and You know, we're all gonna die alone Whether you have someone I think Norm McDonald said that And it is you can't take them can't just Laugh them off because it's it is true. We will die alone whether or not you have family members surrounding you holding your hand You're the one who's gonna die, you know and They'll continue living and so you are born alone you do die alone, but the meaning that's created Through the relationships with other people in particularly your family and loved ones Along the way in between there is What makes life worth living and what powers the will to Commit suicide or Overpowers any Overwhelming sense of suffering that might potentially occur So I do agree. I have some arguments if he ever decides to make a Response to this that would be super cool found things wrong with our society But I think the good outweighs the bad over overall So we're gonna call this the end of part one. It's a quite a rambling unstructured rebuttal to you are there and so I was hoping to actually have a little more Go east go here, and I guess And Follow warm and outline that I sat down, but I Don't know. I guess I am like always. I ended up just kind of going ahead Trying to go off the top my head off the cuff and figure out exactly kind of my own thoughts For informed a little bit by a similar notes. I took in regards to yours theory that we should live outside and But in a problem setting perhaps Just regard the cancer that is civilization So I don't really agree with that obviously This part here Yellow carried away earlier as I tend to do and I recorded nearly two hours Have a response I'll film this is just late at night when I'm editing so Figure I just throw in a nice cap to part one here and With any luck you guys enjoyed it and got something out of it at least enough to to be able to comment and Give me Intern a critique on my critique So I thought it was fun. I thought you are was very informative and very thought-provoking very sincere in his video that he made and I didn't want to dismiss any of his arguments as Well, I didn't want to build them up to be a straw man, so I can easily burn them down and I think I Think personally he seems like a really cool guy someone I could probably talk to it for a couple hours over some beers and Maybe one day we can until then this will have to suffice and And This will wrap up part one, which was essentially me trying to Kind of just gather my thoughts on camera really clearly. I don't have a solid argument but hopefully I made some clear points In my venture to organize my own thoughts out loud on camera for you guys to see my Intellect Developing in front of you with any luck That's some sort of analogy to what's actually going on right there Just reading a bunch of books tossing ideas around and Honestly just talking about it helps Consolidate all the good stuff trim the fat I'll go back and listen to it in a week. Maybe just tomorrow realize Some of the Necessary portions of it and it'll be a good way to critique myself, but with any luck a couple of you guys out there will Give me a Sincere once over and you'll be able to Maybe bring to light any obvious fallacies. I might be making but I Had fun doing it nonetheless, and I was trying basically to to pull up To the surface of my mind the idea that Civilization is something that we can't easily dismiss because it's informed All our conscious being it's we're raised in the Landscape of morality that's been shaped by earth by churches rather and by a Structure of religion that's been instantiated in society for thousands of years now and and I Think there's a lot of wisdom there that that you are I think himself recognizes. We can't just completely dismiss So that's why I I was doing the best I could with the what I understood to be what he delivered in that video Unless I just forgot some portions where he elucidated and elaborated on The technicalities of how we live out there, but I'm pretty sure he didn't Nonetheless, I want to thank him for he just being inspiring. He's one of the Forgers path pavers. He's one of the first to do what he did in the ASMR realm and I hope to be a Credible and I have to leave I have to be a good. What's the word? ancestor Good progeny. That sounds ridiculous, but he's a cool guy. I hope he responds I hope he sees this at least if not responds and I'll try to email him and see if I can Maybe get a response out of him or something like that and maybe we can we can go from there But until then, I hope you guys enjoyed this and part two will be coming really soon. Hopefully within a day or two And I Hope you guys enjoyed it's really obviously just the continuation of this video, but I can't imagine anybody would actually Get through a two-hour ASMR video of me talking so Seem to be the most practical way to go about it Either way, thanks again to all my subs all those likes and comments you leave mean a lot to me No, my patreon supporters my PayPal supporters And really just all the positive energy and Well-thought sincere feedback. I always get Love you guys and hope Sincerely That you all are doing well and that you sleep even better Until next time take care