 Hi, we're here at the IliTechEx show. I'm here with Stan Farnsworth from Nova Centric. Stan, thanks for coming. What's new this year? Hi Ragu, thanks for letting us participate again. We have a great time every year. So we're bringing some tried and true favourites to the show this year. Great. And we'll start off with our Pulseforge Photonic Curing Tools. This is our Pulseforge 1300. It uses flash lamps and a photonic curing process to heat the surface of the materials but not the volume of the materials. So we can create temperature gradients of several hundred degrees across a few tens of microns of substrate. This kind of tool is used primarily for R&D and for applications ranging from consumer electronics, wearables, photovoltaics. Automotive is actually an emerging topic for us over the last couple of years. And how is this distinguished from your competitors who do some of the things? Sure, so I tell people we're not the first ones to use flash lamps or lamps to process materials. Hamburger restaurants use lamps to heat French fries. Lamps aren't necessarily new technology. Heating with lamps is not necessarily new technology. This is new technology because of how we're being able to carefully control the lamp pulse conditions. So we can really carefully tune what the thermal response of the materials is. We do a couple of other things that are very special. On-board, on the side over here we have on-board instrumentation. So from an academic and scientific perspective our customers can plug in the instrumentation to their samples and do real quantitative work around the materials. We're also showing again this year the EX-1 stage attachment which is, it's got a vacuum chuck so we can get good thermal contact with the samples. We can create a vacuum inside with this cover glass and we can also control the base temperature of the substrate. And this is all part of expanding the processing envelope for the variety of materials. And how quickly does it take your customers to get up and running with this through the learning curve? Is it an intense difficult process or how do you help them with that? Well, that's a great question because that's another key differentiator with the Pulseforge tools from Nova Centrics. They're designed to be able to plug in easily, facilitates very easily. The tools come built in with software which is useful for being able to control the pulse conditions as well as there's an on-board simulation that lets our customers build a material stack and understand what the thermal response of the materials is. And so when we install a tool, we include training for how to use the tool as well as the normal safety training. The safety features in this are priority number one, the interlocks, the self-diagnostics. That's another differentiation with our competitors. And when your customers use different materials, how do they know what settings to use? Is there some sort of library they can access? So for the simulation, there is a library of materials that comes with the tool with the thermal physical values. Our engineering team will still stay involved with the customer and continue to help them get the successful process conditions. We don't just ship it and abandon them. We'll install it and we'll support them through the process development because we need them to be successful. That's how we know where successful is when they're successful. So this is a standalone tool. When we think about integrating this into a roll-to-roll feature, that's really a big topic for our customers now as well. So this is a unit. It still has a pulse-forged tool. This particular flavor is a 1200. This is really optimized for processing metals on polymers and paper, metal inks. We work with AdFos as a near-infrared dryer for helping to dry the inks prior to being processed with the tools. We include an ink module on this particular tool. If we can get in and see the particular pattern on here, we've printed an RFID antenna pattern prior to the show. We're running this sample of roll-through here and getting good conductive results after drying and then processing with the photonic curing tool. So during the course of the show, we've been running demos of actually turning on the machine and giving demos for the process. So as many organizations using this in development, what industries are currently using this? Or do you think very close to using this in the actual commercial production of parts? Sure. So that's actually a great segue because what we're featuring this year is really an applications focus. So we've got some key value propositions for the tools, also for our electrically conductive inks, our metal on brand inks. But these are all areas where we're in production or we think soon to be in production with our customers. We've had several notable production implementations over the last couple of years. We have production factory tools running in facilities in China and Korea and Japan right now, making things that people will probably have in their pockets or in their homes or maybe in their cars as well, which is very exciting. Fantastic. And one of the themes that we're really bringing to the show this year that's important for us is the concept of merging design with function. And this is the topic that is part of the value proposition of printed and flexible electronics. The topic that relates, you know, we tend to think about as technologists, we tend to think about performance numbers, but there's a whole other half of the discussion which is what does something look like. And you stop by our booth today just as we're talking with Angelica from Electrocouture. And if I could summon her over here. So we were just talking about how technology integration and fashion and textiles and appearance is really a topic beyond the printed electronics community. Can you talk a little bit about the work that your group is doing? Yes, absolutely. So at my company we are actually emerging technology and fashion. Not only fashion but mainly also textiles. So it's all about integrating technology into textiles and garments. Because I think that in the future, especially everything around us is becoming smart, so why not also our clothing? Especially because we are exposed to so much of our clothes which makes most of our interface. What do you see as the main challenges getting electronics into clothing? The main challenges of getting electronics into clothing is definitely that most of the electronics are not made for a wearable use case. So they are not flexible, they are not made for the washing machine. Right. Batteries are always a big issue. Batteries are big and bulky. They are not lightweight and wearable, so I think they are the biggest obstacles. And who do you think really wants to buy electronic clothing? So do you think it's ready for the mass consumer market or do you see niches? And what niches do you think would go for this first? Well, that's a good question. Who will be the people interested in these kind of things to ask for it? So I guess there's different industries. As I said, we're not only focusing on fashion but also textiles. Because I mean textiles, you have them in your interior, in your house, in cars. So all these kind of things can become smart in a way. And clothing, I think if you really focus just on clothing, it's definitely the end consumer. Great. Can you tell us a bit about your company and what you do? Yeah, at Electrocuteer we are doing innovation in the field of fashion technology. And we're at the moment mainly doing a lot of consultancies. So we are matchmakers between the fashion and the technology industry. And we're a consulting company who want to enter the fashion tech field. But on the other hand, we're also doing a lot of in-house R&D projects. Because we want to show and explore what's actually possible in the field of fashion technologies. So you have a website, what website should people go to? Yeah, it's Electrocuteer.com. Thanks, Tom. Yeah. All right. We got that mic right there. All right. Excellent. Well, thank you for standing in and impromptu just visiting us. Thank you. And Ragu, thanks again for letting us participate. Thanks, Tom. A little thank you. And for the cooperation. This is a great event. Thank you. And we're making great contacts. And we'll look forward to being back next year. Excellent. Thanks, Tom. Yeah.