 Welcome back. It's so watching the breakfast on plus TV Africa and it's time to look at The newspapers this morning right here on the program I guess is standing by and when we are done with going through those headlines or introduce our guests And they'll get into the business of analyzing the headlines. All right, we start with the leadership newspaper this morning interesting Headlines from the leadership newspaper how tumble wells PDP presidential primary how tumble wells Swung as tumbles withdraw swung 182 Northwest votes for a tickle. I don't know how we case supporters will feel reading this headline How tumbles withdraw swung 182 Northwest votes for a tickle such a master stroke More from the paper Okada riders invade fct estate burn houses over colleagues death There we go again. Okada riders invade fct estate burn houses over colleagues death How supreme court ruling crumbled rivers panel Indictment of a Meiji how supreme court ruling crumbled rivers panel indictment of a Meiji With wheat flour substitution fails on low cassava demand supply gap wheat flour substitution fails on low cassava demand supply gap EFC CRS Yari over accountant generals 48 billion narrow probe Flight with 22 passengers on board missing in Nepal terrorist attack Train attack terrorists give fresh ultimatum and finally will be another wife Odua, Econi fair or not a killer quay pick Senate tickets stories on the front page of Leadership. Let's move next to the nation this morning The following headlines the big one there Presidency Buhari not part of plot to draft Jonathan into race Presidency Buhari not part of plot to draft Jonathan into race Ex-president not qualified to be a standard bearer says national working committee member Yes, that puts paid to President Jonathan's ambition or talk of his ambition to be the next president Eight children for release to train terrorists respite for captives Primaries 42 senators won't return number likely to rise Methodist Prelate Bishop kidnapped in Abia Methodist Prelate Bishop kidnapped in Abia Jim O'Brahim Obiano's wife Bagudu win Senate tickets EFCC uncovers another 90 billion narrow fraud against accountant general How a tickle struck last-minute deal with Tambo to win ticket how a tickle struck Last-minute deal with Tambo to win ticket lessons for a PC from the PDP convention details on page 29 Pope names Nigerian or parley K. Others Cardinals suspect excreted 95 heroin pellets and President signs 19 out of 131 bills passed by Senate in Three years government kill NPC chief some stories coming on front page of the nation To the punch at Tico's candidacy Pro zoning forces angry slam PDP Tambo pro zoning forces Angry slam PDP Tambo Tambo's withdrawal dubious PDP's primary Inequitable pan of others Delegates inducement with money forced Tambo to step down governor's aid Okay, maybe some some image laundering there banks tighten forex access as reserves hit seven month low EFCC arrest area ledges ex-governor got 22 billion era largesse from accountant general Strike we resume talks with federal government says Asu and Sanu I don't know if you set up will say yes to me says a day and you who rode Motorcycle from London to Lagos the video on the internet showing him asking for a hand in marriage We don't know that serious or not, but man has obviously come out to say he's interested in her More from the punch Nigeria's internet population grows by 108.39% now 80.68 million cabals benefiting from Petrol petrol imports frustrating local we found this as according to it man and More from the punch. I like chairman visits Iqiti ahead of June 18 Governorship poll Port Hackett stampede church and morn's traces victims Families and the club shot talking about the Polo Club Lagos telecoms accountant Commits suicide friend blames depression and can pfn fumus Government kidnapped Methodist prelate others in Abia. I know Archbishop of the prelate his evidence Dr. Uche a fairly well because I'm also Methodist by birth and by by confirmation Quite close to his daughter really really worrying and sad news to read hope that He's released as quickly as possible to go back home to his family Over to the daily independent APC presidential primary team boost chances at risk over removal of statutory delegates Party will be in trouble if he didn't emerge is coming from swagger Says he is the only one that can defeat atiku convincingly FG banks on beligged telcos to boost revenue Buhari distanced himself from plot to draft Jonathan into presidential race Atticu's PDP candidacy affront on us southern middle belt leaders Atticu are you lamido ahead your happy? Thank you visit to Tamboa EFC CRS governor Yari over alleged role in AGF's 80 billion narrows come 2023 why Saudis shouldn't be skimmed out our presidential race by umahi We have also more stories from the independent PDP can sales governorship National assembly primaries in Eboi and wanted drug lord arrested in on though Disaster is coming on front page of the national dailies day. Let's quickly welcome Bode Badebo who is the online editor of the leadership newspaper mr. Badebo. Thank you very much for your time and good morning to you Thank you very much. We'll start with your newspaper the leadership. How tumbles withdraw swung 182 north-west votes for Tiku. Just a brief one on that Obviously wiki and his supporters will be supported at this And do you think that if Tamboa had not withdrawn? Yes, so wiki probably would have emerged as the winner I don't think so. I don't think so. You see politics Is your ability to negotiate? also win Somebody towards yourself, but then in the last contest we saw on a Saturday Organized by the people's democratic party. You will believe how you agree with me rather that article former vice-president article was the only aspirants with the requisites for the school sagacity, you know clouds and Structure everywhere across this country to win that contest. So regardless of any Master's through whether We do from the race or not or whether anybody, you know dollarize the Exercise or not articles to the chance to win and he actually won All right. All right, they will move on to from that. Of course We'll have a look at that more in depth in our first conversation for the morning There's a paper. There's a story at the top left corner of the front page of the leadership talking about Ocala writers and embarking on on carnage and destruction again this time in the FCT where headline says Ocala writers invade FCT estate burn houses over colleagues death It's sad if indeed their colleague died. We don't know what happened. I've not read that story, but I'm Ocala writers again, should we be worried about this incident and what can be done to to make sure that There's this group of people who don't continue to be a danger to society Yeah, we should be worried. What is needed at this point in time is regulation I mean not totally, you know by the idea of a total ban because when you ban these people from Echin leaving they will become, you know, more Dangerous menace to the society like what Lagos is doing and you can see the Reaction trailing the Lagos the government decision, but what is important at these are, you know Ocala writing well is a menace actually, but then because of a lack of a game to employment to see young people taking to Ocala Riding to a living, but unfortunately the larger part of these people are Uneducated people They don't have an interpersonal relationship with their passengers, you know with communities where they found themselves so in this situation where we are found ourselves and Against the best of what's up on here in Abuja yesterday. I think what is important is urgent regulation Anybody that want to write Ocala should be known should be registered by any agency that government want to create or that is Assistant already and I can tell you there will be peace in case there is any Infraction anybody's violating the law it's easy for us to trade the person trace the person identify the person Project you the person but in this case now we don't know who and who we don't know who is an Ocala rider We don't know who is not everybody is just you know constituting the nuisance in the society and now If the Abuja incident yesterday is not actually punished I can tell you this we continue which we continue because it has happened before it will continue We often did the market here two weeks ago was as a result of the same incident with Ocala people and good words millions of Naira Were destroyed at the Abuja a timber market in the suburb called Dede here in Abuja So what is important now is for government to actually quickly moving to regulate Ocala riding. I want to tell you that It's a necessary evil Because a lot of people Don't Own personal cast and you need something to take you to the front of your house. There are people living in trivial places So it's a necessary evil. We have to live with it. But there is a need For urgent regulation All right. All right But let's go still with your paper This headline train attack terrorists give fresh ultimatum the story says that the terrorists who attacked the Abuja Kedruna train Who are killing nine of the passengers and kidnapping over 60 others have withdrawn the earlier threat, thankfully to kill the remaining 62 passengers in captivity and The media consultant to Sheikh Ahmed Gumi Says that they've given the federal government a fresh two week ultimatum effective from today monday You know, that's what they're saying to release their eight children in government custody That's eight of the terrorist children in in government cops custody. What are your thoughts on this? Well, you know, this kind of matter is the security matter government will never tell you what it is doing behind the scene to actually, you know Overcome the challenge, but these as it may it is natural that the families of those in captivity Uh, we'll be worried and they are always worried. I've spoken to a couple of them. You know, they keep telling me the situation they found themselves and the media consultant to popular islamic cleric, uh, dr. Gumi That was spoken to by terrorists Malantukumamu is also a well known person to me he reside in Kaduna. I spoke with him too He told me I don't know what else you say this He told me that the government is not actually on top of the situation And this is a problem. The government need to be on top of the situation to rescue these people alive So that they will continue to have faith in government But as we are now as we speak it seems we don't have a government in place These people they table their demand They say young people their children, you know, they even call them underage They were arrested and they were taken to an orphanage home in Yola, uh, the Adamawa state capital So I think the question we should ask ourselves is where were those kids arrested in the first place And if they were suspected to be terrorists themselves, the government know the right thing to do but in this, uh In this instance, I think, uh The live of uh innocent Nigerians in the hands of those, uh terrorists is a world's more than, uh, The kids of these people and it is important that the government come out to say, okay We have your kid with us Take your kid and give us, uh Our people back, you know, this is done everywhere around the world even advanced places like us do what we call a prisoner swap With non-terrorists. So I think the government should really do the need to Before, uh, the terrorists will begin to do, uh Um, unpleasant things on two hot things all right, um, uh, shake Ahmed Gumi has has not had um, uh, a warm reception, you know in The Nigerian public or from the Nigerian, uh populace, especially in the southern part of the country A lot of people view him as a one of the, uh, you know people sympathetic to bandits, you know with his, um Previous attempts to interface between the country and the bandits and uh, now we're hearing these terrorists, uh Passing mixed messages through us through his camp. That's uh Gumi's camp Is Gumi part of the problem should he be picked up by by the government to tell us more about what he knows about these And the location of these, um these terrorists Gumi is never part of the problem. This reason, uh, I've come in contact with since 2015 You know when you, uh initiate something And that idea is misunderstood. There is nothing you would tell anybody If the perception around the idea, you know is biased From an inception. There is nothing you tell anybody now Gumi himself is a full animal from Zampara states and uh when I met him, uh three months ago Yeah, I think sometimes last year when he started this peace initiative to full and he comes around terrorist forest and the rest of them He told me that work he initiated that in order to separate the width from the chaff In order for him to know Who are the fuller needs suffering, uh, you know unjust, uh Injustice from the nangeran troops and who are the criminals among them But because of uh, Gumi's perception People thought he's aiding them and the rest of them. And let me tell you something Uh, there was a visit on the truth to Niger states, a forest in Niger state When uh students of a government in second district Kagara in Niger state were abducted That visit He was accompanied on that visit by policemen and Nigerian soldiers. So you can see The government know what he's doing Gumi himself know what he's doing But I can tell you The best of my own knowledge is never uh the problem. What is the what is the missing gap is that? There was no understanding between him The public and the government to come together to understand the whole issue And see a way Or how Gumi as a person can help To solve this challenge of banditry and insecurity in northwestern part of the country I believe he has uh The clouds he has the influence to actually talk to some person involved in this criminality But because of misperception uh misunderstanding of his initiative as the man hands off and say, okay He's no longer interested and see where we have to be All right, um, we move on from the leadership visa right now and look at stories coming in the nation Uh a newspaper uh presidency Buhari not part of the plot to draft Jonathan into race and uh According to the paper they are quoting a national working committee member of the party is saying that uh the former president Is not qualified to be uh the standard bearer of the apc now this is um Goes against the news that came out last week They said that despite uh, Jonathan not submitting himself for any screening or for any uh form Personally picking up a form and submitting it that since the group had picked the phone for him that he along with others who are like a mafie l. A and um, uh Addition of the afdb Head that they will be screened by the party despite the fact that they probably refuse Uh, uh, the forms that were bought for them by members of the public. So this is now different Um, what are your thoughts on this if indeed the chairman of the party had said all those who Whose name had been used to pick forms will be screened and now an nwc member is saying that um, Jonathan is not part of the race What do you think he forms this future? Well, uh, the statement by ashu rock yesterday uh Was very important in the sense that it will actually uh lay the fears Of some of the major Contestants in the rolling of progressive uh congress like ashu ajibola. I met in ubu rice Rest and emil shibaju and the rest of them who I can tell you they've been unsettled With the mention of jonathan as the anointed candidate of president mohammad upuhari But then the statement is coming in just one week to their own uh Convention their convention should be taking place. Uh, maybe uh, The other weekend the assist and seventh of our job. So this is coming rather late because this book story Uh But you know emanated weeks ago many weeks ago that jonathan will be flying the flag of uh apc and the rest of them But I think it is good that the presidency came out to say well jonathan Uh, president bohari is not part of the plot to drag jonathan into apc and to make him uh Uh, the anointed uh candidate Then secondly Before we I came on this show I saw a list on the social media that apc has released the list of our 22 or 23 Presidential aspirants to be screened as presidential aspirants of the party And the name of former president good old jonathan is not part of the Is not part of the list then I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how jonathan will be Contesting without joining apc formally in the first place No matter the waiver you must first be registered as a member of the political party Before you can enjoy the privileges Members of the party, you know enjoy so jonathan has not to the best of our knowledge has not registered officially As a member of the apc whether in abuja Yes, whether in baiyasa or abuja. So you have not done anything like that So I don't see jonathan as a member of the apc in the first place Then secondly, I did just concluded a pdp national convention I don't know if you see a page on their Program on the social media where the picture of jonathan was uh You know jonathan was listed as one of the former president and member of the party And that tells you again that jonathan at no time formally, you know quit the opposition major People's democratic party. So there is anything that is nothing like that. He didn't quit the party officially So for them is to their member and in apc Is neither here. No there. He has not formally registered. So there is no way he can be a presidential aspirant All right, um, some some will say, you know, dr. Jonathan has not really been seen with a pdp Um in in recent time, especially well since he left office He's not attended their meetings and he basically just Has been absent from the party whilst there also suspicion that he Supported the apc candidate for governor in that state. I'm talking about lion You know, so I mean should we should retake what the party is doing seriously by putting his face in the convention program Well, yes, he stayed away from the party. He has been avoiding the party. I like you just rightly said now In the last year election was it last year 2020 2020 2021 a governorship election in a biostat state He was seen openly supporting the then a governorship candidate. They will be up now That seemed like anti-party For the pdp, but then there are due processes He never at any time officially, you know Approach the party to say I am no longer Your member as you have seen with other people, you know, differing from one party to the other So there are due process and that is that was why the pdp listed him As a member a former president On their program. I just concluded national convention, special national convention Where as he who was elected as a presidential So for him is a dilemma. He does not belong to a he does not belong to b He's just hanging at the middle and that's not too good For his uh, presidential aspiration even thought he knows anyone Okay, so probably he can join president mohammed abu hara him saying I belong to nobody and I belong to everybody All right, that's him. I go down is in history But you just remain a statement if the statement already should remain a statement All right, do you think probably this will come as a sigh of relief to the proponents of a southern presidency Because of course the jonathan Contested even though they legal legal questions around that But if he managed to contest it would be for only to be president to be for only one term Probably a sigh of relief for the south Well, that's one game. There are so many people, you know are projecting and a lot of people are also against it Okay, why should you use jonathan as a pawn in the political chess game? Why should you grasp him to come to serve your own interests your purpose to just come spend four years And go back to the power and now we return to to the notes. Well, I don't believe in all those uh Conspiracy, you know theories because power as it is now we all know is a serve ala cards Are you served as a buffet power is never served ala cards. You can sit down and get power You have to stand up look for power grab power So the gentleman agreement of a rotational presidency you can see now it will not work again from 2023 Atiku is a candidate of the pdp So be it is the candidate and you know, it's time to chance of winning the 2023 Presidential election is a known person is a veteran politician and the rest of it. It can win and if you win it means power Is came back in the north but which are parts of the north Not eastern part of the country which people also say has never tested the presidency Like the southeast so for me, I don't believe if these are Rotational thing what I'm always after is who has the capacity who has a competent to actually take this country out of the wood Like atiku said, I like what he said. I want to unify the country and that's one of our foundational problem for now This unity there is no unity and you can see the crisis all over the place So as we speak we don't need a southern president or northern president We need a nigerian president that will unify the country that will take us out of the woods as we speak All right interesting We'll stick we'll stick with the nation history for this morning EFCC uncovers Another 90 billion narrow fraud against the accountant general. This is in addition to The initial 80 billion narrow Fraud that is being investigated. So if you add both think you have about 170 a billion narrow Just a few lines from the paper and the article It says that Idris who is battling or who was battling for bail last night has opened up on some top government officials allegedly involved in some transactions. So it seems that he's um You know exposing some of those who are collaborators Some of the papers covering The headline to include governor yari As being complicit in all of this your thoughts on on this now No 80 billion Yes, I want to comment the EFCC what the EFCC is doing of recent shows that No one is above the law in Nigeria. We used to see people being above the law But in recent times, I think the narrative might have changed with the arrest of the accountant general the suspended accountant general Ahmed Idris and Maybe from what? Investigation they are conducting. They discover again that former zanfarasi governor Abdelaziz yari has a Case to answer but That is all enough. I think there is a need for some Reform in our electoral law and even the constitution as the case may be For example, yari just paid a senatorial ticket in Zanfarat as a weekend. It will be representing. I think Zanfarat Central it will be contested for center Zanfarat central senatorial seat in the 2023 General election now if anybody has a question to answer If anyone has been indicted such person even though people say no, no, that's not fair And accused is presumed innocent On to proving guilty but in my own case. I want to believe if you are indicted You should stay away from the political arena from the electoral process until all Processes are concluded that you are either guilty or not guilty because as we speak He's in detention now. I can tell you before election in my get bill It will become a senator probably and again it will continue the case again as a senator You might be going to court and be coming back, you know and all those things for me Disgraceful a public officer of that standing should not be seen going to court and coming back or going to detention and coming back So for them people will tell you no, no, we don't do that. It's against fundamental human rights If anyone is presumed, uh, is accused of anything is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I remember in uh in abbey state the former governor Won the election while in prison He's no he's no longer a governor again, but he won the election while in prison also the now The new secretary of the apc senator. You allow me sure. I also won a senatorial election in Osho states While in prison at that time Well, thank god the cases have been cleared, but I think the idea the case is still on you can imagine the case is still on He was a governor for eight years He has vacated office and the case is still on and the case started before he became the governor. You can imagine All right interesting times indeed. Um, this should probably one of the biggest Yeah swoops and probably biggest cases under bawa the e of cc had what are your thoughts on the performance of bawa As head of the e of cc cnc. He became uh came into that position Are you talking about the e of cc chairman? Yes, yes, indeed Okay, abby ashig bawa, I think the young man has been doing uh A lot has been doing a lot for I just told you now that uh, oh I used to believe certain persons Above the law but with the recent event I want to tell you yes the narrative is changing but not completely changing because I know that my cases started Way back in 2007 and those cases Are no head. They have no head way as we speak. We don't even know whether the people are still on trial or their cases have been concluded Let me say the example former governor of uh jigawa state who was governor from 1999 to 2007 Aminu saminu teraki He's on trial, but you don't know the status of that trial whether he's still on trial or whether his Case has been concluded. What we have been saying is the manipulation of e of cc by the office of the attorney general of the federation Because e of cc is under the presidency to The office of the attorney general of the federation minister of justice And you can see of course that we end up to a large extent the the the operation of the e of cc We learned that the new chairman a good man that is but it was nominated by the current minister of justice and attorney general Of course, he would give him directive on what to do and what not to do We've been seeing a lot of reports about who to who to be put on trial And who not to be touched That should not happen in the same client in the same society But then that's what we're seeing but with what I've said recently I want to believe the narrative is changing and it will change for good All right Indeed, uh, hoping the narrative will change and it will change for good a very worrying story on the front page of the nation Newspaper the paper says that the Prelate of the Methodist Church of Nigeria His evidence dr. Samuel Caloo Uche and a bishop have been kidnapped in abia state this happening Around uh in in umu neocchi local government area of abia state at about 7 p.m. Yesterday The police confirmed the incident which has thrown the church hierarchy into fear over the safety of your leader Is that once again, you know brought up the issue of insecurity in the southeast Quite a number of the kidnapping incidents. Uh, don't get reported in the press I know a few of them that have not made it out to the newspapers your thoughts on this body Well, I know the press, uh, the Nigerian press is now a spirit Yes, I know Yeah, all I'm saying is it's more is a grave situation even more than what we read about that's all I'm saying Exactly now. I think the insecurity in the southeast is something that needs Special attention is different from the kind of insecurity where you have in other parts of the country In the north west for instance, you will hear people telling you even security experts telling you there are the bandits that are arriving in north west are Pulling it from another part of it are from other parts of the world For example, they are Chadians. They are they are Nigerians and the rest of them, you know but in the southeast It is very very clear from the videos we have seen from the report we have read That is an in-house thing We have seen People speaking people killing people killing same evil are making videos. You understand very very terrible thing So I don't know what the federal government is doing But then the federal government might also find itself in a fix as to how to confront the problem In the sense that people will say oh Whenever there is a problem in the southeast the crocodiles will be smiling the panthong the python with the dancing You know, these are military operations Previously in the region, but when things are happening in the north Nothing like that Is a problem is an angelic problem Yeah, does the federal government stay back in silky where we will not guarantee the safety of nigerians because people are saying these things And that is not, you know, that is not expecting of a government that is reform decisive You know and without discrimination. So I think whatever it is government should be On top of it came This is nigeria. We have a nigerian president and thank god you said something earlier You reminded me something that the president said on bed 29 2015 I will be president for everybody and I will be president for nobody You understand so you should prove that statement in this instance But what we have seen so far is a president Who pays more attention in my own estimation to one to one with one issue than the other Which is not necessary in nigerian president is an nigerian president and this is how that make people to be disenchanted This is what I make people to be to be saying want to break away who won't be afra when there is no sense of belonging So this insecurity in the southeast is a peculiar one and it should be confronted in such in Such manner and government should do something before this issue Go out of hand now look at the person that was taken up yesterday the privilege of the Methodist church When I saw the story I didn't believe it initially. I thought it was a fake news the privilege of the Methodist church No, no This is one thing taken too far and I think government should come out all out to actually confront this once and for all And of course, I'll join all people of goodwill. I'm sure including yourself to to call on those who have abducted the doctor Samuel callu uche to please release him Dr. Callu Samuel uche is a good person who is simply out there on humanitarian grounds as a Man of God a preacher leading people including those from the southeast On their journey of salvation and you know, of course, you have a charity As part of the work of the church and is also a member an indigent of the southeast So how do you what point do you make when you kidnap such a person? Please let him go But it would stick look at a few more stories before we say Goodbye to you. Let's just take one more From the punch newspaper Of course, we have a Port Hackett stampede church months traces victims families Club shot talking about the Port Hackett cloak polo club and this is in reference to The charity event that was meant to hold on saturday in Port Hackett called shop for free By the king's assembly your thoughts on that very quickly well It's very pathetic That was an event upon a sad incident on saturday in the port of court Hmm well, I think we should be more conscious of our crowd control measures wherever we are organizing events that involve crowd At times, you know, we don't care that some things that we are having a religious program and god is in control So we should not do our own part and I don't think that is uh A good enough. I don't know what those people in protocols what measures they took Arrangement they made for the program, but this has happened. I think We can only pray for the repose of the souls of the victims and also think out of the bus and see How these incidents will not happen again anywhere It is a certain Incidents and we pray that the soul of the departed will rest in peace government should quickly do something To ameliorate the pains of the families of the victim first Go mention quickly moving comment should not you know say oh, this was a private church matter It does not no no no. This is nigeria We have a government in place government should be beyond issuing a statement to say oh, we mourn the death We mourn the death. No, let's quickly moving to to to to pushing the pain Of the families of the victim and see how this will not occur again These are very very important in this circumstance quite a staggering amount of number of people who died I mean if it's one person is still a pain Yeah, but 31 it's it's quite sad. I'm you had mostly, you know children mothers Elderly people who come up for this event. I see so because I've been part of it but the the the police spokesperson in in Lagos state is saying that People were there earlier than the event was meant to start out I think it was meant to start at about 9 a.m And they were there by 4 30 a.m And that some of them got impatient and started rushing which led to the stampede But but but I would like us to look at this and this is an interesting take by Al Jazeera's fidelis in Bahua who is in a Buja and he's reminded us that um there was an incident where Uh, uh, and I remember this on import hack at where a non-governmental organization tried to give Uh, some free items um sort of palliative and donations to the poor Eight people Passed on died. That's an ink nation. It's what they call them I remember that one very clearly and also in the northern part of the country in bonus state An aid agency had a food program where they were trying to distribute food items and that also saw seven women trampled Upon and trampled to death there. Uh, why would you think? Why do you think when it comes to these charitable, you know Uh Activities and donations like the food incident in the north, you know, people die very very shortly, please because we are out of time unfortunately, it's uh manifestation of the failure of the government The examples you cited people were you know scrambling for food Why should people scramble for food in the place? hunger Hunger so why do we have hunger in place? Who should address hunger? The charitable organizations are only doing their own bids to help but in the course of helping something happens But should they have scrambling for food in the first place? So you can see the whole thing boils down to governance lack of good governance hunger everywhere lack of gainful employment So the program that ought to take place by eight people now we are there by 4 30 or a Just because of hunger very very Unfortunate and people in government for the in governmental position should cover their their face in shape Whether at reverse level or at the federal level beyond issuing a statement very very unfortunate Is the failure of governance? Thank you very much Bodek Badebo who's the online editor of the leadership newspaper really pleasure having you join us on the Uh, news about review segment right here on plus TV. Thank you for your time Thank you. Thank you. My pleasure All right, we'll take a break to look at what happened today in history and when we returned Uh, we look at the emergence of attico obokara's presidential candidate of the people's democratic party. Please stay with us