 I discovered that the absolute thrill of being able to work on something almost purely in terms of craft, you know, and I just, it was addictive. Aside from the fact that Turkish literature so badly needs translators. I've lived abroad for several years and it's utterly imperative that we know our neighbors. For every good reason in the world, I mean to hopefully mitigate trying circumstances and prevent wars. No, translation is incredible. And also, it's so fascinating to read poems out of an entirely different culture or literature of any kind. It shows you dimensions of the human experience that are not available to you at home. It's an educational experience. It's critical to our understanding of what is to be human, I think. It offers all sorts of support for translators. I think one of the most important things it offers is the chance to network with other translators, with people who publish translations to find out about resources, to find out about fellowships and money. I think we find each other fascinating too. I love listening to the sound at the declamation. I love listening to the sounds of other languages and fellowship. It's a lovely group.