 Hello, welcome back to JSA TV and JSA podcast, where we are covering the latest stories, trends and innovations from leaders in global connectivity, real estate and the networks within. I am joined here today by Sami Halepaynian from Equinex. He is the managing director for Finland and the acting managing director for Sweden as well for Equinex. Nice to see you, Sami. Nice to see you too. Thank you. Happy to be here. Yeah, excellent. We're so happy to have you. You actually just joined us from one of the keynote panels. You were talking about sustainable operating models. So could you give us the top takeaway or two from that panel? I would say the kind of most biggest topic there is around the sustainability is how you develop that in the future. It's very important topic for most of the people and most of the companies and probably everyone on the audience too. And it's very visible topic in here at the Nordic Sales and the market at the moment. So I would say if I would need to pick some key topics, it's probably what's next step. How do you develop sustainability even further from now? The heat recovery part, that's kind of baseline nowadays already. But where you go next? What you can develop on the next level? How you keep up going? You're going to make the climate better. Yeah, excellent. I love that. Always looking forward. And as in your role as Equinex's managing director for both Finland and Sweden, could you tell us a little bit about maybe the company's biggest win in those countries when it comes to sustainability? So okay, if I'm looking kind of back, let's say a couple of years back, one big topic is power purges agreements, which in essence is how we source power. So kind of most of the operators, they are 100% renewable, which is very typical here. But what we are doing at the moment is actually we are investing to bring more capacity to greed. So we're basically purchasing power agreements with companies who will build, well, in practice, wind turbines in Finland, for example, and in Sweden. So instead of kind of wrapping existing renewable power, we want to bring more power on the greed. Heat recovery is a very big topic at the moment. We have been very successful since 2010 in Finland and the coming years. We have been building it for the older sides we are having. Probably within the recent future we are also kind of bringing other than environmental topics around it, kind of social sustainability, you know, kind of green top, how you harvest pollinators, you know, kind of, not just environmental sustainability, but bringing more to the community back and biodiversity is a big topic. Absolutely. Excellent. Well, well done. Yeah. Thank you for that update. And then, of course, Stockholm is such a huge mobile market in particular in the Nordics and in Europe. So could you talk about how Equinex is able to keep up with that growing demand without kind of sacrificing sustainability? It's kind of how utilisation is better on sustainability perspective. If you have a high utilisation and a lot of queries coming in, you can utilise more better performance on efficiency level, which basically is that the more you get business, the more you have resources, you can get a mass benefit when optimising the data centre. So it's coming with the mass. Excellent. All right. Well, thank you so much, Sami. It was great chatting with you here. Thank you. And to all of our viewers back home, thanks for hanging out with us on JSA TV. Happy networking.