 Wait, wait, before you get mad, the title is clickbait just to get you to come look and you did when I say new Ghostbusters I'm talking about these guys 1984. They were not the originals for the first Ghostbusters You have to go back to CBS Saturday morning 1975 To this But I'll get to that in a minute first of all I got to tell you that I'm not one of these people who feels like my Childhood is sacred or that it's being stomped on or that it's being killed The reason I'm making this video is to tell you about the original Ghostbusters But I'll get to them in a minute. First of all, let me tell you about how I saw the 1984 Ghostbusters I had just graduated high school 1984 I was talking on the phone to a classmate of mine and she said that a group of them were going out to see a Movie and I invited myself along and it turned out to be Ghostbusters I had seen the commercials on TV, but I didn't know anything about it. Everything in it was a surprise It was great fun. We laughed all the way through it in 1988 This was decades before the word cosplay wasn't vented. I built my own Proton pack out of foam core and poster board and spray paint and scrap from a plumbing store It had a switch on the handset and lit up and everything so yeah I liked Ghostbusters, but honestly I enjoyed the real Ghostbusters cartoon more than I did the movie Speaking of the 1984 movie a couple of years ago when it was shown in theaters all over the nation as part of its I guess 30th anniversary. I went to a local theater that was showing it. I was really looking forward to it It was very poorly attended. There was just a handful of people there There was nobody laughing The movie itself wasn't as funny as I remembered it. It had been years since I had Sat through the whole thing but the most notable thing about watching it today is that Peter Vinkman's behavior is Completely unacceptable his sexual harassment of Dana Barrett and it is sexual harassment is constant and unrelenting and It's just not funny anymore. So yeah, like I said before I don't consider the 1984 movie to be sacred And speaking of which those original Ghostbusters I was telling you about before yeah 1975 CBS Saturday mornings produced by Filmation studios the premise of the show was exactly the Ghostbusters that you're familiar with some ghosts would show up and start making trouble The Ghostbusters would be called in they would use a scientific device called a dematerializer to send the ghost back to the spirit realm It was the Ghostbusters There was plenty of science fiction going on on Saturday morning in the mid 1970s a lot of it was coming from Filmation They had produced the animated Star Trek cartoons and they had just produced this bizarre post-apocalyptic show for kids called art to and Then Space Academy came a little later and those were great science fiction Really lofty ideas that was bringing kids up to a high level of science fiction appreciation Ghostbusters was not like that This was talking down to kids straight down. She just this hang-hangers really killing me No, why don't you go see a doctor? I did Tracy took me to see his doctor. Well, what did the doctor say? Well, he said to eat 12 bananas and go sleep in a tree Yeah, it doesn't get any better than that. I'm sorry to say I can't even watch it Nostalgically today or ironically. It's just unbearable to watch I remembered it because I had watched everything on Saturday morning throughout the 1970s But by the time the 1984 Ghostbusters movie came out I was the only one of my own generation my own generation who remembered the originals Everyone else was like what what are you talking about? I was saying wait, there's already a Ghostbusters One of the reasons I remembered it was because my dad laughed at it every time the show started You notice at the beginning of the show. It says I'm Spencer. He's Tracy. I'm Kong Kong is not the gorilla My dad laughed at that every time So that's one of the reasons I remembered it The headlining co-stars of the show were Forrest Tucker and Larry Storch Who had been the headlining co-stars of another sitcom 10 years earlier called F-Troop and That is still how they are introduced today Forrest Tucker passed away in the 1980s Larry Storch is still with us But this is the year 2016 But what happened? What about this original Ghostbusters that you've never seen and nobody's ever told you about? I got in touch with an actual expert who is the official unofficial historian of Filmation Studios His name is Andy Mangles. Let him tell you the story In 1982 Columbia Pictures announced that they were doing a movie of Ghostbusters written by Dan Akroyd and The lawyer for Filmation whose name was Ira Epstein Immediately got in touch with them and said you're infringing on our title We would Hold you liable if there's any kind of similarity in concept. So Columbia pressured Filmation and its parent company to drop the letter and then they didn't get anywhere. So Nothing was really done in October 1983 Ira Epstein the lawyer was in New York and he was actually walking down the street and Walked literally walked into the filming of Ghostbusters So he as soon as he got back to the office. He sent off a letter to Columbia and said, hey We told you that we own the rights to Ghostbusters and you don't so and now you're filming this movie and We have an objection to that and Columbia said well you're doing this animated Saturday morning show And we're doing this live-action movie and it's called it's called Ghostbusters There's nothing to do with your animated show and Filmation said whoa, wait a minute. No The Ghostbusters was a live-action show It has everything to do with your movie because it's the exact same concept You just don't have an ape in yours or a gorilla in yours. So Columbia had apparently been filming the movie with Alternate dialogue where they were called ghost breakers or ghost smashers or things like that In anticipation of exactly this problem. So Columbia knew there was a problem They just kept trying to stonewall Filmation and kept saying no, no, no, that's not it They released the movie in June 1984 without having made a deal with Filmation Filmation went after Columbia in court and Columbia settled with Filmation ended up paying $608,000 for the use of the concept and The use of the name and title Additionally, Filmation was supposed to get 1% of the profit for Ghostbusters and any future Ghostbusters Property merchandising, you know, etc Now in Hollywood, you may know that That profit percentage is a tricky thing No movie has ever made a profit as far as Hollywood accounting is concerned including Star Wars including the Wizard of Oz etc The way the accountants work it is that that no movie ever does make a profit So although Filmation had 1% profit They actually never saw a dime no matter how successful Ghostbusters was and there was another mistake that they made in the Settlement they did not lock down the rights for ancillary animated properties Because they didn't think That Ghostbusters as a movie would be popular enough to create an animated series in 1985 Filmation announced a syndicated series for their own Ghostbusters cartoon based on the original live-action series and a week later Columbia announced they were going to be doing their own Ghostbusters cartoon series now Columbia was already in multiple legal issues over Ghostbusters they had Harvey Comics was suing them over the logo similarity to one of the characters from in the ghost Casper's ghostly trio and Huey Lewis was suing them over the fact that the theme song by Ray Parker Jr sounded so much like one of his songs and Then they had this lingering thing going on with Filmation So Filmation went to them and said Hey, we're an animation studio. You already need an animation studio We're also the people who own the Ghostbusters, which you do not Except for our agreement But why don't you just do the Ghostbusters with us? The problem was that there was an executive at the company Westinghouse that owned Filmation And they said why do we need to do an agreement with them? We'll just continue to do our own Ghostbusters. Let them do their own. They won't ever get anywhere with it Of course as we know both Ghostbusters shows hit the air the real Ghostbusters was Columbia's version based on the movie and Ghostbusters was the Filmation version based on the old live-action TV series both of them are on the air at the same time It really confused people neither neither company was tremendously happy with the outcome Because in 1984 when Columbia settled out of court for the use of the concept and title and name for Ghostbusters They there was no blockage of an animated property. So It was a costly lesson for Filmation to learn in that sense because had they just put in language that said you may not produce an animated property without Using utilizing Filmation Studios or you may not produce an animated property at all Then that wouldn't have ever happened But because in the settlement there was no provision that said Columbia couldn't produce an animated property. They were able to go ahead and do so because they had paid that fee $608,000 for the concept the name and the title Nobody would argue that Ghostbusters 1984 was the biggest hit of the year and the biggest moneymaker According to box office mojo, you had a budget of 30 million and over its lifetime It's made almost 300 million but according to the Hollywood accounting by Columbia Pictures as Andy referenced They say the movie has lost money Hollywood accounting is a very real and recognized thing. It's so well recognized that it even has its own entry on Wikipedia Take a look. You'll be horrified So my thing is I liked the new Ghostbusters when it came out in 1984 But today I have problems with it because of the sexual harassment content and because Columbia pictures never paid the Creators and I always have problems with people who don't pay creators Marvel and Disney So this new new Ghostbusters that's coming out later this month. I see some people who say it's a Sony picture I see some people who say it's a Columbia picture. I don't know. I'm not interested in it I'm not interested in general in new movies, especially new comedies They're not good. They're not funny But I do have some free movie passes for donating blood. I may use that I Want to thank Andy Mangels for his help and I want to thank Jerry Beck for putting me in touch with Andy This has been fun for me. 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