 All right, I think let me start a few things from my side. So hi, this is Ravi. I'm being part of a Hyperledger I18 project. So the I18 project is usually used to do language translations from the native speakers. So since we have a global language as English, so the documents are available, but still we consider that there are many countries that many people still are looking for native mother tongue. They want to read the documentation on their own mother tongue. So that's where the I18 project has started, I believe so. And so currently there are around seven translations group in this I18 project. So whereas I'm representing Tamil language translations, and Yang was doing for Chinese, and we have Anina for Malayalam, and we have Alfonso from Latin America. So that's all I know that. So these people where started this language translations to show up, to translate the fabric or any hyperledger projects. So most of them are currently in fabric now. So that's why I used to connect with them. And so why this is very important, language translation is very important to me, right? So when I was started Hyperledger, some of them are very grammatical, deep understanding requires, but when you do translate in your own mother tongue, that gives a core depth of the knowledge that you gain out of it. And when you do represent or when you represent into somebody's or if you want to do on core, the core that you learn on your own mother tongue is going to help you to do what you want to. So as I said, like, so language is not a barrier for anything that you like to do here, right? So that is all about it. And you know, and there's a one proverb are when there's a most of the history about it and most of the achievers who speak, whom we speak today are the ones who have learned everything on their own mother tongue and they have achievers we are talking about. So that's where I strongly believe that learning the new technologies are blockchain and my self-learning that takes place in our own native language gives a deeper understanding and it was the greatest research in this particular area. That is where we want to convert this translation part of it. So that's all about it. And currently we did a lot of researches because when we go and approach some people, they will say, why the computer is completely English language? So why you like to do translations? That's what people used to ask. But that is where I keep used to say that, understanding and their own mother tongue languages gives a different elevation of the subject. So that is where I used to tell and I give some examples to them. I translate that into their own mother tongue that then they've been signed up with the programs. That's where I'm doing it about it. So that's, of course, this is what I'm doing it. That's all about from you. I think probably you can take from here. Yes, okay. Actually, I plan to talk. Actually, I kind of find the translation page. So I will try to use English, talk about my experience about translating. So I will talk slowly. Actually, in 2018, I began to learn fabric. At that time, there's not many learning materials for learning fabric or something else, blockchain platform. But in China, our mother language is Chinese. In Asia, many, many developers are not good at English. So I think they have the same problem with me. I have to read the English documents harder and learn the fabric slowly. But fortunately, I can read English better. So I learned the fabric by the documents and then when I understand fabric and know how to use it and just like I know how to build the network manually, then I, at first, I read blogs. After that, I found there is a work group in China. It is TWGC, Technical Work Group China. So I connect the members in TWGC and I know that they have internationalization group, subgroup, and their work is translate the documents from English to Chinese. So when I know that, I think it is a good job. It's very, very good for Chinese developers. So I joined them. I began to translate the documents from one point to one point two, then in 2019, I began, I tried to organize the volunteers in community and translate the documents until about 2020. We finished the whole documents of version 1.4. 2 and we translate the whole, the documents into Chinese and I told that good news to the Happy Ledger Foundation, they think that is very good. So they make a tweet in Twitter and I'm very happy I see that. After that, after finish the 1.4.2, we began to translate 2.2.0 because they are really have many difference. Even the documents, there are many updates. And now the volunteers in TWGC have translated almost all the 2.2.0 documents. I think it's really a big work. Many of the documents are many words. Yes, that's my experience to translate the fabric documents. And I'm very, thanks the volunteers in TWGC very much because they made many, they paid many work. Yes, and actually translate the documents is a very hard work because the work, the documents, some documents are very, very long. For me, when I translate an article, at least I will spend two hours and then I have to ask another translator to review the documents. And actually, we usually have two times I translate a review and then I translate, I translate the, I cracked the mistakes and then he review again. And actually one article will two days later then update to the GitHub. Hello. Hello. Hi Alfonso. Alfonso. Hi Alfonso. Hi. Good morning. Good afternoon. We are waiting for you so we can talk just now. Yes, I was sent from the green room to another room. What do we do now, Jesse? So I think Alfonso, so we were discussing about our experiences. So how we engage with the IE project and what is the benefit? Wait, I am in the other room, Jesse. I am in the other room. Okay. Yes, I can hear you. You were talking about, you were talking to us? Sorry guys, I don't know what's going on. You're talking to us, Alfonso, you were talking to us or you were talking in another chat, other group? Rabi Chan, I am lost. Okay. I arrived an hour ago almost to the green room. We did all the checking, I was sent to another room. Now I'm sent here and I have left the other room open because I have the chat. I don't know what to do. I think you are only live. So I think you have to close other groups. Probably if you close the tabs that will you open this tab aside and close other tabs, that will you? Oh, I already did, okay. But what I don't understand is are we live? Yes, we are live. Good. So for the recording, fine. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you very much for experimenting with the new technology. It's always good to have this things happen, okay. We do believe in technology even when it plays tricks on us. Thank you very much. This panel is a call for translations because we believe that the translate is to include, to understand, to learn and to save resources. This Hyperledger Latino America hosts these forums to review worldwide experience translating Hyperledger fabric and to explore future strategies to engage more translators. This is a compliment and a continuation of what Anthony O'Dowd began two years ago for the fabric documentation working. With us we have Jan, which is the chairman of the technical working group of China, and Hyperledger, blockchain engineer at China Academy of Information and Communication Technology and software engineer at Supermax. We have Ravi Vasakham, which is an enthusiastic creator to blockchain initiatives, experienced by professions, self-motivated, open to technology challenge, backend developer and general engineer from Chennai, India, co-founder and CTO of KS Tech, CTO of Enact and Use Solutions, vice-president of JPMorgan Chase. We have great Anina to be with us. We have Anina, a blockchain evangelist who educates and inspires a growing community. And she has led a lead role in translating Hyperledger fabric documentation to Malaya Lam, native language of India, state of Kerala. She's a member of Hyperledger India chapter and St. Gidd's College of Engineering at Kerala. Guys, we would like to hear what you have done, what your problems have been, how you have solved them, what solutions you apply, and what did you think for the future? I do believe that we cannot fight for decentralization imposing one language. We have to recognize that there is a language barrier in the world, and to break that barrier, we have to translate. And you have been pioneers in some of the eight languages that Hyperledger fabric has been translating to. Please share your experiences. Yann, would you like to go first? Actually, before I come here, I talk to that with Ravi Omumand. Okay, yes. Would you like, Ravi, did you speak before? I was in another room. Okay, I will share my experience again. No, I have a script in my script. Actually, I plan to share my experience in Chinese, but I think the translation page is not a work. So I decided to share my experience in English. And fortunately, I have a script in my computer. So I will, no, I began to share my experience. Hello, everyone. Actually, I have been studied blockchain technology since 2018 from Fabric. At that time, we don't have much more learning materials but the official documents. And partial documents are translated by TWC volunteers. Because there is an internationalization subgroup in TWC, that is a work group of Hyperledger under the full name is Technical Work Group China. But actually, Fabric is updated so quick that I have to read the English version documents. And it is really not easy for me because in China, our mother language is Chinese. So I think that is the same as many other Chinese developers. So when I learned and understand the Fabric from by reading the English language documents, then I decided to make some contributions to the community and began to translate the documents so that other developers can learn Fabric more easier. And actually, translating is not an easy work. It always, it will spend me at least two hours to translate one article for me. And then I will ask another translator to review the documents. And usually it will spend about two days to translate one article. But actually there are many volunteers in TWC and since now from about 2017, there are totally about 200 translators, there are volunteers in TWC. We are now in WeChat group. And after that work, finally, we finished the Fabric documents version 1.4.2. We translate the whole documents into Chinese. And now it is integrated in the Fabric official documents. We can select the Chinese language from the left side. And now the Fabric version 2.2.0 is almost translated, is almost finished. And after the 2.2.0 version documents finished, we will update that from 2.2.0 to 2.3.0 or 2.4.0. And for me, the process of translating is also a process of learning. I have been translating the documents since 2019, and I'm very familiar with the documents. So I passed the Certificate Hyperledia Fabric Administrator, it is a C-H-F-A exam and passed the exam, yes. And also my contribution in translations and make me elected as co-chairman of TWC in 2021. And the communicates trust me and believe I can do more contributions in the documents and something else in the future. I think that is what's my experience in translations. Thank you. Thank you very much. It's amazing you've already done so much. And it's great to hear that you have 200 volunteers. Ravi, Anina, who wants to go first? Yes. Thank you, John. I'll start now. Thank you. So I mean, it was very interesting and to be part of this program. And I was really excited to do and I was surprised that I would be here on this part. Now, I started this journey of what Hyperledia is like starting my own tool more about the blockchain. And it was always the version of 1.4.2, I think if I'm not wrong. So that was the early stage I started and it was very hard to learn about the fabric because the documentation was in English and it was very deep. Some of the documents are very deep in English so it's very hard to understand what the core of the explanation about it. So what I did was during that time I was did some translate that into my mother language, I can say. So when I do mother language, when I do read repeatedly multiple times, then I was able to understand the core of the fabric, how it is being designed and how it is architectured. So that's helped me a lot understanding of what the fabric design and how it is working with the workflow. So I decided to start learning from there and later the part I was approached that, okay, so this is the one thing that most of the people in the country that they were struggled to learn this blockchain because blockchain is a new to the industry and so some of the people who are on the other side that they are still not able to speak English are not able to hard to read understanding the English. So probably they may feel the same thing but I faced it. So I decided that, so why don't we convert this into the Tamil translation group so the people who can, I know who read that in their own mother tongue will definitely understand the core of the blockchain, how the design works for the fabric part. So that's why I was in this part of the language translation and currently I was able to reach most of the people and currently we have around three people in the team because we recently started this language translation and currently we have three signups in the translation and we are in the conversion of the program of fabric version 2.2. That's where we are in this part. So the one thing I would say that learning through mother tongue always gives a deeper understanding when you learn with the other global language here because we know the mother language, we know the global language in English which understands but the core if you read the documentation of your own mother tongue will gives a deep insight of the core of the meaning of the word that they have been explained. So that gives me a pleasure to be part of this program and I was doing this to people who can non-speak global languages, non-speak English people who can start into the blockchain and get the more people into the inside of this part. Thank you. Yes, Alfonso. Me too. So we actually started this effort to enable address the region-specific contribution barrier as you mentioned earlier and so we decided to translate the technical documentations to Malayalam which is a language in Kerala which is a southern. So we actually did it to translate the technical contents of Malayalam so that this becomes more accessible to people in the region and maybe they can use it as Ravi said when it is presented in their mother tongue it will be easier for them to grab. So we kind of first approached David and Anthony and they were so supportive and they helped us to get going. So the main challenge that we faced first is that the community is truly of the role of contribution. Say many of them, since I'm from a developing country like India people don't know what the actual potential of a community is. So that was the first challenge that we faced and the second challenge that we faced was the process of having members with knowledge necessary to deal with these things such as some of them may not be familiar with RTDs they won't be familiar with read the docs or they won't be familiar with the appropriate tools so we found that a challenge and we actually found it a great challenge to educate them to kind of use those stuff. Since the documentation is getting updated in a rapid manner, efforts are being done from our end especially since I'm from academy I'm representing Sengith group of institutions. We have a couple of students who are actually working towards documentation because of the fact that the documentation is getting updated in a rapid manner we are actually trying to develop a translation tool which is specifically based on AI because if you're translating and using Google translate sometimes those sentences won't be meaningful or logical so we are actually trying to develop our own AI based tools so that we may be able to translate in a better way. So currently we have almost 20 to 25 people who are working towards this but the main challenge that we actually face is to find it difficult to kind of translate every single page and that is why we are in an effort to kind of develop AI based tools for that. Yeah, that's it. And I'm so happy that I'm actually a part of this Hyperlegic community and thank you. Thank you, Anina. We're very short on time unfortunately because of this situation at the beginning but I'm very glad that you were able to share with the Hyperlegic community all these examples. The example of China with 200 volunteers it's an example on putting together a crowd that really can help a lot and not only it's the numbers of... but it's the fact of what Ravi said that when one learns through our mother language the understanding is definitely more deeper, goes deeper into our brain, into our soul. And Anina, you could not be more precise of the three things that you said. Definitely we have to learn because we're not aware and especially in the developing world or the global south that is politically correct said now. We are not aware of the role of contributions. The example of Yang with 200 volunteers it's something that we have to learn in our countries that we can put together a truly community effort to do things together. And I understand the second thing you said Anina is that having members with knowledge and in that sense academia plays definitely a role and it's definitely a breeding ground for those volunteers because we're teaching them not only about technology but we're teaching them about the role of contribution and we're teaching them about the role of their mother language in understanding of things. And of course we have to advance with translation tools. But I think unfortunately Otavio Oliveira could not join us because he was going to share what he has been doing with translation tools and with AI. But I would say as a closing note that yes we have to advance technology and tools but if we take the problem of language as a problem of coordination and collaboration really advancing a lot field of fabric translation but in the creation of an open source spirit and an open source community. In six minutes everyone has to go to another session so even though I would like to continue much more than the original 30 minutes that we didn't have but I would say this is the first of many more meetings we should have for Tower of Babel. If you want to have concluding remarks Jan, Anina, Ravi, please do so. No, Ravi says no. Jan would you like to add something else? Anina? I say something that translations is very, very helpful for different developers in different languages. So please join us and do more translations. And contribute more for the community. Thank you. So as Jan told, we are actually trying to address the language barrier and I am actually calling out all the community members who are especially in Kerala to join us and to spread the word about community enhancement and all. Thank you. Thank you very much guys. It's all of you. And let's continue this effort. Thank you. Bye bye.