 Hello everyone, I am Steve welcome back to another episode of Retro Tech So today I might be doing the most important CRT video I've ever done and if you've seen some of my videos in the past and you might know that's a pretty big statement But first before we get to that, please if this is your first time to the channel Do consider subscribing to us and hit that bell so you know when new content comes out I make a lot of videos and So if you're not on that Notification list you might miss some of those and something important if you care about CRTs or retro gaming or Collectibles or anything that's got retro Technology involved. Also if you are already a subscriber, I do appreciate all the support to the channel as well as the likes and The comments have been great. So let's just go right into this as I said this is one of the most important episodes I've ever done about CRTs and It's how I pack and ship a 20 inch CRT monitor if you're watching this then maybe you're considering like buying a Sony PVM or BVM online or from somewhere and You're wondering how to ship it how should my seller ship it How do I ship one if I end up selling one my real reason behind putting this is I really it just it hurts Might hurts me to see You know a PVM or BVM just get destroyed by shipping because someone underestimated how to pack it properly It had no idea how to use it or do it. So Let's just go ahead and start walking around here because I mean look at this thing. Let's just Get the Camera up here. I mean the reason you don't want to underestimate shipping this look at how fragile Just look at how fragile the inside of this P of PVM here this is just even a smaller one and So much glass anything in here can get damaged and just completely ruin the PVM not to mention a slight bump could knock the thing out of settings very easily and Then you that could just be from proper improper packing Procedures the reason I'm making this specific one is because I've sold this 20 inch PVM here and I have to pack it and So I wanted to do a video on how to properly pack this thing so That's what we're doing today. I'm gonna pack it up So if you liked again if you want to see this stick with us If if you're not interested in seeing how to pack a PVM then this won't be the video for you Otherwise sit back and relax while we're going through it. I'll do some discussions PVM related stuff. So First we're going to go and take a look at the materials. I use to pack the PVM So the first part of this video We're going to go through what we're using as far as materials and things to have to pack up the Sony PVM or whatever CRT TV monitor Etc that you're considering shipping You're going to need at least this these materials here You could use other materials if you have them available sometimes things like pool foam Accessories, you know like noodles The problem is there's none for sale right now. So I can't get my hands on any I have to use these standard materials I'm gonna make sure you get a lot of good tape and I mean when I pack I'll usually go through two Rolls maybe a little bit more on you want to get a good tape roller and some scissors But when I'm packing a 20-inch PVM going to get some good Quality decent quality bubble wrap It's good to have a mix of bubble wrap if possible, but you can also compensate that by stuffing in Packing peanuts and I've got bags and bags of packing peanuts here So we will we're going to use that method today, but so I've got a unique setup here and When I pack a PVM It's always best to be able to stack it up high a little bit and make sure you have a good round space around you so you can It'd be a little bit easier for you to wrap the bubble wrap around like I do it here But again, this is not the only way to do it. You could do it other ways I'm just saying this is the most effective way I have to Make sure that you give this thing the best chance It's got to make it safely to its destination if you don't do this correctly You'll fail the insurance test and you could lose out on Any kind of coverage that you would possibly have through any shipping company if you don't package it properly so let's just go ahead and get started and Again, I just start with a little bit of tape So I'll cut off a little bit of tape here a couple sections of tape I'll use my bubble wrap And I had to I couldn't use my lapel microphone for this so if there's any sound or Any kind of quality issues like that? I apologize, but if not then hopefully it'll sound okay, but I had to Take it off because I wasn't able to It wasn't a long enough extension cord on it. So I Like to just put some bubble wrap around it to begin with And it's okay to put a little tape on it on the back to keep it, you know attached I'm kind of overlap it down there at the bottom corner of The PVM to get it started and then I Will take my bubble wrap here and go around the whole entire thing like this a few times to start and This is just getting a good base cushion on the monitor Again, you don't want to underestimate this because I mean, you know these little steps Could keep the monitor safe if Something happened and it was dropped so that's enough to start with and then we'll do our next step So just pick a good spot pull off your bubble wrap and I get another little piece of tape and I will attach this up here to the back And now I'm going to show you something else that I start doing so Now you can see I've got somewhat Hold that under there similar to protection on this monitor because Down here at the corners are going to be an extreme weak point If something were to happen and you pack it improperly those can get damaged very easily and they often do Even if nothing else happens the bezel can get damaged You just don't want to do that because it's hard to get these parts anymore. There's no manufacturer There's not really any back stock that I'm aware of but so just make sure that you know you're going to get started down there and Then You kind of make some pockets in here around the screen, so you see that's a pocket I Need to take it down at the bottom There so I can make my pocket pouch So kind of tighten it up somewhat down here and then I'll show you Be a little bit more efficient With the packing So I'll show you the point of this tape is Because I'm going to start using my packing peanuts now The goal now is going to be to just stuff these down in here inside this monitor Because these packing peanuts are relatively cheap if you get a lot of them so they're good for filler if you can't find other stuff and People just like to see newer packaging anyway professional-looking packaging when they buy something like this, but see I just like to stuff This down in these corners, you know stuff it down there on those couches. That's extra And that's the way I build up the protection around the monitor so Just stuffing This in here I don't know right you never thought she probably sitting around watching somebody pack a a monitor, but this again is important I've had to also get on eBay and buy PBMs and have them shipped to me and You know unfortunately sometimes things happen and I understand I've had them break and I've had people like yeah ship tons of them and they still show up broken and You know when you're relying on something Just show up. It's disappointing because again these things are hard to find and sometimes like me for example I might be looking for a specific one for somebody and Take months to find it and finally do and the shipper busts it up and you still get your money back But is then you got to look for it all over again, so If you're but if you're considering but sometimes you just got to bite the bullet and try to get one on eBay You know if you're gonna buy one in eBay make sure you communicate with the seller Make sure they're a lot and you know up front on what the exact condition is Don't be afraid. You know Just wait for somebody else to show up you know occasionally I do have ones that come up for sale and I Have to basically I have to put them on eBay for now, but you know, hopefully that'll change soon But This would be good for our first pass. Let's see. We got a good pouch here built up who comes through here And go over it again that way we're gonna have a real good cushion on there and we'll put some more around the bottom of that monitor, but They put that down And get the other stuff So yeah, I wouldn't anticipate this to be a short video if you've already noticed by now So again, I appreciate you staying with me shipping and how much it really really does cost Ship them. It's hard to it's hard to guess. I mean look at these things. They're so massive So keep hunting my advice to anyone is Don't make a crazy rash decision, but do realize that these things They're they're getting harder to get Retro gaming is not the only people they're not the only people that buy them anymore and That means when something gets rarer and harder to find and And if more people want it then the prices keep going up and that's what's happened with All the CRTs and PBMs over the last two or three years Because there was a time where people were just begging to get rid of these things and now anybody who has any kind of knowledge knows that they're sitting on you know worst-case scenario Some money if they're working right even if they need to be calibrated and Service get some more tape so I still believe and You know a lot of people will say I've been hunting and I finally found a CRT and So here's a couple things, you know first off like I was saying don't don't make a rash decision so if you need to get just a Standard consumer television to hold you over so you can find a decent PBM deal or just save up to pay money for one that you know is going to be in good shape And take the time. It's like anything else just be patient So if you do that you're gonna you're gonna You're gonna have a better experience and like I said if you get that consumer CRT, then you can actually start Servicing that and get familiar with that before you get into the high-end ones And then you know, you're not even worried basically if you you know do a little damage to the consumer CRT because there are particularly Super rare as of yet at least nowhere near as rare as these monitors So keep that in mind if you're thinking about getting one Don't rush into anything unless you really got to have it and want it And work those peanuts around in there then a nice nice front base and now I'm gonna work on I'm gonna flip it around but The good thing like I say if you get a consumer CRT is you can get yourself used to service work on it and Be more comfortable Then once you do get a sony PBM or BDM you can save a little money maybe because The one you get might not be fully calibrated if you get it find one and then you can you know get a better deal that way If you know how to fix it yourself So that's a good thing about getting a still getting it an older CRT I Think it's just to be able to get used to working on because The whole reason I even got into CRTs in the first place Was because well, I really enjoyed the way it looks I saw I was like man I gotta have something to scan lines, but Also, they had You know the thing you get into is you find out that there's no one that knows how to work on them, you know probably Where you live? That's the way it is for me. So that's why I had to personally get into servicing them Myself and then I just fell into people that had lots of them or you know, it's persistent and I'll just put a bunch of dealers out I'll talk some more about ways to get PVMs and go on Because now the next step so I've got a pillow here, this is just a standard pillow and Need to move this screen So I like to do this put it on the pillow Rather than just put it on the face of itself yet Hipping it up. I'm gonna make sure you don't have it too crooked. So it falls right back So I just need to get some tape around the bottom of this real quick But it is saying it is safe to put CRTs face down like that Actually, you'll see that that's how I'm gonna ship this is face down Because that's gonna give it's the best chance To survive I called surviving to survive this long trip. I'm gonna do this a little bit first Let's kind of go around the bottom first again similarly to how I did on the front screen a little bit at a time So I want to get some good Not so concerned about the top, but I am always concerned about the bottom of these getting bumped into Go there so it's about half the screen and the hunk of tape and We're back around and we're just gonna keep Going around and just keep stuffing it so I'm gonna show you the back because Back here is where I'm gonna be stuffing next some more stuff. I'll tape it down here like I did in the front I'll stuff that back up I'll stuff a little bit see it's already thick here, but I'll stuff a little bit more down in here I got this pouch right here. I just stuff it in and fill it up and then I'll go back around it with some more bubble wrap and Then I'll put it back on its Front and wrap it again and put some in the back and we'll get it all ready and taped up to throw in the box Okay, so now I'm back. I've got the tube ready to Be put in the box. Let's just walk around it real quick and Show you what it looks like I did have to mark the top Under there I did mark it top and then an arrow so the screen sides right here and you can just see I mean this thing so It's gonna go inside a 24 by 24 by 24 box And then I'll probably double and and I might even triple box it the last time I triple boxed it I triple box it and there's never a problem Double boxing. Yeah, you never know even with double boxing so But that's pretty much how it looks I mean let's go ahead. I want to show you something. I'll set the camera down I've got my tape measure here Let's just see how we're doing on size so we're at about 20 two and a half Average on the sides, which is great And in this direction We're gonna do the same thing and again my screen is right here in front of me So it's gonna be the one that's on the bottom so That's pushing 24 inches which is understandable because that's a longer thing But see that gives us so much padding And then when I put it in the box, I'll show you I'll brace it with some hard styrofoam that's recycled Okay, everybody, so let's first take a look here. We got our Boxes in today and to the right. There's our packaged up PVM so Here's our box This is just one of the boxes, but this is a 24 by 24 by 24 inch box and I wanted to tape up the bottom first a little bit and this one Will either be at least double boxed maybe triple boxed So that just means I'll put it inside this box and then I'll cover that box with another 24 by 24 At least double box now what I want to show you on this box is the reason I'm considered double box I have triple boxed them before But that's when I only get a single wall box So this is actually a double wall box. You see how there's this one wall and then you've got a middle line and then another Wall right there how it's to the walls together the inside one's a little thinner than the outside But that's a double wall box and it's actually a little bit tougher a lot tougher actually in a single wall box So keep that in mind. It does cost a little bit more money. These two boxes are about $10 apiece directly from FedEx So what I'll do is I'll put some packing peanuts inside there And then I'll take a shot of that when I get that filled up And then we'll move mr. Smiley face over here in the box and I'm going to be shipping it with the screen Face down that's the most Efficient safest way to prevent damage to the PVM if you pack it package it properly is to ship it with the glass side Down in the box on the bottom. So again, we'll show you that here close up Let me go ahead and start packing up this box a little bit more So I've put some materials in here. Let's take a closer look. You can see what I've done Just some packing peanuts in the bottom there and some extra bubble wrap a couple feet rolled up for the middle. So when I sit the glass down in there, it's got a three or four inches of Bubble already in the front of it But let's just go ahead and get this Moved in there and I'll let you see me put it in there. I'm just going to lift it up and slide it down in there You can see there it fits in there really nicely. Let's take a closer look now So it's down in there and I'll just go through here and fill up this with some extra packing and on each side I'll show you what I use to stabilize it because you still got a good gap there. I Actually break up pieces of this Old styrofoam and I'll break off little pieces that are flat and actually use those to stabilize the box Inside and then I'll fill fill it with packing peanuts So let me pack it up with the styrofoam that I break off and then we'll come back take a look at it and We will finish off for box number one Okay, so part one is done with that Step where I'm adding this styrofoam See down in there. I know it looks a little goofy, but it's actually jammed out in those corners towards the bottom And I've got a flatter piece this side More corner pieces down there to wedged Flat piece the side corner pieces so I do that around every side now And now I'll go fill in around that With some extra packing peanuts in here and then fill that all up and then at the top here I'll probably do the same kind of bracing thing with some more pieces of styrofoam So let's get that step done and we'll come back and take a look at it right before we close it up Okay, so we're back. I've got it filled up. I just want to show you something I'm including a power cable. Of course. I'll put that in an envelope here. This is open first Everybody also gets a nice little personalized Thank-you card for me written nice little retro tech sticker there, so Put all this together And we're gonna put this in the box right now first and show you that Okay, so let's take a look over here now It's good and packed in there you can see I told you I put more star foam in the corners under that packaging It's got a little bit extra Bubble wrap on top along with the envelope down there because again, this is the back of the bottom monitor That's the bottom portion where there's the indentation for the input so it'll fit in there nicely I'm just gonna tape this top up and but that's all I'm gonna do for the inside packaging on this box again I will tape this up now and And then we'll put it in the second box and I'll label the second box I'll show you how I do that. That'll be pretty brief But just know you're just trying to make this thing have just so much protection Because I know that some people are gonna say all this is too much too overkill Well, it's not because this I'm trying to build this thing to survive a long trip And it you know it could see it this way It still could survive if somebody accidentally dropped it a little bit or fell over and it was put back up in the right spot Man, this is gonna give it the best chance to make it in this kind of packaging is gonna meet the insurance specifications So if there is a problem The person receiving it all they need to do is keep the packaging in for me And then I form FedEx get them a refund and as long as they keep the packaging the insurance is fully covered on this So That's the reason to put all the extra time and effort and money into packing this PVM correctly Okay, so there's the first box taped up and you can kind of see how we still got this you know, it's over 24 inches on the top and That's fine because what we're gonna do then is we're gonna put our second box on top of this box and I will show you that now But I'm just gonna slide this box Over top of it to make it. So this is just where you're gonna wiggle this thing around and Get the second box on there so It gives it extra protection Let me wiggle this thing on here and I'll come back to it when it's put together Okay, so let's slide this down and hope it doesn't split my bottom box and the top box just packed a little too tight So I don't really want to split my boxes And they are the exact same size because it's not it's hard to get anything bigger than a 24 by 24 Let's see So I have a little bit of overhang. Now. This is the top. So what I'm gonna do See it's still got a little way to go So I'm gonna open the bottoms back up flip it over Floor there we go Top it's so thick. I see now. That's good. That's gonna be perfect. So I'm gonna get it taped up and Then put some labels on it. I'll show you my labels after I get it taped up Okay, so we're about to finish things up here And I've got my sheet I actually just take a marker and white piece of paper and I make four arrows Well, two arrows and I'll cut them in half and I'll put each one of these pointing up on the side of the box As well as well as a fragile sticker and I'll put this do not stack and this side up both on top with a fragile sticker too So let me do that and then we'll come back and check it out completely finished But I wanted to show you those little things I make Okay, here we have it the final finished product It's our do not stack this side up fragile stickers and every side has The up arrow and a fragile and I tape over all that so it can't go anywhere Now FedEx will want to inspect this package, which is fine with me again I'm glad they do because then that just makes sure that my insurance Is working So I want them to inspect it and just tell me that it's okay. Now that does happen. So Again, I know that's there over 30 minutes of looking at how to pack a video or a video monitor CRT you can do this with any size monitor But again, don't ever underestimate Or overestimate the abilities of anybody who's going to touch this thing You need to make sure you get it to where it's almost damage proof Like it is here it would have to be seriously dropped or fall from a high point to damage it severely But it does still happen. This is not indestructible But it's about the best way I've seen to do it and let's just talk about The procedures now we're going to take it to the shipper FedEx office And I'm going to just ship it away. I'm going to insure it for its full value And it'll be covered and so Let's talk about the costs a little bit again Just go over what it was. So you're looking at about $20 in materials to package the pvm. That's the bubble wrap and the packing peanuts and then You're looking at another $5 in tape about two rolls of tape is what you're going to end up using So then you've got your two boxes, which these double wall boxes are $10 a piece. So that's another $20 So you're looking at an average of $45 to preferably pack this pvm to make sure that it's going to survive its trip. So Again, there are other ways you could cut corners. So if you have any good ideas, please leave them in the comments below But this is the way I recommend it and this is just a good estimation on What you can do yourself if you're going to ship one to make sure it makes it Or gives it its best chance to make it and it's always better to be safe than sorry when you're dealing with something so rare But please know that I'll update you in a future video on how it survived or not If you do get this pvm or the one who bought it then congratulations and I hope you enjoy it And everybody, please have a wonderful day