 Never gets old 22 year vet in the league eight time all star joining us now great color Vince Carter That's just a man off the screen. I tried to do something a little different man. I know we're all boring with our What's crazy Okay, we started the show rightfully so with Dame Lillard's game winning shot It was his fourth all-time from three and only one player has more buzzer-bitting threes in his career They even got to slow down a little bit Shoot the two man No, no, are you nervous? Are you nervous? He's coming for you. No, I mean, you know records are made to be broken I know at some point it's gonna happen and that's what dame does I mean he has the ability to shoot the three-point shot from the line to half court and anywhere in between Oh, I remember this one one of my favorites That I told coach I was going for the three for the win. He's like, all right, cool But uh, yeah, the game has that ability. I mean, he's he's a clutch player Not afraid of the big moment regardless of who's on the court. What who's he around? So, yeah, I expect to not to last long Where's the Dallas one in the corner over there by the bench? Oh, I'm sure to show up. I'm sure to show up Chandler remembers all of them. I was the last one The the Lakers it's just been a weird year for the Lakers. I think that's fair to say they've lost seven of their last ten and we know that Anthony Davis took the responsibility for Saturday's loss to the jazz but What's going on whose fault is it? Can you put the blame even in one place? I Personally don't think you can put the the fault in one place I mean naturally it happens and the first person they look at is the coach And why can't you get this team, you know together? Why can't you win with all this talent? But I think it's a it's a mixture of everything and and we saw last year We were in this same situation where they were losing they look at the coach and then all of a sudden, you know Just like I say, well, it's now the GM's responsibility to fix this problem. You have to fix this problem You see that it's not working in the locker room. You see guys, whatever You give them their chance and now it's time to kind of put it together to make your run because February if not, excuse me I'm used to February being halfway but all-star break is Coming around the corner and then once all-star break gets here. It's all about getting in position So I think they need to kind of figure out what they want to do now move some pieces Well, I know we hear whispers of different guys that they want But I think it's a mixture of everything confidence. Obviously. We're here LeBron being disgruntled But you're gonna have to figure this out that every all the the masterminds behind moving people gonna sit down and figure it out immediately in my opinion It's it's crazy because the in-season tournament was literally 20 minutes ago It feels like but the season ended today. They're not even in the play-in vents I it's weird to imagine a world especially now where LeBron doesn't make it further into any kind of a little season Can you see it? I'm gonna say why I think in my opinion. I think it's a it's a it's a sample size So it's like once the playoffs get here you your focus changes You know what you have to do when the seed you talk about a longer season You know guys, you know LeBron probably needed to rest or minutes Well, he was playing more minutes to to make sure that they won once they got themselves in position and right now it's just Guys aren't playing. Well, you know, everybody's disgruntled. You're looking here Whatever the situation may be and of course, you're hearing the outside noise which in reality, you know We know well for sure. I well, you've been around both y'all It you know what I got in the game You didn't the outside noise was just people talking not social media and all that stuff and you can turn the TV off It's hard to turn it all off and particularly in LA Yeah, guys that we talked so much about the moves that Polinka made and it looked like a genius and what they were able to Pull off but that that roster is there. So are we thinking that the front office is letting? LeBron down by not doing more is what they did not enough Chandler Like what what is happening and what needs to happen? Well, I think the turnaround that they had last year is kind of why some people are given then some grace Right because you hear all these rumors at the Angelo Russell Rui. They were waiting for that date to come where those guys are available I think they're gonna still make those moves or waiting on gave it to get healthy to put it back in the starting lineup And there's questions is Austin Reeves and do they want to continue to build around him and him be that third fourth option? Or do they include him in a play and kind of take that risk and go and get exactly being or a DeMarge Rose and someone like this So I think Polinka did such a good job turning their season around a lot of people are panicking But when you look at the last 10 games, there are three and seven now you're hearing all these different stories Everyone's disgruntled and LeBron James can't be their best player and their most energizing energized player every single night The frustration is mounting up. So I fully look for them to make a move But a lot of times a player in a locker room. It's obnoxious. Just hearing every day. You're gonna get traded This guy's good. So Dilo has got it trying to stay focused. We see him skip in media. So now he's clearly pissed off So like sometimes just the best play is just to make a move pull the band-aid off And then you have your team moving forward to build with and to try and compete with but right now There's two up in the air for them to succeed Lou are you agreeing with that? I feel like you're shaking. I play Yeah, cuz I've played for the Lakers. It's a completely different environment completely different Level of expectation where you're in that when you're in that purple and gold. Look, this is the Los Angeles Lakers This is America's team when it comes to basketball They have a standard of championships. They don't care about division titles Even though they hung up the end-season tournament banner that was kind of that was kind of funny considering it was the Lakers But this team has such a level of excellence see that they expect they're gonna make moves You know, some of these guys that they championed early on in the season and early on in their careers And they were gonna be this and that it's not working out They're gonna make some moves and they're gonna put LeBron James and Anthony Davis in a position to be championship contenders and championship ready Coming out of that break Hey, I was say one thing real quick. Yeah, you talked about How they're here the Angelo Russell in particular hearing about The rumors all the time and but that's that's our game You know, we can I mean if you think about that for us all the years that we've played we've always You know, I can say I've always heard my name in training in training block And I'm sure you guys have done the same But at some point you got to block that out and play what it's on the front of your jersey until further notice And that's how you get past that, you know I mean yeah, I know every day you pick up a phone and you can see it You can hear it on the news and you here's a whisper But like at some point you have to have that distance like all right cool whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen Let me make sure I'm playing the best basketball I can play whether I'm on this team or I get moved because when you go somewhere else You want to be in rhythm in a groove for your new team as well So I just think you got to be able to figure out you have to be able to block the noise out And it's gonna be the it's a part of the circle around you And I don't know any of these guys who who are frustrated with that their circle But I'm like, let's not talk about that You know what? Build me up and and and sometimes you got to self-motivate yourself a little bit build me up man And and help me get past this and get out of this phone I feel like you're talking to the devil and listen not only that VC I was I was with D'Angelo Russell his rookie year This has been a narrative surrounding his his name since the beginning of time in his NBA career So at this point if I'm here I'm taking that chip on my shoulder and I'm going out there and I'm playing the best Basketball that I could possibly play and give me an opportunity to kind of clean up my name and say listen Y'all got me messed up I'm a valuable piece on this team and I can help this team get from get from point A to point B You know so if I'm him I'm taking that and stride and I'm using that as motivation. I'm just playing better basketball And as you hear it's part of the business all the time But when it comes to you you can see certain guys they get salty and they don't take that But as long as you have the understanding like you're saying Vince and you're playing basketball at the end of the day Right like so you have to stay ready you have to stay motivated You have to block out all that stuff even though nowadays with social media everyone has a voice everyone opinion It's tough and these these guys get frustrated. I Want to make moves, but I don't want there to be any rules in place Vince We're gonna start with you. Nobody's untouchable on this Lakers team. What are you gonna do? I Feel I feel like the first thing you need to do is solidify your your point guard position And not put the expectation on LeBron to be the ball handler and I think Lou said or Channel one of you guys said you can't expect LeBron to do everything Channel you said that the emotional leader you're playing your most minutes with the most energy So I just think think you need to find another floor general And I'm gonna say a guy like a rondo who's not afraid to get in ad space who's not afraid to get in LeBron's face it and and Get those guys correct in moments as well But also be a floor general out there and create for other guys because I feel like at some point You're gonna run LeBron in the ground. He's great. He's one of the best to ever do it But at some point you're gonna have to have somebody to take the pressure off it We always say ad ad. Okay fine. He does it in spurts as well, but you still need a floor general in my opinion and some shooting And some shit. Oh good Lord. Well, who's who's rondo like that you could go get I don't hate Dijonte Murray on this team if I can flip it for Dilo and really in a pick or something for Dijonte Murray He's young. He's going into his prime. He can score. He can facilitate He can defend he kind of fits this culture of this roster because I like their role players like Vince I like Torian Prince. I like cameras those guys know their roles But they need somebody else to kind of set the table. They definitely need LeBron healthy They definitely need Anthony Davis dominating But they do need that rondo Dijonte Murray that kind of that lead guard to take over and also Reeves is great But he's we've seen that he's better off the bench. He's better going to that against second-strength defenses He can score. He can shoot the ball, but I do think they're one trade away I do think they have interesting assets that other teams would like and So for me, it's it listen we have three different opinions on what they should fix That's a bad that's a bad thing because I feel like they're losing a lot of these wing matchups Man, you got to go out there and get you a deros and you got to go get a levine. I'm not it I wouldn't even be mad that you put See I come in that position Someone that can win those wing matchups because at the end of the day I agree with you guys You need a floor general you need somebody who's gonna set the table But we all know LeBron James is gonna bring that ball up the floor and he's gonna control the tempo of the game He's gonna control everything for on both ends of the floor with just his leadership skills and that's that's just how he plays He's gonna be the point guard of that team So for me when he goes out you got to be able to give the ball to somebody in that mid post That's gonna face up that can give you both options to turn around and go get you a bucket and on the other end Of the floor, you know sit down and guard somebody as well And I just feel like you know Prince is a there's a great guy in that position Austin Reeves is a great great guy in that position before the aspirations for the Lakers. They need a big-name guy Yes, or no Vince LeBron wins another title This year or in general ever No, Chandler It's so hard to tell right It's he gonna go to the best team in three years and play you know and play with his son Years I'm just I'm not counting this dude out is still playing three years And the easy answer is no right the Lakers aren't winning this year. Who knows what they're gonna look like next year But man, I'm not counting this dude out to do anything. So you're such a chicken. You are such a chick My answer is no for now, but you know So that's my answer to no for now They're getting so watered down everyone You just go sign a 10-day right now and get a championship and so you don't need I don't know I can't I don't know what's gonna happen two or three years. Oh Really, you don't know what's gonna happen on this day. No Teller gave us all it. Thank you. You gave us all that fluff just not to say Give us a clean. No, are you running for office? What was that Lou? Are you a no or yes? Yeah, no Yeah, look I don't want to just talk about the Lakers struggling because we got a Warriors team that also looks lost and they've admittedly said that Steve Kerr said Steph's already wiped out Vince earlier in the show We're thinking Warriors can never be truly counted out but to think that Steph has already wiped out and hear that Is this team done? There I mean my answer would kind of fill in the what Cp said earlier. I mean you never can count these guys out, but you know, I think they are fragile Hmm. I think they're fragile right now, and I think they need to They need to find some youth in some office I mean, I think a Zack Levine like, you know some pop they need something. You know, we already talked about they're young guys I mean Moody and Kaminga. I think they have potential but my thing with Kaminga, for instance, I think they're trying to make him be a newer version of Dreymon instead of utilizing the skill that he has they want him to be a Creator and making plays and he'll tell you he wants to get buckets. That's what he is So I just think it's just You have to find the pieces that fit with your superstars. I mean if you're gonna if you're gonna keep them You better be nurturing and trying to mature some of your younger guys on the back end coming up because right now it's just Where are they? They're gonna at best. I think they're gonna be in the middle of the pack And obviously when you get to the playoffs anything can happen because of their experience But I think a lot of a lot of it honestly guys to my this is my opinion I think Dreymon plays a huge role because yes, he's the floor general on the defensive end Like he said offensively, he's gonna make a big difference But I think what it's doing right now It's wearing step down because he's trying to answer the question on the court But answer those whispers and talks off the court as well. I am a leader. I am me. I can't do this I can't do that. You know, it's just it's a lot going on So I think they're gonna need the best version of Dreymon, but I think they're they're middle of the pack at best right now So are they cooked or not? They're not burnt bacon. They're not burnt bacon, man. They're not Go ahead Lou if if wiped out is if wiped out is 27 points a game. I would love to be white I would love to be wiped out. I think this is I think this is a smokescreen I think Steve Kerr is trying to unarm everybody and he's gonna sneak in at play in with Steph Curry being wiped out at 27 points a game Yeah, so it's a good version. Well, hold on because the cominga thing is like he's what we've already heard You know, he was a little bit disillusioned didn't love what was going on He and Steve Kerr had a talk But they have like three of the best vets of all time on that team if you guys are on that team What are you telling cominga like what are you getting him to understand so hopefully this thing can smooth Vince? I Mean you're just constantly first of all you just got to figure out how he ticks because you can't you I've learned and Lou you you've been in young long young locker rooms as well Everybody isn't wired the same and then from there you just kind of just figure it out You got to talk through situations good and bad when he comes out when he's frustrated. Well once they it's just Young guys are harder to talk to now because of the money that make it man. It's just the reality Yeah, it's it's it's just hard to go in the locker room as a veteran and especially I mean they have a lot of them That are proven and and you would think when those guys taught you listen and they do but at the same time They're like, yeah, but you know and in comminga situation. I could go out there and get buckets I could score. I can go get buckets like you and I think When you go to go say correct me guys if I'm wrong you you fall in the pecking order In that system, you know of priority scoring and comminga feels like he's a guy that should be high priority Putting the ball in the basket and that's not what they're asking of him right now And you know what? Yeah, have we even confirmed have we even confirmed that comminga said that you know I see that it said reports came out that he's lost faith and Steve Kerr, but he's getting an opportunity to play He's getting the opportunity to go out on the floor each and every night play big minutes since Dreymon has been out And he's produced he's played well and I think that carries over So I don't even know if we confirmed that he even said something like this or or even have those sentiments You know, sometimes you get these reports and you get you get people they say that they have a Unknown source and all of those things but from from the vantage point that I have it looks like he's had an opportunity to play And he's taken advantage of the situation. I Mean look the way it was told in the news and the media was it was actually a beautiful narrative because it was he was Not not happy had a talk with Steve Kerr and then came out and had a great game So, you know, whoever if it's real if it's not real if it's planted it did what it was supposed to do This is a warrior see why it's interesting. You say pecking order because if you don't fall in We've seen what happens as well. You get shipped out. So three and seven over their last 10 12th place Chandler Do you do you make moves? I mean, it's hard to even ask that about this Warriors team, but here we are Yeah, I don't know what moves that they could make. I mean, I think right now I think everybody is on the table unless your name is Steph Curry He's the only one that's consistently played an elite level this year Dreymons Obviously been in and out of the lineup for other issues Clay Thompson's had it up and down here Andrew Wiggins. I don't know what's going on with him But you know that when they made that championship run a couple years ago, he was arguably their best player They're second best player for sure So I think that they put a lot of pressure on this young core that they have right Kaminga Moody Ponzynski and I don't think that any of those guys are ready for that next step and to become the face of a Franchise I think that's scary for the organization when you see your guys play dream on Steph getting older And they don't really have those replacements in place yet So you see Kaminga he's unhappy he goes and plays a career high in minutes and and great But I don't think he produced as much as they expected I don't think he's developed as quick as they've wanted and they're kind of stuck in this no man's land where they're Trying to maximize the maximize this time that Steph Curry is playing at this level and they haven't and it's frustrating And I'm sure they're looking and Mike Dunleavy He took over a tough job man Bob Myers got out of this at the perfect timing And I don't know what there is to do because there's there is young assets other teams could use They are they gonna pay play Thompson or they gonna trade dream on green So there's so many unanswered questions that this team Can do but I think for this season you just try and rally you try and you try and find a way to sneak Into that plan because then anything can happen if you're fully healthy I think it starts tonight with getting dream on green back And I think this fall into in the line of what Lou was talking about about the Expectation of the organization. This is the Golden State Warriors when you come in as a as a young rookie You have to learn and follow what's going on follow the process and pick it up as quickly as possible If not, you know, there's time to move on like you said They're trying to utilize the window They have with obviously Draymond clay and Steph and some of the and some of the other guys who've been there But if you can't it's like, oh my goodness, they're gonna move on anywhere else any other organization Maybe not the Lakers but any other organization They'll have patience with these the young talent of coming because he is a talent This guy is going to be something in this league. I think moody is going to be something in this league But unfortunately, it's it's where he is, you know, I'm saying is you can you can we all look at those two young guys and like now they're gonna be something it's just Not there you have to fall in line, which is tough for these young guys and you said it It's it's just, you know, what these guys, you know, it's this They feel like they should be this regardless of who they're playing with and it's not gonna work there And that's the problem. They see clay struggling. They see Draymond struggling. They're like, damn I can do that. Like why aren't my minutes going up? Why and then for wiggins Yeah, exactly. So they're thinking that their role should be bigger and and they're just, you know, They don't understand like you talked about the pecking order and the respect and putting these vets ahead of them They think they can be doing so much more right now than they given the opportunity Man, it's flying by time flying by vc a pleasure as always, uh, we will talk soon And we're taking a quick break here. Run it back. We'll be back