 Okay. Call a meeting to order. Those jobs are real. Call them in. Sure. Allison Wolf here. Tom Duster. Here. Scott Malwick. Here. Roger Lane. Here. Ken Houston. Here. Wes Lowery. Here. Kevin Bowdoom. Here. Jason Elkins. Here. Hope Bartlett. Here. Bob Allen is not here yet. John Sherman is not here. Heather McIntyre is here. And then Council Member Lertner is not here yet. Sherry, do you have a call? This is for everybody's information. In case you didn't know, City Council is going to choose the Board Member tomorrow. Our vacancy for that decision will be made tomorrow night. Just find out there. Okay. Approval of previous months for meetings. Any questions or comments on the last minutes? Any second? Scott? Nothing comes to do that. I heard the silence, so I thought maybe. Okay. Thanks, John. All in favor? If I say no. Aye. Aye. Okay. Kevin, what are you doing in the water, Stan? Sure. I could do that. This morning the flow of the St. Rain lines was 16.5 CFS. With a historical average of, coincidentally, the same about 16 CFS. The call on the St. Rain this morning changed to Highland Number 2 with an admin member of 11,642 and a priority date of November 15, 1881. The call on the main stem of the South Platte River is Riverside Reservoir admin member of 21,698 and a priority date of May 29, 1999. Route Price Reservoir at Rock is for the elevation of 63.97 or approximately 15,578 which is down approximately 16,7 paper feet from the pole. Union Reservoir is at an elevation of 25.7 feet or 11,000 paper feet which is down approximately 1,700 paper feet. St. Rain base and storage at December 1st was 69%. Leo with us, I'm training him to take my place in the use of the BabSense or anything like that. So he'll be filling in with us. I will be missing the January meeting. Any agenda revision? We do. We inadvertently didn't get the nimble item in for cash and lose. So I apologize for that. I'll pass that out. I'll discuss that when we get to that. Okay, on the development activity Westview Acres. So I'll just quote that briefly with water board. Westview Acres annexation is a 7.6 acre parcel. There are no historic blood rights pertinent to that annexation. Included in that annexation is a 6 acre right-of-way in airport. So Westview Acres annexation is an appliance that we all are required to policy a type of annexation. It will be a kind of final plat upon the satisfaction of the 18.75 acre project. Just for quick little background the proposed on this side is approximately 22 lots. There's currently two lots. So we'll be adding 20 single-family homes around the perimeter. That's all I have. There are lots out that way. I wouldn't think that single-family lots. That's what's being proposed. They put a concept plan at an annexation and that'll be fleshed out. Anybody? There are. There's two. That's what you see. Those little lines that go up they go to the two existing residents. That makes sense. And then break it up. How many are there? The plan is right now there's two existing lots to stay and around the perimeter there'll be an additional 20. That's pretty dense. Yeah. It's not as dense as some areas. I mean it'll be, but it's commensurate with probably this surrounding area. Okay. Anything else? Some of them. Second. All in favor? Say aye. Aye. Aye. Cash and move. So, yeah, I'll take that right here. So just, this is going to look very similar to what you saw in the last quarter. That being that as a reminder, cash and move is presently at $48,500 dollars per acre foot. And that was based upon council's recommendation to set that based on the entire cost of providing a full acre foot of water to the city portfolio more specifically as it relates to the Windy Gap project as being the principal project. We had thought that there might be some more financial information coming in for the northern staff that's managing the project. However, at this time we're still waiting on that. That kind of ties to the Colorado River Connectivity Channel project that was going around. We talked about that a little bit in the past. The we're using the project is using some of its reserves to cover project changes and cost increases. Money is still in there in those reserves to cover that. But it's likely that next year they'll be coming to the participants to cover those additional costs. It's just kind of expected. And so as soon as we get any additional requests for money for this project then we'll bring that to Water Board and then those numbers can be revised. But as of right now it's still at that sum total of 48.5. So therefore staff is still recommending no further changes to the project. Given that information do you have any sense of which direction those numbers might go if they would change or would you not know that we get there? The direction? I think what you're asking is maybe how much? I want to know if you sense that it would change over. I believe it's going to change over. And I don't know how much. Usually a large project is standard to have a 10% contingency. I think in this case even before the litigation you guys may recall it was it maybe went up to close to 20%. But there's you know the large project like this a significant part of it is probably fuel costs. And the project that takes this long fuel costs change will understand that. There will be a lot of different details that will come out. I can't say exactly how much but I think it's fair that we all should be anticipating another request to keep those reserves in place so that they don't have to stop working. And the timing of this would be some time first quarter or would you go beyond that? We might have a March setting more than likely in June so we kind of know when some of the numbers are I'll cover that and update on that when we get there. It'll actually we don't need any additional money probably a year because the project reserve and the project cash is there. So it won't happen next year. So that mentioned 3 will know the numbers this spring. Any questions? Tom? Yeah I do have a question. So given that we've just kind of recently moved to a new cash and move value I guess and that we've adopted kind of a new approach in calculating the cash and move I don't think we've had any discussion yet but I think it may be worth discussing the extent to which any of these incremental increases in project costs get passed along to this concept that is cash and move, right? So in other words is every dollar amount that goes up that we have to pay out in order to cover some kind of contingency or something on the connectivity channel or some kind of cost increase to be hollow or something how do we anticipate that those things will translate into increases in the cash and move payments or values or whatever? So if I could just add how we did it in our last kind of reassessment of it we use Windy Gap Fermi Project which I mean all construction has the benchmark for that as time goes on we'll continue to report all the different variables we've looked at but if we continue to use the Windy Gap Fermi Project if that cost goes up then incrementally instead of 48.5 that project will be 49 or 50 or 51 and then I think water board can look at that and say either we're good before we have now or we want to use that new number. That would really be up to the board when we get any new numbers. Right now we don't have it you know there hasn't been a request and it's going to be a lot before that and then that'll probably be the biggest thing is when do we pull that trigger when we actually spend the money or when we know how much it is but yeah in my mind I would anticipate we have a new number for the Windy Gap Fermi Project that seems like a reasonable metric to use to set caching loop so if it goes up a little bit I could see caching loop similar to how we've always done it you know whatever metric we use CBT as CBT went up caching loop went up or down many times it went down but it tracked and I would propose we'd probably track it with this project too Yeah I guess my point is that it was kind of stable for so I mean not necessarily stable but certainly much much lower than it is today for a very long time or for some period of time at least we've just made this kind of recent update to the caching loop kind of approach and whether or not we as water board would want to kind of like recommend that any future incremental costs in these projects get passed on immediately or directly whether that's the kind of like future kind of approach that we want to take is small incremental changes over time with each one of these kind of new updates and the cost of the projects or whether we would want to kind of like you know roll those out kind of on a some type of you know different type of basis I guess so and I don't know that I know the answer to that I'm just kind of putting the thought out there I guess for eventual discussion Okay any other comments? Yeah One question kind of really is When is the caching loop payment kind of get triggered? So caching loop payments are received more frequently as related to Platy The raw water requirement policy affords a developer once it has been annexed to satisfy all the remaining deficit for that annexation but typically they'll wait until they have like a subset of that remaining and they plat it otherwise the cost is much greater so you can envision if you had 100 acres in annexed you might plat 425 acre pieces over 4 years and only do your caching loop associated with each one of those but depending on the owner and the developer's perspective they may choose to satisfy all 100 acres whatever's left with that right after annexation so that if you will they satisfy they're not less than 3 acre per acre requirement but we've had that occasionally but it's usually been when the historic water rights have nearly satisfied all the deficits because it just makes for I'll call it marketing sense to say there are no further raw deficits due instead of saying you've got a small little fraction but each annexation is unique for sure okay thank you that's really helpful so if I understand this correctly we've got kind of two different categories of property within the long run so that they're treated as fashionable one are things that can get to be annexed and two are things that have been annexed that have yet to be applied do we have a sense of how it is and if so how much for if the scenario or will go scenario is kind of unique so we do have a gross idea so we based upon the current one month planning area we know how much area within that planning area has not yet been annexed and then we also have a pretty good idea of what the historic water rights are associated with that so then removing that from the equation leaves the remaining amount but each property is unique so you can look at it on a gross scale but probably a little bit of emphasis added the policy is an area based policy not a use based policy so I know we talk a lot about high density versus low density or whatever and then I also remind the board that there is a piece in the existing raw water requirement policies so that if any parcel shows to use greater than 3 acre feet per acre then they have to bring that additional water to the table to satisfy that additional amount so I don't have that number in front of me to say how much less the historic water right is there I think we can probably get a general like probably give you a general sense maybe next month what magnitude you're talking about but again also got to keep in mind that the policy allows us to bring acceptable non-historic water rights so it may or may not be cash or blue that we receive to satisfy that episode yeah that's a good quality I'd be curious about that we have all of that in a GIS format as well really hard to not look at it in a GIS format who would be happy to bring that up not right now but a future meeting would be happy to bring that up and sometimes it would be frustrating to see where it is and how much it gives a sense of compared to everything visually you can see so if you're interested we'll be happy to bring that up I think that would be a good thing we all would we will do that great thank you very much okay we take action to approve their motion we're not changing it though we need action very dangerous next 90 down here I think I'm supposed to talk about our board structure organization well that's the item on the agenda here I was kind of realizing that I was digging drilling down into this water group structure and not thinking about the whole city structure which might be quick to review so I don't know how many know exactly how the city is organized but over the last few years certainly since Harold's been here we moved to this assistant city manager model and each of the we have three city assistant city managers manage a portfolio of city services and so Joni Marsh still has the planning development redevelopment code I'm not even going to go through it all because I won't pull it out of my head real quickly but she's kind of focused around that area which is an obvious all the things with affinities the planning and then Sandy Cedar has a group that's called shared services which is all the cities was careful to use this term I always use the term enterprise level services but not like enterprise funds enterprise level being legal, finance human resources things of that nature and in particular finance are centered in that group and then Dave Hornbacher now has the portfolio of public works and utilities so within that group and I think that's the slide we have up here is Dave Hornbacher's group under which resides this water and waste department you can see on the far left a public works group and then the electric group we've got some things off to the side but the three major focus areas the utilities the electric utility and the public works transportation group so within this group the staff predominantly in here today are within this water and waste services group and the purpose of this organization was look a few things everything of course suddenly has different reasons why we bring in change but one of the big things we had for a long time was a very strong leader in our organization who recently retired and in doing that that leader Dale Radamaker that most of you know had been here a long time and had really good knowledge about a lot of things and even to a pretty deep level and so the organization that was structured under him was one that really played to his strengths and his knowledge and his ability to direct that group within what I would call a matrix organization structure rather than vertical integration of the utilities and other services we have it was a hybrid to be sure I mean the electric utility was vertically integrated however the water sewer, storm and even transportation utility was kind of in a matrix form where you had engineering in this slice you had operations in this slice you had the financial services in this slice and when he retired there was a consideration for how to maybe change that organization to play the strengths of those who remain and could leave certain areas and that's kind of what we have here then is we've gone back to somewhat of a vertical integration of the water sewer, the wet utilities rather than being split into a bunch of different departments they're now sitting predominantly in one department transportation and public works on that far left kind of more vertically integrated more traditional style public works group you cut the pie any way you want to and still be successful this is the way we've cut it working with Arrow to deliver the services in the best possible way and kind of restore a little bit of a focus in particular on these wet utilities we have so much of the decision making split up among so many different people that it was becoming almost too complex it was a little bit of the who's on first or who's making this decision versus that decision so a little bit of this was to actually refocus that so that we have these groups that really have common portfolio services within them and it plays a little bit more of the strengths of those of us who are providing leadership in the organization so that's what do we have yeah that yeah this shows just this group and at this point it's really kind of an accumulation of the things that were in these other groups when it was a matrix organization so we've got a treatment operations group and pressure and gravity systems operations that are in kind of a big operations group which is somewhat similar to what we have engineering now is focused just on water and wastewater in that area and then you have the regulatory services, environmental services in the lab and a lot of resources so those are really remnants of a past organization they fit in here pretty well we'll probably continue to do a little tweaking to optimize this the other thing that's in this group is the sanitation, the waste, solid way services and that group is technically a utility it certainly is different than everything else I think it continued in this group in part because I led it for quite some time and it kind of followed me in but who knows what the future of that might be it could be it could be something different and it certainly has affinities with other things in the organization but I think the takeaway here is that we're really trying to take a stab at refocusing our efforts in the wet utilities businesses in the city kind of going through an assessment right now what our strengths are, what our weaknesses are where we have issues collaboration issues integration issues anything that we can identify that we can maybe work on to make us a stronger utility organization Roger I'd be happy to answer any questions that the board has well reporting to Harold are there three assistant city managers now Dave being the replacement really to Dale but it's a different organization than what Dale had some of the things that were in here on the long run when Dale was here was he was the electric utility director what's not in here is natural resources the sustainability program the financial so we Dale's group reproduced the whole financial group and for good reason enterprise funds are a little different certainly than the general fund but it was somewhat of an adjunct anyway to Jim Golden and Sandy Seeders financial movement so that formally moved over into into that area just to fully integrate all the financial work together when was this affected this was about a month ago and Harold's been working on these chains for about the last six months of the time Dale retired well with Dale even you know yeah it did and that was part of the thinking here was to work with the strengths of those that we have Any questions Any questions about this No I think I was going to get over to you Thank you Are you pleased with your new job? These would be a worse You know I love the challenge of working to optimize things and I think that's mostly what it is and a really strong team Congratulations Anyway thanks a lot Thanks for your short straw All right I appreciate it Josh I don't know I'm going to be I guess Josh you're running that project on a hill Yes sir Jason had asked my name is Josh Sherman I'm a civil engineer with Public Works I'm currently managing the project so up at Sunset Street in the golf course area doing some work there to replace our existing treated water storage and distribution facility at that location I have a brief presentation if you're interested in it's one that I've given before so you might have seen it if you've been involved been in attendance at the public meeting when the city presented earlier this year on this project to the public You bet You bet Again Price Park Tank replaced the project and we can jump to the second slide once Heather gets it up and running I'll speak a little bit to the project scope of work for the project some history on this site in general as it relates to the water system some of the project benefits we have some project plans and renderings that we can share with you all I'll discuss a little bit about the project schedule and some of the temporary construction impacts around that site today and then be happy to answer any questions at the end This graphic here on this introductory slide is a landscape rendering of what the facility will look like when we're done I actually have this same rendering later in the presentation so I can go over it in more detail So the improvements that are included with this project are a new 8 million gallon circular pre-stress concrete water storage tank a new 12 million gallon per day pump station a new electrical building an emergency generator for that facility and then some adjacent site improvements some new fencing some landscape ring to buffer the new facility and then some irrigation system improvements around that area What's the existing capacity of the tank if there are no? Sure, so the next slide shows the scope of work which includes demolition of the two reservoirs that are there today There's an existing 7 million gallon reservoir that was in service and then an existing 2 million gallon reservoir that was not in service So both of those are being demolished There's a pump station actually at that site that has not been in operation for several years it's also being demolished along with a few miscellaneous outbuildings and some limited tree removal The existing water tower so the elevated storage tank is not being impacted with this project and then additionally there's some water line replacements around the facility so in Sunset Street Sunset Circle and Sunset Pool parking lot to help replace some of the transmission lines and distribution lines that help feed water into and out of this particular site A lot of people talk about that existing water tower we just use it for antenna placement That's right, so it's no longer in service and as it relates to the water system it hasn't stored water for several years or decades but it is still part of the city's infrastructure as it serves as a communications tower for emergency operations and it's seen as a landmark by the community I'm going to climb my own Do you use it? So the next slide is a little bit of the history on this particular site, Price Park was once known as Reservoir Hill The first 2 million gallon reservoir was constructed in the late 1800s and then subsequently in 1922 the original 7 million gallon reservoir was constructed and then in the 1940s was when that water tower, the elevated storage tank was constructed with a pump station and the city continued to grow from the original town to the north and to the west, there was some need there to provide some additional elevated storage for pressurizing the distribution system in those new locations and then in the 1950s the original 2 million gallon reservoir was replaced in the late 1960s roofs were installed over those reservoirs so you can see in the picture on the bottom right is likely the 2 million gallon reservoir and again these are reservoirs so they're stored below ground and then for water quality purposes roofs were installed to keep out birds and other things and so then let's see in the 1990s we took that 2 million gallon reservoir offline also in the 1990s was when the water tower was no longer in service and the pump station was decommission and then in 2015 is when the planning began for this project to start looking at replacement of these facilities and in between now between then and now to 2021 it was designed and we started construction this year oh, thank you you're welcome but the existing tank what is to ensure the new tank what will the coverage of that will it be a structure over it it'll be circular in shape it's partially bearing it'll have a dome roof over the top so there's some rendering that will show that so some of the benefits to the distribution system that will be able to protect and improve water quality for the entire city be able to enhance the ability to meet current and future water demands provide critical water service during emergencies and then significantly reduce the footprint of the facility which I'll show in the site plan to speak in more detail go ahead I also wanted to add that the tanks that are being replaced were at they were definitely in their life cycle and not likely to be able to continue passing the state's inspections for our storage tanks so that was coming to an end that's hence the water quality improvements that is part of the water quality improvements and some of the ideas behind increasing from the 7 million gallon to an 8 million gallon storage facility is to provide some additional storage not just for the area that this particular tank serves but for storage for the entire city because there's a new pump station that allows us to pump into some other higher pressure zones which provides some redundancy for our distribution system and reduces some risk related to where some of our other storage is located and how we move water into the city of the whole yeah I think that's a the other little footnote on this slide is that this project was included back in the 2020 water bond that was approved by the center of the voters so this was one of those two projects in addition to the treatment plan expansion that were included with those those costs you know there's a ton of piping going on what now is that necessary place existing what's that all about we have about 100 years of the city deciding how we're operating our distribution system due to growth and other factors so part of it is trying to separate out some of that piping away from and around the facility today and as part of the first phase of construction so that we continue to move water into the city and through the city while then we can turn over sort of the rest of the site of the contractor for the next year to really focus on building the new reservoir of the pump station without having risk or impact into how we're moving the water so that was part of that those water lines that I mentioned and yes there's a number in the parking lot and around the facility a lot about the station infrastructure too so they have to be replaced so next slide this is just an engineering drawing of the site plan it shows the circular tank there in the center in the dark gray you can sort of see in the background the aerial image how that new facility fits within the footprint of the larger 7 million gallon reservoir and then off to the left or to the west of the tank is the new pump station and electrical facilities and other apartments that are needed for the site but again we're reducing the footprint today and around the perimeter of the site you'll see that we're sort of bringing that fence line and around this around this facility and you'll see in the next slide with the landscaping plan how that opens up a little bit of buffer to the north and some green space and so councilmember if that's your hand up for a question I'll take it do you know what the power consumption in full operation of the pump station is oh that's a great question not off the top of my head I do not if you can, I bet I'd like to know I'm thinking about counting up all of the discretionary power consumers we have in the city doesn't have to run all the time that would be a pretty infrequent operation wouldn't it so not necessarily so that pumps so in a broader picture the city's distribution setup is in three zones and this tank serves our lower pressure zone zone one so the tank just feeds water down into zone one this pump station is going to boost water back up into zone three and the idea is that we would do that typically during peak demand seasons that would be during the summer and during the irrigation season which means it would run more often during the summer and whether or not there's a need to run it in the winter is yet to be determined there may be a need to run it in the winter not necessarily because of the demand in zone three but to maintain water quality in that tank and turn over that water because there's not a lot of demand out in zone one to do that on its own and in the summer would it run most of the time or does it run when something needs to be pushed it'll run when there's a demand so when something needs to be pushed it will cycle it won't run 24 seconds right, yeah what's the capacity? 12 million gallons our skyline tank currently operates that way holding the summer pump cycle on exactly for that reason but our system is predominantly a gravity flow system all the way from the headwaters that are waters from down in through the city in the past we had a weight gas water treatment plant in the summer months and had to lift that water with pumps up to the north bank so ever since we've stopped operating that facility we've had significant reduction in power usage and the addition of this pump station running skyline still wouldn't equate to how much we had in 24-7 months so again thank you so again this is just more of a detail rendering of the landscaping plan, a couple things I'll point out is there's a designated price park immediately to the east by removing the 2 million gallon reservoir and pulling back the fence line it'll open up some open space there to the north of the tank the area that sort of looks great to me in this picture is turf grass because of that park use but the area that's light green around the tank facility is native seeding to try to reduce some of that water consumption within the facility and then like I mentioned before we've provided some landscape planting trees and shrubs to buffer the new facility from the right away whether that's Long Peak Long Peak Avenue or from the residential use to the north, some of those subdivisions to also know there's a zero-escape garden sort of to the northwest it's kind of like the little orange area above the red axis that will be maintained up in that area and then I mentioned before we needed to replace the irrigation system there's actually four separate irrigation systems that once were operated for price park versus what was inside the fence sort of the bowl of art from Long Peak Avenue and so we're combining all those in the one system to make it a little bit easier for park operations to maintain this area and then last but not least there are some mature trees specifically the red axis we try to limit how many need to be removed but they need to be removed in order to allow for construction of the new water lines and facilities they're actually probably growing over and around the existing water lines facilities today but might be why they're so nice and healthy next slide so this is a rendering of the new facility from sort of looking northwest from Sunset Street in the intersection of Sixth Avenue you can see the circular tank there's some architectural relief with brick pilasters and then a dome roof the dome roof is a function of it allows for not having pillars or columns on the inside I read before which can help reduce the long-term maintenance cost in that facility the next slide is another rendering sort of from the Sunset Circle neighborhood looking west you can see the elevated tank and then in the background the new ground storage tank and how that dome roof elevation sort of fits with the existing roof lines of the neighborhood again, the tank is partially buried so there's water storage below ground similar to what the reservoir did before then additionally there's some storage above ground which is new and will allow for some flexibility for the city to provide a little bit better pressure down to that dome one which currently today is teetering right on our 50-55 pounds pressure down that zone of our benchmark so the new water level is going to be higher than what you had before then it'll be above existing grade and it'll be higher than what it was before one you had before did not go above that's correct next slide so the project schedule I mentioned some of the planning that started in 2015 through 2019 preliminary design in final design we're in 2021 we did this project out early this year and awarded the contract in the spring the contractor didn't start work out on site until after Labor Day when the sunset pool closed and we tried to allow some time between when we awarded the contract and started construction for material procurement given the current industry today still been a challenge but nonetheless the construction duration is for 18 months so that would put project completion in about March of 24 and they have started work out on site I know you're aware oh yeah it's a next slide you wasn't that area wrong? I do these are some of the construction impacts again we're following standard work hours within the city 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. limited work of weekends construction access is a challenge in this area we've actually allowed the contractor to close the westbound lane of Longspeak Avenue for staging we've temporarily widened the eastbound lane of Longspeak for two-way traffic and included some temporary pedestrian access down there as well I talked a little bit about the waterline work and there's always an impact of customers when we're connecting in new mains, old mains and some temporary shutdowns in that way and then the last thing I want to note is the recreation facilities of the golf course and the pool will remain open and Sunset Park and Price Park will also mostly remain open although Price Park is currently closed because we're constructing a water main right through the middle but it will be open as soon as we're done um next slide this was just a brief um visual of what I just described where the staging is that that dark hatched area on the westbound of Longspeak Avenue so that upper section of that road if you've ever driven it and then the lower section of the eastbound was temporarily widened to allow for two-way traffic and the next slide oh that's all I had in there today so there's some highlights of the work that's going on again we are under contract and the construction is underway they've actually demolished the 7 million gallon reservoir so that roof and all that work has been done they're doing a lot of water line work right now in and around the facility there'll be some continued demolition through the winter a lot of earth work to bring in some fill in areas of that existing reservoir and then the new tank construction will happen through the spring and summer of next year so you'll start to see that come up and out of the ground along with some of the other ancillary items like the pump station electrical building things like that I know your construction people are being challenged by a lot of people walking dogs I mean it's a very popular place for people and they've been very nice about it I'm glad to hear that a little nervous walking behind some of that equipment but people stay away but it's really really nice are you a contractor? a guardian construction yes I think the last slide showed that we do have a website these slides are up on engage long line as well we have a project hotline so if any of the public out there has any concern or knows anything they can call the hotline there's some signage out there as well that has that number and in my contact list it's not a quarter of your amounts out of the gray area maybe I don't know well I don't know for sure they're pretty good sized blocks okay so just to clarify this is going to be natural seating this is going to be soft grass we're adding in about an acre and a half of soft grass we are adding in soft grass we don't know the total acres just for water consumption purposes is that a consideration you know we work with natural resources and they do not have a master plan for Price Park and Sunset Park so Price Park is the designated area to the east and then Sunset Park is that little facility up by the golf course clubhouse and they do not have a master plan yet for ultimately those two facilities and we talked with them about that you know long term how does this new area integrate in with that as an engineer my sticking point is that's water department property and although we also don't have a master plan that might tell us what we need to use that for we may need it sometime in the future for water purposes and if we call it a park we may not ever get that use back for water facilities so we've had some of those high level conversations but we opened it up for that use I guess I should say it will be becoming more open area for the public use one of the ideas is to provide sort of a cross connection if you will between Sunset and the pool because right now the only pedestrian access is really one sidewalk along Longspeak Avenue and if you ever walked it in the previous condition really what half the people do is they just walk in Longspeak because traffic volume is relatively low but it's really a four or five foot wide sidewalk that has bicycles and people walking their dogs and all kinds of things so there was some thought about that area being available for better cross connectivity between Sunset street and the pool but that doesn't necessarily answer your question about you know should it be sawed out or should it be we did you know have that larger discussion which is why we went with Native on the interior I would say also there are a couple things I think there usually is an attempt to kind of match it with the surrounding area and of course the same type of term but I've heard before too that you have to be a little careful of those natural grasses near a golf course because that seam migrates into that and then creates that wrong growth into it as well I don't know if that was a concern here this is east basically downwind of the golf course so that shouldn't be a big problem that in some areas there's blood for stress can cause those types of problems sort of two other factors and I don't know that it shows up very well on that particular slide but that area north of the new tank will be sloped because the existing tank sort of set up a little bit on the hill right where the park elevation is so it is a bit of a slope and then again there is some anticipated heavier use in that area which might indicate the need for sod versus a native grass oh just we all we're going to talk a lot about what we're doing so and they're trying to encourage a lot of people to consider so I kind of wonder how this would translate to other side of our house for talking about this sure yeah it's a good question it is sod inside the fence today so footprints obviously different with two reservoirs and the limited amount of sod that is in there but it is sod inside the fence today and that happens it'd be interesting to do the net calculation on how much additional sod is in there what's the timeline in terms of restoration there right so the impacts to the two parks they will be restoring those so that they can get them back opened up this morning so this has got water lines that they're constructing now which is why sort of this whole area is closed but I've asked them to repair this and repair the work of the sunset so that so that this spring and summer those two areas are open back up there's a lot of time to waffle in terms of what goes in oh oh oh well no there is up here because today this is where the two million gallon reservoir sits and the contractor has been allowed to have the use inside the fence so the fence line is sorted here today so they're going to need all of this area for construction so even once they demolish out the two million gallon reservoir they're going to be the way they construct these circular tanks they're going to be concrete casting beds on site and then things in that area before this gets re-landscaped so it's going to be the last to waste for a while it is, it is the focus is just to reopen up the park as soon as possible but not inside the facility so we could go native in that there is still some time to make that decision yes Josh what would that do as a project and project planning you'd probably want to that was going to be changed you'd want to know that by what year from now six months from now yesterday the sooner the better always in construction but we do have some time I think if we knew even by spring of this coming year we could get that change implemented it impacts things like the irrigation design and some of that stuff would natural resources I assume kind of one way in they were involved with that original decision so if there's a recommendation here the sooner the better and then we could get that what would be the area approximately the area like acres does it look like it does yeah the one so I heard somebody say one and a quarter or one and a half acres is probably not a bad estimate it's probably at least an acre because the entire landscape rendering sort of if you took out one speak avenue that whole area is about five and a half acres so again I don't have the exact number up top of my head but that's why you were asking about lot sizes because you were trying to figure it out she was puzzling how many can fit in there yeah because that acre and a half looks like you'd be pretty credible guests yeah yeah yeah okay any other questions for Joe I do have one alright so we really they always mentioned that the existing tanks were going to kind of start cc'ing to kind of meet regulatory requirements with respect to kind of water quality just out of my own kind of curiosity and interest what are the types of things that start to show up in like those water quality tests or what types of parameters are the ones that start to kind of come out of spec so in this case deteriorating concrete is always an issue in this case this tank had a liner in the bottom and that liner was a membrane that has to be maintained with zero penetrations through it and that's really hard to do and we were at the end of its life so just to replace that in that tank was not possible the type of membrane we were using so it was going to take a lot of change to the floor and then some kind of surface closure membrane on top of that and now you're getting into the cost of building a new tank for those kinds of items it had doors that it shouldn't have humans could enter a good tank which is never a good thing it had a surface ground level so those penetrations also were notorious areas for leaks or air to get through or critters to get through so a lot of just deterioration on the whole structure but in particular the liner was a problem and was not going to be able to be replaced usually I know one of them has masonry walls that are the vertical walls but it's more of a risk to water quality than it was impacting water quality yet but there were gaps in some of that masonry that were going to need to be repaired and go around all the vertical walls and deal with grouting and things like that that would have been to a certain extent for new walls the last piece of it is that tank had a lot of dead spots in it so you'd have stagnant water in areas just from the way it was designed and so eliminating things like that are pretty important to us over time awesome thank you thanks everybody thank you thank you mason what do you have for us? I just got two quick updates for you so I received 100% plans for the WTR-112 that is our new or same frame pipeline replacement project for that I think it's about 1700 to 1800 milliliter feet somewhere around there a pipeline that needs to be replaced as part of that CIP and that's everything that's basically within CDOT Ryderway and Highway 66 just eastern lines and so I know the title of that CIP is replacement but we're not actually going to replace the pipe we're going to run a CIPP liner through it so it's long story short we're going to be starting in January so we're going to start one up for that those funds the project is fully funded we've even had some additional funding that will be a cost from recent market conditions so we feel confident we should be able to go out there and do that and the liner that we'll be putting into that we're going to make that an NSF approved liner so it'll mean drinking water standards even though it's on a raw water pipeline so some additional funding in there and then the other project we have going on it's not directly related to the water resources but we've got the Union Reservoir Inlet Bridge project that we're doing and so the initial plan was I don't know if you've been out there recently but it's got the culverts in the inlet channel and that's really just it's it's falling apart, it's not very safe we've got some more quality issues with that it's one of those things where sooner or later it's going to fail so we're going to install a bridge and that bridge actually we'll be able to incorporate that bridge if we get some funding and move forward with Reservoir Inlet Bridge we'll be able to pick that bridge up and raise the abundance up and reset it down so that construction starts in January and it's expected to last about a month or two months and the bridge will be ready in April and so once the bridge is on location we'll literally take a train set it down and that'll be the end Is there a date for Reservoir Inlet Bridge or is that something that we can discuss? It's something that's being discussed we have it in our CRP it's an unfunded project but it's something that we every six years we've got a diligence case on and there is some NRCS funding that the St. Great Elephant Water Conservancy District has put in more, up to potentially I think $25 million so should we be awarded that or should there be the potential of us getting awarded that? What might be a 20 year project might end up being five year projects? I have no idea what the odds of us getting that grant funding is but it's probably the top five Any questions? Thank you for the candy by the way You're welcome So last week we presented to the city council the council meant to you all last month overall it was really well received they expressed interest in our landscape standards throughout the conversations we've been having to the last year probably especially for the public railways and arterials we talked a little bit about the public arterial spaces that are maintained by private organizations such as HOAs or services and the city case for that water so that was brought up so that's definitely something that we want to make sure that we're studying in our just kind of ways to approach that moving forward we talked about population and not to use a specific number in our population projection so potentially looking at scenario planning and the color of the water plan and the scenario planning and their plan as well so I think we would be encouraged to pursue that obviously we would have to work with the planning department other people but I think that's what's important about where we want to go is collaborative and cross-departmental collaboration on all of our goals especially our water goals that we've received, they're excited about it and then they also asked the question which is kind of a water board as well about efficiency versus conservation and what are we using for the definitions so I did some digging and the Colorado Water Conservation Board which is the entity that requires us to do these efficiency master plans put out a definition for us and for the purposes of this plan conservation measures and programs are replaced with water efficiency activities so we're using efficiency to encompass conservation for the purposes of these plans I don't know that we'll do that programmatically or internally within the city of Guatemala but I think for our efficiency master plan purpose that's what we will use so we will use them basically interchangeably for the purpose of our financing a little circular you can't say efficiency without saying efficiency in the definition yes do our communicating water meters have need detection capability or does our water system have need detection so we don't use it right yeah so that's part of and I'll let you speak to this but our new water meters do but we don't have the program yet so that's one of the big projects I'm working on actually is figuring out how to do it manually until you can get basically the software to be communicating from those to the as the replacement program driven by remote reading is that what's driving and those the ability to detect other information from the meters is not really advertised to our customers and we're using the meters to retrieve other data other than totalization data but we do we do look to see if there's a backbone meter which is really critical information and leak detection but it's a little hit or miss right now it's mostly based on investigation where we hear a problem and we think there's a problem and we'll go back and look at the data and eventually we should be able to have all meters reporting into a central database any time they see 24-7 flow through the meter but it would be some indication that you probably have a leak or an appliance that's using it more than it should and then reverse for those of you with two critical pieces of information besides the building information. Thank you I told you I keep it at a time today you're welcome I'm sorry that was not really your fault though now it's not I don't have to say it's not nobody's blaming you you all are interested it's great okay Wendy can you yeah so I'm going to cheat a little bit today and actually just show you the presentation that none of the staff gives the when you get to this committee it was a really good one this year so go ahead so just a quick update on the so I'll start with this photo just because I really think this is a cool photo this is actually middle of the night they're fully operating 24 hours a day up there so so much work to do you can really see the site lit up at night you can see on the right on the on the left side kind of a neat perspective of the project most important part of course is where we're with the dam this photo on the right this is where the core of the dam had been over excavated 45-50 feet below existing ground to get down to competent rock and get the plant started and everything going if you look this is looking towards the east of the right this is the steep side of the reservoir site this is very steep as you get up here this part of the plant is completely done now and it's switched over and they're working on the west side of it which is still a lot of work to do up there and it's still fairly steep but this was the really critical part good to see that if you look here at the bottom 42 feet of the dam has already been constructed so that's not insignificant this on the left is a photo of the actual building, the lay down this particular machine lays both hydraulic asphalt core which you see here in the middle as well as the kind of a sandy rock on each side the buttresses that kind of contains that hydraulic asphalt and then on the right side of that or each side of that you can see the rock fill and here you can see the rock fill as well as out here 42 feet is a really great start and that's going well this is the actual rock fill process they have these 777 trucks six of them fully in use 24 hours a day and they've got another straight coming so they're a team plan for the whole project so that's one of the largest trucks that you can get so that's a lot a lot of material being moved this is the looking very very west side looking down this is the west a lot of the left a lot of this is the part of the plant that still needs to be constructed for the most part it's nearly done once the plant is down then they start drilling through the plant to grout so about 40% of the grout curtain has been constructed they're doing it at the bottom then they're going up the sides to stay ahead of the construction so the grouting is going well and then as far as the water deliveries the conduit will come out of Carter CVD pipeline up on the top of Whole Hill the project will go on down to a control house but the tie-in to the CVD system is all done including the valve that has to shut off the water so it doesn't come out of the CVD system that had to be really carefully controlled time wise with Bureau Reclamation who would shut down the main shut down the CVD system to do maintenance on the CVD system and it had to get done but they were done and that did happen so that's good this is I believe that's the control house the upper valve house the inlet and outlet tunnel actually looks like a tunnel now probably saw the pictures earlier on when they were going in the header just starting it this is a 40-fold tall wall there the tunnel at the bottom and in November is 27% complete they're now they're now getting close to the valve chamber they're starting just now starting to come in from the upstate side so we'll bring those two tunnels together this is just where the interconnect was on Ball Mountain this was there was interesting this is if you've ever been up to fight with Reservoir this is where the water comes out of the reservoir into the pole rail tunnel through pole rail before it gets to the power condo above flat-arm reservoir and this is they've drained the reservoir down so you can shut this down they have one small leak in the actual CVD side of the system eventually it'll need to be repaired this is at the base of the dam if you're standing on the dam looking north down on the downstream side to the left you go up to up the hill where you can connect to the CVD pipeline if you go to the right this is where the pipeline will connect to the condo that goes from the flat-arm reservoir up to Carter Lake if you look here there's a pipe that goes up here Carter Lake on the other side of this bridge this pipe goes up the hill and into the bottom of Carter Lake the water actually comes out of the bottom of Carter Lake this will be interconnected so that if there's ever a problem with a flat-arm power plant and it has to be shut off you get out there's three units in there we'll sort of pump up or take a little bit of water down to that move up for about ten years or so so we were out of water couldn't get water in Carter Lake water in it or we wouldn't have been happy but that was recognized as a weak spot on the entire CVD system so this will allow water to come out to the hollow angle to Carter Lake Carter's down that starting and then we've excavated on the downstream side down for the this is where all the water we control coming down from the west you can see the Pemstock and the flat-arm power of the plant here we're up here at the top of the hill sort of this pipe will come out here and the water will need to go from here into that connecting pipeline we just saw in Carter Lake or it will go from here into the pipeline through the inlet outlet tunnel and continue all of this this was the main workforce for the project just you know just starting to excavation just being constructed as well one of the one I guess we'll call it a lead-in is that this is a picture of the road that will go around the west side of the reservoir starts up on the county road that will go around the west side of the reservoir further to the south side of the reservoir this will be the road for all maintenance on the reservoir as well as the south land on the south side that also will provide access to the Larimer County recreational facilities that are constructed as part of the reservoir just some of the key milestones the first I draw the gas valve started October 15th the access road was pleaded November 16th the last 10th placement and then hopefully out in Carter Lake interconnect done next spring soon one thing I did want to show here is this is an ideal where on the blue line was the expected expenditure line so here one way of one way is to monitor the construction and the other is to monitor the expenditures this would have got us done as well as expected this red line is where we are actually are right now pretty good and then the orange line is kind of the lowest the slowest expenditure which both lines end up getting done about the same time so as long as we are in between those two but original contract amount 485 million to date the changers are 26 million so the current construction contract is 511 million and earned today is 127 million so about 25% expenditure at this point done which is basically on target and doing well the 26 million changers that's all we talked about the rock the additional rock that's going in heavier and tighter better rock fill down a little more rock there was a little bit of extra excavation to get down to competent bad rock just a number of different things as of course all of those changers are well within the contingency amount that was budgeted and is already up to northern water which kind of leads back to our cash investment right now they also look at future potential changers they can see we're good there's sufficient funds although it's pretty close we're projecting fully utilized the contingency funds they aren't right now in particular one thing that is I'll call it additional was the cost due to the federal lawsuit so that's 2.4 million dollars was a cost for delay of construction due to the federal lawsuit that's the contractor cost not the settlement cost that amount so far that amount was paid out was included in the contingency but because of the contingency probably won't cover that northern water is looking at asking the participants the pace separately so to speak for that change order amount for the federal lawsuit so they're looking around to 2.4 my guess is probably to 2.4 million which was an actual change order that was approved at the final settlement of the federal lawsuit if that happens that will be on top of 7.5 up over 90 that's the entire budget so we'll probably be asked for that we've asked hey let us know before we continue we'll actually probably collect the money until 2.4 we've asked them to give us if we're going to collect it let us know so that we can put it in our 2.3 budget so that then I guess really we'll have the conversations hopefully hopefully we'll have the number by the March cash amount because I need to put it in the budget then for 2.4 if that's the case then we can have that conversation do we want it and then of course there's more I believe policy decision on the board do you charge a developer for a federal lawsuit is that you know do you expect that because of the budget probably so I think so but that's a conversation once we get that number so that's now a different tweet on where that request certainly hope that the remainder of the project and the expected change orders get us over what the original project cost and agency was that's not where we are right now and this is just a copy of the actual executed change orders to date both already a second because I like these I don't know why I'm just really the first one showed Dale flying to Cancun and that airplane did it come back not say and this one does not show I'm coming back questions yes presentation those costs I assume spread through the participants based on the percentage of what they spread that way so and it's really I mean we've got it's all coming out of the money it's kind of terrific just very good you know one thing I always ask somebody Joe Public wanted to get a view of that is there a public plane up on the hill to make you're pointing that out that way up on top there's some kind of access is that true or not there is there is a what they call Jimmy Hall of Overlook one of the properties up on the east side basically on the hill between Carter and Jimmy Hall there's a property that came all the way down the side came up for sale purchased by the project because it actually went down the road anyway it's been turned into an Overlook actually used to they had a few tourist eyes fall but the road was in such bad shape shut it all down and rebuilding the road and then once it's done next spring we're going to reopen for tours so public can get a tour go up and Overlook that you can see some of this actually just going up the county road just drive up the county road and fly under the reservoir park inside the road take a look you can see it from the distance but the Overlook on the east side is the best place to see there are no in valley tours anyway just because of the construction one of those trucks we as a demonstration they squash the thing up all right so sometime this spring they'll be reopening I still encourage everybody to look at the website because you can see all the pictures but they'll actually be able to go out and sign up for tours all right moving on items from the board any department items from the schedule for future board meetings any comments about that is that basically on the chain probably in January it was one of the legislation I didn't know that I have no information on items items you can see on the schedule for future board meetings any other comments before we adjourn okay we're adjourned thank you