 So ma'am, I have been following you since my PG Prep days, so I was a regular follower or subscriber of your YouTube pundit because I had done my bachelor's and master's in literature and I was quite confident about it, so I would have probably gone for self-preparation, but because I had a very severe time constraint, I felt that I need some support. I wouldn't be able to manage it all on my own, so which is why I decided I resonated with your teaching methods since the very beginning and I felt that the most interesting part was how interesting you make all of it sound. So there were times when I was not enough motivated, of course all of us go through that, but then I would just ask a simple question, if not study what else would I do and the options would be I would either scroll through reels or I would watch a movie and I would be like isn't reading about novels as interesting as watching a movie and that became possible because of the interesting video lectures. So I think that was a big motivation factor to study because you made it sound interesting and I resonated with that method, so I think that really worked for me. Hi Bhakti. Hello ma'am, it's so good to see you in person virtually. Thank you so much, lovely seeing you and you have such a sweet smile I must say. I was very happy to see your name in the list, Bhakti as a name is very very near to my heart, so we are very religious, my entire family is very religious and Bhakti is a word which we speak so many times in the day symbolically, so you have a very beautiful name and a very beautiful smile. Ma'am that's very kind of you, thank you so much. So I'm going to have a long conversation with you, I have a bunch of questions lined up which I would want to ask you so that a lot of other aspirants could get inspiration from your journey. So but then before that a big big congratulations on Clearing Neck, not just from me but from the entire team of arpitafkarma.com, we all are very very proud of you. Thank you ma'am, thank you so much and you know I have troubled your team so many times but they have been very kind and patient to always respond on time, so thank you for all your help. Thank you so much, we as teachers as a team it is our job to be of the help of all the students because I know that you know preparing for a competitive exam is a difficult task in itself and as teachers it is our moral duty to make it as easy as simple as we can for the students so that you know with our guidance and your dedication you can crack it in like with a big celebration. So firstly I would want to know more about you Bhakti, I want to know from where are you, where have you done your graduation, post-graduation, how has been your you know this journey with figuring out that you want to appear for this exam, so how this all happened? Yes, so I'm basically from Ambravati, it's a small district place in Maharashtra near Nakhur, that's where I did my schooling till 12th standard, I appeared for all the engineering entrances, GE, MAIN, SEDVAN, CET, I did it from science and then I shifted to literature, I did my bachelor's in English literature from Pune and thereafter I did my master's from Savitri by Phule Pune University and I just did my master's this year or last year should we say it and then I appeared for NET, so this was my third attempt, in my previous two attempts I had not qualified NET but in this attempt I cleared for JRF and I was also working so I prepared with a job, job oh my god that is such a big inspiration because clearing JRF and that too with like with the limited time that you get after you're already occupied with the job is a big thing and there are so many so many things that I think all of us together are going to learn from your story because not qualifying two time and then still not giving up and sitting for the third attempt getting a JRF, it is a it is really really inspirational because a lot of people they kind of leave NET halfway since they are not able to like clear it in first second attempt and there are people who don't even think it is possible to clear NET with job or with you know if there's a lady who's a housewife or if there's a boy who is currently going through post graduation doing his MA so because of the time constraint people think that it is nearly impossible so your story of getting a JRF in spite of like so many things that happened which wasn't very suitable for a student so to say it is so inspirational so thank you so much for joining us today thank you for my pleasure thank you so much for having me thank you thank you great so we'll start from the very beginning I want to first understand from you that you know the moment you decided that okay you're going to appear for NET so very first time when you saw the syllabus on the site of UGC what was your reaction and what did you think that how are you going to begin the preparation right so ma'am the reason I could not clear my previous attempts was the fact that I did not take it very seriously because I did not know what opportunities it kind of opens up for you so I feel as a student I lack that awareness of where this exam would take me which is why it was a kind of mindless activity that I performed I just went along with my peers to appear for the exam but this was the attempt where I actually seriously prepared for it and when I saw the syllabus I think every aspirant would relate to me I thought you know why did they not simply mentioned anything and everything under the sun because it's almost everything they have to get all the genres and all the periods so I felt that it was humongous and I was overwhelmed in the beginning but as I gradually progressed I started to get a hold of the syllabus and I actually started enjoying it very honestly wow that is wonderful enjoying the process of preparing for a competitive exam I think is the most beautiful thing that can ever happen to an aspirant because see this clearing net clearing GRF is a very momentary happiness in the scheme of life if you look at your life a time span of 70 80 years that you spend on earth these little success moments of success that we kind of have multiple times in our life they're just momentary but then the preparation and the journey that leads to the success is a very very long stretch journey you have in yourself seen three attempts and a good one one and a half years of preparation span which we're going to talk about so yes making that beautiful making that enjoyable is a great great thing yes and that goes to you for that yes I can't really agree more to you I think it's the journey that matters more than the destination I had always loved literature but I think during this process I fell in love with it even more and now when I look back I don't feel as if you know those were very difficult days and I'm so glad they're over I just have a smile on my face and I feel those were good days that I spent in the company of literature and that was really one of the best phases of my life the preparation phase I really enjoyed that phase I really want that anybody who's going to listen to this interview actually pauses here and just reflects back and takes a pledge that okay if they can make literature their passion then this journey is going to equate them with so many new writers so many beautiful stories so many undiscovered philosophies which is going to change their perspective change their outlook towards life towards society and that is what literature is all about like I remember back then in 2018 when I started this platform it was on 14th of February which was Valentine's Day as well as Basant Panchmi so Basant Panchmi is symbolic of goddess Shruti who is the debut of knowledge and Valentine's Day symbolic of love so I always had this unending love for literature so I wanted that why not just keep a day reserved for a romantic relationship why not look at from a very different lens and see that okay how can we love so many other things in life literature for that matter can be one of the most precious relationship that we can cherish through our life and the way you've been narrating your story I can actually so much resonate with my own story and I can see those you know those threads joining which is so beautiful to see and I'm so glad that you qualified J.R.F. and you're going to teach so many brilliant minds on this earth and I can just tell you how overwhelmed I feel when I see that okay teachers like you are going to take the lead of Indian education system and going to inspire so many minds out there I'm your one of the greatest inspirations for that I think you reflect a lot of passion while teaching and it's natural that the same is reflected in your students as well going ahead in future. Thank you so much thank you so much and all credit I would give to my teachers from school time I think all of them have kind of made this possible to I would not say that they kind of just inspired me to take literature and lecture worship as a career option but they kind of present them themselves as an epitome that I feel I felt that okay why not I can be one of them if they can have such a strong imprint on my mind I would love if I can have such imprints on the minds of other young minds in India so yeah I would just pass on your thanks to them okay so the next thing that I want to talk about is your daily schedule daily structure but before that I want to also want to know from you that how was this journey of giving three times net different from each other so what what changed in this course of time? Yes so as I said the first attempt was almost unworthy of counting it wasn't a serious attempt the second one collided with my MA final exams with my semester and exams and I was very very serious about my semester and exams so I could not really donate much time for net prep so again I was short of time but this time I had decided and also because my job was of teaching so I used to teach in a college so I that is where you know when I actually started teaching and I interacted with my students I learned what a joy it is to interact with such young minds and they were actually my source of inspiration and which is why I decided that this time I have to clear it and my daily schedule was something like my day started quite early around 5.30 in the morning because my working hours were 7.30 to 1.30 so I had to work in a college from 7.30 to 1.30 I used to have around three to four lectures every day so for that I had to prepare a lot as well apart from my working hours so initially that used to consume a lot of my time and I couldn't find time for preparation but then I made it a routine that somehow I find time in college and I just tried to wrap up my lecture prep in college time so that I can devote remaining time for net preparation so my afternoons were devoted to net say from 2 p.m to around 6 p.m 5 p.m was for net and then I used to work out also for around an hour or hour and a half in the evening and then again revise at night and then go back to sleep so this was more or less the routine for three or four months I hardly took breaks there were no weekends or anything but I honestly I did not really miss out on anything I did everything that I wanted I was also pursuing my hobbies alongside so I didn't let this exam over occupy my life in a way I took it very practically I devoted whatever time I could and I did I tried to make it as optimum as possible instead of letting it occupy all of my mindset and my life that is that is wonderful like balancing so many things together it is such a great quality that a person can have and I really loved to hear when you said that I did not take any breaks any weekends and yet at the same time you made time for important things like working out your hobbies so so you know it is such a holistic thing that you holistic routine that you followed for the last four months very very nice and I'm really impressed and as a working professional I would also want to understand that what challenges did you face like one of them you mentioned that you had to prepare for the lectures which was very time consuming other than that like there must be some administrative commitments in the college or there might be times when you have to stay longer in the college for some meetings so how how did you find time during those days yes actually ma'am my colleagues or my mentors all of them were very very supportive even my students were extremely supportive so I was really blessed in that regard and I really want to take this opportunity to thank all of them but he has having said that you do encounter challenges just a couple of days before the exam I faced a very difficult challenging situation at my workplace which took a heavy toll on my mental space and it also sort of translated into a physical pain I had heavy headache and all of those things but then at the same time my colleagues my students they were all there to support me to say that you know we have got your back and you have to do this so I really cannot be enough thankful to all of them I think I'm very very fortunate to be working in such a cordial and cooperative environment apart from that of course time constraint was definitely there but I realized that it's not always necessary that you give the 100% it's only important that you are giving your 100% what I mean by that is the ideal 100% for this exam would be studying six to eight hours a day but for me it wasn't possible with my work in my commitments I could only devote three to four hours now that might not be the ideal 100% but that was my 100% and I did that question ever if you decide to write a book or to publish a blog or anything which you make public ensure that you put this line this is so beautiful and I'm really touched okay that it is important to give our 100% just like we say all these great leaders said that you are your biggest competition you don't have to look here and there to see okay who is going ahead who is ahead in that lane of competition you have to see where were you yesterday and have you made any progress today that is all what counts so in those similar lines I remember you saying the same thing that it is important that we give our 100% it can be different for everybody but still like if we devote our 100% that I think the entire universe conspires to help us support us and in in Hindu mythology we have this beautiful word called so that is just universal ways of saying that you're giving your best child and I'm there with you I'll support you with all what I can that is so beautiful wonderful wonderful very touching um next thing that I want to talk about is um you know how did you balance your preparation between paper one and paper two how much time did you devote to both the papers and how important do you think are both of both of these papers are in the preparation is it that any one paper you feel is more important should be given more time to or is it equal yes first of all in terms of importance I think both are equally important because both the questions carry two marks each there's no difference in that but I'll be very honest that I really did not prepare a lot for paper one because paper one was always my strength I was good at it since the beginning even in my previous attempts I failed because I scored very poorly in paper two my score in paper one was always decent so that had been a sort of a good area for me so I did not really think a lot about it but I did prepare I referred to this book that everybody knows about it was by Kavya Smadan and I used to solve it whenever I used to get time I did not really focus a lot on people and development and environment and all those things because that was something I wasn't good at and I had decided my strategy was to play on my strengths and not on my weaknesses because I had time constraint so aptitude DI that was my kind of strength so I decided to shape that better and score in those areas instead of focusing on the topics which I'm already weak at because I did not have the time to time time yeah and I think this is very very rightly said by you that it is important that we play on our strengths even in life the reason why most of the people are successful in their own fields be it Latamageshkar, Sachin Tendulkar, Dupika Padukone any any field you take and why are these people successful they kind of understood that what they are good at and they worked more upon that Sachin Tendulkar would not have done as brilliantly as what he did in cricket if he decided out okay let me be a consultant or let me be a banker because that was not his strength so he kind of realized it you have to definitely work upon your strength just like you said that paper one is equally important you have put in efforts to get those marks in paper one as well but then you are realizing that okay let me not just go and look for those two three questions on current affairs which is going to be very very time consuming but not very great in terms of cost benefit analysis that okay the time I put in and the number of questions I get correct based on that time is very very low that's so true so true now my favorite part of the interview I would want to talk about paper to preparation and I know that the answer that you're going to give like even before you start speaking I know that all of them are going to come from a very wise mindset where you have kind of given a lot of thought to how do you want to channelize your preparation so that you don't you don't commit mistakes which cost you marks so from that angle a lot of students who might be doing certain mistakes in their preparation journey there are there must be students who are either devoting too much time on topics which are not relevant so they are kind of going to get guidance from you so my first question in this particular series of paper two is that how did you decide that okay this is how I'm going to plan my four months so when you saw the syllabus how did you decide that okay this this is the portion I'm going to cover in the first month second third fourth yes my simple strategy was the division of labor so you break it into smaller parts in my earlier attempts I had referred to source books it was Routledge and Abrams and I would split up pages I would set a target that I have to complete these many pages in this attempt of course I was taking help from the coaching right the online coaching that you offer which is wonderful so I had set up a target of number of lectures I have to complete around 40 or 40 lectures per day I would make notes and I would revise them so I had broken it up into really really small fragments a monthly target weekly targets and then daily targets and I used to try and follow those targets every day and keep a check on every say week or month so that was wonderful like breaking down bigger targets into smaller actionable steps again is something that is very very helpful in any kind of big milestone that you want to cover so very rightly said and again going back to paper to that which topics are areas why preparing or before even starting your preparation did you think are the most crucial ones where you you're going to focus more of your energy on yes so I had focused almost most of my energy on four topics British literature literary theory literary criticism and I also did Indian literature because I saw that it is gaining more and more focus by net in previous few years so these are my four areas of focus of course British literature consumed most of my time and energy so I devoted my entire dedication to that while I was doing that then I started with criticism and theory and then I moved on to Indian literature having said that it doesn't mean I didn't want to touch other topics but again I had the time constraint so I had to make sure that I'm really good at what I'm doing instead of doing everything so I focused on these four topics and one very important thing that you just said that giving your 100% so you kind of realized that okay looking at the time that I have let me first touch upon the most important topics and what you did was wonderful because British literature for any net aspirant who goes through PVC or paper he can very vividly see that 50% paper comes from British literature about 20 to 25% paper comes from criticism and theory and as you said Indian literature is gaining more prominence so we can expect about 10% paper from that section so you kind of cover 80% and you left 20% but this 80% you worked so so properly covering it thoroughly that you kind of cleared your just based on the 80% knowledge that you had you didn't have to like go through the entire 13 module thing that is wonderful wonderful so what study materials and resources did you use for paper to preparation oh yes as I said before this attempt route legend a Brahms were my fundamental resources which I have been using since my PG prep but this time I heavily relied on your classes and the notes that you provided because again I had decided to trust one entity and not look for a lot of material because that is also very puzzling at times so I had decided to keep my faith in one place and just go with it and I'm very happy that it truly worked for me thank you so much again another interesting you know thing that I kind of want to emphasize more on is that trusting any one source so I would not say that my resources are better than what others are providing in the market definitely there are different teachers having different teaching methodology and I appreciate all of us who are working in the same spectrum with the same mindset that we want to help students out in their journey the only thing is you have to kind of figure out which teaching methodology you resonate with like I am a very visual learner so if you've seen my video lectures just started all of them are made with an intention that those images those mind maps those charts they get imprinted in your brain so that it becomes easier for you to memorize so many facts and figures about so many novels so that is my teaching methodology I don't change it because that worked for me and I have seen that working since past six years for so many aspirin there might be somebody other who has a different teaching methodology you have to choose and decide that okay I kind of connect more with this teacher so like I want to again go back to this thing that how did you choose us like how did you research and select that okay our online coaching platform will suit your needs the best yes so ma'am I have been following you since my PG prep days so I was a regular follower or subscriber of your youtube pundit and honestly if I wasn't working I wouldn't have considered a coaching option because I had done my bachelor's and master's in literature and I was quite confident about it so I would have probably gone for self-preparation but because I had a very severe time constraint I felt that I need some support I wouldn't be able to manage it all on my own so which is why I decided I resonated with your teaching method since the very beginning and I felt that the most interesting part was how interesting you make all of it sound so there were times when I was not enough motivated of course all of us go through that but then I would just ask myself a simple question if not study what else would I do and the options would be I would either scroll through reels or I would watch a movie and I would be like isn't reading about novels as interesting as watching a movie and that became possible because of the interesting video lectures so I think that was a big motivation factor to study because you made it sound interesting and I resonated with that method so I think that really worked for me. Thank you so much I think our team is putting in so much efforts to get these videos out because it is a very very laborious task and doing it for so many writers and so many works it's a very herculean task but then the energy that we get to make this possible because it's a very heavy on budget project also so many people are involved and all the bad is happening but then we just made this possible because the kind of feedback we get from students like you who love to study and our lectures make them study even more or make them not feel bored so that is the kind of motivation that you know just moves us forward that okay there are 100 videos that we've done let us just make next 100 this month and we've successfully completed 700 so far and I think sustaining the 700's journey could not have been possible without the wonderful feedback we've got from you guys so thank you so much for supporting the video lectures I I really love the kind of feedback I'm receiving thank you so much and thank you so much for being so vocal about it because at times you know we are also humans we we kind of want to hear from our students that okay ma'am we studied for two more hours because the lectures was interesting I thought of sleeping or scrolling through Instagram but then your lectures were interesting enough so I decided to like listen to five lectures rather than strolling through leaves that is a motive like that is a big motivation for us so thank you so much for that you really make us you really make our day thanks to you ma'am all thanks to you thank you thank you okay so next thing that I want to ask you I think would be what was your note making strategy like did you make notes and how relevant were your notes in your preparation ma'am I think I 100% based my preparation on note making I made notes for everything that I read because I think this is a very subjective thing for some people different things might work you have to figure out for yourself what works for you in my case I felt that I really need to have something in a written format and that too in my own handwriting because then I can revise it very quickly the revision process takes very less efforts if I had the notes and again because of the time constraint I had to make sure that I'm saving as much time as possible note making is a is an extremely time consuming process to begin with but if you get that done it saves a lot of time afterwards so I made exact I had around say 500 to 600 pages notes and even on the exam day I had to leave by 6 30 in the morning but I woke up at 3 in the morning and I revised all of those 500 600 pages and which is why I was feeling quite relaxed and calm while I was appearing for the exam because I had just brushed it up very recently so I think notes have definitely helped me a lot in my job Wow wonderful and what you just said makes so much sense now that initial process is very time consuming but the kind of relaxation you get after your notes are there and how quickly you revise it just like you said that six o'clock you had to leave for the exam center in three to six in three hours you kind of revise the entire syllabus it is such a big relaxation on the exam day that you throw with everything and you're ready to tackle that paper wonderful wonderful again one important thing about self-study just since you've prepared two times on your own like why did you feel that there was a need to join a coaching institute in your third attempt yes so again I would say I'm not saying that it's impossible to do it by self-preparation as I said I would have also done it if I had the luxury of time but this is so humongous that sometimes it's easy for people to get misled sometimes you cannot really figure out what is important what is it's very important to know what topics to leave as you know to know what topics to study in depth so I think sometimes the preparation can be misleading sometimes you end up giving a lot of time or a lot of attention to unimportant areas so I think for that a coaching can be really helpful yours was definitely helpful for me so that my focus and my exam oriented mindset was maintained because for people like me who love literature sometimes we get so engrossed in reading that we keep reading a single novel for say eight ten days and then we realize oh we are here to prepare for that and not to do PhD on a single novel I think that was also a challenge so which I think that was kept in limits and the exam oriented mindset was maintained very well throughout the preparation wonderful wonderful I think that is that is what any coaching institute I would not say what they aim to do but then that is where a coaching institute kind of fits in your preparation journey telling you what to study how much to study what to escape and what to focus more on so that that is something that is really really helpful when you don't have so much time in your hand because then you don't have time to study non-relevant topics at all you every minute so you cannot just have that luxury of time another interesting thing is about revision because I I kind of I love this word revision I've spoken about it so many times in my lectures and I keep telling this because a lot of people they kind of feel that the syllabus is covered and that is where the job of the student is done but what I think is that all the people who sit in the net seriously do the syllabus once in a while whatever they study every person defines what my syllabus is from the ocean I have to cover it but then those who top and toppers like you who not just clear net but also kind of swear by a revision so what was your revision story like what role of what was the role of revision in helping you clear the net yes ma'am I don't think I need to say it again that revision is as important as accumulating knowledge it certainly is but I would again be very honest that I could not really manage the best revision strategy I used to hear interviews I have heard your story that you had revised seven times before you appeared for net and I would slightly get intimidated by such stories because I felt that I don't have that kind of time so I did not revise so exhaustively but what I did was I tried to make learning a continuous process as in of course I'm devoting only three or four hours every day but then while I'm working out while I'm traveling I'm just asking questions what did I read today which author came first and then who came the next what were the order of the works what is the theme of this work so my mental revision would keep going on throughout the day even if I was doing something else so I think I compensated my lack of revise a lot of times by this mental strategy of revision and then again I managed to do it a few times before the exams I must have revised it at least three or four times before the exam and one last preparation on the exam day as I said so I really cannot stress enough on revision I think you might read a lot but if you don't revise it's almost like not having read it at all so I think definitely important I think so far the kind of answers that you've given resonate so much with my learning philosophy and I would want to stress again on the points that all these things that anybody is listening to it is very important that you kind of make a note of it and try to inculcate it as a habit because those who are not very keen on revising they kind of ignore it and they'll do it just right before the exam by the time it is too late because you've already forgotten so much information and it is very very disheartening but I think that is also because revision is a very difficult task to do it's mentally exhausting you get very tired by the end you know you challenge your mind so many times you force it to recall and remember so I think it's a tiring activity exactly it is just like workout right because yeah in the entire day we kind of go here and there we move we move our hands legs everything but it is not tiring but then when you're doing strength training when you're putting dumbbells resistance bands that one and half hour or one hour of intense training session kind of exhausts you so much but that is where the muscles are built like even if I go around doing all the household work my muscles are not going to get built but that one hour that I spent in the gym which is very very taxing very hard on my muscles that is where the muscles are built so I think that is how it is no pain no gain philosophy true true and how did you handle that stress and anxiety that students generally feel a week before the exam when they are kind of nervous they they know that it is approaching you still have an idea that okay this is a portion which I've not touched upon and I'm just banking on these four units that I'm thorough with and I'm going to go and sit in the paper based on the knowledge that I required so far yes I think ma'am even I had a similar experience I remember I called my sister one week before the exam and I said that you know I think my strategy has gone wrong and I wouldn't be able to make it to JRF this time so probably I'll do it again another time because I wasn't remembering very well in the mobs I felt that I'm forgetting some of the points and which is why I was becoming very anxious but then I realized that anxiety won't add up to my knowledge anymore what we'll do is probably a pinch of optimism so I decided that I would be 100 optimistic because that would enhance my chances of getting selected so I was very positive and I decided to go ahead with it give it my 100% and surprisingly on the exam day I was extremely calm because I was quite confident that I have again I have given my 100% I have done whatever I could do and also I had quite a practical approach to it so even if I couldn't have done it unfortunately I think I would have picked up again and appeared again I don't think I would have attached my words to this exam of course it's important that is so wonderful and that is you kind of just said what a lot of people will kind of realize internally after a long therapy session therapy is this basically most of us they we struggle with the self-image issue that anything that we're not able to accomplish we kind of relate it attach it to our self-worth that oh I'm not able to do it I'm not able to do it I'm not able to do it I'm not able to do it all of these words that we kind of associate with ourselves which is very natural also but what you said makes so much sense that pinch of optimism not having this thing that when you attach so much value to one thing we kind of get that that much I would not say fear fear is a very very small word it feels as if the entire world is going to crumble down you have the societal thoughts at time we face so many students who are not in our coaching but from us youtube or social media through connect the people who are preparing themselves they are somehow convinced that they have worked so hard that now they will take out jrf and because of any reason they are not able to get that jrf and they feel that but it is always important that you have a plan be in place you know that it is just an exam that is the reason why I always have this thinking I put in something for students who do not qualify because I know but as teachers it is important because potential kind of a mistake has happened if they work upon it then six months you have given more of your life so it does not matter in the span of 70 years six months we look at our life in a very small form we focus only on today a lot of things are very important remember my mother telling me this always that sometimes you have stress over anything in life always think that what is this thing that I am stressing on today it will matter after 10 years if it matters if your mind answers yes it's going to matter as much as it is matter it matters today I know 10 years later I will not even remember it so here is one thing that is another thing very very nice that I really loved this part of the interview where you you showed your vulnerable side where even you had those second thoughts let me not just sit for the exam let me just sit for the next exam it is that vulnerable moment where we have to be a little optimistic and say that it is okay let us see what will happen it is not clear it is not clear it is a big deal that is very nice very nice and again one important thing that how was your experience this time when you sat for the paper did you feel that paper was easy moderately difficult very very challenging what were your thoughts yes ma'am I feel what happens during the exam is as important as what happens before true those three hours they have to be your best three hours so I had gone to the paper with a very optimistic mindset I had prayed that you know let my brain be in its best capacity let me use it to the fullest let me be the most creative and with that thought I had entered the exam hall of course there is a bit of anxiety and stress that you have because the environment is very serious if I may say so but by attending the questions there was a point I vividly remember I had attempted around say half questions of paper too and I had a feeling it was happening but then I panicked a little towards the end because my strategy was to take three rounds of the question paper in the first round I would attempt the questions that I am almost 90 to 100 percent sure about in the second round I would attempt the questions which need more time for me to think about it or I am confused between two options or I have to use the elimination technique so I would attempt those questions and the third round would be the pure guessing round because there's no negative marking so you have to make a guess random guess yes so I used to attend the exam in three rounds but in second round I had left the di questions from paper one for the second round and unexpectedly they took a lot of my time so which is why I had to haste a little through the third round so that kind of made me a bit anxious but then again I somewhere I was feeling that it was a good experience but I wasn't confident enough to sing it out loud so that was the overall feeling that I had regarding difficulty level I think one thing one thing that I want to like just cut you in the middle I want to again focus on this point that even though the di section took a lot of your time but before but before that you have already completed those questions that you were 90 to 100 percent sure of yes that kind of helped you get out of that moment where you felt stuck that pushed you out of that because you knew that you have done your best in the first round and there are so many questions that you know that are going to be right so that was an amazing strategy I must say first completed the questions that you're 100 percent sure about that's nice yeah please continue you were saying something yes that is about it I think the difficulty level it's a very subjective thing and most of the times had I not been on top I wouldn't be knowing the difficulty level now I can take the luxury of saying that oh it wasn't very difficult had I not qualified I would have said that oh it was very difficult so I think that's a very subjective domain but if you're prepared enough I don't think nothing anything you say you say it right or impossible for you true true wonderful and last and my favorite question that I I though it wasn't there in this interview list so to say but then after having this lovely chat with you I think you're the perfect candidate to whom I would want to take this opportunity to ask this question that this entire net preparation what valuable lessons did you learn while you were preparing for net because you have such a nice philosophical bend that I think that you were the perfect fit to answer this question yes ma'am as I said the most valuable lesson that I learned from is would be that your journey is as important and as beautiful as the destination of course I was very happy when I received my result and I saw that I have pure jrf but there are many moments from my preparation journey which I remember where I felt really happy just because I had read something good that day or just because I had completed my daily target so I think my journey was equally beautiful as the destination and that is something that I would try to maintain afterwards also in life I would try to make the journey as beautiful as possible and secondly I think the list of what literature has taught me would be unending net has given me this opportunity to fall in love with literature all over again this simple thought that you sitting in one corner of the world in your four walls and reading about the mindset and internal discovery of somebody across the world I think it's such a fascinating thought and reading all of those works in about all of those writers there were points when I would tell myself that you know probably I would never read this work again so let me invest my 100% while reading it for the net prep today so I think that my love for literature which has been strengthened by this journey I think that will stay with me till my lifetime and I truly truly cherish this and I would really want that the passion with which you are saying these things if you can just I know you've been sharing it with your students in your college where you teach you must be sharing it on a regular basis but please keep sharing that because this platform that we created harpatakarva.com we created with an intention that we want to create teachers who love teaching so that they can generate students who love learning and I find you as a perfect fit a perfect example who can take this legacy forward can inspire so many brilliant minds to dive in this world of literature and to know how ideas can shape the world can change the society can make this world a better place yes thank you so much for being such a brilliant student I just can't thank you enough and pass on my regards to your family members especially to your mom and dad tell them that we all are very proud that you have done a fantastic upbringing thank you ma'am that means a lot thank you so much and again one interesting story I would want to tell you so there was a time in my life when I stayed in Akula which is very near to Amravati yes it was that time when I kept on hearing about Amravati a lot because I am not from Maharashtra I'm from Rajasthan and Assam so that was a time when a lot of discussions used to happen that okay people are going to go to Amravati it was just a I think a drive of two to three hours from Akula and from from that point Amravati had a very special place in my mind and after meeting you today virtually I think that bond has strengthened so you have a quality and you're always welcome there absolutely absolutely and I would want to welcome you to Jaipur as well a beautiful city and I know that it has a very rich heritage very rich culture a lot of people love visiting here going around seeing those palaces and Hava Mahal and a lot of other beautiful places that we have so anytime you're in this town please let us know we just one phone call away our address of our office is mentioned on the website so even if you come at odd hours when nobody is there to pick up the phone you can directly drop into our office and you'll see some or the other person that love to meet you that's very sweet thank you thank you so much Makhti and thank you so much for this interview means a lot to me I'm wishing you best of luck for all the future endeavors and the way you smile right now and the kind of that charisma that you have inside you I hope that you get more wings to go to places to fulfill your dreams and may god bless you dear thank you ma'am thank you so much thank you thank you so much thank you bye bye I'll see you very very soon yes in Jaipur or in Amravati 100% looking forward to that save you bye bye