 Hello. Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Hi Dawn. Hi Mark. Hi Hailey. Hello, yes. Breathing aside, Relief, I'm on. How's everybody doing on this beautiful day? Good. Great. Waiting for the hurricane. No, I'm just joking. Hi Dennis. Hello there. How are you doing? Okay, how are you doing? Good. I have to kind of make an adjustment here. It's, I have to use my iPad, so that's a little weird. Whatever. Yeah, that's about it. Hi Terry. Hi Terry. Hello. How are you? How are you doing? Good. Good. How's everybody? Pretty good. Thanks. Okay, so far. So far, so good. Huh, Dan? Yup, that's it. Why is this technology work? Oh, I know, huh? We're getting to be all pros at this. That's right. I take nothing for granted. Yeah, neither do I. Who's, who's taking notes on this meeting? I am. Okay, thank you. Yup. The next two meetings. Okay. We're going to see Terry kick back and put her feet up, huh? Yup. Hi, Sarah. How you doing? I'm okay. Thanks. Thank you, Hailey. No problem. Hi, Chad. Hi, Chad. Hailey, have you heard from anybody that said they couldn't make it? No. Yeah. Okay. Everybody excited about the upcoming block party? Yes. I'll be there. That's a really nice event. Yeah. Yes it is. Really well done. It was very well done last year. It's a lot of fun and it pulls people out that, you know, at least I will say for me, folks I haven't seen in a while, because I don't have kids in school anymore, so it's fun. Was it in the senior senate newsletter? What? The block party? No, because I didn't find out the date and time. Oh, okay. As I was like, I didn't know about the block party. What is the block party? It's sponsored by the town or the bid in Amherst College, so it's kind of like a welcome back for the students. So they have like circus performers and live music and a lot of town departments are participating this year. And like usually the restaurants, they close down Main Street and there's like tons of food vendors and lots of stuff. So I think they had like thousands. There were thousands of people last year, so it's a good way to be seen. Last year there was a huge stage set up at, I think that's North Pleasant Inamity. And it was and a lot of street lighting, auxiliary street lighting, big crowds, really well received. So I expected to be just as good this year. I think I have two stages this year. Really? Two stages? Yeah. Where will the other one be at the other end? I think, yeah, down there Amherst College. I wasn't there last year, but the previous year they had a small stage by Kendrick and then a big one. So kind of, you know, either end of the area. Okay. I think I'm going to get us started because I do believe we have quorum. I know we are missing a few folks, but for just my benefit, who are we missing? So, well, we're going to do roll call. So you're going to okay. Good. That's what you're going to hear. Okay. All right. Great. Thank you. Do you have a list of the people who are on the council, Don? I have a list from the last minutes you sent of who was here and who wasn't. So I'm assuming I have it all. Yeah. And if not, as we do roll call if you need. Yeah, we do roll call. That's fine. Okay. So I'm going to call the council on aging meeting to order. Pursuant to Governor Baker's March 12, 2020 order suspending certain provisions of the open meeting law, general law chapter 30a section 18. This meeting of the council on aging is being conducted be a remote participation. This meeting is also being recorded. Okay. Now take roll call. Terry. Here. Chad. Yeah. Dennis. Right here. Don. Right here. Sarah. Here. Mark. Here. Here. Jacqueline. Not here in Christina. I don't believe is with us. Are there any members of the public who wish to make comment? Hailey, do you see anybody? No. No. Okay. All right. We will start then with the director's update. Yes. So there has been a lot of happenings over the summer. We, some of you, this may have happened after our last meeting in June or July, but Donna Hancock retired. She was our nutrition coordinator. So she was the one who oversaw the Highland Valley Meals program, both the home delivered meals and the grab and go meals. We've had that position posted since the end of July. And there's been a few applicants, but their skill set doesn't really match the position or what we're looking for. So you haven't had a whole lot of luck in trying to find a replacement for her. During her absence, Julia, our volunteer and outreach coordinator has stepped up to the plate and done a really fantastic job of overseeing that program. You know, she's down in the lunch room every day for the bulk of her day, trying to balance both her responsibilities as volunteer coordinator and now doing the nutrition program. So we are definitely searched thin. Some of you may have heard we also lost our admin assistant Al that happened in early August. So we've been without a nutrition coordinator and an admin assistant for about a month, maybe a little over a month now. You know, it's been very stressful. I have to give a tremendous thanks and, you know, appreciation to Helen and Julia and myself and our volunteers and for everybody for holding it down as best we can. The staffing shortage has necessitated that we close the lounge on occasion if there's not going to be any staff or staff need to leave for a meeting or go to lunch. It's necessitated closing programs for the day because we don't have enough staff support. You know, we had a period of time where it was just Helen and I at the senior center trying to run everything. I had a day where I was actually the only person there at the senior center. And so my focus was on getting lunches out. And that was about it. So I can definitely say we are feeling the stress of being short staffed. But thankfully, our new admin assistant will be starting next Thursday, the 21st. Her name's Diana Wheeler. Currently she's working at the town hall at the clerk's office. But she will be joining us next week. And that'll be a huge relief, I think for everybody, because it really has been very hectic trying to balance everything and trying to mitigate people's expectations when staff realistically can't, can't always help or can't immediately address an issue or someone's question. So everyone who's been patient with us, we thank you. But I don't know if people have questions about the staffing. I could move on if not. I think Mark has his hand up. Yes. No? No. Thank you. Oh, okay. Cool. Oh, sorry, I guess. Sorry. So yeah, so the staffing's been an issue. We're also kind of seeing a trickle effect now where we don't have our volunteer coordinator and we have been without enough staff support to give our volunteers enough to do. So we are trying to remind folks that this is just temporary, because we've had some volunteers say, you know, it's I'm not sure if I want to continue volunteering because it's been kind of quiet, but it's kind of quiet because we don't have the ability to step back and say, these are the things we want you to be working on, because really every day for the last month or so has been just taking things day by day. There hasn't been a lot of long range planning because there can't be when you're working with so many variables. So again, I just want to say thank you to the staff, to the volunteer team, to everyone. You know, we made it work and no one went hungry and I'm tremendously proud of that. And once we have our team back together, you know, we can get right back into the swing of things and trying to, you know, recoup some of that ground. You know, I said, while I was talking about staffing, you know, the program cut. So again, having to unexpectedly close down for an hour or two hours or the whole day, we've had to do that quite a few times. And then all while balancing that issue, we've definitely seen a couple of folks who pop in and they are members of our homeless community. And there are also people who have really significant mental health problems, you know, something really severe like schizophrenia. So we've had a couple of issues with people who come in and just make people uncomfortable because they're dominating the conversation. And the conversation skews very negative. It tends to skew towards a lot of the problems that they're having or the issues they're having with other people and wanting to punch that person or wanting to punch my staff because my staff is telling them, please don't talk that way. You know, while people are trying to play cards, it's really not appropriate. So that has been an issue, but that thankfully is being addressed. I had a meeting with Gabe Ting and Paul Backelman, and we talked about security. And so APD will be doing a little bit more foot patrols in our area just coming in and having a presence, which I am really appreciative of because, you know, in situations like that, and particularly with really acute mental illness, what I'm looking for in a response is somebody who has the authority to remove that person if they become an issue because tensions can run high. And this particular individual has a really lengthy criminal history from what I understand. And it has a propensity towards violence. So for me, that's what I'm looking for in a response is if things are getting out of hand. And again, we've got a group of older adults and one of them is in a wheelchair. And one of them it has very low mobility. If something happens, I need to have that person removed and as quickly as possible. So I'm really thankful that APD has done that for us. People have questions about that that just kind of carries on conversations that we've had from months past where, you know, people are sleeping, trying to sleep at the bank center where they're sleeping outside, or they're stealing donations, or they're causing scenes, and just really trying to get a handle on making people feel safe, making my staff feel safe, making everybody who comes into the bank center feel like they can comfortably be there. And Don, you have a question. Yeah, just quickly. I know you were discussing this when we were in talking about the possibility of writing a grant. I just want to make sure you're satisfied with the response that you got because I know that day you would have a meeting with the people. Yes, I think the town manager really understands and he has been really great about meeting with me and talking this out and trying to come up with some solutions. Good. Yeah, thank you. So I do want to ask a question and is, to my recollection, I don't remember this being a habitual problem in the past. And I'm wondering if the church that used to house the homeless people, I wonder if they're still helping people, or why would they want to come into the bank center to sleep if they had a place to go to, and they traditionally, that church right over there, I think it's first churches, they always helped and they have sofas and they would allow people to sleep there. So what has changed that made this situation arise and how long has it been going on? I don't remember it being a past, in the past years, an issue. From what I understand from past directors, it was an issue. But I think what's changed, and as far as I know, the church does still help, and even Craig's Doors has expanded a lot of services. But in my experience working with individuals who are experiencing homelessness, there are folks who want help, but there are also folks who don't, and for whom the structure of that kind of setting is just not what they're looking for. I also think there are other factors. There's certainly been a spike in mental health issues. I think all of us read the headlines and we know that taking more prominent street drugs have gotten a lot more potent. They've gotten a lot, it's not, when you read about fentanyl and tranq and some of these other things, they are a lot more destructive, I think, to communities as a whole. So why? I don't think we could pinpoint it on any one thing, but I think there are a number of social factors that contribute to that. And Amherst provides a lot of services, and when you provide a lot of services, it does attract more individuals who might potentially want those services. So I think part of the influx could just be more people coming in and trying to get help, because we do offer really great help and support through the Survival Center and through Craig's Doors and a myriad of other places. So I don't know if I can totally answer that question in a satisfactory way, but I can definitely tell you that within the last six months or so, I've definitely noticed what seems to be an uptick. It's not every day, so I wouldn't want people to feel afraid. It's not every day, but it happens enough and it's starting to be a regular thing. So maybe not once a week, but maybe two times a month, and that's happening every month. And then that becomes more and more of an issue. And certainly you have to worry that once people start coming in with those kind of behavior patterns, are they going to attract more people to join them? Because there's a hangout spot right in front of the bank center across from Mexico, where a lot of people congregate. And I was walking a woman home the other day, people are hanging out there and they're dropping n-bombs and f-bombs, and I'm trying to walk this poor woman home. People congregate downtown, people congregate where they feel safe and they feel like they can kind of lay low. And I think that is true of the bank center at Office Tree Bathrooms. It has AC in the summer, it has heat in the winter. It is an attractive place to hang out for any member of the community. Is that kind of what you were looking for in an answer? What happened to, well, you kind of touched a little bit on the frequency. What happened to the group that is not there to arrest them, but there to try to keep order? Yeah, that's the community responder program. So I think, you know, their directors have been on administrative leave. So I think things are, I don't know how they are, but I imagine there's a transitional period right when somebody, when your director is gone. You know, so I do think that in the future we will be able to rely on them more, but just right now for probably factors I don't know about it, that's just not happening. You might want to research with the library Kristina. It's a typical similar place to the bank center. If you want to hear more about how things are done. Craig's Place is changing what they're doing, but the UU church still has a little going on, ACC, Amherst Community Connections is still doing what it's doing. But yeah, there's different places in Amherst that they can go and different places in Amherst, they can't go. It's my understanding that Craig's Stores expanded so that they would not have to go leave in the morning, that they can be there a full day. Yes, they do offer the 24-7 care now, which is really great because that was needed for them. Where are they located, by the way? Well, I first want to just acknowledge Jacqueline's had her hand up for a while, and Craig Stores has kind of spread out. They have the resource center, they have some rooms at the former Econolodge, and then there's another location that I just can't remember. The church itself, the Protestant church by UMass. No, they're not at the Baptist Church anymore. They're at the Lutheran now. Lutheran is what I meant. Jacqueline? I defer to the others because I've been trying, I've been having technology problems, and I've been trying to lower my hand. Oh, okay. I can relate. Yeah, I think I can. I think I, yeah. Does that fix it? Because you don't have a question anymore, right? You said? No, I think Christina touched on what I came in late with my technology, great expertise, and you were, I guess, in the middle of this conversation, and my question was resources, other resources in the community, because of the way we tend to, whether they be elders or youngers, we look at people who are different, and provisions are often not made to address some of the issues, but you brought up the Cres program in the town, and I'd just be interested in other public health resources that are made available, and not just left to the church. Because I've heard that a couple of years ago that there was something like a seven-year waiting list, not for people who were houseless necessarily in the same way, but for seniors. I have been checking more recently that there was a seven-year waiting list, and my question was, do seniors not matter when thinking about that? And we're thinking, I guess, somebody maybe outside the box sounded like you might have been discussing a younger population, but still they're people, and there are taxes being paid by local citizens, and sometimes we forget, sometimes we forget, and I'm not a Pollyanna, I'm not a Pollyanna. I grew up in a situation in Macon, Georgia, where there had to be compassion for people. I grew up in a household, a three-bedroom house, I've told the story before, about 25 people, and if somebody was having a real hard time, my big mama would open much to my chagrin, though it didn't directly impact me, and I wondered how can you do that? And more modern days, I think that you shouldn't have to worry alone or the senior programs and services, but what about the community? I know you're affected, so it causes you to speak out, but I think when I was here back in the late 70s and 80s, there was a woman who was very active at the survival center, and she'd come to our services at the Unitarian Church every Sunday morning to remind the congregation that people are starving and people have no place to go in Amherst, and it was like a jolt meant to awaken an affluent, predominantly white congregation to the fact that there's a different world out there from much too many people. Perhaps at a future meeting, we could look to invite other folks in our community to talk more about these issues and what's in place and particularly with the lens on supporting what the senior population is looking like there, so I think that would be important to do. I think that's a good idea. Yeah. Hayley, did you have any other? Yeah, so I can also update you and let you all know that I met with Dave Zomak and Rob Mora to talk about what priorities I'd like to identify in using ARPA funds. We did a walkthrough of the building and looked at some of the spatial deficiencies and things that we could hopefully do to improve that first floor area, so I thought that was really helpful and appreciated them taking the time to meet with me and hear all of my list of things that I want and I think that the center really needs, you know, again with that special focus on exercise and social participation and getting a functional kitchen inside, so those are kind of the top areas that I was talking about with them. And then the other things I had are just calendar things which we can talk about under old business. Can I just ask one question with regards to ARPA? Do you, and I feel like I'm a broken record because I feel like I'm constantly asking this question, but are we, are we confirmed to get? Yeah, I think yes, but I also would say that, you know, in my opinion, you should never just settle, right? When you get something, there's always something more you could add on to that. So, and, you know, and Dave did remind me, you know, we can do capital request plans and you know, things like that, but it's going to be coming up and we will. So, but yeah, I definitely would say that we can always keep pushing for senior issues for getting, you know, that there's a lot of work that needs to be done to the bank center and that could honestly benefit other departments, you know. We do share a space now with Crest, with Public Health, with the Veterans Office, with DEI benefits to, you know, fixing up the building that they apply to everybody there and people who want to just come and use the space. Yeah, I think it's beneficial to the community as a whole, to do, you know, upgrades and improve facilities. Okay, so my takeaway is it sounds like we're going to get money, but we need to keep reminding the politicians in town that hold the purse strings about who we are and what we need. I would say so I think yes, I would say yes, and I would just say that really because COVID made us very quiet and I think older adults have a lot to say and they should be heard and if we're not speaking at public meetings, at town meetings, then people don't know about what we do or why it matters. So yeah, I would say we can, you know, you can always be advocating, Amherst is a very great community if you want to be an advocate and I think people are receptive to that, just something that they know about us. So we need to do more, a little bit more in your face in a nice way. And Jacqueline and Christina. Is there any training lobbyists amongst us? We should have recruited some for board members. Jacqueline, you had your hand up. Yes, in keeping with that part of the conversation and the agenda, I'm aware of the fact that the center is a place for the services to be offered, but I've encountered over the past period of COVID especially, a question that based on my observation, how do we address issues for seniors who may not be coming into the building, but have services that would provide for them, like seniors who have memory issues or mobility issues or attention span issues. And I know that they're categorized in a certain way in academia, but thinking about including them as we think about what to do and how to use the ARPA monies, how might that figure into the conversation? Sure. So one of the things that I made sure to talk about with Dave and Rob were things that I've learned from other senior centers who have renovated design features that should be included for older adults with dementia or with low visual acuity. You know, I pointed out a myriad of things that we can do to kind of increase or improve the wayfinding and people who have low mobility. How do they navigate the center? So those are all part of the conversation for sure. There's a lot of research out there. There are special design firms that focus on senior building, which I have talked to and read a lot about. So I just made sure to include those in the conversation. And I think as far as it goes with people who can't come to the center, that's where transportation access comes in. When I say can't come for any number of reasons, even the level of energy, just wondering. I've just been wondering. Yeah. So I mean, there are different areas in the center. The lounge can be a quiet hangout space. You know, we do fast paced exercise. We do slower paced exercise. We have a lively cafe on Wednesdays. You know, so I think you're never going to please everybody. But in designing a space, you want to have a little something for everyone. You want to have that quiet reading nook. You want to have a place where people can talk and be social and different kinds of activity rooms for all the programming. And I would definitely still emphasize though, like the transportation is key. Having a Monday, Wednesday, Friday van is huge. But you know, a lot of other senior centers in the area do five days a week service. And some of them even have multiple vans. You know, people who don't drive, people who use walkers or wheelchairs, you know, the van is a lifeline for that. And that was really why I wanted to get the Silver Shuttle up and running. So for the people who want to come to the center, but can't get there, that gives them a way to do it. And if you don't have any more comments, I know Christina has her hand up. I think I'm not going to mention it because then it's going to get off topic. I just, I don't know. I just felt that if the people the same way that we do information sessions and invite the elderly and seniors to find out about services, the other organizations have to be informed that they need to do something similar for the population that is now coming into the center and praying on the elderly. And I don't accept that they cannot do anything about it. Someone has to tell them that they reach out to them and say, this is an issue. It's not just removing someone. It's giving them, like Jacqueline said, their people, giving them the same respect, giving them a source, an info session where they can gather. If they still have those breakfasts at the Unitarian Society, bring people to talk to them about what services are available for them, where they can go during the daytime and maybe people to talk to them about how them being around seniors that are vulnerable affects the seniors. And so I think something can be done differently, not just, oh, remove them. Oh, give them a place to go. Tell them where to go. Give, bring those professionals to talk to them about what's available for them. Because I always, when someone's on the corner asking for a dollar, people say, oh, they should get a job. But that same person is going to stab me for my pocketbook if I don't give them that dollar. So the analogy I'm trying to make is we can't ignore people that need, because once we ignore any population, they're going to prey on another population. I think, obviously, it's a complicated issue that requires a variety of different strategies. And I have to say, for my time at the senior center, I've seen situations and I applaud all the staff that have managed them because they're not, they're not easy. I think it's an ongoing challenge, certainly for our town and our world, and, you know, to drill down to bangs as well. But I can definitely add something, though, because I don't want you to think that people just come in and we kick them out. People do get services. And this particular individual who I'm talking about, I've worked with him in shelters before. He knows about the programs that are in the area. He's gotten help. He just, if he's not taking his medication, he's having a really bad day. And no one coming into the center is going to dissuade somebody who is telling me that he wants me to call the police because he's going to hurt somebody. You know, those are the situations where I want APD removing this person. I've worked with homeless individuals. I've worked at the survival center. I understand I grew up with nothing and have had to work very hard in life. You know, I'm very empathetic, but once people turn that corner from needing empathy and needing help into being a potential hazard for other people, I've got to act. But yeah, we do. And, you know, there are a lot of services and a lot that I'm familiar with and can let people know about, you know, but this particular individual, I don't think any of that would have made any difference to because he was just having a really bad day. I rest my case then. It sounds like it's just one individual and not like different, a whole group of people praying on the seniors in the senior center. Yeah. Yeah, we do. It doesn't tend, it's not like people descending on it, but there do tend to be, like I said, every couple, couple times a month, we get one person who's coming in and they want to make it their space and it's the senior space. And so we have to try to balance that. And it usually goes pretty well, but not always. Okay. Haley, do you want to resume your report? Do you have other? The only other thing I was going to say is that we are doing, or we are letting the Hampshire County Food Policy Committee do an oral storytelling presentation on Friday, October 6th at 4pm. So they've interviewed a lot of people who are experiencing food insecurity, some of whom are older adults, and they're going to be presenting that at the bank center on that Friday night in the first Friday, I think in October. It should be really interesting or something I really wanted. When I heard about it, I said I really want to have it here at the bank center because I think it'll be really eye-opening for a lot of people in the community. Christina, Jack, like you said, there are a lot of people who just don't know how little people have and how difficult that is. So these kind of programs help with that. What was the date on that? It's Friday, October 6th at 4pm. Thank you. Is that new, Haley, or has something like that? Yeah, so they, I think it's new. I've never heard, I think it's new for them, too, because they're doing this big storytelling circle, and they had reached out to me back in April or May to try to coordinate doing the room, and they've spent the summer interviewing people, so now they've compiled the stories and are ready to share them. That's awesome. Any other questions or comments for Haley? Anything new for fall that you wanted to share with us? We'll do a health fair on Tuesday, October 17th from 2 to 4, so I've pulled together a bunch of different local health care providers. I like doing this in October because it's an open enrollment season, so people are trying to navigate health insurance very timely. Again, I think a lot of people just don't know the options that are around, and there are quite a few different providers in the area, so we'll have that and should be good. I'm hoping for a good turnout. And, you know, unfortunately, some of the fall time activities I was hoping to do has just been very challenging, again, not having any staff or not having enough staff to do it, so I think once we get our admin assistant in place, I'm just going to try to focus on doing some holiday, some winter themed programs, it tends to be a difficult time for everyone, but I think particularly older adults, if you don't have family nearby, if you've lost someone in your life, the holidays aren't always bright and cheery, so I think part of my job is to make it more cheery for people, so we'll be concentrating on that once Christina, not Christina, but Diana gets on board. Great. Okay. We'll move on to old business, so our calendar review, and can you do a screen share on that, Hailey? I'm going to have to look for the calendar. While you're looking, so we did mention earlier, next week is the town block party on Thursday the 21st, and we are going to have a table there, so I'm wondering if, for folks who are planning on going, if you could help us out, and I think if we could do our shifts at the table, that wouldn't be an undue burden, so there are any fine folks on COA who would throw their hand up and help us staff the table? Mark? Excellent, Mark. It's going to be fun. We've got some really great giveaway items. We have a special celebrity guest who will be joining us. We're really going all out, because we're across from the fire station, and they have Sparky the Dog, they have a bubble machine, they have the fire trucks, they have all these toys, so we're trying to compete with them, or at least I'm trying to compete with them, you know, show them who's boss in town, senior center, standing out, always. I think we're going to need an animal, a mascot. I think so, yeah, we might have to get some kind of costume, although I don't know what it would be. Or if we had dogs, if people have a pet, people love animals, maybe we did that. All right, let's focus here. Anyone else? It starts from f5, and it runs until 9, but you're certainly not expected to stay until 9. Usually town people leave like once it gets dark, because then it's just concert time. Anyone else willing to help out at the table? I apologize, I'll be out of town that day, that whole week actually. Okay, we'll take lots of pictures. I urge you to see what you can do about helping us out. I will also be there, Mark, so we'll be having a blast at the table with all these nifty giveaways. Is it okay if I bring somebody else who's not a senior? I'm not a senior, and I'll be there. Well, I have to be at the table. Yeah, why not? As long as they're ready to rep the senior center very hard, if they're willing to go all out and talk about how awesome we are, then anyone can do that. Okay, thank you. Okay, and hopefully others will discover that they can help, and if so, please just either email Haley or myself. We'd appreciate it. All right, so looking at the- One last question, I'm sorry on that topic. Is there a way that maybe we could use the neighbors listing to ask for volunteers? Well, I don't know if we need a whole lot of volunteers. I'll be honest with you just because a lot more town departments signed up this year, and the space in front of the fire department's only so big. Okay. One thing actually that might be really cool is that people want to have people planted in the crowd and hand out some things and say, hey, this tent this way, we could probably use that. That would be really fun. All right, thank you. Okay, so let's focus our attention on the month of September. So in addition to the block party, we had listed the AARP grant ideas, and we're going to circle back to that in a second because we've had numerous conversations about grants, so we'll just put that on hold for right now. Coming up in October, the health fair that Haley already mentioned, the volunteer fair. Yes, so Julie and I are committed to doing it, but it admittedly has been hard for both her and I. So that one I might put in italics this year, we couldn't do it, but it's a good idea to do one in October, so hopefully we can finish putting it all together in time because students are around. When we did the first one, I think we had to do it at a certain time based on the grant that we had received, but it was like May or something, and obviously the students aren't around. You don't get as much of a turnout. But yeah, I will definitely confirm once we get all our ducks in a row on that. Okay, excellent. And then there's a fire department open house in October, right? So if you've never been, the fire department does this really awesome open house. They have all the fire trucks. They have that bubble machine and Sparky, and they do like free donuts and coffee, and they allow other town departments to table. So again, it's just a good way to get out in the community and meet people and say we're here and we're awesome. So I really like doing it. That event is going to be Saturday, October 14th, early. I think they run it. I think it starts at like nine and goes to like one o'clock or something, but that'll definitely be up on the town calendar. Okay. And that's a great event if you have young children, either grandchildren or neighbors or whatnot. That's a very fun event because they're usually handing out the firefighter hats among other things. So yeah, kids really enjoyed that. Okay. All right. Hold on. One sec. I just have to... I have my son's dog who's unhappy. I'm going to be right back. We don't hear barking, but the next thing we're going to talk about is new subcommittees. Could I go back to the calendar before we leave it? Sure. What's your question? I'm really happy that we have this now. The idea was so that we could do more planning and look into the future and be ready for things. I'm wondering if we can get dates on them. So we know what week of the month it is, the days. I'm wondering if we want to talk about spreading things out so that we can man or woman them with more... I'm sorry. I missed the beginning of your question, Chad. Yeah. I wanted to congratulate you and Hayley for getting the calendar out. The idea to it was so that we could do more planning and organize our energies to be ready for these things that are on here. I was wondering if we could get the actual dates of when they are and whether we wanted to talk about spreading things out, the things that we can control, so that we can get more energy into staffing them, making them really good things, pumping them up and that sort of thing. Just before we left it, I wanted to make those three points. That's all. Sure. Well, the calendar is new for us and I look at it as a live document. We're constantly tweaking it and I think that's an excellent point that we don't want to have one month have 10 events and two months have nothing at all. So I do think it's going to continue to evolve. And what I do expect once the senior center is fully staffed is we're going to be adding many more things to this calendar. So yeah. Yeah. I would definitely say I'd like to see if we can talk about it rather than it just be laid out and presented to us and that's that. If you get some input from the members of this organization, they might be able to tell you what they could do in certain months. Traditionally, before Haley came, everybody dropped out of the council on aging over the summer. There was no work done in the summer. Unfortunately, you missed a meeting, Chad, where we kind of introduced the calendar and kind of talked about how we were going to utilize it. So I'm happy to have a separate conversation with you, but I don't want to take our meeting time to go backwards on things just because if you look at the minutes, you'll see why I presented it as something that we should do. I don't know, like you say, if that's changed since then or what. But we are doing it. We're talking about it right now. And we asked people if they were helpful. And on the agenda for the meeting, it does lay out the date. So when I was talking about this calendar with Gene, this is only month by month because these dates might change from one year to the next. I don't know ahead of time what the block party date is, but I know it happens in September. And if I know it happens in September, then in June or July, I can start planning for it. At each individual meeting we can talk about or the month before or two months before, what is this date that we need to be aware of? But I think just long-term planning, you just want to have like a rough frame. Like if we're looking at this calendar and it's January and we know that the Senior Center Open House happens in April, well, then we should all be thinking about, am I going to be able to participate? What organizations did we work with last year? Who could we invite this year? Have we reached out to all our town counselors and invited them? It was purposely designed just to be a month by month because dates change. And as you get closer, you can set it, but work can be done months ahead of time without knowing the exact date. I will also say, as I said, I think it's going to continue to evolve. And as folks have ideas and suggestions, we'll be looking to revise the calendar. So I just find it always useful to be able to kind of look ahead and see what's coming because among the things is activities can kind of come up on you quickly. And some of these things take a lot of time. So I want us to be very planful. As such, I want to segue to new business, which is the formation of a couple of subcommittees. The first one to focus on grants. We had a recent experience where we found out about a grant from AARP and it looked fabulous and it was fabulous. But for folks who have ever written a grant, you know, it's a tremendous amount of work and you can't do that overnight, particularly ones when we need expertise from the town, trying to get their time and attention and documents from them. So it was, although we didn't end up submitting a grant, it was, I feel like a fruitful experience in that we learned that we can do some homework now and that's forming this grant subcommittee where we can kind of pull together documents and kind of get our ducks in a row, if you will, so that when a grant application presents itself, we'll be able to move much more quickly and be in a better position to be able to execute the grant without pulling everybody's hair out. Don and Sarah, you are involved in anything you would like to add to our grant experience? Just that I thought after, I mean, I agree with you entirely, getting a few people together in the last week or so before the thing is due was not an easy thing, but like in this particular case, if we had, if it was something we were planning ahead, there were actually a lot of resources online, like this particular organization, the part of the state that wants to get out these grants, practically falling all over you to get you to put the grant in correctly and stuff like that. So I think if we had had the time, we would have had a pretty high rate of success with that particular one, but I agree with setting up a committee to look at those things. Yeah, me too. I think there was, you know, there was good potential. It's just, it's hard when you have to rely on people in the town and everybody's so stretched for time. So if we have a little more, we can plan a little further ahead to get those requests out to give them the time they need to get us the information back. I think that'll just make it more feasible to do these things. Okay. So who would like to be on the grant subcommittee? I can do that. Great. It depends. I'd raise my hand halfway, depending on what specific skills are needed. You know, there's things all the way from, you know, counting things, stuffing, embolos, sort of mechanical things. There's writing, there's planning, there's interpersonal contact. So depending on what is sought, I guess, yeah, the subcommittee is going to tell us this is something that's already been worked on a little bit. Well, what I need from a subcommittee who does grants are people who are really proficient writers, people who know how to speak grants because it is his own language, people who are tech savvy enough that you can go and search for grants on the web, that you can research them, that you can, you know, you can, as a grant subcommittee member, come up with, hey, I found this particular grant. Meet with me, talk about, you know, how could we use that funding here at the Senior Center and then assist me in the application process and by assist, you know, my schedule is such that sometimes I'm not going to have the ability to write the grant, but I could certainly review, I could certainly be part of the editing process. So again, we need people who are really good communicators written, you know, really strong writers. And that's what I, that's what I would need. All right. So it's not just from the Department of Elder Affairs. It's any grants, federal and state. Anything that could be possibly applicable. Some of the grants deal with ADA issues or making the building accessible. MCOA does a lot of grant opportunities and keeping an eye open. All right. I'm not a writer. I don't write grants. I have, you know, directly grant writing teams and manage grants and that sort of thing, but I'm not a writer. That's why I ask a little about that. So you could be going to, what is it, the grants registry, that place in the library in the quad down in Springfield and researching through that whole contendium of grants. And it's just a wide open, it's a wide open kind of grants. I would get involved in some of that. Yes. Okay. Very good. The other subcommittee I would like us to create is regarding a program review. And it does appear on the calendar and I had dropped it in in January, but that was just kind of arbitrary. I just feel like this would be a good time for us to get started on that. And what I mean by program review and Haley, feel free to weigh in if I'm off-shilter here, but I think it's been some time since all the programs and services offered by the senior center have been looked at. And I think we need to do a review to kind of map out what needs, where we're meeting, you know, who's the program for? Are we, you know, how many people are we attracting? You know, all the different categories. And that's going to, you know, when we complete that, it will give us a good idea of what we're good at, where, you know, our areas of strength, if you will. And also, I think it will help us identify areas that we need to focus upon. Maybe there's some populations we're not meeting their needs. We haven't offered programming for them. So those are the kinds of things I mean by program review. I hope that is... Yeah, that's very much so. You know, it has been quite a long time and we've definitely tried a lot of different kinds of programs, some of which were new to the senior center, you know, since I've been here. You know, we know that we're not meeting every demographic that we would like to be meeting. You know, I think for the last year and a half, my focus has just been on like broad appeal kind of programs, just as a way to kind of bring people in the door with the expectation that more foot traffic could lead to more specialized programming being developed. But, you know, our foot traffic is still not where I would like it to be. It's grown quite a lot. But I think we could do a little bit more. So yeah, we need to just kind of go through and look at how many people are coming to this program. You know, are we spending money on this program? Is it cost-effective to do this program? How could we improve it? And again, bringing in some new people to the center. Okay. Who would like to be on that subcommittee, the program review? Dennis? Yeah. If it's okay to be on more than one subcommittee, I'll join that as well. Excellent. Thank you, Mark. I will tentatively say yes. Okay. That's a yes. Thanks. Does anybody else have some free time? I think this subcommittee in particular, I would like us to meet sooner rather than later. You know, again, like I said, the holidays are coming up and that can be a really stressful time. I think it's a really good time to look at what we've got going on and what we could improve upon. I will volunteer for that as well. I'm very hopeful that this is going to be a very enlightening experience and, you know, as I said, confirm what we do well and really help identify kind of the future, what we should be going after. So the other thing I feel like, and I apologize, you do not have this on the agenda. So if anybody wants to stop, may feel free. But the other piece of information that I feel like would be really beneficial for us to know is to get a clearer picture of who the Amherst seniors are demographically. And I know we've got some information, but I would like to see if we can drill down and get even more. And so I will volunteer myself to seek out census information from the town clerk. I don't know exactly what, how much can be shared and what they have. But I just feel like I really like, I'd like to have clarity on kind of who we are as a cohort to then kind of measure as we look at what we're offering. Well, yeah, so you're saying that the information that you want to get from town halls should also be part of this committee? I'm sorry, say that again. In my opinion, that should be a part of the senior center review process. Am I right? Yes. Yes. I mean, it's, it's, if you're figuring out what programs are being offered, then you should also be able to use as a starting point who your audience is to begin with. Yep. That's what makes sense to me. Yeah, makes sense. And then you can kind of map out who's, you know, what's what. Then you compare it to who's actually coming to the center and, okay, there's two studies that have been done, the age and dementia friendly has their statistics. There's also a health and needs survey done out of UMass of the town just after that. So there's those two. You also have the American, I forget the full name of it, American Family Survey that comes alternate to the census, the federal census, and then you have the census itself. So there's some that are pretty fine tuned and some that are pretty broad based. But this gets back to the strategic plan idea I've been trying to go forward with for ever. So we're not quite there yet, Chad, but we're going to do our kind of homework and we can work toward things. But thank you for identifying those other resources. And if anyone else is aware of any other resources, please share. That would be great. Age and dementia action plan. So hopefully all of you had sufficient time to review the report and the action plan that was shared out. Hayley said that with our agenda. So obviously there's all these a variety of domains. And what we wanted to look at is what is one goal we can look to implement? Because there we could, well, we could work full time for the next year and not get everything done. But realistically, let's start with one thing in terms of what we can focus on it with the hope being we complete that one, we can move on to another one, right? That it's not one and done, that it's just the beginning outlining the process. Do you want to add anything to that, Hayley? Yeah, I think what I think would be really achievable is if we focused on social participation and community services. You know, some of the things like housing, you know, we can definitely be advocates for, but that's going to be a lot more challenging to achieve. You know, if one of the goals is say, let me just look at things really quickly, you know, expand the home health care and home health care workforce and advocate for the coverage of home health care services by Medicare, you know, that's something that could take many years. But we could make concrete steps if we focus on, you know, participation and doing things like working with UMass and local schools for intergenerational programming, you know, that could be a lot more achievable in the short term. So I would suggest that we concentrate on what can be achieved within a year or two. I think, you know, people probably didn't have enough time to really come through it. I would like us to just read through it and then next month come together and each one person share one goal that they would like to do, you know, with the parameter that it be something that can be accomplished within a year or two, because that I think easy wins help build morale, it helps build confidence, you know, and then we'd be in a better position to maybe tackle some of those more challenging things that are going to require a vast amount of resources or a lot of people to make work. Is there an actual list that you have composed or is this? Yes. So I sent that out with the agenda in the minutes. So I won't get that because of the screwed up email. So you could stop by the senior center and pick up a hard copy. The report was compiled by Becky Bosch from the Pioneer Valley Planning Commission. It actually, I don't know what your email situation is Chad, but the action plan has gone out I think a couple of times. So I don't know if your email situation is recent phenomenon. No, it's June, July, August and now September. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Okay. All right. Anyone have any other questions about the Agent Dementia? So I just was, you know, because I spent a lot of time looking at this in the last week, but so I noticed like there's some, they aren't simple, but like I think what we're talking about some specific things like even trying to come up with a voluntary registry of people who in town who have dementia and then and then they're talking about, you know, maybe bringing together other other people who provide services and whatever. So even just, I think what you're saying is if we even attack something, not necessarily that one, but something like that, that one thing we could actually get that done and that would lead to helping other things. So I'm a big fan of breaking it into small pieces. So what you're saying is are we going to discuss coming up with that next meeting? Is that what you're saying? To just review and come up with one thing. Okay. We get to fight it out in other words. Yeah, that's right. Well, or if we come up with nine things, I mean, we could prioritize and chip away at that too. Right. And Mark, you had a question. Yeah, I just I was wondering, because I'm so new to all this, does the town health department help us with any of these concerns? Yeah, actually, so we do, we have like a freestanding kind of nurses hours at the bank center. And I have definitely worked with Olivia. She actually just participated in a training that I had coordinated about suicide prevention in older adults. And we were joined by by the Crest Department and by one of the firefighters. Very helpful. So she's been great, you know, I definitely send people up her way. And she's indicated that she's more than willing to do blood pressure screenings and, you know, a lot of different programs. It's just a matter of getting the word out about them. Because, you know, if no one shows up, it's not as effective. Sarah? Yeah, I mean, I was kind of riffing off of what Don just said. I wondered if there would we have these events, these town events coming up would if and I don't I know we will decide at the next meeting, but would there be some benefit to having a sign up sheet that we could set at the table if this is going to be one of our priority areas to work here? We at some point will need to compile that list. So would there be some benefit to having at least starting to do that at some of these big outreach events where you could say are you or someone you know your neighbor could are these people we could start reaching out to. So, you know, I just didn't know if it would be worth, even if that's not the one we going to be our primary focus at some level, we do need to know who those people are. Oh, yeah, I would for sure. All that goes to community outreach relationship building, you know, and it might not even be that we're connecting with an older adult, it might be someone's adult child, one's grandchild that sees that. And so yeah, I would say, I mean, to me, there's really no reason to just not spread the message in any and all venues that that is the key to being successful in Amherst is just making sure that you close your eyes and you're thinking the words Amherst Senior Center or you know, action plan steps. So we just want to embed those earworms. I think the other thing we want to do is we want to do a better job at our self promotion. So that we are taking advantage of these large programs and collecting information from people, including, you know, emails, so that electronically we have a bigger list of folks, you know, people are coming to us, you know, we want to make the most of that experience and let them know about what's happening and what we need. And to that end, Dennis, this is a nice segue for you. You want to tell them what you've been working on? Yeah, well, I do a lot of photography for the town. And so that includes photography of events that have to do with the Senior Center, the COA, and that sort of thing. And so I've accumulated a group and we've reviewed a group of photographs that will go on a triptych exhibition board. And so basically the last step for me now will be to get enlargements made of these photographs that I've already shot and we'll be putting them up on the board so that Gene will be able to use them at, let's say, the block party and other events where the COA will be trying to raise its profile, letting other people know what's going on and how active the Senior Center is. So that's where we are right now. And I have to do some measuring and some ordering from the labs. And pretty soon that'll be done. And it kind of looks like I'll hopefully be delivering maybe the whole product on Monday. Can't wait. And to your point about like marketing messages, Gene, so I had tried to coordinate, but unfortunately my first date didn't work out. But if Tuesday, September 26 at 1030 works for people, I can be a little flexible on Tuesday. I think it would be a really wonderful idea to have everybody on the COA and as many members of the Friends Group join us at the Bank Center so that I can talk about some of the statistics, some of the things that we're working on, what are some good phrases to use when you're talking to people? Anybody representing the COA should be able to do just a quick elevator speech with your eyes closed about what are the key facts that we have going on? How many people are we surveying? What are some of the big issues right now nationally, locally with older adults? So if people are able to join me 1030 on Tuesday, the 26th, or if not, let me know. Maybe we can just do like a separate meeting. I can't. Good for me. Well, I see you on Monday. You can talk. And Jacqueline, if you want to come by another time, I'd be happy to do that too. Because I think it's really important. We should all be using the same phrases. We should all use the same vernacular. We want to be consistent so that when people hear about us, they think, oh, wow, they've got it together. They know what they're talking about. They're really diligent. They're always showing up at meetings and being very vocal. It'll just help us accomplish what we're trying to accomplish, not just raise the profile, but do it in a way that we can actually get some benefit from it. I wonder, do you think it would be beneficial when all of that is compiled to create, I'm going to say a cheat sheet? Yes. People should take notes and do a cheat sheet. I would honestly like to see, too, if people do want to come on that Tuesday, write what you think is good. I actually find when I'm doing marketing editing or just any kind of editing, if you bring me something, it's a lot easier to understand how you write, how you communicate with the world. So if you have something, that quick elevator speech, bring it, and I think we can all talk about it. Because my goal is just to get us all on the same page so that if it's you showing up, Jean, at an event, or if it's Mark, the same information is getting communicated to the town. So I have an idea, as I've been known to have. Yes. And that is if for whoever kind of nails this first, could we videotape them? If they want to be videotaped, I won't force the one to do that, but it would be good to put up, you know, or just to have. Or even if you want to be our, you know, poster child. I would be happy to be the poster child. Well, I think some other people should share the limelight. Maybe useful for folks to hear. I mean, it's more than the words, right? If you're going to be effective in delivery and your tone and your body language. Public speaking is an arts. So, yeah. And you have to be able to get up in front of a, well, not always a huge crowd, but like a crowd. So if it's one person, if it's two people, you know, but we just want to be a little bit more consistent and a little bit more focused. Because sometimes I have the feeling that, you know, not everybody knows we have this amount of exercise programs, or that we have a social work support group for people whose partners have memory loss. And we don't always know all the things that we're doing. And that's step one. If we're going to advocate for more, we have to know what we already have before we can get additional resources. Okay. Everybody, polish your elevator pitches. Okay. We have some old minutes that we need to approve. So let's go back. The furthest is June. Last time we did not approve the June meeting minutes. Because there was something missing, I think, or something you added. And you added it, Terry. So yeah, you wanted me to add annual calendar, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that's been added. So is there a motion to move to approve the June COA meeting minutes? Almost. Second? Second. All right. All in favor? Any opposed? Okay. Wonderful. And then the July minutes, which were sent out. Does anybody have any corrections or questions about those? Nope. I move we approve the July minutes as written. Second. Okay. All in favor? All right. Any opposed? Okay. Excellent. All right. I don't have any topics not reasonably anticipated. Our next COA meeting is... The 19th. I had to move it because that week is the MCOA conference. So I will be in Danvers talking about all things council on aging. So for those folks, it'll be the third Thursday, not the second Thursday. Yeah. So if you would mark your calendars and we will have completed several large events by then that we can report on. I would just like to acknowledge we had some... We had the public safety event. Yeah. I forgot to mention that we had a couple hundred people show up and it was really nice. It was a really good event. So if you missed it, we had like Veracruzana as our food truck. We had a DJ. They had all the public safety vehicles. They had the safety trailer, which is just like a mini house that they have fake fires in. So as a kid, you learn duck and cover and go out the window. It was great. We had many town counselors show up. Paul Walkerman was there. It was a really fun day. We did car seat inspections. We had lots of information tables. We had the to go bag that Anne had worked on. There was just... Oh, canine demonstration. It was just really fun. It was a great day. And I just want to thank those of you that turned out to help us with the table. Really appreciated your efforts and hope others can join us in upcoming programs so we can share the wealth there. Because I think it's important that our community see all our different faces and hear from us. And I know some folks are challenged in terms of their schedule. But I think there's lots of ways that folks can contribute to the COA above and beyond the meeting. So I want to throw one idea out. And I think some of you already do this, but to join the newsletters of other communities so that we can kind of see what they're doing and glean any ideas. And that's a matter of subscribing online. So if you have computer issues, not a good choice for you, Chad. No, I can do that. Others, I think that would be beneficial for us. And talking to your friends and neighbors about the senior center, I think we need to... Our voices need to be heard, as we've been saying. And I feel like at this point, we're like a whisper in the community. And we need to turn the volume up. So we need to do it a wide variety of ways. And I think ideas you have are always going to be most welcome as to how we can be successful in making our case to the town that our seniors need more and deserve better. And we want to get a little more sophisticated in our lobbying efforts, I will say. And we can talk more about that at another time. But just want to put it out there. You need to start carrying the banner there. So Christina, you have a question? Oh, you're on mute. I need a quicker picker-upper, like a snack. I've been at this all day, meetings and... Anyway, I just basically want to say that I already do that no matter what. I'm on so many lists, it ain't funny. I am on the Northampton senior list. I am on the Amherst neighbors group list. I'm always looking at what others are doing. I'm always interested in what others are doing. And if you need a watchdog for what others are doing, I even suggested that we make our newsletter more visual in an earlier meeting. And like we use constant, I know I use constant contact for my communication with my church folks. And so there's ways of making something more appealing in a visual, audiovisual world. And so offhand, I will tell you that we don't offer enough art. And so this is one place that we can improve because I was looking high and low for art courses. And while I found some in other towns, I found none in our town. So I can work on that. That would be huge. Tell me what your expectations are. You want me to look and bring back the information and see what the ideas are. I can do that because I'm doing that anyway. Yeah, if you did that, and then also like if there are names, like if they're working with like such and such artists, somebody I can reach out to because that's one of the things I've been struggling with is just not knowing like who would offer that program. Wonderful. That'd be awesome. I went in person to the Northampton Senior Center and I sat there because when I have a doctor's appointment, I go sit there and I listen and I talk to people and I read everything on the bulletin boards and try to connect with other people. So there's a lot of ways to do it, you know, as long as I wear a mask, I'm good. Yeah, excellent. That would be great. Dawn? So that just reminded me. Thank you, Christina, for bringing that up. I had mentioned this before, but my daughter is an art teacher at Amherst High School and she's very interested in hooking up the students at the school with programs at the senior center. So students may be able to get to know and understand the population but also provide any kind of, you know, she doesn't know what you would like or need but can provide a lot of help and services with the students there for programs. And I guess my question is, who should she talk to? Should she talk directly to you, Hailey? Yeah, yeah. That'd be awesome. I'm sorry, I've forgotten about that. Talk about grants. Yeah, right. Good idea, right there. Yep, absolutely. Getting kids to write older folks memoir and so forth. Yep. Also to ideas. Yeah, there's all kinds of cool opportunities for intergenerational stuff. Yep. That's great. Excellent. I'll make sure to have her contacting. Thanks. Okay, all right. Anything else? Chad, do you have your hand up? Yeah, just a same old question. A lot of the boards are meeting in person. Is this ever going to meet in person again? Yeah, I'm just, I don't have a date for that yet, but it will happen. Covid's back so I have to wait and see. Yeah. It isn't just Covid, Chad, you know, I had five minutes to throw my trash out when I finished work before I got on this meeting. So, you know, for some of us, it's hard. If you want to have a meeting on a Wednesday, I could go in person sometimes, but not any other day of the week because I'm working two positions and I just couldn't do it. And today was a beautiful day. It would have been a beautiful day to be outside. You know? Yeah. I will say when it looks like we are going to go in person, it's my hope that we would certainly be able to give you all fair warning and kind of talk about what that would mean and how the meeting would happen, particularly out of respect for folks who have some health concerns. So, you know, my, my aim is that, you know, that won't be sprung upon you. Oh, by the way, next week's meeting is in person, but that will have some, you know, time to plan so that we can, you know, be comfortable. Terry was saying something, and then I heard you say something about Covid, but I was Covid's back. A lot of people have Covid, so you just have to be careful. Is on the upsurge. Yep. So, I know this is a slight segue, but Hailey, it's my understanding that our health department will not be doing clinics for the public. I don't know that. I actually have not kept my finger on that pulse. Um, I mean, obviously they don't have a director yet. She doesn't start until I think October, so that might be part of the delay or maybe postponing. I don't know. Yeah. I mentioned, asked one of the folks, I don't even know what their position was, and I know that they work somewhere in there. I don't know exactly what they do, but they said because it's no longer an emergency. Oh, did you say flu or Covid? Covid. Yeah. That's possible, since we're not in the state of emergency. Again, I don't know for sure, because I haven't asked anyone, but it is possible since the state of emergency was lifted that they will just use like, you know, your primary care or something like CVS. Yeah, or CVS. Okay. Very good. You know, because there's also like the storage issue with vaccines, you have to keep them at a certain temperature. And I think the Covid vaccine in particular was one where you had to be really like cautious about the temperature. Yeah. And we have to pay now for the test. I paid for one from Target and they're not easy to get. So they'll tell you if you go online how many are on the shelf. And I said there were four and I rushed and got that one so I can have it just in case. Can we not also still get tests from the health department right down the hallway? Yeah, I think they still have some test kits. Yeah, they were all out of them on Tuesday. Yeah, the thing now is that it's mutated enough that those aren't the right tests anymore. This is called Omicron 2 now that's coming. And the old tests are for the very first one. Covid. I feel like we're out of our area of expertise now. So perhaps we can check in with the public health department and offer an update next month. At the very least, we should have a health expert. And if the health department right now doesn't have a leader, they can contact someone. A physician or someone in this community that deals with infectious diseases and have them come and talk to people, whether on Zoom or whatever. I mean, Zoom would be the most convenient, you know. Yep. No, okay. All right. Well, I thank you all and I'm looking for a motion to adjourn. I saw a move. All right. All in favor? Aye. All right. Excellent. Thank you all. Have a wonderful evening, a great month, and see you at the block party. Take care. Have a good night, kids. Bye. Take care.