 Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. My name is Javier Bonilla. My name is Justin Liu, well from Production and Protection Division. Allow me to warmly welcome and thank you for participating in this site event, promoting on gardening practices for agro-diversity and nutrition. Before we start, please scan the QR code that is on the screen. You can also go to Slido.com and join our Q&A discussion. The code is garden. Thank you Javier. You can also see the QR code on the screen so you can scan it or you can enter the website with the hashtag garden. So we'll have a lot of questions, Q&As, and you can feel free to post your questions through Slido. So first of all, let's have a quick quiz through the Slido. Please open it. We have three quite simple questions. So during you are having the quiz with the Slido, we'll start by receiving the opening remarks from the Deputy Director from the Plant Production and Protection Division. And then we'll have two presentations with some demonstrations. The first one will be Together for Biodiversity, the Seed Bank and Gardening Practices by Chuck Lee Disseminy. And the second one, Small Space, Big Harvest, Urban Gardening Impulse by Scula Diverda. And after the trigger from those presentations, we'll have a discussion in the Q&A session. During the presentation, please feel free to post your questions on the Slido. We will answer it. And we will also, for some questions, we'll answer during the Q&A session. Thank you. Okay, so before we receive our presentations, allow me to recognize the presence of our Deputy Director, Mr. Cikulu Emba. Mr. Cikulu Emba has been working in the organization for 13 years, leading the Seeds and Plant Genetic Resources team of our division. Our Deputy Director is an honor to have you here and thank you so much. And now I would like to keenly invite you to officially open this site event. Mr. Deputy Director, the floor is yours. Thank you so very much. I have to confess to you all that I approach this task with some level of repetition. That is because I have three children who are young adults, like some of you, and they basically don't listen to me anymore. I think everything I say to them, they take with a pinch of salt, with some level of suspicion that I may not mean well for them. And so coming into a room filled with young people like you, so you can imagine that that sense of concern is even multiplied the more. And distinguished guests and participants, their colleagues, if you, the young people don't trust us, you have a right not to trust us because I think my generation and the generations that came before me, we are doing everything that we can to let you down. But I tell you that in foul, it is a bit different. In foul, we think differently. And let me just start, and I hope you recognize that I speak from the heart. So let me start by reminding us that in spite of the fanfare, the carnival type of environment that we have inside this room, which we have been experiencing since the beginning of the week, we actually have serious problems. We actually have serious problems as a civilization that in spite of all the advancements that we have made, as we speak, as we gather here, one out of every 10 persons will go to bed hungry tonight. And that is globally going near a home to Sub-Saharan Africa, where I come from, is actually one out of every five persons who abide the unconscionable scourge of hunger and malnutrition in the 21st century. And we admit this commitment that we will abolish hunger and malnutrition in all its forms and wherever they are called by 2030. We see this harvest. How many more harvests do we have before 2030? Just about seven, about seven harvests. Yet, my dear good friends, hunger and malnutrition has been getting worse. It has been getting worse for maybe five, six, seven years now. And I don't want to dampen your morale by reeling out these dire statistics. It's just for us to underscore how important it is for us to take whatever vocation that we have in this regard quite seriously. As we do in FAO, the director general, the senior leadership, and all of us, we don't think that it should be all doom and gloom. We can actually, with the knowledge, with the skills, with everything that is available to us, we can abolish hunger and malnutrition in the next seven years. However, however, and there is a caveat here, things will have to be done differently. As the director general says, business as usual is not an option. And that is what the FAO strategic framework seeks to do, to transform agri-food systems to become more efficient, inclusive, sustainable, leaving no one behind, using these four aspirational betas, better production, better nutrition, better environment, and better life. And we, in the plant production and protection division, considering that 80% of all food are plant-based, we recognize that we will play the most critical role for the better production, which is just about producing more with less. So our mantra in the division is optimization and minimization. Optimize all the good things about sustainable crop production, enhanced productivity, nutritional food, while minimizing all the negative aspects, the deleterious environmental footprints of our production systems. And everyone has a role to play, including you, the youth. And that is why what we are doing today is critically important that we demonstrate that even if we are all living in all-band settings, in peri-all-band settings, we all can contribute to producing significantly more nutritious food to feed everyone. And that is why I find this event gratifying. I thank all the organizers. I realize we have speakers from Checatori, the Semi, and Scuola, the Verde. And I think you have probably heard enough from one of the people creating problems on Planet Earth, and I will see the stage seriously and sit back and listen to the youth. Take center stage and advise us as to how we all could just by having our little gardens contribute to this quest of being that generation that finally abolishes hunger and malnutrition. And I thank you all so, so very much. Thank you, Deputy Director. Thank you for sharing your experience and also the facts, and also highlighting the importance of the role of diversity and individual meaningful actions in addressing agroful system challenges. And now we have the answers from the quiz. We can see from the screen that we are happy to see most of our participants are from Rome, so in the German room we're happy to see you here. And then the next question the next answer is, we can see, in fact, more than 50% of our participants who have your own home gardens, and also there are around 45, 44% of participants you don't have it today is a great opportunity for you to start your home gardens. And the last, we are surprisingly to see that the tomatoes is your favorite. So perhaps you can see you can find some tomatoes here. If you're not like we'll see in the presentations. So let's welcome our first speaker from Czechoslovakia. Czechoslovakia is an Italian nonprofit association. They are committed to the rescue and preservation of rare varieties from Italy and the world. For a few years now, they have been promoting various projects that involves professional farmers and children in both commercial and self production activities. Through those activities, they prompt the public to discover the importance of biodiversity and sustainability in today's agricultural world. Now the aperture and Sylvia, the floor is yours. Thank you. Hello everyone. I'm Sylvia. I'm a translator, and I work with share category the same. And what we do, as Yashin says, is we find a safe reproduce and distribute heirloom varieties that are in risk of this disappearance or in risk of genetic erosion. First, I want to bring us all into context. As I'm pretty sure you all know, biodiversity is all kinds of life we find in an area. So animals, vegetables, microorganisms and even fungi keep, build and keep the ecosystem together. And they are also the ones that maintain everything we need to survive, food, medicine and water. In this case, we're going to focus on a subcategory of biodiversity, which is agro biodiversity. That's what we do. This is the result from natural process of the earth, but also from decisions and in genuine, in genuine developments of farmers, herders and fishers over millennia. Our association was founded in 2015, and it is actually burned out of love of freedom because our president was, has always been an avid traveler. And the one common denominator he found in every places he visited was the social injustice and the unfair distribution of land, which leads to monoculture problems. And you will be wondering why, because whoever has the land decides what to cultivate. So there are complete islands where only one variety of rice is grown, which leads also to this problem we are having with genetic erosion. So, and we lead also to extreme poverty and lack of food independence. This happens because of governmental decisions and their partnering with big companies that are the ones that decide what people should grow and what products you should give your plants in order to have them thrive. Our goals are to achieve, help people achieve agricultural freedom, the production of this and distribution of reproducible heirloom seeds. The cultivation adapted to soil and changing weather conditions as extreme ones we are living now. And we keep doing research on local varieties at risk of genetic erosion and I don't mean local Italian only, but local to a place we have many Asian varieties, European and South American too. And the divulgation of techniques and practices to reproduce our own seeds that we do through free guides posted on our website that people can download and use for free. How do we do it. We have open days when people can come to the farm and ask for free seedlings and seeds. And that is our farm. And that's our greenhouse. And we also have a school project when during a window of the year teachers write to us asking for this project, and we send them for free. And first of all the instructions on how they should conduct the activity. The description of the varieties we send the seeds, and we usually choose seeds that are beautiful or interesting for children to look at. So that you see there, it's called a gem glass corn which is also actually called colorful and is far for children. We send them a mold, a wooden mold that they can use to create their own paper basis, which brings them also closer to recycling. And as multi pets plastic one to water their seats. So they feel like they're part of scientific scientific project, and it makes them feel like really interested and we bring them close to agriculture which are younger generations are maybe forgetting about. We also do lots of research. This is actually an isolated garden. We are working on dry farming. And whenever we finish this research we will pose the results for free. But the idea is that we get and varieties that are naturally resistant to extreme heat and to a low watering conditions. And this is actually one of our Mexican garden. There you see tomatillos and chili peppers. These varieties are grown isolated for three years in order to guarantee alien influences and to a certain their standards. So this is a way to remind farmers that there is a market for older varieties rather than the usual they are cultivating because for example in QCN chefs or cooks are on a high demand for new things with which they can make the recipes of their homes. And this is a war of migrants so everybody wants to taste a little bit of home when they are not there. Why is it important to cultivate at home? And I'm not telling that with a small garden you're going to be totally food independent, but it's a start. At least if you want a salad you don't have to go all the way to the supermarket every day. So these are some facts. But the main thing is that as farmers are presented with new more neutral varieties or more productive they are abandoning other ones. And that's why the genetic pool is getting smaller and smaller and we are losing plants and not only plants also cattle for example, about three or six breeds have been lost in recent times. So what can you cultivate at home? All sorts of vegetables, tomatoes, eggplants, lettuces, herbal plants, cucumbers and with some experience even melons. You just need the right varieties and the right actions at home in order to do it. This is actually a terrace and those are chili peppers that we cultivate there so you can grow them everywhere but our friends from Escola del Verde will tell you more about it. And how? Well this is a small guide we have prepared. You can download it with the QR code and it will guide you through cultivation, sowing, making your own compost, making your own pesticides and reproduce your own seeds. Thank you. Now our president is going to show you through a small tutorial on how to get your own seeds from your own plants. So, thank you. He is Pietro Segata, he's the president of our association. Today we'll see three different kinds of seeds that we can do at home. One of them is wet seeds that are still in their pulp. Another kind of seed that doesn't need any water in order to be harvested. And the third one, there's no need for any technique. We start with the tomatoes. So the most important thing is to get the tomatoes from the best plants. So we don't take only one but a few from the best plants in order to produce those seeds in order to avoid genetic erosion. The fruit must be overripened so you should get the ones that have been beyond mature. So these two tomatoes are the same variety but the first one is still a bit green and it's perfect to be eaten. The second one is perfect for seeds so it shouldn't be eaten. We're gonna use a technique that creates this mold you see on those seeds and that is germicide. So you will get a tray, open your tomatoes, the most mature ones. And just squeeze the pulp out of the fruit into the tray. Now you have the pulp, the vegetation water and the seeds on the tray. What you will do is leave it alone for a few days, three days in order to that mold to be created. Yeah but don't leave it too much because then they are gonna germinate by themselves. No more than three days and away from direct sunlight. After three days you just have to take your seeds, a strainer and wash your seeds by pushing them kindly against the strainer. To remove all of the vegetable remains. It's very important that your seeds are really clean. When your seeds are clean it means free of any pulp or juices. After you remove the mold you the seeds come completely clean then you put them on a tray. And then you place them in a fresh place but away from the direct sunlight for about 15 days. After two weeks you will get just dry seeds. So seeds that you do at home are not completely white like the ones you buy because those are treated with chemicals in order to avoid phytopathologies. Those are a bit furry when you touch them. After 15 days when you're sure your seeds are dry. You put them inside a glass jar and you just keep them dry. Humidity is the worst enemy of seeds. If you put them in your fridge they can last up to three years without losing much of their germination rates. Now we'll see other kinds of seeds that don't need any water. In this case it's peppers. Peppers and chili peppers don't need to be water after production. These are a particular pepper that comes from Latin America. It's called cubanele. You just cut the fruit and extract the seeds. Place them on a tray without adding any water without washing them. The same procedure with beans. After this you just put them to dry in a fresh place without any sunlight. For 15 days too. And the last seed you're gonna see. You can do it yourself because those are cotton seeds. You can find them inside the fruit. They can be extracted from their own flower. And they can be kept in their own flower and then be sown the following year. You can see other kind of seeds that don't need any water and are a bit rarer. That is amaranth. It's a pseudo cereal, particularly resistant. And it is famous because it is immune to roundup. The seeds stay attached to the plant for a long time. So it is easy even for beginners. It's easy to get the seeds. So with this one once you harvest it you just need to move it and then you'll get the seeds. They can be eaten and they can also be sown. This is a particular variety for dying. It's called amaranth red opi. From the opi people in the United States. They have sent a few varieties to us. That is a desert watermelon. Using dry farming in our research. This is also an opi sunflower. It's also for dying. It's called opi black dye. Some flowers are also as the captain and as the amaranth. You just need to take them and then keep them, maintain them away from sunlight. The conservation depends on two things. How you keep them, how you preserve them. And of the skin of the seed. The amaranth is very small. So it lasts less time. Whereas the sunflower, the seed is bigger, thicker. It can be kept even for up to 10 years without issues. Thank you. Thank you so much. Pietro and Silvia. Here are our next session. We are going to have two quick questions on Slido. You can scan the QR code that is on that screen. Or you can go directly to slido.com. And one question is how much time are you willing to dedicate to your terrace garden. And the second one is what challenges do you anticipate in creating a terrace garden. We are going to discuss the answers at the end of this side event. And now our second presentation is a small space, big harvest, urban gardening in pots. Let me share my screen with the presentation. Our speakers are Mrs. Gaia Sadra, director and founder of Escola del Verde, and Francesco Cicchetti, landscape architecture of Escola del Verde. Escola del Verde has been collaborating with the Botanical Garden Museum of Rome and the Department of Biology of Las Apienza University on educational projects about gardening in favor of biodiversity. So Mrs. Gaia, Mr. Francesco, the floor is yours. So wait two minutes more, please. I'm meant to take this. I want to remember one thing. You can go to Slido and also ask questions. At the end, we are going to discuss it. Thank you. Good afternoon to everybody. Thank you for being here. Thank you for inviting us. Our school was born a few years ago as an answer to a gathering that we organize every year in April, beginning of April. Is it all? Yes. Can you hear me? Okay. Which is called, it's a Greenland Landscape Festival and it's dedicated to people, especially, I mean we are, it's in Rome, so we talk about big cities, which is, you know, a big opportunity but can become a big problem if we don't take care of it properly. People asked us, where can I learn how to do this or that? Where can I follow classes? And strangely enough, there wasn't a place in Rome, so we decided to open it. And we cooperate with Botanical Garden in Rome and today we're here to show you how to start vegetable garden in a pot, which is what we normally can do in a big city. Just few of us can be lucky enough to have even a small garden. Pots have their rules but this doesn't stop us to be able to harvest our own vegetables. There are just a few things. The first thing maybe is that it's a garden and it gives vegetables but it's a garden. So it's good for us, for pollinators, for the whole planet. So every action is an important action. And another thing is that gardening is a pleasure, not a stress, so garden as you live. Take your time, don't ask too much to yourself. I can't, I'm not good enough, my eyes are not good enough to see the result of the questions. But time is always an important factor and you shouldn't be stressed or disappointed by the result of your gardening. It's often not your fault. It can depend on many things, also simply on the plants you start with. But we have Francesco here with us, which can take us through the whole process of where to start from and while we go through the process we can explain what's happening. So, I am Francesco, Francesco Cicchetti, I'm a landscape architect and I work with the Scholar del Verde as an educator. And I like to work with them because we discover together that education sometimes is more about relationship than actual notions. And we find that gardens can enable people to create new relationship, new relations, not only with culture and cultivation but also with other people. So please, bear in mind this, that this can be a point to enable you to maybe start your home garden. But then don't stop to what you see here, don't get maybe panicked for how I will water my plants when I'm away. But try to use your garden as a tool to know more people, also like Cercatori di Semi, to get more knowledge and more information and more things to do with other people. Because if you do a garden like this one is a very small garden but it is a part of a network, an ecological network. And maybe some small bird can come on your balcony or your terrace and it can change the ecological networks in your neighborhood. So we will start with a box, this box is closed, it doesn't have any hold. We chose to use this because sometimes it's the only thing you have, maybe for construction, from a construction site or from something else. And maybe you want to start a garden and you don't have a proper plant for garden. So we start with the most difficult one so that you can be a bit less confused. If you have a planter, a normal planter, the only thing that changes maybe is to have like a trail to put under it so that you don't lose too much water. So the first thing to do, you could even make holes. You can also make holes of course. So one of the main problems with container gardening, with gardening in general, is water of course. There can be too little water and too much water. Also when we do our indoor plant courses, we know that maybe the majority of the problems with plants in our homes are too much water, too much humidity. Because this plant is not very well, what I'm going to do, I'm going to water it. And they cannot escape this watering so we are torturing them. One solution is debatable, it's debated, it's one of the thousands of techniques that you can use. A way that you can use is to put a substance that allows water to not be clogged, plants to not be clogged with water and to drain. So if you don't have holes, you can use something like that. This is perlite and it's a volcanic stone. And it's very, very, very light, it feels a bit like plastic, it is not. And it can host up to four times its weight in water. So we will start by putting perlite here. But this is not enough, it makes a lot of dust, sorry. So the weight is important also when we talk about balconies and terraces? Yes, it's important because sometimes you have a balcony and you risk to have too much weight on the structure. So it's difficult not to. So let's say this is enough, okay? So you, generally speaking, soil doesn't move by itself. So if you put it like this, it will stay like this. You can put like a middle, like how do you say that? Mulch, like some mulch here to have organic matter. This is a mineral so it doesn't have any organic matter. You could cultivate potentially any plants in it by adding some fertilizer, organic matter. But it's used, it's actually used for example for cuttings for reproducing plants. It's just one of the many materials. You can use, for example, coconut fiber. It's a controversial material because it can have social, it can produce social impacts on the population where coconut, cork, it's worked. But know that for the first, as a first thing, we will have a high graphil material here on the, how do you say, fondo? On the bottom, thank you. So after that we will go with soil. This is quite heavy. I help you. Yes. No, help me. So what do you want to do with different soils like land, land and plants? Close to where we live. So one of the problems with our garden soil, there can be many problems with garden soils. For example, it can be polluted. It can be quite heavy. It can be poor in organic matter. I would talk as an experience, often gardens in our homes do not receive any organic matter for like 30 years. And then someone will come to me and say, oh, my plants are dying. Yes. Because it's true that, it's true that, for example, if I put a plant in a, in a garden, in a plant, in a, in a container, in a planter, this plant will be separated from her environment, from soil. So for example, water will, will end more rapidly for evaporation, transpiration, and the plant will suck the water for, for nutrition. But at the same time, if a plant is in soil, in, in, in a real garden, let's say in a complete garden, plants can be educated to go look for, for water, deeper and, and further. We can do that in, in a container garden. At the same time, a garden can be really, really poor, can become really poor with, with the years. So, if we start to, as we said before, talk with people that have gardens that produce gardens and seeds and organic products and products. And we start to use our garden as a, let's say, a poem, an artwork. And you start interacting with people who do that. You can start asking for questions. So maybe you just have, at the moment, a container filled with soil. And this soil is used just to put plants. I don't know which plants I'm going to put. Maybe I don't know anyone. I don't know where to buy them. I don't have any, any network at the moment. So I will start with plants that maybe a small, a small agriculture cultivate near, near, near me. But this plant will be the start of, of a practice. So there are a lot of brassica here. And this is not about the plants here where we are. It's autumn in other parts of the world. It's not so imaging that you're cultivating what, what you need and what you can, what, what you can find in your area. Yeah. So follow the season and be local as much as possible. Also, because if they're locally grown and naturally grown, they have many more chances to grow as you wish and you will harvest more and more happily. More, more, more happily. You can reproduce plants and seeds as it was shown before by Cercatori di Semi. So the idea is that maybe you can just start planting the plants and, and then starting to, to ask yourself what I want to do with these plants. Because, for example, it's not really easy to, to, to give something to it every day for months from a small terrace garden. But at the same time, if I start that process of, of having a relationship with a network of people. Maybe I will do, I will produce some salad, another one will produce some tomatoes, another one will produce some cabbage. And this can start a small act of resistance and, and, and revolution, I would say. So let's imagine that. So it's, now you're putting these broccoli in, which have a height and a dimension. So what, what should I think of when I choose what to put in my pot? So, for example, this container is quite high. Let's say that for, let's not talk about food gardening. Let's talk about gardening in general. I have a terrace. I want to put a small tree on my terrace. Even if I, if I know it's a bit difficult for a plant to grow on a terrace because there is a lot of sun and everything. But let's say that if you have a 60 centimeter deep container, most of the plants will have enough room and space for, for their roots to develop. Of course, the more you plant, the more plant you use, the more varieties and species of plants you use, the more you will be able to understand how much space they will get. There are some, there are some cabbages, as you may know, that are much bigger than this container and become like this. So for example, someone will want to plant, to try and plant a small fruit tree in their container with some herbs or, or vegetables around them. But please consider always that a small garden, it's a harsh environment for, for plants because you need to feed them with fertilizers with compost. And, and the more you start to questioning yourself about how, how do I do that? How do I resolve this problem? For example, I need to use fertilizer. I don't know how to do that. So I will look for people who know how to do that or sources, trusted sources from maybe from the FAO website or technicians that I know, educators in my area or where available, film school also and agriculture. So starting to plant these plants, I will know how much space they will need because it's not just the space in the planter is the space in your house in your garden, of course, or your terrace. So the first thing to do for having a good and nice garden is to think to sit a bit in your, in your garden. And to, and to wonder how can you use that space to study to observe the light in your, in your, in your terrace. Because maybe you have to move your plants, maybe there's just a spot on, on your terrace that gets a lot of sun. So another thing, when watering, it's under the table. Two useful things. When you're watering with these, be careful not to drop all the water. All at once, because as you see, soil is quite, it's very soft. So it will be, it will get moved and use water more than your fingers to press it to not create like air bubbles and clogs and uneven surface of the water. And you will see by putting water that probably you will have to add more soil to replenish that because it will go down. Another thing that you can do is to use a sprinkler. And now this, it's closed, of course. So a sprinkler, please buy one, use one also for your indoor plants, more than watering every day. It's, imagine you're a plant, you like humidity in the air, maybe sometimes more in the air than in the, in the soil. And you get a shower, you get, you get water, you get teardrops from, from the sprinkler. It's better than getting like drowned in water every day. And another thing, this is a quite old technique called Olla. So you, you will have to use a terracotta pot. And you see it as a hole in it. And with a cork, you can close it a bit. So why terracotta, because terracotta can, can transmit humidity into the soil. So let's see now it's not, I will just, so you can see it, right. You won't see the water inside the pot, but you will know there's some water. So if I put some water in it, and then I close it just to prevent from stuff from going down, I will have a source of humidity in the, in my, in my container. So that, that can maybe be an answer for the worry about I will be away while my home garden will stay without anyone watering him. We haven't said anything about pests and diseases, but... Do you want to say something? But it's always a worry. Pests and diseases are a worry. We don't want to tell you what to do in every situation because we can't. And every house has sometimes problems that are peculiar to, to a region or to a place. Please don't just listen to hearsay, but if you, if you get into a network, into a relationship with people working and loving gardening, you will be able to find sources or so on the FAO website to, to understand how much some pests or diseases are present in your area and what are the possible solution for that problem and solution that can be ecologically friendly and mindful of, of our environment. Thank you very much. Thank you guys and Francesco. That's fantastic presentation demonstration. And from the quiz you just built, like we can see most of us, we would like to have our own home gardens, but we are afraid of being away for long. I think the demonstration will answer our questions. And so here, like I would like, given the limited time, like I would like to ask if anyone want to have the questions now, we will have two questions here. And for the rest, please feel free to post your questions in Slido. We'll have our technical officers answer the questions for you. And also we'll invite Chuckle DeSemi and School of the Better to answer the questions. So if you would like to have the questions now, please raise your hand and let us know. Please. First of all, thank you for your presentation. I have a question for for the last team that just presented. And let's suppose we live in a very humid place like an island or, you know, Venice, for example. Let's suppose this. How can we understand how much water our plants need? Because if the place is very humid, sometimes it's difficult to understand if we need to water our plants every two days or every once a week, for example. Thank you. They probably get daily showers. So that's something you don't have to worry about. And you surely don't have to water as much, of course, as a dry place. But this is a bit also because there's no rule, you know, because this is the typical question that people worry very much about watering. How many times a week? It depends, unfortunately, on the place and on the plant. So but observing what you're growing, you will see if they ask for something. As Francesco said, it's not necessarily water. In general, try to keep back from too much watering because just have a look if it's not said that what the plant is asking for is water. But you see it immediately. If you give a bit of water, she, you know, flourishes, she pulls up its leaves and it responds immediately. Thank you. The soil should be moist but not completely wet, not completely dry. And you can see from the leaves, the leaves are down like our plants here because we brought them on Sunday for another exposition. Right now they haven't been watered and you can see the leaves probably some fall from that chili pepper. They're down because she needs water. Thank you very much. Okay, the last question is a lady has raised her hand for long. So perhaps we either leave the last question to her. Can you all hear me? Hi. Well, first of all, thank you for both of your presentations. It's what it was very enlightening. And first I would like to share my experience as an urban gardener. I've lived in a city which allowed me to not to have my own garden at home, but I was with a community of other students having my own garden. We were having our garden and taking care of it throughout the year. So, to me, that experience was very nice and it was during lockdown. So it was also a way to come together and to learn about plants. We had some experienced members and we had some new members. So my question to you would be like, do you know if there is any map or like way to map within cities, urban gardens, in case someone does not have a terrace and would like to share this with other people. Thank you. Yes. On the website of the community Roma, there is a map of vegetable gardens gardens with community run by communities that you can join. I would like to add also. I would like to add also that if a has a community of practices in farm and field schools, and also in green cities, and there you can see also an exchange from people all over the world. So, maybe we would like to invite you also to join those community of practices that you can find a thank you. Okay, we'll give the last last question quick question to this gentleman. No, it's not the owner question, but I want to say something more to convince you to do that good practice if you have a garden of a terrace in our real estate economy, European Union is the more cheap way that you have to develop the value of your states. Thank you so much for our speakers. In closing, please allow me to invite Mr. Heiko Kim, technical advisor of plant production and protection division to give the closing remarks. Thank you. We are running behind out of time, so I'll be brief, but I'll give you some practical also ways to follow up. So, thank you very much for all the speakers demonstration that we had. It's, I think, as you can see, we have 100% of satisfaction. I think not many people have been there, but let's, let's give all our speakers and people who demonstrated a big round of applause. And as well as all the ones who are behind and I'll follow up on that we represent the plant production and protection division of FAO. And here I think many of my colleagues are here, you can raise raise the hand your hand. So those are the people that normally you should be able to get some answers if you have any question on growing things on your garden or in bigger scale. So that's the work that we promote at the division. We are different areas of plant production and protection and the deputy director general. I already, I'm already promoting now direct deputy director to highest level, but the deputy director of the division has opened with kindly with this. I asked the colleagues from the secretory the semi whether some of the seeds could be available for you to take away only if you are in Rome or in Italy you can't take it outside of the country for regulatory reasons. So you can always come. I think same thing for school I did Verdi if there is possibility to pick up things if there is anything to some, some soil or saw this. So that's that's my offer to you to conclude. I'll give some last thoughts to our deputy director. He took the time to assist all this event. In general, there is busy schedule, but this is also appreciated. I'll give you the last words and don't hesitate to take the picture or connect on Slido our experts are available to answer any of the remaining question that you could have or guide you to the relevant people who can answer your question. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. I share your sentiments completely. But something that occurred to me, I was taking notes. I have learned to listen to the young people and of everything that was discussed here. The only thing we don't treat as a subject matter in the plant production and protection division is land tenure. Every other thing the seems like a microcosm of our work. So I had about the narrow genetic base of the of the crops on which we rely on for food. Actually, I think about six staple crops on nine account for maybe 60% of all our dietary and dietary calories. And yes, this is one way to address it. But regarding the main components of the presentations and demonstrations is almost like it is our division because you started with the seeds. The seeds. We have the seeds and plant genetic resources unit. Then you talked about the cultivation. How do we grow these crops? We have two teams that look at the good agricultural practices, the agronomics, and then also the plant protection. So basically the three pillars of our division. What do you plant? How do you, how do you plant them? And how do you protect them? So we are not doing too badly after all. And we talk about the one dynamic, the one dynamic NSP and a recurring theme that I had about is the human network so that we, the connections we build also constitute part of the ecosystem. So this has been for me a most enriching experience. And I thank all the, all the experts who spoke with us. I commend you for your tourism for the good work that you're doing. And then also the young people for being such a wonderful audience. Thank you all very much. Thank you. So throughout the week, those who are interested to hear more, you can come anytime on the B building, seven floor. There is a corridor around the building, office 7540. That's the director's office and you'll see many of the face around here. So we're happy to connect and provide coffee. You heard that it run out before we started. So if you have a need of coffee to follow up throughout the week, please back, back. You will see some of these faces here and we'll be happy to further interact with you. Thank you. Thank you all for participating. Now we reach the end. Thank you very much for participation. Thank you. Wish you a good day and the beginning of your home gardens. Bye.