 I think number one, Bums are easier to control. Yes. Women nowadays, since y'all are becoming men, you really like control. Yeah. But number two, and I think this is what's more important, and I think it's what's more vital is that Bums don't demand as much from you. Mm-hmm. That's, yeah. So you are the best thing that ever happened to him versus a, like me, like. I don't really need you. Listen, it's the message right here. Black boy, tell me how you really feel. Because I just want to build with you. Black girl, tell me how you really feel. I want to keep it real with you. I want to live better, eat better. I want to love better, sleep better. Yeah, I want to feel so aligned. I feel like I'm overwhelmed. Nah, the reason I appreciate you is you're saying a lot of the things men have suspected. But we haven't necessarily had a woman just say it out right, and you know what, oh, I actually want this. Or at least I don't really want this right now. I want the benefits, but not necessarily the responsibilities, you know, the whole nine. So, OK, let's talk about Mr. R.I.P. Kevin Samuels. OK. R.I.P. Kevin Samuels. What are your thoughts on his message, what comes to mind? I saw your eyes wrong. But what comes to mind when you think about Kevin Samuels? What do you feel like he got right? What do you feel like he got wrong? I feel like he told a lot of truths sometimes. But women don't want to hear that. So I feel like he's a man. So only he can know how men feel about certain things. So I can't really disagree with everything he says, I cannot like it or whatever. But that's his take on, you know, how he feels about things. I don't really watch Kevin Samuels a lot. But I mean, there's nothing that I just disagree with. Why the eye roll? Give me, because I feel like he degrades women sometimes. There we go, there we go, there we go. It makes them feel lower than how they feel about themselves. And I feel like there's a way of communicating, which everyone knows that there's a way of saying things always. Let me ask you this. God forbid, but you go to the hospital and you go see a. I forgot what the technical term is, but the people who specialize in cancer oncologist, you go see an oncologist and they tell you, listen, you have ovarian cancer. Is he making you feel less than you feel about yourself? Or is he just telling you the problem? Emotionally, yes. When he goes on live and says the thing about this. No, no, no, we're talking about the oncologist. Who just told you you have cancer. Is he making you feel less about yourself? No, because he's a doctor and this is medical stuff we're talking about here. This isn't Kevin Samuels telling me that I have cancer. But that was his approach. That's my problem with him. He thinks he knows women too much. But that's not what he was saying. Kevin Samuels was an image consultant. So similar to a doctor would tell you your diagnosis and your prognosis. His job was to look at you, take you in and give you back what you are. So this is how you look to other people. This is where you can tweak it. Or you have big titties, show that more. Wear skirts to hide the fact that you don't have an ass or vice versa. So that's what these colors are flattering on your skin tone. These colors are not. So when you have women coming into his show at the time and they were saying, OK, Kevin, I want this kind of man. All he was telling them was. You're not going to attract that kind of man. That's fine. So similar to a doctor, he was telling them the truth. Yes, that's what I said when you first brought him up. I said, it's not like I disagree with everything he was saying. But quite naturally, in reality, he did make people feel bad. Because hearing that, that woman may not understand how to process that. That woman may not be able to take constructive criticism. So and that's not his fault. That's not anybody's fault, but hers. But I mean, like I said, it's a way of saying things and a way of making people feel a certain way. Like it's not what you say. It's how you say it. I used to think that. You used to think that? I used to think that. It's very true. You don't think so? So I can just say, I don't know. This is why, right? I've never really related to that. Now that I'm sitting here thinking about it. Somebody in the comments, they called me the Mr. Rogers Kevin Samuels. They said that I'm saying the same shit, but I'm just nicer. And when I think about it, he was right. I kind of am saying the same shit. I'm just nicer. Now the thing is, in my experience, when I'm talking to women, if she doesn't want to receive what I'm saying, it don't matter if I'm saying that, motherfuckers. She's not going to receive it. Because it's not always, people say it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Well, sometimes who you are as well. Because I've also been in situations, and this is the shit that pisses me off, I've been in situations where I'm the most qualified person to give somebody a certain piece of advice. But because they don't view me that way, they would rather take advice, that same advice, or a lesser advice from a less qualified individual. So what black men are saying, too, is like, it's not about how you say it. Sometimes about who you are as well. So whereas in the real world, it's about are you qualified to speak on this, boom, boom, boom. Nowadays, it doesn't matter. Y'all are rather listening to people who are affirming what you already believe. Because nobody asks if Ricky Lake, or Oprah Winfrey, or Steve Harvey is married. Nobody asks that. Because, oh, he's reaffirming what I want to believe. So the differences men actually care about improving themselves. It seems like women only care about being exalted, being celebrated for being who she is. And it's to y'all's detriment. Because at the end of the day, you won't get what you claim you want. We do. Yeah, I do. We do. Explain. I mean, Mother's Day, Valentine's Day, Christmas. We celebrate it. So I mean, we get what we want. Because I mean, if you, I agree with you what you're saying. Like, sometimes it's just the person you are. And some people can't. I said that, though. Some people just can't take a strut to criticism. And that would mean you just need to work on yourself. Because if you can't take constructive criticism, how will you ever fix anything? It's probably going to be a lot of people comment on here that the way I talk is combative, or the way I pronounce things is crazy to them, because I'm country, or whatever the case may be. I could either decide to articulate and fix my speech and do what I need to do. Or I could just continue to do what I'm doing. But I feel like if you realize that that hinders you, then you should fix it. But if it doesn't hinder you, then, hey, do you boo? Well, see, the problem is y'all don't think anything hinders you. Oh yeah, a lot of stuff hinders us. Like what? And specifically, I'm talking about in the dating market, as far as attracting and keeping the type of man in relationship. I would say we worry a lot about sex. And we worry a lot about that that's all you guys want, when that's not even the case sometimes. That's not what those guys want. Right. And I feel like we immediately go to that, because women are very sexualized, and men aren't so much. So in our minds, we think that he's looking for a big ass. He's looking for a big titties. He's looking for what? He's looking for whatever. And I feel like we're sexualized already. So we feel like that's how all men look at us. And that's not the case. Some men just want company. Some men just want to have a conversation. Some men just fucking want to take a walk in the damn park. And I've met men like that, too, that don't like sex is not. Sex is almost on the back burner for them. It's not like a dire need. And I feel like women should realize that, too. Everything isn't about sex. He doesn't care how big your ass is. He doesn't. Trust me, I don't even have an ass. And I've talked to plenty of men that it doesn't matter. Some things are just not about sex. It's just not. And you know why women stop there? Because y'all don't know men. And it's easier to submit that test than to actually go study. Yeah. Because at the end of the day. Which is why I said is we need to have more conversations and be more open. But men also need to be more open. Because if we're feeling like this. That's why I'm doing this. Because the problem isn't that black women struggle to get a job. Y'all can get a job. Just fine. Resume is a good the whole night. Y'all motherfuckers can't keep a job or fuck damn. Your turnover is high. And when I'm looking at these things, you'll see women fumbling fantastic men for trivial reasons. And then you'll see women going and spending their time and getting traumatized by terrible men for trivial reasons. When you say we are fumbling a fantastic man. What is fantastic? Fantastic from my perspective is, to your point earlier, you said that women are literally risking their lives when they have a man's baby. I say that a lot. And I say that primarily in the perspective of, is this man worth risking your life for? Because essentially what you're doing is you're cloning somebody. Number one, is this a worthy person that the world needs more of? Right. And number two, is it worth your life? Right. Women aren't asking themselves that question. Y'all just think, oh, I'm just having fun. It's just perfect. Cute. It is serious for y'all. I could bullshit because my life is in a state. I'm pumping and I'm on my way if I was that type of dude. But women literally, you have to consider a little bit more. A lot. You see what I'm saying? But my biggest critique is y'all aren't being responsible in that way. You think it's sweet, but it's not. I totally agree with you. Y'all risking your lives for bums and making more bums. Yes, yes. It's becoming an epidemic at this point. Like, it is terrible. And I feel like us as women need to, but we say that. But then how do we get the dudes to not be bums? Like, there's no way that we can. You can't. So they need to do that by themselves, right? You can't turn a bum into a house husband. You can't turn McDonald's into Google. Yeah. All you can do is improve your resume. Right. I'm going to repeat that. You can't turn McDonald's into Google. All you can do is improve your resume. It don't matter how good you shine the frying machine or the baskets, you cannot turn it. So he has to want it for himself. Yes. So again, like. Vice versa, a woman has to want it for herself, too. But you know what? At some point, you got to sit back and realize maybe I shouldn't be dating right now. You know why women end up with bums based on my observation? Because they're a bum. No. Sometimes that's the case. No. Bums attract bums. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with that. I agree with that 1,000%. No, but I think it's more than that. I think number one, bums are easier to control. Yes. Women nowadays, since y'all are becoming men, you really like control. Yeah. But number two, and I think this is what's more important, and I think it's what's more vital, is that bums don't demand as much from you. Mm-hmm, that's, yeah. So you are the best thing that ever happened to him versus a nigga like me, like. I don't really need you. You feel what I'm saying? So you have to really bring something to my life. Yeah. The bum you being there, you are the table. Right. See, I don't want to be that. I'm not your table, boo. So yeah, you write about that. Whew, glad I'm not a bum. So what is a bum to you? Just like me. Man or woman? A woman. Yeah, that's a good question. You get in the seat. Yeah, no, I've been in the seat. A bum first and foremost is an irresponsible person. OK. Irresponsible with their time. Irresponsible with their, and when I say time, I mean literally like they're 24 hours. And then I also mean their time on Earth and a person who lacks foresight. Now, I take it a step further to understand that bums are typically traumatized people. Like even if we're considering like real bums on Skid Row, they usually have PTSD. Something going on, something happening in their lives. You know what I'm saying? They usually awful a bit. And that tends to be consistent with just the pookies and the ray rays. Because for me, I'm not the type of dude and dudes on this level, they're not the type of dude who is cleaning their house because a woman is coming over. Their house is just like that because that's how they function better. They like order, they like peace, whatever the case may be. So they have done those things for themselves first. They've created a certain ambiance, a certain lifestyle for themselves. Because doing it for you is sustainable. When you're doing it for somebody else, it's not. Right. So you have to want to do it for yourself first. Absolutely. Bums are irresponsible people. And they tend to be traumatized, and that's why I empathize. But I work in tech. I'm not a psychologist. I'm not a rehab center. I understand. But I mean, typically that is true, though. Usually people, I don't want to even say bombs anymore, because now it's getting to a sad thing. But people that don't really have their life together usually have something going on or that had something going on in their past that traumatized them or caused the mental issue with them or whatever the case may be. But there's always room to improve. You can't just feel like you have to stay in a rut forever. Because that just means you don't want anything better for yourself, really. I mean, the way I feel about it, I could have just stayed with my mom and not wanted a house or a car or anything or nothing. But I had to do those things for myself, not just so I can be attractive to a man, but so I can take care of myself. Bombs probably don't care about themselves. There we go. Why are women attracted to people who don't care about themselves? Because like you said, they can control them. They can definitely control them, especially when I've never been in this situation. Let's make that very clear. Not a bum fucker with her. But I've seen it. Like it's easy to control someone. I mean, logically think about it. It's easy to control someone who doesn't have anything. They have to drive your car to get the word. They have to use your water. They have to use your shower. They have to depend on you. Especially, well, maybe bums just need to be, I don't know, disciplined or something. But yeah, once that happens, it's just over with. Once you just lose that mindset, I guess, it's just over with. So what do you think about this whole divide between black women and black women, this whole conversation? And how do you think we can move closer to resolution and black love and all the good stuff that our black founding fathers had in mind for us? Just listening to understand each other and having those open conversations and just we need black men to be there more for black women and vice versa. We have to be there for each other for us to work on this planet together. And I feel like we can stop the divide by just being more open. And I feel like men need to be more open too and be willing to say, I'm not in the right headspace. Instead of just looking sad and expecting us to know what's going on, I feel like there just needs to be more openness. And maybe it won't be such a divide. How do you plan on raising your son? Oh, God. Well, because again, we don't want to create more of the men that we don't like. So what is the thing that you are very keen on? OK, he needs to understand this. He needs to understand that he has to love his self first and be able to relate his feelings in a way where people understand or people can at least help him. And I want him to have that support group. And I want him to grow up and know that I don't know. He doesn't have to suffer through things. But also, I want him to have that discipline, like I'm not going to do everything for you. That's not going to do everything for you. You have to want things for yourself. And that's just that. You can't be in this world because everybody's hungry. Everybody wants something. Everybody, it's not just money. Everybody wants something. And you have to want something for yourself to be something at least. Like, you can push somebody to go to college and do a bunch of stuff. I know college graduates that aren't doing anything right now because they don't have any support system, because they don't have anyone pushing them. They don't have anyone that's telling them, that's being real with them and saying, hey, you got to do something with your life, you know. So I feel like I'm going to try to be real with my son in this cutthroat world, but also not make him feel like he can't show his emotions. OK. Do you have any final thoughts, final words? Wait, have you learned anything? Have you curious about anything? Have you got questions? Black men, we love you. That's all I got to say. And we hope you love us too. Black men, black women, we love you also. And yeah, that's it. That's facts. That's facts.