 Welcome back after the break. Just before we went for a break, we started studying or looking at chapter 8, the citywide church. So we said the citywide church comprises of the local churches. Why is it important for the citywide church to come together and work together in unity oneness? Or why is it important for the local churches in the city to come together, partner with each other? Anand says it represents the unity in the body of Christ. Can you pass him the mic please? It shows people that we are all establishing one kingdom. We are here to establish one kingdom. What else? What happens when all the local churches come together? The citywide church is one. What happens? It is easy to reach out to people in the city with the gospel of Jesus Christ. Okay. Very important. Please say that in the mic so all of the students can hear. They may come a revival. Yes, they'll come a revival. Okay. What else happens? Online students, what happens when the citywide church is one and all the local churches come together in unity oneness? Kingdom of God will be advanced. The kingdom of God will be advanced. Okay. Online students, any answers can type it in the chat or you can unmute and speak. There will be greater harvest. There will be greater harvest. Okay. The whole city can, you know, we can reach out to the whole city and we can even disciple the whole city. The whole city can be transformed and changed. Okay. Not only in terms of accepting Christ, but also Yes, the moral sphere, the political sphere, very good. What else? There will be no crimes. Yes, we've seen that. Okay. So what can the, what are some of the things that the citywide church can do to, you know, when they come together in unity and oneness? Anthony says there'll be revival. Yes. Thank you. Just like you said, okay. Or before we answer that question, for the citywide church to be one, who needs to take the initiative? The pastors, the shepherds, the leaders. Okay. Why is it important for the leaders and the shepherds to take the initiative? Okay. They are the head of that certain local body. So if the head comes together, the body also comes together. Yes. If the head comes together, the body will also come together. If the head is disconnected, the body will also be disconnected. Okay. So for the leaders or the pastors or the shepherds in the city, for them to come together, what should they do? Okay. They come together. They also should have the same vision of one kingdom like this. Okay. There should be kingdom minded in the first place. Thank you. What else? They should not just know each other's names and what they do, which church they're pastoring. What do you think they should do? They should know the vision, listen to each other. Okay. Anand says they should be led by the Holy Spirit. They should come together to build a relationship of trust, respect, fellowship and sharing. Right. Okay. How can they go about doing that? Meeting regularly. Meeting regularly. Okay. So, you know, Pastor has written these books, Kingdom of God and Kingdom Builders. And he truly has a kingdom mindset. He truly sees APC as a church that is here to enhance and further the kingdom of God. So, he has taken some steps. You know what are some of the steps APC has taken? Yeah, the men's breakfast fellowship. Have you gone for that, Prince? Okay. Pastor started the men's, not men's, sorry. He started the pastor's, oh, you said men's breakfast? No. It's the pastor's fellowship, which is also breakfast, you know, gathering. So, he started something called once in a month on Wednesdays, it's called the pastor's fellowship. So, inviting pastors from all the churches in Bangalore City to come. We meet at eight o'clock and we start with worship and then one of the pastors lead in prayer for the city and the churches in the city and for the nation and the nations. And then we have breakfast together, get to know each other. I think there will be just one passage from scripture that we will take and we will all be in tables. So, in that table we'll discuss some truths about kingdom building and kingdom mindset and, you know, how we can further God's kingdom through unity and oneness and then we all share our points and then, you know, we close the meeting. I thought it was a very good initiative. We stopped, you know, when the pandemic began. So, that was one of the things and another thing which we had once was on 15th August was a Sunday. So, we had all the churches come together, you know, and worship and nobody was on the stage. So, nobody has given any preference, no pastors, everybody down together with all the other saints, other believers and there was worship. The worship had mix of various languages because there are people from different churches and temporary worship and also hymns because some of them coming from churches where they sing only hymns as well. And then, you know, it was not anything with doctrines or liturgy and all just, you know, we met together commonly on the faith that we believe in. So, it was just worship and then it was prayer for the city and for our nation and then somebody was to share the word of God and, you know, we all had holy communion together and it was a very beautiful time of gathering, no announcement, nothing, no anyone saying this pastor, this welcome, you know, that and all of those things just coming together and meeting and I think it's a wonderful initiative to do these things, to just partner and bring all of the churches together. So, what do you think the city-wide church can do towards city transformation? What can the city-wide church do for city transformation? The city, I mean, we can influence every zone of people and everyone, like actually through prayer, of course, then literally helping them with the word or... Discipling them. Every, all the people in the city and every area, every sphere of society, what is the different spheres in society we have? Social. Economic. Education. Political. Spiritual. What else? Very important, what gives the economy? Business, business and also social and also physical transformation, okay? So, two things that a city-wide church can do, okay, we can encourage partnership in things that are already being done, okay? And as a city-wide church, we can also start new initiatives. Now, how can we encourage partnership in the things that are already being done? What are some of the things that the local churches are already doing that all of them can come together, pool in their resources and, you know, come together so that we can transform the city? Any answers from our online students? Yeah, Nino Jones says we need to have regular meetings, yes, of pastors and, you know, the churches meeting together, yes. What should we do? How can we encourage partnership in things that are already being done in our city? Coming together as a local, as a city-wide church. Yes. Equipping kids, I mean, to educate the slum kids. Okay. Not only education, even food, everything. Helping them to come up from that situation. Okay, good. What else? Slum feeding the poor, slum outreach feeding the poor, equipping the marketplace, you know. Also, if, you know, many churches are doing this. What if we all pool in our resources and come and do it together? Huge and bigger and we can impact the whole city. Many can be benefited, right? What if, you know, local churches part and Christian organizations partner together. Suppose Christian organizations are here, Christian NGOs working in the prison, you know, taking care of prison children, building marriages, you know, all of these special ministries or the addiction centers. What if you all come together and pool in our resources? What will happen? Yeah, Nina says we can be very effective and we can impact the, you know, as Anand says we can impact the whole city. Jack and cells join together in evangelism, spreading the gospel to the unreached. The progress is more. Yes, we can reach the unreached in a great, you know, greater proportion in a greater manner. Okay. Also, if the richer churches come together and, you know, give, it helps the poorer churches, the smaller churches, right? And we can give in to them. They can have their own place or music instruments, you know, some churches own in our music instruments chair for people to sit. They just sit on the ground, you know, and things like that. Or we can even provide them fans. Okay. And also if the mature churches come together, we can actually what can they do better impart and equip and teach the newer churches and the smaller churches and equip the younger churches as well. Now, what are some of the challenges we can face when we do this? What are some of the challenges we face when we do this encourage partnership in things that are already being done? Huh? Difference is in between the pastors. Okay. What else? Like some pastors refuse to even take help because of fear. Like if I take help from them later, they will ask me to make my church a part of their church. Okay. Fear of losing their sheep. Okay. Sheep stealing. Okay. What else? It's happening. Yes. There's no loyalty, you know. Integrity will not be there. Honesty, integrity. What if some people are not kingdom minded? And you know, if some of them coming with their own IME mindset, you know, personal agendas, greed, it can be very devastating and can destroy the whole thing. Ah, Anand says if they're giving something, they're expecting something. Also we need to see that even if the local churches are coming together to partner their individual mission and vision is being achieved and fulfilled even as they partner. That means they are doing at the center of God's will what God wants them to do as a church. Now, what do you think can be the new initiatives that we can start? As a citywide church. New initiatives. What are some of the new initiatives? Anyone the online students? What are some of the new initiatives that can be done in partnership? Many churches and Christian ministries. Day out. Princess. What can be done? Volunteering to teach the word of God to people even though they are they are discipling you mean? Yeah. Discipling, okay. More like a little more. Okay. There is there but equipping them more. Equipping them more. Discipling them more. Okay. Conducting workshops. Okay. Conferences. Okay. We can schools. We can schools. More prayer. More prayer. Yeah. Prayer can you know what a force it can be when the churches come together and pray, right? That is what God wants. John chapter 17. Let them father let them be one as we are one for them unity is so important even as a Trinity works in perfect unity. What are some of the initiatives you know rescuing children. Traffic women. Abused women. You know, you know, teaching them having schools for the for these children, you know, boarding them, teaching them, giving them vocation, sending them into colleges. These women we can teach them and train them to some vocations which they can earn their own money, educate them. Okay. So some of these things are huge projects but what if the local churches come to gather? Okay. Rescuing people on the streets, the poor people, you know, like auto Rajas doing but there are so many people in auto Rajas home. What if other churches just partner and give and know what a great work we can do? Okay. What are some of the challenges we can face? Financial issues. Yes. There's no integrity. Sometimes. Yes. Also, the fear of passes that they will lose their congregation. They'll go away to other churches. Okay. So there should be clarity. The purpose is for us to come together to build God's kingdom to transform the city. What else? What else? Ask about the congregation if they come together and see, okay, the other church is better than us or the teaching is better. It's normal that they may go. Yes. It's normal that they go but they will, you know, if they belong to the church, they will be faithful to the church. But even if they even if they go, you know, the pastor should feel that they're going there to a place where they're receiving more in terms of spiritual food. So anyway, the kingdom of God is growing. So he should not feel the, you know, yeah, he should not feel insecure about it. So Pastor, if people will go like this, is that it should be, that is wrong. If people choose to, okay, I'm going to some church, they think, okay, when they come together, they'll see that, okay, the other church they have a better teaching or a better way of explaining the word of God. Some of them may feel that, okay, I need to better to move there. Is that wrong? It's not wrong. Why do I say it's not wrong? Because it's all about God's church. But then why pastors are thinking that way? That's because they're not kingdom minded. They're thinking about only their church as their kingdom. They're not thinking, okay, this person is going and, you know, being built up spiritually and they're going to anyway enhance the kingdom of God. They're going to come into their calling and their purpose and they're going to build and extend God's kingdom, let them go. And if God is taking them, God is going to bring people into my church, right? One source, other reaps, right? But ma'am, like to the other question of what Nina's is that if somebody is going from one church to another church, read from pastors, book from Kodaf on a pastor road, like if somebody is coming from their church to our church, this pastor also should not like since they come, we should not take them, but we should talk to them why they left the church. Yes, it's important to tell them like what is the issue and if it is things like re soluble, we try to make them go back and serve the faithful, but we should not take them immediately and keep with us, right? Yes, that is very important. Entry and exit, how you enter into somebody else's kingdom or sorry, somebody else's field and how you exit is very, very important for God. So even when they come to APC pastor meets with them and says why, it's the reason why you left the other church and if they want to become members of our church pastor says you have to give a letter to that to the other pastor or if they're part of our church in the staff, they should all part of another church, then they should also inform their pastor that they are part of, you know the staff of the church office here at APC. Yes, so some of those things as pastors we need to do so that you know there is no hurt between the pastors. Yeah, Nina, John says keeping in mind the current situation people of other faiths may be suspicious of the church's motives. Yes, in what context you're saying this Nina? Social work or you're talking about how other faiths would be suspicious. No, I mean this are you able to hear me? Yes, yes we are. No, what I'm saying is that I mean this need to reach the city that we're talking about reaching the city, so which would mean whether it is people in the slums or women or various things those kind of people who really need to be touched and you know need help in different ways. So when the church is coming together this way and wanting to help in the various areas I mean I don't know because I really don't know how it works and how often these meetings happen. So it's possible that they can kind of say okay no we rather not because of the general background that is there always when the church is doing anything in this region we always feel it is because we want to you know get them to share of our faith isn't it? I mean that is I thought a general this thing that is there the impression that is there in the minds of the people of other faiths that this is the agenda is this I mean I don't know some may receive help some may not I thought it could be a challenge I'm not sure. Yes, yes what you said is absolutely right can be a big challenge in the present church you know thinking that why are we doing all this coming together as a city by church is to make more converts converting people you know yes that can be a big challenge but if you go according to the government and the rules and the protocol that is there then you know there can be no issues but the mindset is all this but even if you see even if we come together there's hardly anything like that that is really being done this is something that you know we we've put it down for other people to think and we're teaching this so that other pastors can be kingdom minded can come to that place but the impact we can have is we can reach a far greater audience and also this the government will also acknowledge yes there's work done you know people are rich people are blessed you know children are educated rather than just looking at the aspect of you know children are coming to know the Lord Jesus Christ which is not like a major agenda but actually enhancing the social you know or empowering the government in you know transforming our city or in providing infrastructure in the city to these you know people with a lower stratum where things are not being done really the work can be acknowledged and when people are really getting their needs met they will they will really understand what is the motive behind why the churches are doing it they're doing it so that yeah my children are educated and you know they are getting their food clothing shelter they are learning manners they are going to become someone big they're not going to live like us in slums with no job and in the process if they are encountering all it's okay but they're able to see the larger framework in which we work but yes that is a challenge what you are saying is absolutely right yes so you know even like Karina John mentioned that we have to regularly meet worship together you know have outreaches have prayer times together you know prayer can be a very powerful weapon and tool in transforming our city okay also meeting together and celebrating the Lord's table can be a very powerful expression okay now we look at we look at the spiritual transformation how we can bring about spiritual transformation we looked at some of the social transformation also when the churches come together we can actually speak against the social evils what are some of the social evils we are facing in our city poverty yes drug abuse yes corruption yes oppression suicide you know can be another son what is another social act how can we work together as churches for social action for the city you know like we mentioned you know all of these poor providing for the poor the homeless orphans caring for the widows the less privileged how can we bring about transformation in the marketplace those of them in the marketplace like acknowledged or equipped actually to impact in the area okay they can be equipped to function as a kingdom works and they can bring in kingdom mentality kingdom culture kingdom lifestyle okay in the in the spheres of society what are seven spheres of society seven mountains family education business okay art and entertainment media okay government and religion yes so they can bring in God's kingdom God's culture God's lifestyle the kingdom culture kingdom lifestyle kingdom principles kingdom values and morals okay and also as believers were working in the business place they can work in integrity and honesty and excellence and they can bring about that remember one man Daniel was able to with his integrity and honesty bring about you know was able to make the king acknowledge that his God who is God is okay and also the people to acknowledge that the God of Daniel is a true and living God what is a physical transformation help the government in better roads better infrastructure water transport transportation taxes how the taxes can be used to build the infrastructure health hygiene okay good roads yes create how to create more jobs Francis you want to say something Francis yes okay and so how to also better homes for slum dwellers okay and what is the greatest thing that the city by church can come together against persecution right have one voice against persecution speak against persecution yes hold on my clothes social transformation so like I met with a lot of like rowdy groups and all so because of their party and hungry they get into the rowdyism and become gangsters and how to be share the kingdom of God you're not like that how to be animal but the thing is like they're not acceptable first it's a very huge work we need to do for them if we are saying okay we'll take care of us okay who are you very rude so how to be how to impact with them how to impact their lives think God is stirring your hearts towards gangsters like he stirred up the heart of that man who I don't remember his name who went to New York and you know many gangs in New York what is his name very famous man anyone knows his name Nikki Cruz and he you know he impacted Nikki Cruz's life and get his name and he had a very big organization forget his name somewhere in the nineteen sixties and seventies you know a great man who got just stirring of his heart burden for these gangsters in yeah he went to the United States in New York and you know and worked with these gangsters many gangs and many young boys and girls joined this gang into drugs and everything how he impacted their lives so powerfully and you know had a ministry over there and one of them is Nikki Cruz and he writes his book I've read Nikki Cruz's son book and so yeah David Wilkinson yes thank you Nina I was looking out yeah David Wilkinson thank you Nina I was waiting for you to answer that question anyway so yeah so you know he did such a great job and there was nobody was willing to go but young girls and boys the teenage years you know getting into gangs and destroying their lives but what an impact he had so he would just have crusades and meetings and you know just go on the streets in the night and talk to them it was dangerous so many times Nikki Cruz is also threatened he would kill them and they went into his meetings and had said bombs and you know disturbed everything but how God and Holy Spirit powerfully touched them and ministered so it's basically the work of the Holy Spirit you know will minister to them so you can partner with like-minded people and start that ministry Francis okay yeah good yeah I think it's David Wilkinson yes Jack in yes thank you okay thank you Jack in and Nina any questions on this lesson we have two more chapters to go any more any questions can you give him the mic please in marketplaces when we are talking about the marketplace transformation can you tell any few points like how to practically can do like there are so many challenges to do the ministry in marketplaces or to just be like a believer and not to I mean in any way go against the protocol that is there yes so any of you in the marketplace here online students know how we can bring about transformation in the marketplace any ideas I know people who are working in the corporates who start have started prayer fellowships they have a chapel in like here in you know the golf thing in what is it called the spark in the tech park and outer outer ring road that goes towards Kora Mangala you know there is embassy golf link it's called embassy golf link and there they have a chapel there okay so in the chapel day the Christians have started believers have started prayer and so many of them have come and many lives have been impacted when they have received answers for prayer some of them also meet outside in cafeterias you know they have their own groups and Bible studies in the cafeteria and one-on-one impact is happening and you know many of them are impacted because they're going through divorce they're going through marriage problems they're going through suicidal issues and you know so they invite them to church like when we have big Sundays and all many people invite their colleagues they also have their own like Bible studies you know among their colleagues and all of that they've started so these small ways they impact even give out some literature some books like some of our APC publications they just give it out and they have these four C's on their leadership things the four C's the yes the table thing that we have created you know that like the placard which you've created on the tables so just keep that and you know have minister to people I know one lady works in the corporate you know just a smile she has let people to Christ you know and just through her joy of the Lord people have asked her what is the great joy that you have always my name always happy and all that just let them to the joy of the Lord you know so she tells me and very simple lady working in the corporate you know in the admin field but just powerfully because she comes from non-Christian background and you know she has that so zealous to share the gospel with others some of these few things that can be done is there any particular topics to just start with like see when we go to villages and want to preach them to I mean to reach them is little easy like we can because they are uneducated the people who are in workplaces are very educated and we have to reason them when we are telling something so is there any particular topics or subjects we can start with we can start with yes we can start with like some of the topics in you know hope hope in hopelessness you know strength in times of adversity you know and what else how to overcome fear anxiety what is love everybody is looking for love you know acceptance respect what is love talking about love and going on to you know the God of love who loves us the way he loves us you know talking about character you know and talking about biblical examples of character like Daniel and Joseph basically how to give hope you know to people in their crisis in their situations in their difficulties and we have the God of hope lead them to that so these are the important things hope love yes okay anyone else wants to add to these questions please feel free online students like once I thought this started education things I guess it's written here marketplace so I started just not to earn money just like it was free coaching I used to teach people children only so what I used to do like first when I started that time I should take only 100 rupees money for one of our coaching then after that what I did I stopped because children their village they don't have that much money to pay so what I did I started just free coaching I should give then after that so little little they like increased and after that what I used to do like I used to share from Bible like stories how I should say like the Lord is my separate I don't mention any religion any things I don't usually mention so I just used to share about stories about things so sometimes what happens if children have anything like pain anything so I should come I'll pray for you so I used to pray for them so they should go in their home they should tell mom he did something like this something like this so like that I do three families they started believe on Jesus Christ like how you did this how you did how you did healed them can you pray for me also I have these things I have this problem I have this problem so like that that place I started church in that place only how 10 people and 15 people I that place only I started because of education and after that 200 people I used to teach 200 children's only and after that I started education like like who people they are not educated little little so like how I ministered through that things amazing yes in the marketplace very good I know one of my relatives who live in Chennai you know she's a banker and she took voluntary retirement and she used to teach all the slum the sweepers children the maids children all come there to her house about 50 60 they'll come there they'll play for some time she has a big compound they'll be playing then they'll all get ready and they'll all sing some gospel songs and she'll share one story and then she'll teach them you know they'll do they're going to school so they'll help them in the homework and all and then they'll go away and then you know some of them have gone into finishing that 10th grade and to college and they've got some nice jobs they still come and thank her just showing the love of Christ in a very simple way and I used to really admire her she used to have three or four flasks she'll keep it out in her veranda on the parapet that she has built near her doorstep and the flask and you know sugar and glasses so all the sweepers and the maids and cleaners in that area will come to our house and they'll have tea from you know hot tea and I remember and I went to a house one of them said mama the tea is over and she said wait wait I'll make for you and she made another whole flask and kept it there you know just such a heart in just small way showing the love of Jesus to people okay yes yeah so social transfer marketplace he gave you some ideas on what we can do also just prayer and allowing the ministering you know yeah yes prince one example also wanna share like for me I feel like in marketplace and business place it's how we live actually how we carry the kingdom of God affects more one example like when we used to work I used to work for my brother's cafe so we used to keep this Bible verses like in the inside of the walls like even sometimes the little word just hope don't give up and all this and we used to keep Bible verses and they used to like minister to them even if they are non believers but when they read some scriptures they get encouraged and we heard testimonies and one more is like we used to go and talk to them our mom our brother my brother's main motive is like to spread gospel through the cafe so we heard like the people said when we came here we feel peace inside of us we don't know like our cafes in the middle of all the CA academic so most people were hustlers who come from other towns and cities so they told like when we feel sad when we are little disturbed when we came here we feel that peace inside in this place and also we used to me and along with me there's one boy from our church he used to work as a partner so when we see some people alone sitting very disturbed we used to go and talk to them hi how are you doing what's happening and we used to ask is there anything that we can pray for like we don't need to have to tell them to be converted but we can pray for them and most people were actually willing to be get prayed despite of the religion they are like yeah you can pray for me and like that we saw like people coming and we started to invite church come and see we didn't hold actually like forcefully conviction or something but we just told like if this Sunday we are having this meeting if you are interested you can come and see and when they come we heard like they feel something different in the atmosphere they feel that freedom, joy when this happened and we heard of medical students who are about to suicide but they came in the church and they changed their mind and gave life to Jesus so I feel like how we represent how we carry is important in the business and marketing places yes thank you very good yes very nice thank you for sharing thank you for the wonderful work what are you doing any more thoughts any questions Anand is saying that all my students are not talking they are actually chatting with me on the on the chat section ok no questions we will start lesson 9 ok brothers and sisters fathers and brothers brothers and fathers sisters and mothers ok so we said kingdom building is all about building whom people so when we build people is it about having programs to build them or just preaching or what do we do teaching them disciple them how do you disciple them programs teaching yes journey with them of course preaching teaching is very important having workshops weekend schools very important having programs very important but also mentoring them you know life coaching one on one we need to mentor them and coach them ok so we need all of us who are all of them who are mature in their faith we need to teach and impart those who are weak in the faith like Paul says weak in the faith means those who are new in the faith those who are still growing in their faith those who are children or babes in the faith basically better word to use ok so some of us can be brothers some of us can be fathers ok based on our age some of us can be sisters and mothers based on our age but what should we do we need to mentor we need to impart we need to teach we need to journey along with people ok good example is whom in the Bible in the in the in the New Testament Paul yes right he mentored many people even though he was doing great extensive work in the kingdom of God he was somebody who was also personally mentoring what some of the people he mentored Timothy Titus Philem the runaway slave of Philemon ok so all of these people he personally mentored them ok and how does he refer to them when he speaks about them what does he talk about Timothy how does he call Timothy before he says co-workers fellow workers my son in the faith ok my son in the faith but does he forever use this phrase my son in the faith no what does he yes my brother my co-laborer my minister of God so we see that even though Timothy was a son to to Paul and he mentored him and nurtured him you know once he comes to the stature of spiritual maturity and Paul sees that he relates to him in a totally different level ok so you know do we have this kind of mentoring in our churches where people are brothers fathers mother sisters actually few of them only few of them do it like we don't most of them yeah we don't do it most of our interactions can be very business like it's not relational it's not something that is heart to heart that is not you know where we're not sharing ideas and you know transformation the relationship is very superficial ok why do you think it's so superficial why do mature people in the faith don't mentor and impart and teach and train those who are babes in the faith or children in the faith the ignorant of this fact or this calling yes yes thank you Nina Santosh it's time consuming we're taking I think all important points please speak in the mic yes yeah like like a lot of risk we are opening our everything to the other person yes it's a risk because people say hey what if they look at my weaknesses what if they judge me what if they think hey this person is really like you know he's mentoring me but look at him he's all hers he's also having their own challenges yes it is but you know many of them become very lonely in their Christian work yes or no many Christian leaders Christian ministers become very lonely in their in their walker or even when they are struggling or going through challenges they become very lonely why I'm talking about Christian leaders and ministers or kingdom builders they don't want to share their ideas with anyone else because they think that they're only their agenda okay they are not kingdom minded they don't want to share their ideas with anyone else what else they have their own battles and they are like they want to deal with them by their own they have their own battles they want to deal it in their own why do they want to why do they want to deal it by themselves me being a leader if I go and ask help with someone you being a leader going and asking help for someone help for someone it will may put me down in before them but it can be sometimes a pride or sometimes most of the time it can be they will judge me they will mock me they will criticize me they will laugh at me you know what if that happens my reputation will go down my reputation will go down my reputation will go down yes my reputation will go down Jack in says lack of trust in others lack of trust because my reputation will go I will be questionable I will be there you know in front of everybody and they will judge me and condemn me okay but you know but when challenges come we can you know fall under that pressure or you know we can give in and can destroy our life and ministry or sometimes you are so busy doing ministry that we don't build genuine friendships right sometimes you are so busy teaching others imparting to others counseling others that we don't see a need to take care of our own selves okay but it's important right that we build relationships even in the body of Christ with other ministers so that when we go through struggles and challenges we can go to them and when they go through struggles and challenges that they come to us now even as we become brothers and sisters and fathers and mothers to other believers pastors leaders you know in the city what are some of the challenges we face on a one to one if you are you know as two leaders you are being you know co-working with each other or being a brother and a brother to each other or you are being assisted to each other what are some of the challenges like Nina Santosh said time right I have to give in you know I have to spend time to know them their family they have to spend time knowing me my family coming to my church seeing my setup what else yes we must be always available they must be available for us we must available for them you know we must spend time praying and worshiping and seeking God together you know when they go through difficulties we must be there and when they go to success rejoice with them when we go through difficulties they have to be with us when we go to success they should be with us you know we need to receive from their gifting anointing and ministry and they need to receive from our gifting ministry and anointing okay and both of us must honour each other for who we are and what God has called us to okay we must partner with each other as friends we must sacrifice give for their personal welfare family you know and when people hate, criticise, judge mock or when each of us fall down we need to be there to help each other so all this is very very time consuming and I think that is why people don't really want to be brothers and sisters to each other okay but do you think it's important yes it is very important right and I think some of us we need to come to the place where we are brothers and sisters okay we will stop class here thank you all for joining class I think we just have one and a half lessons and we will finish it next Monday okay okay have a blessed week everyone thank you all have a good day have a blessed day God bless thank you