 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a talk of the town. All the sisters, I'm hooking them down. I'm reaching the smiles and the fouls. Gang hop out, then we clearing the crowd. Cheshawp, we aiming for headstreet. Gleece and the Keezy, I got through the check too. ABK, we don't fuck with them niggas. If you jacking them, belt with them niggas. What's up y'all? It's your girl Breanna Imani, and you're tuned into another Talk of the Town interview. And today, who we got in the building? All right, we got more in the building. Mr. Most Consistent, congratulations on your award. How do you feel? Like, is this your first award? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I just felt like the world just signed began. My flowers, you feel me? It's the shit that I do. I bring a lot to the table. A lot of niggas don't really see that. You feel me? So I appreciate your office and you're not giving me the award. Of course. Congratulations. So how did you manage to say so consistent? I mean, even like 2020 leading into 2021, it wasn't only like 2020. It's the same in the studio. Niggas go to the studio every other day. So it's an everyday thing. And after we do the songs, it's really the shoot bits. The next day, probably the same night. So when you put music out, is it songs that you keep in the talk or is it literally like what you said? Like y'all make them? A couple though. Like a couple songs, like I'll look at it and be like, nah, that's not like 100k worth. Every song that I want to put out, I feel like it's got to be a hit. It's got to sound like this is it for me. So what do you classify as a hit? I say the lyrics isn't like in the flows. I don't like a lot of my songs that sound repetitive for me. So if my songs that sound in the scene, I'm gonna choose like which one sounds the best. Which one's the sound that I like and drop on and do it other way. You drop your music through like other YouTube accounts. You don't have one. Why is that? I just mean one recently though. I'm either on a Vivo account. So right now if you go on YouTube and search up more of your school Vivo, you can subscribe and start dropping videos on there. Like every now and then I'll probably drop a video on my socials. Okay. So what was the reason for it before? I just never seen myself like dropping on my own channel because it was mad work. I don't want to be honest. Like I felt like in order to get paid on YouTube before me it's a certain requirement. So I was like, it would be the point of me setting it up if I'm not gonna reach the requirements for me. Like I know it was seen about a certain amount of watch time. Subscribers and shit. And like the first page I made they have subscribers like that. So I was like, just drop on this other page. Started dropping on their channel and getting views. So I was like, might as well keep it going the same way. But you weren't seeing anything from those YouTube views though. Like monetarily, right? No. So what do you... When I see money from music it comes from streams. Like audio. It's like when I put all my albums and shit on old platforms that's when I get my bread back. So what would you say is more important, the streams or the views? Streams is important like money wise. But the views, the people like recognize you coming to attention and shit. That's more important. So let's backtrack a little bit. So growing up, you're from Brooklyn. What was your life like growing up? I was a football player. So I had an athletic life. Just playing ball, going to practice, coming home. So at what point did you decide that you wanted to make music? When I got benched. I got benched for the whole season in my own freshman year. So my freshman year it fucked a lot of us. When I got benched, I got suspended from my school too. So it was like, I wasn't really in the mood for anything else. Just got bored, got on my computer one day and started doing music. So would you say it happened for a reason? Like what you was getting in trouble? That's why you was benched? I got suspended because some other shit that happened at school, like behavior-wise and shit. So yeah, because I heard in the song you was like from 13, you was outside. So you've been getting into that shit. In like, I say in terms of being outside, like just like being like around shit, you feel me? So am I saying like 13, I was running around killing niggas and shit like that? Okay, so would you say though that that contributed to like why you were benched and why you started making your music? The fact that you chose to that? Yeah. So who were you listening to back then? Like the people, like our children are people from my neighborhood, like Nick Bicky, and became Nas Bicky, Tutu G's for me. So you was already listening to the drill shit. Do you think that if they weren't your friends that you would have tapped into the drill shit? Honestly, I'll probably still with it. I ended up doing it because like growing up, I was listening to like Chicago drill music. So like when I should call my attention, I'm like, nah, this shit is it. Like I didn't really listen to the type of music after that. Who was you listening to like Chief Keith? No, Nick was like I'd be Chief Doug. Okay. Doug. I'm good. Kingo G. So when you started making your music and it started picking up, like what was that? Like was it expected? No, I didn't expect it at all. I didn't expect it at all. I didn't expect it at all. I didn't expect it at all. I didn't expect it at all I didn't expect it at all. I didn't expect it at all. I didn't expect it at all I didn't expect it at all I didn't expect it at all. Because for the longest it was like, I wasn't getting no attention from you. Well, I felt like I wasn't getting no attention. And then just out of nowhere one day it was just like everybody paying attention to this one kids now. So what song would you say was like the one that did it? I'd say either On Go or One My Split. Because at that time it was like a controversial song. Because I know it was a second song. Because I know I dropped the GDK, you know, online, it was Folk in the Trunk. When he dropped that, I remixed the beat and did the wood muskets one. So I mean, what are your thoughts on like the whole like, you know, diss tracks and all of that? What are your thoughts on it? We'll start there. I just want your general opinion. As in what, like, why do people make diss tracks? Why do people make, why do you make diss tracks? I just respond. Like, it's a lot of people that like feel the need to mention me or my friends and shit. So I just respond and tell my side of shit. Okay, so you never initiate? I wouldn't say that. No? So when you're making a diss track, do you feel like there's limits to like what you could talk about or is anything on the table? Anything is on the table, like, because it's like, boom. See if a nigga will go and mention somebody man's in the song. I passed away or whatever. That's like, you're crossing the line. You say you wanted to go there in this music shit. So it's one of the same way when I'm job on music. So you just said something. I don't know if you said it on purpose, but you say you wanted to go there in this music shit. So is this like, is the diss stuff music or is it really? Music and entertainment because you see everybody like it. Like the controversy. So entertainment for y'all. Okay. So outside of the booth, it's not really as bad as it seems. Not at all. Majority of these niggas don't even know each other in real life. So it's like, we must see each other in real life. But like out of curiosity, like what does it take for somebody to like talk about you in a diss track? To be honest, a lot of people like have secret animosity. I want to say certain names, but like there'll be people out of it. They'll fuck with you for a certain amount of time. And then out of the blue, you see like all the hatred coming out of nowhere. You feel me? Like they'll start saying shit that they never would have said before when I was cool. And I was animosity that's coming out of nowhere. Has there ever been a time where that's happened with somebody that you were like cool with? Like you really thought that you was cool. Yeah, definitely. Couple times. A lot. So I mean a lot of it though comes with, how do you? So it comes with age because you're growing up and you know, you're getting older in this industry learning stuff. What would you say is one of the biggest takeaways that you've learned so far? Like as an artist. As an artist, like in terms of the industry, how it works. Like one thing I've realized is like when you sign a contract, like you no longer own the music. So that's one thing like I'm going to try to stay away from. Because I see a lot of rappers like getting restricted from dropping music when they weren't getting paid off the music. Not trying to be in that situation at all. I deserve the type of recognition and shit that I have in the streams I'm making. I deserve to have my bread when I want it. I'm not supposed to be able to control when I can get my money off of my music. My hard work. So what I'm hearing is kind of like you'd like to take the independent route for as long as possible. You can say that. So are there any labels that you would consider signing though? Rock Nation. Rock Nation. And what would it take for, so like what is it about Rock Nation for example that interests you? I see like a lot of rappers like consistently come out to like specific labels. I'm not going to say the names but it's a couple of labels I always see people posting about. Like I don't ever see Rock Nation in the mix of that shit. Okay. Okay. So I mean taking it back to the music like what do you think like how would you say that the drill scene is like doing right now? Do you think that it's something that's going to stay consistent? Yeah. Because right now it's looking like how 2016 was looking like with the whole Big Ops and then Licky's going out of the music shit you feel me. So right now that's what it's looking like with this whole Brooklyn shit and people saying they going against what the Bronx is doing. But how do you, what do you think about like how do you, what are your thoughts on the Bronx? I feel like this is going to go a long way for everybody that's really doing something with the music. If you stay consistent and you focus for it, you got everybody's attention right now so you should be able to be good for it. So do you think that the Bronx is doing anything different whether it's bad or good than Brooklyn Niggas was doing when they had time? The thing I could really say is like majority of them just have a lot of like energy in the videos and in the music. Let me not say I haven't heard them because it's a lot of people like that took a flow from Brooklyn Niggas like fresh to the general. He had a raspy voice type of flow and it's like everybody in the Bronx trying to create their own sound with that now. Okay. Okay. So what about when it comes to support? Do you feel like the support of like the Niggas and the Bronx matches how it was in Brooklyn? I mean, I can't really say that because I don't know how it is on the inside. Okay. I don't really know like a lot of Niggas from the Bronx to really say that. But for Brooklyn part, Brooklyn part of it, like it'd be a lot of Niggas that I hate. A lot of Niggas want to support the old man's, they're going to support the Niggas from the Bronx before Brooklyn. Have you noticed that? Yeah, a lot. Yeah. So I mean like Tutu for example, like do you feel like when he performed at Rolling Loud or like when he was like he got put on and you know Niggas from Brooklyn was getting put on. Do you think that that helped at all? Yeah. Yeah. Did he do anything like that specifically that you could say like he was like helping put y'all on? Like me for example, like I never performed before, but I opened up for him out of a performance in Rhode Island in like October. Okay. And how was that? Not sure. I ain't going to lie. It was like. I didn't really expect people to like even know who I was out there, but like a couple of the songs came on and he was rocking it. Everybody knew the song. So you like performing? Yeah. What is it about performing that you like? Like the feedback. Like when I see the crowd is like the active, like how I'm active and I'm feeling it. So what do people like usually say when they hear your music? Like what's the feedback that you usually get? A lot of people they see I'm like to lay back and see like that's just how I am. I can't really, I can't change that. Like I could, but I rather not. Because I'm not a nigga that's going to be myself. Okay. Okay. So do you feel like when it comes to the music stuff, like do you do it to be in the spotlight? Or do you do it because you genuinely like to make music? I don't really care about like the spotlight shit at all. Like the whole goal for this music shit with me right now is like to get out of where I'm at. Like the position I'm in, being in Brooklyn. Like I don't want to be in Brooklyn the rest of my life. I'm trying to live in the hills and see how big I scribed and Cali probably. So I don't really care about the spotlight shit. But if the spotlight didn't bring the money with it, then of course. Okay. So when you get up or to the hills in Cali and stuff like that, will you still be making music? Of course. Yeah. I like music. I love music since I was young. I always loved music. So the music shit is like always going to be there regardless of if I'm at your mouth. I don't even play in the retiring. So you're just going to keep making music for as long as you can? I might sound off for this, but like I want to be a nigga that's like 63 and still rapping. Like you ain't never hear no shit like that. Like yeah that's my grandpa. Like when you ever heard of a nigga with a big eyes chain. There's a video in the Land Truck and shit like that. So I'm going to do some shit like that. So do you think that you would still stay within that drill area? Or do you feel like body and it's going to be? You probably body and it's going to be little types of played out. Nobody even going to hit on shit. Right. So where else do you see yourself though in terms of like the music that you made? See my son is going to fall real far. He and everybody else. Well I say that to say like you I mean you are versatile. I would say like you have you know a few different tracks. We're going to get into that in a bit but like where else would you see yourself if you're not going to be making a drill down the line? Like what markets do you think you could tap into? No it's crazy. Somebody was telling me I should make a dance also. And would you consider it? I would. Like I try different shit all the time when it comes to music. If it sound crazy I'm not doing nothing with it. That's just going to be a throw in. Are you curvy? Yeah. What are you from? Jamaican. Okay so it's in your blood. So would you put somebody on a track? You do by yourself? Nah. I'll do it slowly because like if somebody come on the track and walk on me because I didn't know what I was doing on that type of beat I'm feeling like I'm good by myself. So in general even with the songs you got out now has there ever been a time that you felt like you was on a track with somebody and they like walked on you? A couple times. Yeah. I did a track with Koka. I felt like if him sending me to open, if he sent me to open I could have did better. But like the shit just turned a whole different way. Like when he seemed like I was walking he said nah I'm going back to the studio. I loved it. So what and what was the feedback on that? Like was people talking about it? Yeah everybody. Like a couple people was like how you just dropped a song with Koka and then you shooting videos in Brownsville for me because there was people making politics about it is not fucking with Koka but like it was never the case for me. It's just a bunch of politics that come from social media. I mean social media does play a really big part in a lot of the shit that's going on. So I mean since we're on the topic of social media anyway I'll say the way that you handle the I saw the live with C. Blue the way that you handle that situation was very mature. That whole picking up the phone and screaming at your phone shit is dumb. That shit is shit that I used to do. I matured from that. I see someone that are coming alive. Let him join. He talk. We just going to talk. I really wanted to see where some mom is at. Why? Where did this come from? He just asked me for a feature and I don't know where him and everybody else each other is against us now. Right. So what were your thoughts coming out of that live? Did you get with him? Well I came off that live. It just clicked in my head. Niggas really just did things at the end of the day. You can't come from wanting to do something with a nigga to just say fuck this nigga. We don't like what they doing. If you heard the live he said we just gdk because we don't like folk niggas. If you don't like folk niggas why did you want to do a song for me in the first place? Your mom said just switch so fast. I'm still the same person I was when it the feature was the difference. Now do you feel like the whole politics shit kind of stops like some good music from being made? Like do you? Yeah. Would you ever make a song with one of your ops? No. Even if y'all don't record in the same booth? No. Good off that. Do you feel like if you would have accepted the offer to be on the track that things might have been a little different? Probably. You never know because if I would have did a track with him we would have had a Bronx link. For me it would have been somebody from the Bronx that's making music and game views. For somebody from Brooklyn that's making music and game views. When you see shit like that it's like good chemistry. So both of us would get benefits out of it. So in general like the niggas that you make music with are those your friends, are those business relationships? Yeah. Majority people like that I grew up with this shit. Okay. So I will say though like one of the positives you already spoke about like who you were growing up with and a lot of your collabs go up. A lot of them do. I know like one of the top songs that you have on your Apple music is the song you got with Nas Boogie. One of the songs you got with Nas Boogie which is dope. So how did that come about? Like how do y'all decide when y'all want to hop on the track together? I ain't gonna lie like I don't know if y'all know this man but like Nas like he wasn't dropping a lot of music lately. So when he came to my crib one day he was just like he was looking at my videos and he was like I ain't gonna lie like you're really going up. We gotta start doing music again and take this shit back over. So you get to try to throw this shit in this room and just knock it out. And this is just a quick sidebar. Like we of course see everything that's on social media right now in terms of his condition. You don't have to give too much information but have you spoken to him? Yeah everything good right now. That's why like I try to stop a lot of it in the blogs like texting a couple of bloggers like before the shit really got public. I'm telling them like all that info is full so stop spreading that. But like I don't think it's going to listen to what you see on the media. Right and how does it feel to see? Because I'm not naming any names but like you know a lot of niggas have been like posting it and trying to like be funny. We don't pay that shit on my life. We just like to come like you're goofy. Posting shit that you don't know anything about. Like you have no information on it. But on the other side would you do the same thing? Nah like I don't even like make jokes on social media about niggas. That shit is just my according to me. You keep that stuff in the music. So that was just a quick little segue but back to what we were saying. So when it comes to the collaborations you did a song with um what's her name? What's that? What is he? Zeffie Lee. Zeffie Lee. Yes. How did that link up come about? She somebody not knew. So she wanted to do music and shit but I seen she was really starting to take a serious note like going to the school a lot. She was in the school the other day so I just get on the song and did it the other time. Shot the video like three, four days after. Okay so pose don't miss. Is there any other like female artists that you would like to work with? It's a couple like that I did already. I don't really pay attention to a lot of like the females other than the ones that like who personally had me up or like ones that I know that rap but ones that I work with like Swinderella, Lee Vance, Zeffie. That's probably a couple more I can name like Julia. But there's nobody that's like outside of people you know that you've just seen or something that you would like to work with. I can't really think of one off the top of that. Okay. All right. Well you brought up Swinderella and I saw her in your video for Leah but she didn't have no verses or nothing on that. She was just like in it. So what was that about like you just That's my friend. So she just pulled up it. It didn't mean like a favorite type shit. Okay. The video was nice. The song was nice. So like the love song thing like the melodic stuff like you fucking with it. Yeah. I like that route a lot though. Like more than the drill shit but like it's like the drill shit more. So like that's what I'm gonna keep pushing on. So at what point does it get to like you making what you really want to make if that's what you like? When it's actually start working for me. Like when I post a love song if it could do the same amount if I could do a drill video in a day then I'll start posting more love songs. And what inspires your love songs? You just like... Situations. Situations? Yeah. So what inspired Leah? Situations. Like a current situation? A current... You got somebody? Maybe. What is that like though? Like dating while you going up and like you got all eyes on you. Like you gotta be careful. Like there's a lot of females that like they want with these C you can have. So like I gotta like really know your character but really even try to fuck with you. No, okay. Okay, that's solid. So I saw that Instagram took your took your account down 28k. That's crazy. I'm at 5 right now though. I'm back at 5. Right. So why did they... Why did they delete your shit? Because Belien, supposedly. But I ain't belien nobody. They've been coming after everybody though. Yeah, I see a lot of people page got taken out. Like when the other page got taken out I had 28k. Damn. So like you're building a... So how have you been getting like your page back up? I just keep posting reels. Like when I'm about to drop a video it's just like fuck it. Like I still gotta promote my shit so many so I'm not just posting it anyway. A lot of people started tapping in from like the first night when it got deleted. So like a lot of people seeing like yeah this is the real page that you got now and promoted it for me. Okay. So do you feel like Instagram is like a good marketing tool? Not definitely. Like before I used to think like Facebook was really it but like not. Instagram is way better. Like as people that are tapping with you from across the country Facebook you're not going to see that. You see that? You're probably going to think it's a fake page. Right. Has there ever been a time that anything was like posted on the internet that you wish like maybe I wish we didn't have this right now. Yeah. Yeah. Like what? A lot. A lot. So what is it? Okay. Well I got you on the couch. I cannot ask. I know you know it's coming but I cannot ask. So there's a video that's circulating of you when it looks like you were like younger. Yeah. And. I was copying it. Respectfully. I was just how would I say it? Cholen. Cholen? Was that a vine? What was that? Not even a vine. Like it was a whole another little nigga that made a video doing some shit like that and I copied it. Trying to be funny. Regular bulls and kids shit. So how is it that like niggas got it? Because it was on one of my own pages. I guess somebody like really took the time out they paid to worry about me and looked through my shit and happened to see it. Cause I put it got leaked. Cause I saw a video of you like on FaceTime. I think it was like with a girl or something. She's like you mad Zorgi. Yeah. So what was that about if that wasn't related? That was something else? No. She just she hacked my page one day and I posted a picture of us. So she posted a picture of us. You know like we don't have no relations anymore. It made it seem like she's my girlfriend. So like she like that gave me aggravated. So I got aggravated. If you really watch the video you can see like I'm smirking. I'm laughing. I wasn't like crying and nothing like I'm just tight aggravated but when she starts saying that you mad shit like I'm laughing right now. That's really it. Yeah. That's so cool. Okay. So. So all right. So 2022 what do you see like happening this year? What what do you got planned for the year? Right now I see it. Big eyes contract. Really? Definitely. Cause like if you really paying attention to the jail scene you've seen a lot of these rappers just crashing out like niggas is either going to jail or they dying. So it's like I'm sitting out the way from both. So I know I'm going to prevail in that one point in time like they don't you ever seen a post on Instagram or on Facebook maybe like I killed an all the good rappers so you're going to have to listen to me like that's how I'm feeling right now. Okay. Well all right so contract you were just saying like you wanted to stay independent for as long as possible like yeah facts but like if the price is right the the the the rights is right and I'll go along with it. Okay. Okay. You got any projects in the works anything I'm thinking about dropping a little EP for Valentine's Day. A lot of people telling me I should get back on my love side. Yeah. We was just talking about that. You definitely should and Valentine's Day is right around the corner. So that's something that you got to be already working on. Maybe. Okay. Okay. So if you had to list like I know I asked you about women but if you had to list like some collabs that you would like to see in the works who would you name if you had to pick five who would you name like anybody in the industry or like people like it could be it could be upcoming or mainstream like use G's I could say fresh in the general like I know a lot of people they're asking me like why you don't got to check with fresh here why you don't check like because be busy like a lot of people like don't even go to the stool like that no more like that's gonna come in the works for sure it's a lot bro it's a lot of people want to work with because I'm a nigga I like to expand for me to like anybody from Chicago Florida all type of shit So what's one like out of the box artist that you would like who's not like like on a drug scene yeah I heard of somebody called juvenile baby I've been listening to him a lot really from Florida okay yeah okay okay okay all right well is there any like words of advice that you would like to share to any upcoming artists who may be watching this I mean the most I could say like do y'all music stay out the way don't crash out don't crash out what that mean crashing out is like don't even like for it okay and a lot of music is out here doing that right now we got this rap shit in the headlock supposedly mm okay all right well shout out your Instagram your handles over there please get my new gram back to 30k not even 28 the real dog mori blip BLRXK a lot of y'all be putting C