 The following is a presentation of TFNN. The TFNN Bull Bear Training Hour, every training day, live at 10 a.m. Eastern. Call now, toll free at 877-927-6648 or internationally at 727-873-7618. The TFNN Bull Bear Training Hour. Now, Tom Antt, Tommy O'Brien. Welcome, folks. We have the Dow Industrial is up 275. NASDAQ is up 79. SAPs are up 26. Gold. Gold contracts down $17.10. Trading at $14.66 an ounce. You get Silver down 42 cents. $16.63 an ounce. Light Sweet Crude up a buck 19. $59.62 a barrel. Notes and bonds. You get the 10-year down 13 ticks, $128.28. You get the 30-year off 21 at 157.23. And if you just read that update, folks, there's still basically some huge divergence inside the broad market versus the bond market. The bond market is still, well, we've just done the 10 as well as the 30s. We've rejected the lower price and we're going to have lighter volume. Kingdoller. Kingdoller is up about 317 ticks. Trading 97.727. The Euro is at 110. The Yen is at 108.79. The pound is at $131 to $1 US. And as you come over to our website, folks, at TFNN, you're going to see Tom, every trading day right now, right under featured content. Morning Market Report. He has one on the morning, one on the afternoon. And Tom O'Brien, you had plenty to talk about this morning, man. You know, there's been no shortage of news, and especially on Jobs Friday, non-farm payroll, and man, oh man, I'm sure we'll get into it. 266,000 jobs added for November. The estimate was somewhere around 187,000. Pretty interesting in terms of even ADP private number came in at like 65,000 earlier in the week. But boy, oh boy, quite a number. And as you'd expect, markets trade higher, gold spikes lower. I was listening to your update with bonds as well. Lots going on out there this morning. And man, we're only 38 minutes right now into the trading day. But boy, oh boy, quite a number, man. As if there's been a little bit of a worry about a stagnant economy. What's the Fed going to do? But boy, oh boy, that is quite a number coming into the holiday season. So folks, every trading day now, just jump over to TFNN. You're going to see that right under featured content. It's there every day. Now you also got Tesla gets an upgrade from Morgan Stanley. Oh my God. I know, right? Yeah. This is intriguing. They have a little bit of information. I was reading about that this morning. We're talking about the Cybertruck. So one of their analysts, Adam Jonas, said that he sees Tesla selling 100,000 Cybertrucks by the end of 2024. So we're going out four or five years, but that truck's not going to start selling for two years. And an average price of 50K. And additionally, that analyst Jonas believes Tesla's Gigafactory in China could perform better than anticipated and reach a production rate of 450,000 units per year by 2024 or 2025. And the batteries are a big deal. The battery folks are a monster because it's just not only, they don't have to just sell them to themselves. If they get that battery deal down pat, everyone needs batteries. Now the only thing that I want to put as a caveat to that is Morgan Stanley's best quick, excuse me, best case quote unquote price target of $250 a share remains unchanged. So no change. And right now Tesla is trading at $336. So how does that square? But nonetheless Tesla up almost 2% today. Interesting. Let's take a look at the gold market. So we get gold down $16 GC gold on the February contract. So let's see what we got here. Well, this is good. We're still not even at the swing point. Amazing. You know, it's funny is that when you're at larger numbers like this, I guess you're at $1466. $16 is a good number, but in fact, not a monster number. Yeah. Right. It's barely 1%, 1.1% right now it's showing. Yeah. So our swing point here folks is $1456. You've hit $1464 thus far. $146. Oh, this is going to be interesting. So what we had on Tuesday, he had a nice sign of strength on Tuesday. Gold went from $1465 to $1487. We did $400,000 contracts. Now the way it's looking right now, it looks to me that we could do $400,000 contracts because we're at $210 right now folks at $1010. Now what does happen is that most of this volume is going to come in by 130 Eastern standard time because that's when the, basically the pit closes and inside the pit, the bottom line is they've still got a lot of big trades that are in there versus electronic trades throughout the day. So we'll see where that baby shakes out. Now the note and bond, this is like pretty wild man. Yeah, I was listening to your update. Let me see, TY, this is pretty hard to wrap your head around that we get an economy that's cooking. There's no two ways about that man. You got jobs that are cooking. I guess inside the jobs number two, you had an additional $41,000 that just came from GM, which is kind of interesting. And that was part of an overall $54,000 gain in manufacturing, $41,000 in quote unquote motor vehicles. But that's a big portion of GM for sure. Now if you're watching Tiger TV folks, you're going to see we had a huge center strength on Tuesday. The tenure went from $128.26 to $130.04. You did $2.3 million contracts. Now at $1.1 right now, we've already rejected the $128.26. You know, if we get light of volume here and you get a rejection, it's like, hey, guess what man, they're still not selling notes and they're not selling bonds. And that's still saying that even in an economy that we have right now that these rates are going to stay low. So it's a tough one to wrap your head around because what, you know, you're going to have Trump wanting lower rates. He's going to be hammering, you know, Powell. Now he can't hammer him today on it. He has to wait for a couple of days. You don't think so? No. He's going to forget that it's a big jobs number. I know. I know. So we'll see. And as you say that, either the TV on in the background, just be interesting. You got Kudlow out there on Bloomberg live in front of the White House cheerleading those numbers, I'm sure. So you're going to have a lot of rhetoric out there today for sure. No doubt. Some of the higher volume equities out here today, folks, in this market, you get Bank of America. That's kind of bid. That's up 60 cents. Big lots of five dollars. That stock's been a mess, though. It's at 24 dollars and 34 cents. We have Micron Tech up a buck 30, buck 50. Let's go see what Apple. Apple's up 346. I was waiting for you to get there. Exactly. That's been new all time high, right? I think it might be. It's close right up to 269. Yep, it is. There you go. Okay. Let's see. Let's see. We hit 269.35 today. And that's it. All right. So now we have a market cap of almost 1.2 trillion. It's 1.195.5 trillion. Trillion. Trillion. Yep. That's an inconceivable number to most people when you try and put it in an understandable basis. Yeah, I know. Believe me. That's 12. That's a one followed by 12 zeros is a trillion. Never mind. People used to talk, is that seven figures or nine figures? You're talking 12 figures, right? Yeah. And actually you're talking 13 figures because it's 12 zeros with a one in front of it. You got it. That's pretty intense. It is. Let's go over to the oil market. Take a look at oil. So you get the Saudis coming. They're saying that they're going to back down even more. Yeah. More cuts, right? 500,000 barrels, more cuts than they even initially, and oil. You saw that spike. And look at that, man. It's over. It made it over the consolidation. 58. 74. So that does put game. It puts game with 61 here. The very top is 61.48. Stay right there, folks. Tommy and I are coming right back. Our phone number is 877-927-6648. You get a job this Friday. Come in with big numbers. Push the S&P up on the numbers like 17 points or up 28 points right now. I'll come right back. 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Call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 internationally at 727-873-7618. Welcome back folks. Dow. Dow is up 266. You get the Nasdaq up 73. S&Ps are up 25. And you know take a look at this story Tom. This is you know New York City man. There's only one New York City you know. And what you have here folks is that where am I now Facebook. Here it is. Okay. So I saw that you send me that email over during the break. Yeah. You know I've heard this for so many years folks. Okay. So 30 40 years that you know bottom line is that you know New York's expensive going to change you know people move out and well guess what every single time there's just more big companies moving in and what this is really about is that Facebook's and talks for a New York office which would be making the company one of the city's largest Facebook's and talk to Lisa Landmark Manhattan building a deal that would make it one of New York's largest corporate tenants and would help offset the lack of Amazon.com second headquarters earlier planned for the city. The social media giant has an eye on 700,000 feet of space in the Farley building a vast post office undergoing mixed use redevelopment. The new space would be in addition to check this out in addition to Facebook's recent deal to lease 1.5 million square feet at the new Hudson Yards. It's like these tech companies man I mean yeah. So this one here is saying that the new lease if the Farley deal is completed with the Hudson Yard deal that's going to be 14,000 new and well I don't know if they're new or they're transfer on them 14,000 Facebook employees 14,000 I mean it's just it's it's phenomenal man 14,000 that I mean so there's some small towns that don't have 14,000 people on them. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see in terms of if they get tax breaks or what they get in in light of you know how the Amazon deal kind of fell apart and part of the you know critique of the Amazon deal was that you don't need to give away so much in New York City to get these companies to come and that was part of what you know what I mean it was that that you know if you're a Midwest you know bashing a farmland and you want to bring in a tech company that they don't have a reason to go there besides a cut and it may actually spur an economic development that would not have happened without that type of a tax benefit then that's where it might make more sense than you know boroughs you know giving these tech companies you know so much money when in reality if Amazon didn't buy that space Facebook's going to come in and buy that space the jobs are going to get created it's New York so why are you taking all this taxpayer dollars to give these companies when really it's not an incentive that's necessary in New York I you know and it's it's such a complex debate I would love to hear and they'll talk about it now the Facebook's going to scoop up because that Hudson Yard there are huge benefits that a lot of companies got to be in that Hudson Yard area and that was kind of part of the critique on that as well saying right you know listen all you're doing is you're taking some companies that were in Manhattan you're putting them in a Hudson Yard and you're giving them a boatload of state dollars to do it when realistically you know it's not exactly the economic engine that those types of incentives are supposed to provide no no and in the same article folks you know Google is forming its own community in campus like kind of not under the weather I mean that you know they're building by building by building it's pretty amazing though I mean it really it's it's you know when you look at it it's like wow yeah and then you know what Amazon's gonna be back to Amazon will just end up bottom line you know leasing something and so so many of the new I'm just reading if you can stay with many of you just scroll up a little bit because they had the attack that Facebook isn't getting the same many of the new tech deals have been reached without significant incentives or extra tax breaks from the city at Hudson Yards Facebook isn't getting the same financial inducements like additional tax credits that were included in the package offered to Amazon right so you know I know there was a lot of uproar and you know myself included saying how you gonna you know not turned down but this is kind of what you know the people that were we're in an uproar were saying that listen you know we're giving all this taxpayer money to companies when we're Manhattan we're New York City all right these we don't need to do that and this is a perfect example of you know Facebook 700,000 square feet 14,000 jobs and it doesn't look like they're getting and maybe they're getting something but something much more reasonable than than the millions upon millions that Amazon was being handed from taxpayers of the city right now listen to this number folks okay this is a monster number so what happens in New York City folks okay like the the banking community if you work at night in the banking community just about everyone like you work for Morgan Stanley Tom or Goldman or whatever right okay happens folks is that they have contracts with car services personal car service not they're all black cars that you drive is right yes and they don't want you driving number one so you're working late you get picked up by car they're gonna make sure you get home safe wherever you're going right now look at this number and so the tech companies ever don't need doing this to look at the number of this is of an amazing number folks in 2018 okay now for number of vehicles for higher vehicle drivers is 120,000 that's four times more than 2014 that is amazing that it's an amazing number and if he used to New York you'd be really surprised that if you've seen in front of the banks you know you see the black cars lined up and it's not the president coming in it's it's sure they're making sure people get home safe that's what it comes down to but that isn't that is a monster number man that's yeah what's just a huge number I mean even if you just do you know like 150,000 I just doing quick math that you know if you're making 150,000 a year and a lot of these people are making that at a minimum when you're talking about tech investors right they say well above that 250 350 easy when you're working in Manhattan the cost of living alone right let alone you know the quality of skill that you possess as a worker but if you're making 150,000 a year you're making gross about almost 3,000 a week all right and if you're working 40 hours which you probably working more than 40 hours on that type of deal but you're making about 75 bucks an hour okay now that's like the bottom basement these are you know it makes more sense man if you have to sit in traffic for an hour right why that company is just that even they can pay you to be in a car and then you're on your phone even or you're working you know what I mean you're able to be on your laptop if you want to you can start the day it makes sense when you get up to that type of pay that the company is willing to pay yeah a driver $25 an hour it might be you know or even more or less however it works out right to sit in traffic in Manhattan where you're sitting in your car when you start talking about those types of salaries it just makes economical sense for them to have you start your job when you get into a car as opposed to sit in traffic no doubt let alone the safety if you're working late night you know it's a comp it's an extra comp people don't have cars in the city so it's kind of an added comp some of the best workers as well so Amazon guess what I watched the NFL on Amazon last night did you check it out folks I showed them that I was on Amazon just looking at things they were pumping that bears game on Thursday night on prime it signed in it was awesome yeah yeah and it will really be interesting we're saying you know Amazon would probably pay the money for exclusive NFL rights if the NFL would sell it to them the NFL isn't that foolish because I think that would be a mistake because nobody has the ability to watch them all yet on Amazon and the NFL wants to preserve that you know reach of being able to reach everybody but man oh man it's coming oh it's definitely coming now I cracked up how easy it was that's awesome nice staring at folks Tommy and I are coming right back we have that our industry is up 261 Nasdaq up 73 S&P's are up 26 come on back hi folks Tom O'Brien here if you'd like to get my daily newsletter market insights then now is a great time to sign up for a 30-day free trial every morning by 9 30 I send out my morning letter to subscribers with market commentary on a 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charts today by visiting TFNN.com this segment is brought to you by think or swim for more information just click the think or swim banner on the front page of TFNN.com welcome back folks Tom and Tommy O'Brien we do appreciate you growling a problem with us out here we have the now about 271 Nazik is up 74 S&P's are 26 let's cross that Atlantic and talk to Kenneth from the UK Kenneth what's going on yeah just a quick question I'm one of your subscribers and I have about 5000 shares of JNUC so I just want to get your valuable opinion whether to sell them hold or put the limit order or what to do and what did you did you just buy this you have held this for a while now JNUC folks is the direction daily gold miners three times uh leveraged product so that's right so you're down 290 right now you're trading at 65-14 and I mean you understand these are daily investment vehicles right yeah you know unfortunately I had this tough at least for few months now so that's right you know the worries I bet so what are you in it at how much money that's very good here you how much money are you in the trade at yeah I have almost 6000 shares of JNUC so I understand but what price what price did you buy them at the main price was 67 dollars and the other one is 80 dollars that because I bought a portion of it when it was high I said then since then it came down you know right now you're 64 points something okay so this is what I would do what you have with JNUC right now folks is that we we went top side on Tuesday you had a decent volume you're back in down today you've already rejected lower price at this 63-23 area I'd stay right there but you got to understand that the way that okay so your worst case scenario Kenneth would go like this is that if they let's go GDXJ so if we go to the GDXJ I'm the reason I'm going to the GDXJ folks is that this trades the JNUC trades off the GDXJ that's that's the the main basis here so we've been in a consolidation now going all the way back to September 9th okay we get a break out of this consolidation because what happens Kenneth in a consolidation whether you had a bullish position or a bearish position in a levered product they would both lose value that's how it works when you don't have a trend going on because each and every time you're going up or going down they reset themselves every day okay so the bottom line is that I'd stay right where you are right now you know the bottom line is that you know what this did out the GDXJ out here today your gap was at $38.29 we went to $38.41 you rejected it you're at $38.79 you know bottom line is that let's go over to the J Nugget now and don't buy anymore okay yeah I so you've been trading this for a while right I mean the levered product right yeah yeah so what happens folks what you hear and now listen I'm with you I get it what happens folks is this is that if you're right on the these are daily investment vehicles the kicker here is you don't go out and buy five or six thousand shares at least unless you've been trading it for a while and what ends up happening is that if we are in a bull which I think we are you'll you'll get bailed out um you know so I would just I just hang right there I mean you haven't broken down yet you know underneath this uh 62 33 so and you know we're going to need volume coming into it you know if we if we go over and we take a look at the dollar you know the dollar is not going leaps and bounds up here we have 323 ticks at 97 733 and if we do go into the gold market the the gold contract itself GCG has you know it will come down hard but now what you can see is that when we started the program we were 210,000 contracts so what you what is happening right now is that the contract volume is contracting it's it's hard to tell how much you're going to get you know we don't want 400,000 because that's what we went up on we're at 231,000 right now and you want to see this gold contract close over 1465 40 if that's what you get then it's like okay so gold still wants higher price so you gotta you gotta you get a lot of pressure on you man that's real bottom line you know but I'd stay right there don't sell them out at this point just don't sell them out at this point because the notes and bonds are also saying they still want higher price if notes and bonds want higher price guess what asset hard assets in general you know and that that's a twist I mean this this note and bond market you know it just doesn't stop and if rates you know are going to stay low even if the economy is booming beyond belief well guess what gold's going to continue higher you know the the 10-year note we just went from 128 21 we're up another full set 10 ticks this is this is like it's going to be a total rejection of lower price out here today so so by next week do you see any kind of positive outlook in the trade talk you know I mean if the talk fails then the gold will go up next week I would say that the the market itself the my understanding is the first part of the trade talk if we get the first series done all that's going to do is say that okay we're not going to put the new taffs on December 15th really okay so it's not like this thing's going to be over you know December 15th is a big number and we're at what are we at the sixth today yes okay so if if all if those taffs go on the December 15th this market will go south in about two seconds because the market I don't think the market is expecting that we're going to put those taffs on the 15th because that we're talking consumer goods now and you know we get an election going on it's like okay you're really gonna you know business wise a paying big taxes right now with taffs coming in but if they're gonna you know the way apple is trading new all-time high apple will be one of the biggest companies to get hit with those taffs I don't think we're that's going to happen I know so it's a wild card man either either way I think gold gold's going higher because I think the dollar is going lower you know I think the next battle is going to be if Trump's going to have a battle he just might want a currency war he needs he's going to need some kind of a wad to keep everyone busy you know what I mean so um I think that might be the next thing that plays out because you know he can turn around and tell Mnuchin start selling dollars you know people say that okay that's never going to happen well guess what he can do it the the treasure he can he can direct the treasury to sell dollars and if we ever wake up in the morning and he directs the treasure to sell dollars because he thinks that other countries are manipulating their currencies you will see you know you'll see some you'll see hard assets get very strong you know so I wish I had a better answer for you you know that's oh no that's quite good enough so thank you very much for your answer thank you man appreciate it thank you bye bye there's so many moving pots to this tom do you know what I mean that there sure are you know there are I mean it's always intriguing even the jobs number right where um you know the market loves it but what happens with interest rates now are we are we gonna talk about raising rates again I was surprised to see no hesitation in the market that totally I'm sure I can't even believe that as we're talking the titty is only down eight ticks now right stay right there folks Tommy and I come right back if you're in the cd market and looking for a secure investment the tiger first mortgage program may work for you the security for these first mortgages are building lots in the tax opportunity zone in st. 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number there about 200 Dow points yeah so if we take a look at the point moves inside here you get look at this 3M putting 48 points Boeing putting 33 Goldman putting 30 only Dow stock that's in the negative here is that you got United Health 15 negative you know the Saudi Arabia deal folks Tommy let's go over this thing so you had they you know was in Vienna they were meeting the last couple days in Vienna and so the the headline here is Saudi Arabia surprised the oil mic by promote promising significant additional cuts beyond what was agreed to with fellow OPEC plus members in Vienna after two days of talks in Vienna that focused on adjusting the groups quoted to formalized recent output levels and redistributed cuts more equitably among members the Saudi minister sent prices soaring with the promise to take the kingdom's production down to levels not seen on a sustained basis since 2014 so they're saying that the Saudis are saying that they came to a conclusion of what they're supposed to do and now they're going to voluntarily cut an additional 400,000 barrels a day folks you know so um that brings the total cuts implemented by the OPEC countries and its allies to 2.1 million barrels a day man that must be a lot of oil out here huh if they have to you know it's it's just remarkable that of course they're doing it on literally almost the day of the IPO for Saudi Aramco and you know what's going to happen in a month or two when when they want to turn the spigot back on and they already have you know all their all their local rich businessmen and women that they locked up with the ritz into the company and they they have to hold it they can't sell it for a period of time and they got their 1.7 trillion dollar valuation right and and now they want to turn back on the spigot to start making some more cash by selling that oil which it's just an intriguing play into how things are working in that market right now and you can see you know i mean talk about oil they just cut 2.1 million barrels a day folks okay that doesn't take much you know that's 60 barrels you know what no that's 60 million barrels a month right yeah exactly 60 million barrels a month okay that's how much oil's out there and i would say that when when real big oil producers see something like that meaning the users rather right just saying hey man you're not gonna you're gonna i don't know how much you cut you're not going to be able to bring this up dramatically if there's that much that's sitting out there and then the real question is going to be is that what do the other countries do you know right saying okay i gotta i gotta send another three or four hundred thousand barrels out a day yeah because the last comment in that article says that's too low for most OPEC members to balance their budgets you know it would make an unfortunate epilogue for the record-breaking IPO um yeah i mean they they a lot of those countries man they need to sell oil to balance their budget so we'll see how that goes right now i'm going back to the bond market folks is this this is so unusual it's crazy there's something that's going on out here today like right now the if we go over to the 30 year when i started the show the 30 year okay tom and i started the show the 30 year was it 15705 we're at 15803 it's only town eight ticks it's not really it's like and maybe that's a little bit of what i had talked about man we know it's it's a messed up world we live in where when things to go well the market says oh no wait a second maybe it's too well and maybe the feds gonna start thinking about raising interest rates again i mean if we start at 300 000 jobs a month man why are we at record low interest rates and worried about you know the future as in i i would love to see the next time the pal sits down and and talks about whether it's this number what happens when we come into january we get a lot of december jobs that's a great month usually december right oh yeah so what happens when we have back to back 250 000 job ads and the fed says nope we're not even thinking about you know cutting um well it's just i i feel like it might be playing into that i listen man it's it's it's all the above because it's pretty intense you know this is you know normally folks okay what would happen here the note and bond market should absolutely be toasted today they should be throwing these things overboard okay yes and we know they haven't been doing it for a long period of time right but this is monster divergent you're talking about a dow that's up 300 points an s&p that's up 28 you already fundamentally know that the jobs were there are there all of the above now all that being said guess what the note and bond market i don't know if whether they're just not believing it tom or they're saying i don't care i'm buying it anyway because i think the interest rates are going to go lower longer right it's like can you can you go over to the fed fun futures when you get a moment i'm just curious if anything's happened to that something's happened since we've been on i think i i just i can't quite a reversal yeah it is let's see as of february 20 upgrade you have an option to upgrade early i won't upgrade yet i'd like to do that but let's just close this one right now um okay so i got him up here let's see what we're looking at here they so right now we're in the 1.5 to 1.75 column right and it looks like the next they have us they do have a small chance of a hike oh look at that that's the first how about that that's the first we've seen in a while folks okay yeah i can that's that's a that's a change they sell december 11th meeting you get a three percent chance of a hike yeah and then it goes down it goes down in 2020 it goes down folks okay and it probably is because you know i was saying maybe there's still that pessimism into the next year of the economy but maybe they're saying jeez but what about right now man things are marching maybe this would be um another chance to do a one-off but we saw how that went last time yeah that didn't seem to work too well so i would hesitate to think powell but i would love i i can't wait to see the next press conference and powell trying to navigate how we're now back to 260 thousand dollars jobs added for the month and somehow we can't even think about going out raising interest yeah all right there's no doubt there's no doubt because what we have to people should be not not up in arms right but we need room to be able to cut interest rates when the market has problems and when the economy has problems and we're at 3.5 percent unemployment rate and you know we have our president slamming that rates should be lower like this we're going to go through a lot of pain if we have an economy slowdown and the fed has no room to spur economic growth and that's right where we are right now so that's what people should be aware of no no hey listen we get negative rates yeah yeah exactly it's absolutely wild no no doubt about that alto let's go take a look at alta alta came out last night folks and now this stock has got hammered uh you know it's up good right now it's up 28 bucks but that's down we're 264 and that's down from 368 let's see what they had to say here i'm sure i'm at kevin hanks said they were having some fun with that yesterday you know just before you jump into it the expected move right was about 21 to 22 dollars so even with an eight to nine percent it beat the expected move on volatility look at that huh so uh stay right there folks coming i will come back with uh alta we have the uh dow industry is up 308 nasdaq is up 83 s&p's are up 30 we'll come right back i'm certain you are or strive to be one of the best of the best at everything you do in life it's the most common trait that we tigers and tigers share if you're looking to become the best of the best when it comes to managing your money let me teach you to do what most wealth managers tell you can't be done 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mean the stock has got smoked there's no doubt about that but these are these are decent numbers man the comp sales are down so the big brick mortars down they were looking for 7.8 percent on a comp they got 3.2 um fiscal that was year on year they actually beat they were looking for 3.1 they're still up but just i see okay to put because i mean it's just they're not really down they they're just down on a year and year but they still grew by 3.2 percent comp sales and they even beat the estimate right i got okay cool yeah and then inside here that i would think one of the big ones look at this e-commerce comp sales folks that they're looking year so that'd be fiscal year that's the e-commerce comp sales plus 20 to 30 percent pretty cool now that's pretty intense because if you've ever seen these alta stores folks the alta stores are they're huge they're like they're like home depots except that they got all little tiny bottles that cost you know big money and then markup is like extraordinary yes um but if they're if they're driving e-commerce comp sales you don't even go to the place yeah i wonder how what's a comp sale when when it's e-commerce yeah i don't know they probably thought it was at a small number right yeah net sales 1.68 billion it's a big number man yeah that's for 90 days right yeah yeah yeah amazing yeah third quarter net sales that really is it is let alone that's probably not their biggest quarter man they probably christmas time you know the malls i mean what are they gonna do they're probably gonna do two billion dollars almost for christmas season not a bad company man no it's a huge number yes you know so we're the jobs friday folks uh you get the dials up uh 30 uh dials up 300 s and p's are up 30 stay right there folks we got think of swim coming up next then we got uh steve rhodes day white i'll be back this afternoon thanks pal thanks man stay right there folks think it swims coming right up