 Fuck me and my fucking asshole everybody we're back with more riksty minutes me the best guy ever and did you bro? fuck Run episode 7 of season 3 you got it of this shit Yeah, there was no episode last week that really threw me for a fucking loop say I was not prepared But but boy didn't get it this week Yeah, yeah episode. It was the one it was the one This one was heavy. It sure was dude Sure was I was going to watch it again for this podcast because there was so much going on But I kind of couldn't bring myself to Really? I did not like I mean this episode is fun and entertaining as they all are but it also It's got stuff to say you know no doubt about that it leaves you on kind of a down note And it's one of those episodes that I had to like Stand outside and have a smoke with that chaos chaos song stuck in my head Yeah, and and be like god fuck man Yeah, it's some heavy shit dude It's got so fucking real in in multiple dimensions in multiple ways, you know in Rick and Morty continuity terms and in Real negative shit terms, you know, yeah, well first. I want to say about this this show I Kind of like the way that Rick and Morty will abuse its premise this show Basically because of the fact that this is a nihilistic Thrill ride the show doesn't give a fuck about anything and it's already established literally everything is possible Because we're in we're in the multiverse the infinite multiverse every possibility will happen And the show really takes advantage of that in this episode Because everything about this Citadel is like why would it be that way, right? But then it but then like if in the infinite multiverse every possibility will happen Then like it's all justified like there just there's just a reason there's a reason that one Rick is just like that I don't know what that reason is, but there there is one. Oh, yeah out there Yeah, there's no doubt about it and it's it's just used to such a great effect and they're they're using them to tell I mean, you know, it's been said but really more than any episode before to use the multiple clones of Rick's and Morty's in the way they're used in this episode is absolutely fantastic. It's brilliant I don't know if I've ever seen a story like it before but I I fucking love it Especially with the obvious racial parallels going on in the episode, right? It's fucking intense the racial parallels But that don't necessarily like reflect any one racial thing going like you could call it class You could call it a class divide instead if you wanted. Yeah, you know, I mean It's definitely it's it makes a lot of different like Commentaries on real-world stuff, but none that's specific enough to like say oh, they're doing that It's all like just like a vague gets into your mind, you know, yeah Like that's what I think is powerful about it is that it never made me think oh This is like a parallel for I don't know black lives matter or something which another show would do it's more like I Don't know it's it spoke to something more fundamental to me I felt the same way that this is how it's always been and always will be I thought it would have been so easy for them to I would honestly my sensors were in full gear looking for like SJW cuck shit. I really was I was I was on the lookout knowing just as it was going through the episode and I was not I did not find myself in any way like able to to contest in any like You know just just there was nothing to object to in the in the story that was presented here Everything here was perfectly logical Do you say that I would say I was on the opposite side. I had an eye out for pushing a Like a conservative agenda or like a little bit. It's like I don't think this show has ever come off as being on the side of like Social justice, you know, you know, I he Rick is not that kind of guy You know, it's interesting about that that that actually tells me something I think because I have been aware of the discussion going on lately about Dan Harmon sort of like airing on the side I wouldn't even say that he's like on the social justice warrior side, but he's like had some pretty pretty Pretty much discussed comments about how like Trump is like a literal Nazi or I can't honestly remember the exact quote It was I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, but Dan Harmon also himself is a Like Dan Harmon. There's this I haven't actually seen this. I'm talking about the second hand So you're getting some real tertiary knowledge. Okay, okay, but there's a documentary about Dan Harmon and this tour He did that Victor Washington told me about yeah, and like Dan Harmon is apparently like He's he's self-aware about this fact, but he is a terrible fucking person really who everyone hates including himself I know that I know that basically he's a mess like he's an alcoholic Mm-hmm, and he just has lots of like weird like pride issues And he just kind of like flies off the handle and like gets mad at people really easily and all this stuff and like He's just really hard to deal with okay, and he knows this fact and like but that kind of perpetuates it even more Like he sees himself as a bad guy, so he doesn't like try to be a good guy But because he's self-aware he can also write that into his characters somehow, you know It's it's amazing like that Victor was even saying in the documentary They say like everyone thinks community for instance was like canceled for studio like that It wasn't popular enough, but apparently it was partly cuz like Dan Harmon's shitty to work with People can't survive like the process and stuff like that fascinating but Harmon aside who it does, you know, he can air somewhat on the side of that stuff But like then you look at Justin Roiland who's just a fucking maniac main and of course, right? Absolutely despise a social just to see I mean this show's kind of made fun of social justice warriors before yeah in some ways You know so like I never really bought the argument that people were making that like I When you're in sort of the I don't even know if Dan Harmon is in the LA bubble or whatever But when the all the people around you are perpetuating the notion that like someone is a certain way or you know Like the alt-right is full of like actual Nazis or just like that the that the country is being consumed by like Nazi propaganda or something Like I could see why someone would say something that could be interpreted Maybe it's our fault for being so reactionary to the things he says for assuming that he's not see I don't I don't know the full context. Maybe I mean hating Trump doesn't make you a fucking liberal cuck That is very true. That's very true plenty of conservatives hate Trump and might even think he's a fucking Nazi, but and Speaking of Trump this episode. I mean I didn't think this going in But as soon as I was done and I just started looking up a little bit of information what people were saying about it The Trump parallels were everywhere of course of course they were the people are so fucking stupid like this guy is not Trump in like this is a Machiavellian like evil genius mastermind Is that what Trump is to you guys? Is it really do you really see the connection here? What the fuck? That's so no, this is obviously about the elite class exactly exactly ruling class This is that's why I said like this felt to me like it was speaking to all time Not about current events, you know like this is it's that's why we keep getting the refrain throughout the episode like same old Story Morty's killing Morty's same old story Rick's killing Morty's like this is the same old story that has been told for All time and like the the behind-the-scenes Rick council is all corporate people. It's all leaders of corporations It like if they're they're the Illuminati Exactly, that's right, you know and like to me it had more parallels to like I don't know Like the way the room is designed in everything felt like a Greek society thing or just like this all time felt timeless It felt like this is how it's always well, of course because like again I think the what I said before about like race is the obvious thing to go to when you watch this But I really think it's more about class. This is really a class divide that we're seeing here between The bourgeois and the bourgeoisie and the proletariat the thing is like You know, there's a lot of a lot of a lot of free radical thinkers out there who Talk about how the biggest and I agree with this notion that the the biggest problem Facing us is that everyone tries to make everything a race thing, but it is a class thing Yeah, right, right the real problems in our society are are more based around class and like Improvised people of all races have the same issues You know exactly there might be more impoverished people who are black But like everyone who's impoverished is facing these issues and this episode kind of tackles that in that it's not just Morty's who are in this lower class. There's there's ricks who who have been put into like a low-class situation And they are also fighting against it and it's like it's everyone it affects everyone like The broken system the difference between like ricks and Morty's like that does make sense on a racial basis because like they're like here Like there's an obvious biological difference And then of course you've got Mike my favorite character in this episode like cop Morty who's a fucking like we'll get to that guy He's my fucking hero only in a sick disgusting twisted way But like but yeah, like you've got him and then but parallel to him is of course the the factory worker Rick who like Despite having you know, he's just as brilliant as every other Rick It's the system that has put him into this slave-wage job and has you know, oppressed his Individuality and his ability to be himself because by surrounding yourself by innumerable other ricks you rob yourself of anything that makes you special as an individual and I mean, that's just one of the many themes that this episode touched on man. There's a lot in this fucking episode There's a lot this episode bounces all over the place Because it obviously wants to make as many statements as it can about this world Yeah, this little world it's introduced as it can before it leaves and I mean this episode is a cluster fuck Like let's not let's get that out of the way, too It is totally a cluster fuck that all works in the best It's it's beautiful organized chaos like it all swirls into meaning in the end And it's like that that final shot of all the devastation that has been wrought and like one day on the Citadel just Specifically by I mean mostly by the villain but really more importantly by the system in place that now that was fucking I don't want to you over you because I'm coots very happy. That's the wrong word, but I feel like using it anyway I'm using it as a meme. I'm using it as the meme version now come to me master. It just means good Yeah, you've ruined it it we ruined it to be fair, but he used it right Yeah, it was just it was just a climactic moment. It was fantastic, you know so Yeah, this this episode is this cap We finally have the return of the plot thread the one important plot thread We've been waiting for the whole show which okay, so the first time I watched Rick and Morty season one I was watching it on the adult swim website, which accidentally played the episodes out of order It goes it went episode one ten eleven and then played the rest The second episode I ever saw was the Council of Rick's episode Which establishes this character so I like all through the show I was expecting there to be like an ongoing plot line because I'd seen that episode But it never you know obviously didn't get brought up again in season one because it was actually episode ten never got Addressed in season two like we still have the Council of Rick's but this evil Morty that was revealed at the end of Season one episode ten has had no callback Until the end of this episode twist which was fucking awesome, you know I didn't see it coming at all That's interesting because as soon as I saw that there was a Morty candidate running for office I immediately knew where it was going. I called the rest of the episode and I didn't know what happened That's interesting. I had no idea. I mean it's good to know that I am that much smarter than you it feels good It feels well after he after he gave his speech. I thought something was up right like there's he's too good And but I was I didn't figure out that it was gonna be him until the fucking song started playing and I was like You mother fucker. We'll see to be fair I I do get where the Trump parallels come from in one dimension because his whole thing was that he was just an absolute like Populist just telling the people what they wanted to hear and totally like abusing the weaknesses of democracy Because he has his own private agenda that I would say he was more like Obama to me. Hey, that's a good point That's a good damn point. He says is like like every word out of his mouth is change and hope Yeah, you know like that's how Obama won was he just kept promising that like You know he he prayed on the fact that people thought the last eight years had been bad And that if we change something it will be good not to mention that Morty is basically from the like repressed minority You know quote-unquote race of this world. Frankly Obama is a perfect parallel. I saw him more as first black president You know, we'll show you like like we've said that the race the racial stuff in this episode isn't is not too direct But like the most obvious parallel is Morty is Morty's are black, you know, of course And like so for him to be the first Morty president is like, okay This is first black president, you know, like to me it looked like a big Obama parallel and you know a lot of people would say When Obama got in office, it was basically, you know, like nothing really changed Yeah, especially now that we can look back at his legacy We can bear witness to like the dealings he made with the financial system and like the elites at the expense of the lower People not to mention his record number of deportations of the immigrants that everyone thinks for some reason that Obama was a champion of But actually wasn't and and not to mention the countless drone strikes that he you know did way more than any prison in history If you if anybody if you're really woke, you know, they're all the same. Yeah, all of them are the same Sufo is the only political party that knows the truth. Shut up. Fuck off So yeah, but yeah, I would say again. I don't think it speaks to any one Situation or candidate. This is just the whole system. This is what the system is This is what it means to have a system. Correct is that the smart people are going to abuse it and the other like anyone underneath them is going to be just Slotted in somewhere you're slotted into society wherever you happen to fit and if you're not satisfied with that You are just gonna have a shit life, you know. Yep. Yep, and yeah this It's for me the most like what I was kind of stuck on throughout the whole episode was just like Looking at a Rick in a position there in and going like how does one end up like how does a Rick get here? But then I thought about it and like Like how does any of us get where we are? It's just the circumstances of our birth, right? You're right. I wouldn't say that Like like you might think Okay, we work we're in a I don't want to say an intellectual job, but a job that involves thinking right right like we're we we analyze things We pull it apart. We're obviously not as smart as scientists. We're not as smart as as other But then you have to wonder well some of those scientists aren't really that smart. They just studying more They just have an aptitude for science, you know, but maybe they're dumb about everything else Well, what about a guy who's a blue-collar worker who might be smarter than us, but he just doesn't want to do Frufru bullshit on the internet. He'd rather fucking do something meaningful that helps the world You know like like like the dirty jobs mentality of like this is a job that has to get done. I'm proud to do it so like When you think about it people You know the fact that they're all Rick It's it's not about being Rick. It's about what happened to Rick Hey, that's exactly what happened to Rick within his life You know the first Rick we're like introduced to in this episode is one called simple Rick Yeah, who realized at some point that his daughter was the most important thing to him and never became a super scientist And so they captured him and replay his memory on loop And extract his fluids and put it in a candy so that you can taste what it feels like to be a simple person Which when they bring that back at the end of the episode that was one of my biggest like Standing ovation moments of the season so it was incredible It was incredible and I knew it was coming that one I did seek like as soon as the guy came like the Willy Wonka Rick came in and was talking to him I was like, what is this guy's angle and then as he's taking him out. I'm like, oh, no Oh, no, and then you hear the voice over and it's like, you know, this Rick staged an uprising. I was like, oh Oh Fucked out man cycle never ends. That was some 1984 shit right there. Yeah, yeah some real fucking big brother shit Yeah, there's there's a lot the cop you want to talk about cop cop Rick and Morty Yeah, they were they were I mean it was cool that we see we see a Rick as like the plucky Up-and-coming like youngling to the to the experienced savvy Morty who you know is basically More or less turned against his own kind, you know again if you want to make like the the black parallel He's just like a black. He's like um like ten penny from San Andreas from from GTA San Andreas Who just like hates the people that he like is forced to protect and just wants to like I mean with our guy here with Our with our cop Morty He just doesn't give a fuck and he is just completely jaded to the system and like as we see throughout the episode We'll just happily kill Morty's who he views as like unworthy of of you know Participating in the system or whatever because he has to you know They work in Morty town or like Morty slumber whatever it's called just dealing with the dregs society and Yeah, like his jaded attitude and then of course there's a little bit of Sort of redemption at the end of the episode where there's like that little spark where he think that like his partners unwilling It was just yeah, I think he was fucking with him I mean obviously he turned he does try to kill you know like good Rick at the end there and it fails So I think there was a spark in there I think well, you know because just based on all the stuff we saw this episode It feels like everyone here is miserable trapped in this system except the people at the very top Everyone's just fucking forced into this role. They don't really want so I feel like cop Cop Morty's like cry of desperation was real But then also was his attempt to murder his own partner to get away with being a corrupt cop You know perpetuating the system and that's that's the crime man perpetuating the system is the one crime that that's it's like The biggest it's the biggest problem, you know, you can't enable the shit to continue and now we're just talking about like real life shit That's where it's that's the thing this episode felt like real life shit That's why I got fucking emotional after watching it It was like I don't know if I want to watch that again because it fucking was hard You know I had to watch it again because the narrative was so great and I loved all the characters I Would say this is the roughest episode of Rick and Morty for me it's so far I mean there was no one one's but this one's like oh like because there's yeah There's no there's no real levity in this episode like it's funny. It's entertaining, but it's more of like it's funny and more of a Oh shit kind of way, you know like it's never like haha funny joke It's more like all you fucking bastards like again the the Rick cycle where the When the guy is then hooked up to the chair to be the new source of Candy like that is a dark dark joke. That is a bleak joke, you know So there's never a moment of like just a fun ha ha joke. It's all like oh You know damn and and there's lots of like really good dialogue in this episode Like there's so there's one Morty who's been literally program. He's an experimental Morty Program to be dramatic like he's like more to be like Morty as he puts it To make you sad and kind of bored But then like his line where they're like he says He says like I want you know I want the system to be fixed on the Citadel like I want things to be good here and the other kids Because he's at he's at a wishing well We have to throw in something important in order to get your wish and He says I want things to be good here And they're like you better throw in something really important and he said well I hope so and he jumps in and like as soon as I hope so but I doubt it But I doubt it. Yeah, I hope so but I doubt it and when he said the line and knew what he was gonna do And it was just like oh fuck that's such a Fucking powerful man that whole thing incidentally was a parallel to the film stand by me if you're familiar That yeah, I caught the stanchion that was stand by me the cop thing is probably I mean there's multiple stories that are like that the one that comes to my mind is training day You know because it's the same kind of like the Rick cop is not just a starry-eyed You know like he he learns quickly He's quick on his feet and like he will shoot someone if he has to you know Like he can he has the power in him to do that and when he fucking You know kills his partner at the end. He's just like same old story. Yeah, Rick's killing Morty's and it's just like Yeah, it's fucking real oh That of course we haven't talked about the the campaign running Morty, you know the other kind of wage slave Morty guy He was sort of the other Kind of tied into the main plot there So there's just another guy sort of sort of similar to the to the candy making Rick as I gave them a little name So it's a campaign Morty there campaign manager for the the Morty who's trying to run for office And of course, it's I mean we're gonna get to it, but I love the whole It's just so brilliant to me This is the exact perfect way for like evil Morty to seize control through like this kind of system Like there's no way I mean I would have been hugely like I bra raising skeptical if this Morty had like somehow through force Taken over the system here and in fact by one curiosity at the end of the episode was through what exact force is Like is president Morty controller? You know evil Morty controlling the ricks that just like assassinate a bunch of the business leaders of the world like the Illuminati members Is it just his presidential authority? I guess that's pretty good I would assume they just worked for him already, you know like yeah, he's offering them something You know, yeah, he must be he must be they they pair we don't know what his angle is yet, right? Like because I couldn't tell if his aim is to perpetuate the system But under Morty rule or if it's to change the system in some way to benefit himself It's hard to say because at the end like the the council the the the Rick business council are all people who say you know We we were the real ones running things from behind the scenes even before right So for Morty to assassinate all of them means that now there is an opportunity for a full stop change Yeah, since both the real council of ricks and the The you know see CEO ricks are all dead, but who knows what he's trying to do We can end out we can at least infer from the way that he has gotten into this position and killing these people You know in the way he did and being willing to manipulate the system in this way that he certainly does not mind sacrificing pawns on his on his way to the top So and he I mean the the main thing that's been brought up about this Morty is that he has this weird Like receiver thing under his eye, right, which makes me think that he's either Doing this all under like either a ricks command or maybe he's a Rick in disguise Maybe like there's something about this Morty that he's not quite just Morty. That's true. That's true I really hope that he's not I really would hate it if it turned out that there was a Rick behind all this I want this to be the one Morty who has some special spark that makes him You know equal to a Rick. I mean, I don't know what the receiver thing is, but maybe he's a robot or something Yeah, maybe there's something about this one that he can push things into his eyeballs If you remember, I think the the his like the the quote-unquote evil Rick that we first met him under that turned out To be a robot as I recall so like we don't actually know who his Rick originally was So maybe they're like so his Rick is unaccounted for and you know, there's always a Rick to every Morty So that was certainly something that I want to know about Yeah, there's a lot there's a lot going on with this guy and I don't know if we'll get any more answers this season They might be playing the really long game with this particular mystery, you know I just this was so satisfying the way they doled it out. So like yeah I was waiting for it for a long time and I was I was you know, just Desperate for it, but like to then have it sprung upon you in such a brilliantly written way in such a satisfying way Kind of makes it it maybe if not completely worth it, but like just now that we've got it feels so much better for it Yeah Yeah, it's good stuff, man Well, is there any other things you have I written down or anything any other stuff you want to address about this episode? Um, I think there was actually um, oh Oh, oh, I remember the one other thing that I'm interested in is I'm really wondering What is going to be the event that there's got to inevitably a clash with with evil Morty here? And I'm I'm just really excited to see our Morty who who has been previously established At least possibly to be the most Morty Morty or the Prime Morty or whatever it was the good Morty Yeah, that's a fair way to frame it. I'm very interested to see him Do something and even in this very episode like at the very beginning You know, you can just feel Morty beginning to strain at the bonds of like when they're like, yeah You know, he's talking back to Rick's more and the whole his increasing nihilism as we've been going through the series Just showing a maturity of the character. I'm very interested to see I definitely have the feeling that the final Confrontation of Rick and Morty will be between the two Morties it seems that way to the good Morty the ultimate good versus the ultimate evil Morty and You know and maybe Rick I don't know what Rick will do but like that that is definitely gonna be He'll be coming down to I think I think building up both of these morties to be to have a showdown And you know, it's great. You know, it's great about this while Rick is like a master of like technology and time and space And a literal God like what's the one thing that Rick is just bullshitted dealing with it's dealing with people And that's the one thing that politics like politics is control over people That's the one avenue that Morty could excel at that Rick just has has no luck with so by like controlling the council of Rick's and You know playing his cards, right? I totally can understand how a Morty could actually get this kind of leverage It's been shown to us in a thousand ways how Rick is a total fuck-up at managing his relationship So it just I just I'm just so satisfied with it And the fact that it is relevant to our culture and even our current political climate is just like a cherry on top And it's fascinating and great. It's brilliant writing All right, everybody catch you next week. Hope it's as good as this one doubtful of that, but we'll see Always been it's been a bunch of good episodes. That's true. I think so. Yeah looking forward to it. Bye everybody. Bye. Bye