 Hey guys, it's Nate A.K. The Foot Account and welcome back to the channel. We are talking icons specifically today and icon moments because those cards are coming very soon in FIFA Ultimate Team and I wanna talk about how they're gonna impact the market just like Prime Icons did in December. Icon moments are gonna be introduced onto the game this year in a few weeks. Either this Friday, next Friday or both and they're gonna impact the market because a lot of these icon moments it's gonna even be bigger fluctuations and bigger price movements than we saw with Prime Icons in December because these icon moments cards have dynamic images. They have insane boosted stats if they do it like they did last year in FIFA 20 and there's new icons this year, right? Puskas, you've got Fernando Torres, you've got Eto, Lam, Schweinsteiger and we all are very curious to know what their Prime Icon moments cards are going to look like. Last year we even had Icon moments cards with weak foot upgrades. Rush had a weak foot upgrade on his Icon moments over his other cards that were in the game. So specifically talking about the market as well, I wanna talk about how these guys are gonna be really expensive day one. They're gonna be supplied not a lot but a lot of people are gonna wanna try and get them especially with the way the market is right now with a lot of these Prime Icons being more expensive than they ever have been in past FIFA's with so many more coins in the game this year. I just wanna talk us through how these cards might react a little bit differently this year and how the Prime Icon moments could be even more expensive this year than last year and what their movements could be day one because there's gonna be a lot of stuff going on and of course the mid icons are going out of packs as well. We have to talk about are they gonna be rising out of packs with the amount of coins in the market again this year but we're also in the second half of the game where a lot of cards just continue to slide downward in price so we'll kinda talk through some of those things as well in the video but first of all I just wanna again remind you of what happens on day one when you have crazy new icons that are in packs they're brand new they don't have a lot of supply I wanna show you some of the crazy prices that you might see this is from my video last year when Icon moments came out Carl Puyol Icon moments card 1.7 million coins is what this card was selling at last year I think even later in the video I mentioned that a Prime Icon moments like Thierry Henri or something like that had sold for crazy high amounts oh it was a Prime Icon moments Rio it was a Prime Icon moments Rio last year from FIFA 20 that sold for a crazy crazy price 6 million coins for a Prime Icon moments Rio so let's take a look at some of these FIFA 20 icons and some of the FIFA 21 icons and again talk about how you're gonna see these movements happen on day one like we do see here right like I showed you the Puyol right 1.7 million coins I actually traded with Puyol this year when Prime Icons came out because what happens is and this is the number one thing I wanna talk about too when these Prime Icon moments are gonna come out on the market everybody's gonna be oozing on over the upgrades how good they look the position changes maybe some of the weak foot or skill move upgrades the people that have very high coin balances are gonna be involved in this and it's also just really cool for the whole entire market as a whole a lot of you guys may not have the coin budgets to mess around with Icon moments cars where you think they're gonna be crazy crazy high value but I also remember last year in FIFA 20 where I was trading with a Prime Icon moments Clivert and Prime Icon moments Keen on that first weekend and they were somewhere around like the 800,000 coin 900,000 coin range which a lot of people can afford and a lot of people will try to get into especially post-team of the year when this market has a lot of coins but I wanna share my specific experience with this Carlos Puyol card from earlier this year on the Prime Icon release date I bought a Carlos Puyol at 1 million coins flat on the Friday when they released these guys into packs on the second lightning round because I watched the Carlos Puyol sell for 1.2 million coins during the first lightning round so what happened was I bought this card in the middle thought I was gonna get the quick flip at about 1.15 and what actually happened was the undercuts kept coming in because this guy yes he was brand new he was a new Icon and you know it was very overpriced for where his card is now and for his card would be but that's the potential flips that you have now for me it didn't work out I ended up selling for like 850,000 coins I lost big that day on that Carlos Puyol but there were also big time flips people were buying like Prime Toe I remember I almost typed in Prime not Etoe people were buying these Prime Icons for crazy prices but also flipping them for even crazier prices and I want to talk about what happens in those first couple hours because just like we see with promo cards on a Friday what you know EA is always kind of messing with the pack weight and especially with Icons it feels like EA is just kind of introducing them onto the market I wish we really knew where all these Icons are coming from because on day one when the new Prime Icons actually came out it honestly didn't seem like all of these guys were getting packed because it seemed like their supply would come in batches right you know one or two every 10 minutes and then three would come in the span of five minutes where yes you could say somebody might have packed it and EA might have put that into somebody's account and be a pack but it also seems like some of these Prime Icons have a lot of supply right away just because EA wants to get them on the market and almost seems like they artificially supply them at times but that also makes for great fluctuations on the meta icons that people want to try out so like this Garencha card right it's 2.8 million coins that's one of the points that I want to make is that day one Icon moments Garencha I'm not sure what he was last year but Icon moments Garencha is probably going to be an absurdly expensive way crazy price I believe last year was a 95 rated right wing and he had a lot of fight Brazilian links right wing they juice up the stats for the icon moments as well and I just want you to know that there's going to be fluctuations on that first day that you're going to see in the first hour right you're going to see some stuff move up and down you're going to see some real this happen but then also what you're going to see is since it's a Friday on FIFA you're going to see that stuff get rare and kind of that first hour you might see them start at max price get a couple listings dip down you'll see a couple crazy undercuts and you'll be able to actually buy on those crazy undercuts and then sell in the next 30 minutes to an hour even minutes after with the fluctuations back up so you kind of have to look for a few things when you're looking at these new icon moments when you want to trade with them day one the ones that I would 100% keep an eye on are going to be the brand new icons this year of FIFA 21 it's risky trading but it's fun trading now imagine what a prime icon moments LAM is going to look like they can make it 93 rated and a center defensive mid card boost is physical up to like 7 mid to high 70s boost is paced to possibly 90 is dribbling and passing can be up to 90 as well that's the kind of boost that you could see on some of these icon moments now some people are saying they didn't juice team of the years this year why would they boost icon moments while icon moments are different right EA knows that there's a lot of coins on this year's game and they know that the hype with icons this year is even higher than ever with how expensive these cards are and that people are going to pay Bukku bucks for a guy like a prime moments eto imagine a 93 eto with even more juiced stats than this right imagine like 95 96 shooting 97 pace 85 passing 93 dribbling stuff like that is what you could see on some of these prime icon moments and people are going to want to get their hands on them again especially the new ones right especially I meant to type in Schweinsteiger right there especially the brand new icons FIFA 21 people are going to be curious to see what their moments are and of course as EA has said as well the moments items might not always be the same now I know the Ronaldinho moments card was different from FIFA 19 to FIFA 20 it might be different for Ronaldinho this year too right he had a 95 center attacking mid moments last year maybe it was 96 I kind of forget he might have a left wing prime icon moments this year what they do is they go to a specific time in that icons career and they make the stats based on that so that's one thing I really want to mention is if you do want to trade there are going to be major major fluctuations in the first one to three hours as they get packed they get supplied and then they rebound and people have coins ready and they want to try out those new icon moments but for the rest of the market if you don't want to do that kind of crazy trading what's going to happen with like panic selling what's going to happen with icons that are impacts now and their prices I want to talk about that as well because the last year there were only like a couple cards panic selling on one of those was Maldini this 94 Maldini last year was bouncing between like 4.4 and like 5.1 million coins is very very rare card fluctuating around in the weekends and even during the week as he was very very rare but you see this start of decline right you see the start of the decline on some of these prime icons cards after the moments come out moments last year came out on February 14th take a look at this right the week before 5 million coins dropping all the way down to 3.8 and then continually dropping throughout the rest of the year as the moments Maldini card was on the market and dropping in price as well but look at this upgrade right a plus one but he's got plus three defense plus two pace plus four shot two passing one dribbling and two physical that's a solid upgrade right really really solid upgrade as you can tell this guy was in the 13 mil range and then of course continued dropping off throughout the rest of the year seven mil seven mil six mil and stuff like that that's the normal trend for these icon moments cards way sometimes they're so expensive that the cards underneath them either maintain a certain price like the same price or they drop lower take a look at Rio Ferdinand now we saw what happened with Maldini right Maldini's card took a big hit and then kept dropping as the moments card dropped let's take a look at prime Rio versus moments Rio prime Rio on February 14th was 1.4 million coins prime icon moments Rio when he came out was five mil dropped down to three mil and then boom the week after that he's down to 2.6 that gap closed real quick from being like three million coins apart down to a million coins so what happens boom February 21st is when that gap got close this card drops from 1.4 to 1.3 continues dropping down in the 1.2 1.1 range as the moments Rio drops down into the under two mil range like as we get towards team this season so the natural trend for a lot of these icon moments is again a downward slope just like it is for the prime icons right here for Rio right boom all the way down with the team of the year rebounded a little bit and then of course going into team this season foot birthday actually last year he dropped even more so I don't think if it's a very very meta and a very very popular icon like this year in FIFA 21 you know you've got guys like eto and cantonado that are going to have their first ever prime icon moments but you still have guys like prime butra guanio prime for Dan again is example fight prime Fernando Torres his icon moments card this year is going to be cracked decide these cards are very desirable right people like to use these cards their moments ones are going to be expensive you're probably going to see the same kind of market movement happen with these now you might see panic selling on some of these cards as we head into the actual release date whenever these icon moments are coming out which could be this Friday which is why I'm trying to get you know this in your minds earlier than later you might start to see a little bit of panic selling but if it's a very very meta card like if it's a mid icon mid seed or for example or even even this like prime decide if you'd see him drop 100 to 200,000 coins heading into this Friday if people start selling icons because they expect the icon moments to drop the price you're going to see the prices bounce back on these primes because people on that Friday are not going to be able to afford the icon moments for most of these cards yes you could say that people would sell some cards to go buy the new moments versions but predominantly if it's a meta card that a lot of people like to use it's a popular icon then what you're going to see is a drop a little bit of panic selling or none at all and then that price is going to kind of say the same until that moments card gets cheaper and just drops that card in general so that's I don't think you have to be really worried about selling a lot of cards before the icon moments come the only ones that I would be a little bit worried about would be a guy like that Maldini who's still five million coins this year whose prime moments cards going to come out and be very expensive but still probably has some room to drop maybe some other icons that are primes this year that are a little overpriced even real Ferdinand 1.98 million coins he was 1.4 last year that we looked right Ferdinand Torres is 1.75 Kakaz 1.7 Carl Soberto 1.64 like a lot of these icons are still pretty expensive and you might see especially the ones that aren't as desirable or just people aren't willing to pay the big price for them you might see them dip off even right away or in this next week when the icon moments come so I know not a lot of people are thinking about icon moments right now like you know 100% but I did want to kind of mention that and those fluctuations that you could see with them now mid-icons I want to talk about this a little bit too mid-seed or from last year right even though you think yo mid-icons going out of packs you know I could be a potential for these guys to rise because they get rare in reality what it looks a lot of these cards don't really rise after they go out of packs they just become rare and they fluctuate a little bit more look at this Figo card right goes out of packs boom right here 645 he stays about the same still dropping down like 30 40 K but he probably just fluctuates a lot better on the market think about prime icons this year right if you like to trade or sorry baby icons base icons have gotten rare right they've they've risen a lot after the team of your promotion which happened last year as well they're still going to be rare because they're out of packs and some of them are still very desirable some of the base icons are the best versions of that certain icon in FIFA so all that's going to happen is those mid icons are going to start to get rare they're going to be fluctuating on the market just like the babies do and especially if it's a icon at the mid version is um is like the most desirable so again like a Seedorf card right this middle Seedorf is like 1. .2 million coins and the prime Seedorf I think is like 900 K the base Seedorf is like 700 K or 800 K right so this is the most desirable version of Seedorf and it's probably going to stay that way it's probably going to stay that way he's not you know you drive he might drop a little bit but I can moments Seedorf if it's going to be the same as last year is probably going to start off at like four or five million coins then drop down in the two million coin range after like a couple weeks making this card still like the best value Seedorf I guess you could say on the market and of course it's going out of pack so again with the amount of coins on the market this year I think you might see some mid icons like a Seedorf maybe a mid Macalely or mid petite even some of the most you know meta overpowered mid icons that people like to use if that version of that icon is one of the best or it's at a price point where there's a lot of a gap between the mid or the prime like Kenny dog leash is one point four dog leash is prime you really got to shell out the big bucks for dog leash is prime who's around two point three two point four million coins so there's like a nine hundred K price difference there that may cause that middle version if that icon is so desirable and the prime doesn't drop too much to get closer to the mid you might see that mid version kind of bounce back up a little bit so I know that's a lot of theory a lot of thinking about icons and again I don't think you have to be worried about just maybe on some of the really really top tier icons even like prime are nine you might see a little bit of selling a car like this 13 million coins right now you might see him drop down to like 11 but moments are nine it's going to be extinct for a while right moments you said yo probably going to be extinct for a bit just like last year the moments cards are going to come on the market they're going to make an appearance for a tiny bit at 15 million coins for some of the best cards out there but like moments Puskoss man I don't know what moments Puskoss is going to be because this guy's you know 3.4 million coins but the moments version of this card is going to be if EA juiced it up this is going to be ridiculous so I'm not entirely sure what some of these cards are going to look like or can't turn out right a new icon this year Fernando Torres again the new icons this year in FIFA that's like the biggest question mark for me is what are those icon moment cards going to look like but again day one even that first weekend the first couple days with these icon moments they're going to be bouncing around a lot right with lightning round supply with people trying them out and wanting to be able to play with those brand new cards they're going to bounce around for those players that are on higher budgets so I just want to get you prepared for that I want you to be confident in the ability that you have to flip those icons right because if you see a big undercut and it's a very popular icon and it's day one and you know that people are still going to be buying that car to try it out later that night for weekend league don't be afraid to pull the trigger so that's all I'm saying big time fluctuations I don't think you'll see a lot of panic selling at least on most of the icons and if you do they should bounce back because the market's healthy there's a lot going on and there's a lot of coins on this game too so watch out for that later this week on the market now I know that's a lot of theory and stuff again but if you have any questions drop them down below because icons are tricky but they're fun and they always have value in FIFA because of their links and because they just are icons right they're legends of the game that are in FIFA so if you enjoyed this video smash the thumbs up on it and of course subscribe to the channel if you are new it's been Nathan Foot Account and I'll catch you guys later peace out