 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. What's up everybody? It's Mind Pump, your favorite fitness and health podcast. Now I'm one of the hosts and I'm still self quarantine. There's only two more episodes that you're gonna hear where I'm calling in from the phone and then I get to see my best friends in person again to record in our studio. But anyway, in this episode, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners like you. And the way we open the episode is by talking with each other about our lives. We talk about the current events. We mentioned our sponsors. So here's the rundown of what we talked about in this episode. Now we started by talking about the stimulus package that was passed by Congress. That's supposed to help us all out with the economic repercussions of this coronavirus pandemic. Then we talked about a guy who started an airplane company last week so he could get a $10 million bailout. Brilliant, brilliant. We talked about the neural link. Elon Musk is saying that that's moving ahead. We talked about Tiger King on Netflix. That is a crazy, crazy show. We talked about the presidential election and what that may look like if we're all still stuck at home. We talked about rise supplements and how they're crap. We talked about one of the fears of the internet. I guess they're talking about how some companies are just can't handle the bandwidth now that everybody's at home streaming videos and stuff like that. And then we talked about companies that are doing really well during the shutdown. One of them is Magic Spoon. Now Magic Spoon makes kid-like cereals. So they taste like kid cereals, but they're high in protein, very high in protein, way protein in fact, and they're very low in sugar. In fact, there's no sugar. 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So take advantage of this promotion, go to maps white.com. That's M-A-P-S-W-H-I-T-E.com and use the code white 50 for the discount. That's W-H-I-T-E-5-0 without a space. Hey, so I have to correct something that we were wrong on that we talked about, I think, yesterday or the day before. Impossible. No. I know. Well, I wasn't wrong. You were wrong. I was wrong. Yeah, so I have to correct it for sure, right? Ha, ha, ha. Adam's been waiting for a moment like this. No, no. So remember, I told you the $2 trillion bill that just got passed, that is the largest stimulus package in history. It was more than 2008. Wow. So this is the most we've ever seen in history. And on that note, I like, I was, what is it? I'm gonna give the credit to, oh, the Hustle did this. I thought this was really cool. The Hustle actually broke down what's allocated to what out of the $2 trillion stimulus package. So individuals and families, it'll be dispersed, $301 billion to direct assistance. So individuals who earn less than $75,000 a year will get a $1.2,000 check. 1.2,000? Yeah. So $1,200. That's how they wrote it. Families will receive- Sounds like a lot. Families will receive, yeah, that's probably what they wrote that way. Families will receive an additional $500 per child. Assistance decreases for people who earn greater than $75,000 a year and stops for those who earn $99,000 plus a year. So if you make a hundred grand a year, fuck, you don't get nothing. Two, 350 billion in loans are earmarked for small businesses. So they'll be available through June 30th and forgiven for businesses that keep paying their employees. So companies with less than 500 employees can access loans up to 10 million to pay their staff. But many small businesses say they're already running into problems getting financial assistance and say they could go under before the new rescue money is dueled out. Number three, unemployed workers will get 250 billion in benefits. So unemployment assistance will increase by $600 for the next four months. Benefits will extend for an additional 13 weeks and will apply to non-traditional employees like gig workers. And then for 500 billion in loans and other aid will be set aside for corporations, states and local governments. So 454 billion of the money will be available through a fund controlled by the Federal Reserve. Oh yeah, we trust them. The rest will be set aside for specific industries including 29 billion for passenger and cargo airlines. Geez. State and local governments will get 150 billion when news of the deal broke yesterday that Dow Jones rose more than 11%. Wow, you know, this is so crazy. It's like, for example, you think of the loans that they're gonna give to businesses and if they keep paying their employees, they get forgiven. How are they gonna control all that? And I feel like that's such a, that could be something that could be totally taken advantage of. Oh yeah. And it will just like any welfare, right? It's like, there's gonna be people that absolutely need it and deserve it and use it to keep themself just to float in their head above water and survive and keep their employees. And then there'll be many that- Not just shucksters out there. We'll take advantage of it. Like I said, like you see with welfare. Well, so hear me out, right? So I read an article that I thought was satire. I thought it was a joke, but it's actually true. And quite a few people have done doing it. So there was a man in Indiana who started an airline company last week so that he could get $10 million bailout. No, no. He did not. Yeah, now I thought, oh, this is a joke. There's no way. No, it's real. And he's not the only one. He's not alone. There have been 25 new airline companies started in the past week and over 50 cruise ship companies. Oh, that's some bullshit, bro. So, I mean, so smart though. I mean, you just, what do you do? You go buy, you buy four planes. Yeah, but can't you check the date of when they formed a company and be like, no, like this is complete bullshit. It's hilarious. Half of these companies are headquartered in Florida. And the other half in Bermuda. So they interviewed this guy. So this guy is purposely doing this and he's not lying about it. You know what he called his airline company? What? Bailout flights. No, he did not. Just straight up. This isn't from the onion. This has to be, dude. No, this is a real, he's actually doing this. And he says, this is no joke. They interviewed him. I swear to God, I'm reading this article right now. And I think he's doing it on purpose to try to kind of make fun of the whole thing. Or come up on four or five planes. Well, that's what he says. They interviewed him and it said that he already has planes, what he wants, plans, excuse me, what he wants to do with the $10 million paycheck. They interviewed him. They said, what are you going to do with your $10 million if you get a bailout? He says, hookers and booze. He didn't say that. Yes, he did. Who is this guy? Wow. But again, there's been 25 new airline companies started in the past week as soon as they heard, you know, as soon as people hear free money. Yeah, there was rumors of the cruise lines. And the airlines would have to be bailed out because again, too big to fail, right? Yeah. So soon as people started hearing that probably three weeks ago, whenever it started. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what a smart strategy though. You go buy two planes on credit, you know, and before your first credit card payment is due, you've already got a stimulus package out that bails your company out because you have a quote unquote airline business that's never probably flown a single person for a freaking anywhere, but because you started it up before the bailout, you now can get your probably your $10 million that you can now pay off your jet. That's crazy to me. This guy's just straight calling it out. Look how easy it is, you know, like just like out in the open with it. That's hilarious. But I mean, it's an extreme example of like what's, you know, that's a very extreme example, but how many people are gonna take advantage of the trillions of dollars that's going out? Yeah, that's the unfortunate part. Oh, so many people are gonna take advantage of it. It's like what they're doing right now, Arthur Brooks used a great analogy, he said it's like they're flying a helicopter above us and just throwing money out to try and fix the problem. And, you know, I get why they're doing it. I definitely think that in many cases, this is probably gonna be a good thing, but, you know, all these bailouts of industries and all this money, it's not gonna be without its own repercussions. You know what I mean? It's not like you're gonna, it's not like there's no side effects to this medicine that we're taking. Because I mean, where's this money coming from? It's literally... Where's the value of our dollar gonna be after all this? It's printed out of thin air. So, you know, I think that maybe investing in like gold is probably gonna be a good idea because, you know, what happens when the dollar goes down? I don't know, but so many governments are doing this. Is it even gonna matter? Oh, yeah. Will it just bring everybody down at the same time? Yeah. Yeah, it's the whole world, you know. It's crazy. I know in some, God, where was it? I can't remember where it was. I think it might have been San Francisco where they're trying to pass a law where everyone's gonna get 90 days of rent forgiveness. So that's one thing. I know in Italy, they were mortgage companies were letting people not pay their mortgages for the next couple, you know, months. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah, but there's gonna be some repercussions to all of this. It's gotta be. I think I read that unemployment or claims or something like that is like the largest ever. Ever. Yeah, it just surpassed, it surpassed 08s. Big credit surpassed Great Depression times. Like it's been, the unemployment rate went up so hard and so fast in just a matter of two weeks. It was three, I think three million is what a file for unemployment. I think the highest before that was like 200 something thousand all time highest, I think it was 600 something thousand. Do you guys find yourself, I'm sure I'm not the only one. Do you guys find yourself going back and forth between like, this is the right thing to do. We gotta do this and oh shit, we're gonna cause more problems. Like this is worse. All the time, yeah. I'm wrestling with it back and forth. Like, you know, how are they gonna remedy all this? Especially the economic impact. Well, the truth is I recognize this is far above my pay grade as much as I love economics and I like paying attention to that. I have no idea what's gonna happen. I have no idea if this is the right move or it's the worst move. Yeah. You know, like it's hard to say. It sounds pretty fucking scary though to just infuse $2 trillion into our economy and hopes and I like Arthur Brooks analogy, it is. It's just like dumping it out of the plane and hoping that the right people get a hold of it. But in reality, a lot of people that don't need it or shouldn't get it and a lot of it's probably gonna go to waste and you have to ask yourself what will that, what will the ramifications be from that? Well, meanwhile, Elon Musk is still operating at full speed and innovating and doing crazy things. Did you see like, so Tuesday I guess he announced that by next year he's gonna be able to implant a chip for this neural link into human beings and he's already done this with a monkey successfully and the monkey's been able to control a computer with his neural link. So that's pretty insane. Like I'm, and of course his whole motivation with this is to basically get ahead of this whole AI thing and the scare like he wants us to be able to have this symbiotic relationship with it, with this neural link thing, but the early adopters, man, like who's gonna like take that chance right now? That just seems so crazy and out there for me. Dude, it sounds like end of times, like it started with a plague, you know? Yeah, right. It's crazy thing and then all of a sudden now we're advancing to new levels we've never seen. You know, I don't know. We've been watching Westworld and it makes me think too, like obviously they make an extreme like, oh shit, this is how bad it could get. But then there's another part of me too that like when you're that far in the future and you're looking back at even our time and how we like freak out about kids being on social media and texting all the time and no one calls or talks to each other. I mean, is it just the natural progression of this is how communication will be done in the future? You know, we'll just be able to have these neural links in our head and we could all be just looking at each other and you can read my thoughts. I can read your thoughts and you have the ability to have connections to people across the world and have those conversations as if they're in your head instantaneously. Like is that bad or is it just the natural progression of like how communication is slowly starting without so quickly starting to evolve in the last few decades? I don't know if it's good or bad but because it's so radically different it's gonna present unforeseen challenges. Any time that we have an invention that fundamentally- That's with everything though, right? Yeah, but some things are much more, some things are bigger changes than others. For example, like the birth control pill, for example, separated the fear of pregnancy with sex and it gave that power to women and a lot of people and after that, you saw a lot of relationship issues between men and women and I'm not saying it was a good or a bad thing, I'm just saying it posed completely new challenges and some people would say that divorce rates spiked and that was kind of part of it, it was part of the growing pains of it, getting or connecting through the internet and having access to all that information without, that's like unprecedented. It's game changer. Yeah, it's gonna completely change the way that we do business, the way that we learn, the way that we interact with people have relationships, it's across the board. So this is one of those things that has the potential to really just completely recreate the environment around us. It's gonna be interesting. Well, I feel like there's already examples of us starting to do that. It's just the one step closer, right? Like what do you do right now that you couldn't do just a decade or two ago, two decades ago for sure? You're in an argument with your buddy and whether it be political, whether it be sports and you guys are debating something back and forth via text, what are you doing between every text message? You're fucking, yeah, you're researching, you're Googling as fast as you can. You're gonna know it, right? Right, right, you're already Googling all the things to rebuttal what you think he's already, so the difference is now you just have this hyper speed connection to that. Like I can access that information faster. I'm already doing that though. So is it that radically different or is it getting just more efficient? So here's along those lines, right? So here we are, we're looking things up on the internet. You would think that if you were to go back 50 years and say we'd have access to all the information ever recorded, then we would think, oh, arguments are gonna be settled super fast, people are gonna, it's not gonna be a problem. We're gonna have all the information. But the opposite is true. You and your friend argue or debate over something. He goes and finds three articles that support what he's saying. I go and find three that support what I'm saying. And we just dig our heels in the dirt. To stalemate, yeah. Yeah, so I mean. Sure on philosophical debates, but when you're debating hard facts that are mathematical or scientific, it'll be a lot more cut and dry and we weren't able to do that. So there's the pros to that. But sure, if you're debating something that's philosophical, it's never going to be, I mean, there's gonna be definitely a strong, supporting information on both sides that will cause consistent. Well, dude, sometimes, but I mean, I don't ever remember a flat earth movement when I was younger. It was, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that was a bad byproduct of YouTube. Yeah, sometimes, that's what I'm saying. I think we think that information is gonna solve all of our problems. And if we could just connect to it faster. I don't think so. There's still gonna be outliers that are just delirious, right? I mean, did you finish Tiger King yet? No, I haven't. Oh, please finish that show. Yeah, that show is just so. It's the hero of this whole stay at home experience. He's my hero. Well, too, it's also an example of how people can just be so out there in their own world. This dude had his own reality TV show that he was creating for himself and literally thought the whole world was paying attention. Meanwhile, the dude who probably had a few hundred, maybe a few thousand people paying attention to what he's doing. But his ego was so inflated. I mean, there's definitely gonna be outliers in every scenario you have. So. Dude, the part where he takes on another husband, it was that young kid, the real tall, lengthy-looking kid. The photo? Yeah. We want to order the photo and hang it around the fireplace, we think. Oh my God, where they're laying down with their shirts off. Oh, dude, did you guys feel bad for the kid? Because I'm looking at this kid and I'm like. You're like so confused. Yeah, you just kept feeding him drugs. He's like, he'll stay. You're not even far enough to see what happens. Wait till you see what happens. Yeah. Oh, it gets worse. His first husband wasn't even gay. Every single episode, they do a great job. Whoever directed it did a phenomenal job. I mean, I guess you couldn't script a crazier story, but they did a really good job about how every episode took a huge turn. Right at the end of just, every episode, you owe a new character is introduced. Everybody's a character, everybody's crazy. It was like across the board. He had so many interesting characters in there that were just had fucked up ideas. Yeah. And so yeah. I can't believe people like that exist. I love it. Yeah, it's fun to watch. It felt like an eight series part of Jerry Springer just never really, you know. And here's your cousin. Who killed your dad and your brother? We can save your arm, or you can just amputate it. Yeah, amputate it. Woo, best decision I've ever made. Hey, so I was reading an article about the election. And I didn't even think about this. If this whole thing is still going on by the time the election is coming around, I didn't even think about this, right? So most votes or a lot of votes happen at booths. Oh yeah. They were talking about having to maybe postpone it. Well, they were also talking about passing, passing something that you could take it virtually now. Yeah. Well. That's part of the debate right now. So that's scary because of hackers and shit, right? Well, they're talking about doing it by mail. You're right, because it was done, the way that it's decentralized now, it's really hard to mess with, you know what I mean? But if it was all virtually, could you imagine the way people, because you remember how people were when Trump won? Or even go back when Bush beat, what's his name? And there were all those debates that had to go to the Supreme Court. Yeah, gore, gore. Yeah, so imagine if it's all virtual and people don't like who won. It was really, really close. They're gonna be like, oh, it was totally faked and oh my God, that could cause some serious problems. But they're talking about maybe doing it by mail because so many of the people that worked to booths are like over 60. Oh yeah. And you know, this could be crazy. And if they postpone it, that would be a bad thing. Yeah, they're not gonna wanna do that. Yeah, they're gonna wanna. No dude. Yeah. Well, what do you think so bad about them postponing it? Oh my God, that would fuel the anti, you know, the side that hates Trump. That's like, he is taking power, he's trying to be king, you know. Like yeah, by changing all these policies and everything. Oh wow. Yeah, I would never want that. I would never, I don't care who the president is, I don't care how much I like them. I would never want anything to get them to justify. Well yeah, it's changing the rules, right? Every four years you're supposed to get, there's an opportunity for the country to put their vote in and say yeah, and you're robbing them of that, right? You're bending the rules. Yeah, you don't wanna take it in the game, it's not. It's never a good idea. I get that, I see what you're saying. No, because yeah, because if that would be, that would set a completely new precedent and then you would see it happen with other presidents, like, oh, we got an emergency right now, the economy's down, or oh, this, you know, we got a terrorist attack, let's, let's this. And then next thing you know, you got some president who's, you know. Just dragging it on, yeah, as long as they can. Yeah, he's 15 years, you know, 16 years like Putin, you know, just remaining in power forever. Yeah. No, that would not. Scary thought. No, you're speaking, you know, speaking of clown world here, you see that Jeremy Bundy is now tied with rise supplements. I'm so glad you brought this up. Yes, dude. You remember we brought up rise supplements like a couple of years ago when they first, and I told everybody that that was a shreds pivot, right? Yeah, yeah. The, you know, SEO marketing manager guy from shreds, when shreds went under, pivoted and opened up rise supplements. And right away, I know Joey Swoll was a part of it. So my guess would be that he's a silent partner who's probably wise enough not to put his name on it, but is invested in it or connect to do it somehow because he was the first knucklehead of the shreds group. You found a new gullible candidate. Yeah, it's like so, so fitting, Bundy I would go with. Some more watermelon BCAs for everybody. Like his ninth supplement company's been tied to since he's been competing. But this is the one. This is the one's gonna stick, dude. This is the one that got me to look like this, actually. You got this. I really hope that guy is saving his money and investing it because his moment in the pan, the splash in the pan moment, that's gonna end at some point and then he's gonna be screwed. So I really hope he's saving his money and taking advantage of this. It happens for a lot of these young guys, man, especially with, and I think we see this, the rise and fall faster now, right? I mean, because you can become famous overnight on social media and go from somebody who's got a few hundred people paying attention to you all of a sudden, millions. Boy, does that really inflate your ego in so many ways and also give you this false perception that you actually know how to run a business because by default, when you have that many eyes on you, I mean, you could be selling anything or doing anything and as long as you're getting a half a percent of a percent on millions of people, you've got a viable income right now. So it gives a lot of these young kids that get that attention, this false perception that they actually could run a legitimate business. So yeah, no, I think you're gonna see a lot of rise and fall and this will be interesting during this time too because I mean, Justin was bringing up to me when we were working out, he's like, dude, do you see like some of the fitness girls that are pivoting to the fan page, to the fans only page right away? No. All over the place, dude. Yeah, yeah, like I was just following people for legit content, for like kettlebell training, whatever. And of course, yeah, they have great bodies or whatever and then they realize, whenever they do a certain pick with their butt, they get way more attention. Next thing you know, I'm looking and they're all kind of directing and funneling you into this like website that they wanna get you to subscribe and see all the extra stuff. You know what I'm like, what? Okay. Justin's all, hey, Justin's like, yeah, no, I'm following them for the exercise technique and form. Yeah. And then. Come on, man, it was legit there for a bit. So I paid the $19.99 to find out if she had more impressive kettlebell moves. They're still doing the good exercises just without clothes. Yeah, right. That's all. No, the IRS has been going after all these, like these types of business, these cam girls and this, whatever. Oh, are they? Yeah, and you know who's reporting them, right? Yeah, trying to tax them. You know who's reporting them? Guys that are angry, they paid six months membership and got to see, like, not what they wanted. Yeah, all these disgruntled, like, exactly. Yeah, of course, of course. Who else would it be? Yeah, all the guys that, she's told me I was her favorite. She's my girlfriend. Yeah, she just got you to pay. Yeah, that's it. That's it, I'm 1-800-IRS, I'm telling them. You're screwed. I won't. Well, I wonder if we will see, I wonder if we'll see a lot of that go under. I mean, you got to think that there's a ton of these girls that aren't paying taxes on this income. I'm sure it's a hustle through, you know, PayPal's and the, which McCall put cash out. Well, it's definitely a way to make money right now. Yeah, like while everybody's at home. Yeah, well, I mean, it's gonna be an interesting to see how many people actually pivot to that. Imagine you're a, you know, hundreds of thousands or millions of people watching you and you're a hot fitness chick, and now suddenly you're confined to home and nobody's buying anything that you're selling. And so, uh-oh, you know, Pornhub's doing well though. So maybe that's, maybe I'll go that direction. Crushing right now, it must be. They're hitting record numbers apparently. They are. People are at home. So did you see that, you know, one of the biggest concerns right now about all of us being home is the bandwidth for the web. Yeah, everybody's using it right now at the same time, think about it. Have you already had issues? I mean, I've already had issues with us streaming Netflix and stuff like that. I'll go, you know, sometimes, like especially when it's like in the five, six o'clock at night, when probably most people are sitting down after dinner to watch a movie or show. You know, sometimes it takes a while for it to load. Phone's really slow in certain times. And it's, I'm sure everybody's starting to feel it getting bogged down. And they're scrambling to find ways to open it up for more traffic and more people. But that's like one of the things. No way. Yes. I haven't noticed any of that. But so what you're saying then is not necessarily like the whole internet, but rather these companies like Netflix who are unable to provide the service to, you know, as many people because, because I mean, the internet was being used like crazy before it was just. Well, it's just so much volume, so much traffic at once. I don't think they've ever had before. And so like the back end, I'm sure is, you know, like it's not running as optimally as it used to. Right. So your company's like, you're saying Netflix, the Sprints, you know, there's all the streaming services. You know, if I understand it correctly, like, you know, they allocate a certain amount of bandwidth that they're utilizing to run their community and they have enough analytics that, oh, we have, you know, 10 million people that are subscribers and users at the average rate of this many hours. Okay, we need this much bandwidth to manage that. But that's getting blown out of the water right now for all these companies because everybody's home and on their phone or on their TV streaming. Yeah, I wonder if Netflix and companies like that, if their revenues are gonna be, if they're going up right now, if they're gonna be making more money because of this, what's going on? Gotta be, dude. Yeah, gotta be. Yeah, I mean, I gotta think the streaming services are killing it, the food delivery services are killing it. Oh, dude, so, you know, I talked to our friend, I don't wanna say their name, I talked to our friend who is an investor with our sponsor Magic Spoon. And they're crushing, they're selling boxes left and right because people are, you know, people are afraid to go to the grocery store and Magic Spoon is kind of comfort food. It's like, it tastes like kid's cereal, but then it's also high in protein. So it's- And it stores well for a long time too, so. Yeah, dude, they're selling like crazy. Did you guys hear what they did in New York City? Yeah, I was gonna have Doug read that. I know, I read the article and then Doug had it. So did you have it in front of you? Yeah, so they teamed up with Rethink Food New York City and the Food Bank of New York City and they donated 20,000 boxes to children in New York who no longer have access to school lunches. That's right, so badass. Yeah, you don't even think of that, right? You don't even, I didn't even consider that, school is out, right? Okay, so kids aren't in school, but a lot of parents rely on the school lunches to feed their kids and so now they're not at school, they're at home, they don't get those school lunches. The parents might be financially strapped on top of it. That's gotta be a real tough situation. So I thought that the fact that Magic Spoon donated 20,000 boxes, that's a lot. No, that's actually one of the big concerns with a lot of public schools right now. I mean, my buddy who's the principal at a public school over in the Valley is that's like one of their biggest stresses is that, I think he told me like over 60% of the students rely on meals one and two from the school. Yeah. Because their household doesn't make enough income to feed the kids three to four times a day, so the schools carry a big part of that burden and so obviously with the school shut down everything going on, they had to pivot and find a way, they're getting food donated and they're out there with trucks and fold out tables and then the kids are still able to come and pick up meals. Dude, kids are gonna be, when school's back in session, Timmy's gonna show up like five pounds of lean body mass, all jacked from his high protein, cereal that he's having, whatever. Ready for recess, man. Yeah, just jacked or whatever. How are your kids doing with all this? I see Justin and Courtney every day, constantly getting onto this kid. Trying to wrangle the kittens around. Well, as the listeners know, I'm self quarantining. I think either tomorrow or Saturday or at the latest Sunday, I'll feel like it's gonna be safe to, cause I'm just being over-cautious, right? To go get the kids, cause they're with their mom right now and she's losing her mind. She's like, dude, she sent me a message and she's like, I think you're fine now. Come get the kids. I can't take this anymore. I can't take this anymore. You know? Yes. Well, the homeschooling's tough. Yeah, it's really tough. Of course, especially if like in your ex's case where she's also still trying to work, right? So I can't imagine trying to work and then I mean, it's a full-time job to be a teacher. So to try and be a teacher and working your job at home and it's not something that's your love and passion, obviously, cause you're not a teacher. I can't imagine how stressful and how many parents are going crazy right now. Yesterday, when Justin's kids were at the table working on their stuff, that I hear them all yell in the dining room, oh my God, a bobcat. And I get up and I walk over the window and there's this bobcat running through the snow, like from our house over to our neighbor's house. And we're all kind of watching it. I actually videoed it. It's all my insta story. But they, this bobcat went into the neighbor's garage. And so we're like, do we go over there and tell him? I think that's the right thing. It would be a nice surprise, you know, going into your car. Oh, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew. Yeah. So Justin had to go over to the neighbor's house. We sent him. We figured that was the right idea if he wanted to. And Justin, first time I met our neighbors, yeah. Justin, what's the bobcat sound? What does it sound like? Whew, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew, whew. It sounds like fucking Donald Duck. I only got a few, you know, noise effects. That's one of them. That sounds, I sort of got, if I heard that, I'd be like, that's a fucking bobcat right now. I know, right? Nailed that. Dude, for sure. I would 100%. No, you know, my daughter's having the most difficult because, you know, I've talked about this before. I always stress to my kids like hard work. So I don't tell them, you know, I try not to say things like, you're so talented. You're so smart. Instead, I say things like, wow, I can see that you really worked hard at that. I can see that you tried hard because I want to emphasize, you know, working hard because, you know, life is going to pose challenges and hard work is having an attitude that you're a hard worker is better than thinking that you're talented. Because at some point that'll get challenged and then, you know, that'll kind of crush you or whatever. But there's a little bit of a drawback to that. And that's that, you know, like my daughter is really demonstrating this. She's like a perfectionist. So if she misses like one thing off of her test or if she, you know, did her homework and forgot something, holy shit, dude. It's like, she won't go to bed. Down city, yeah. She just won't go to bed until she gets it all absolutely perfect. And so I'm like backtracking right now. I'm like taking some steps back and I'm trying to like talk to her about the benefits of, you know, being calm and how to handle stress and how that is gonna, you know, contribute to her success. Like I don't need to push that kid at all. She pushes herself. Wait, and that's why her mom is having trouble because she's losing her shit every single day because, you know, it's all new doing stuff at home from school. And so she's messing up here and there because she's gotta, you know, get acclimated to this new way of doing school and she just losing her mind. So it's a little warning to those parents out there who, you know, took my advice before. It might go too far, basically, yeah. Hey, did you guys, have you guys heard how they may be using the blood from people who had coronavirus and recovered? How they may be using their blood to treat other people? I heard that from like their antibodies that they formed. Yeah, so it's an old approach. According to this article, so I read this article, this is from Scientific American. Great publication, by the way. So if you like science and you like to get deep into things that you gotta check them out, but they're saying hospitals in New York City are gearing up to use the blood of people who have recovered from COVID-19 as a possible antidote for disease. Researchers hope that the century-old approach of infusing patients with the antibody-laden blood of those who have survived an infection will help. Which is this, I did not know this. This is an old century-old treatment. And I guess that they're basing this off of studies in China that showed that the blood of survivors contained all these antibodies and that in the preliminary results, they actually showed some benefit. Are we crazy, right? Are we finally seeing China and Italy both flatten out and begin to decline? Or are they, are we still seeing more and more? Well, China is hard to believe because it's hard to believe anything that comes out of there, their information. Italy, it looks, it's too early to tell, but it looked like the deaths have flattened out a little bit or dropped a little bit, but it's too early to tell because what tends to happen with these types of things is you see it spike, spike, spike, spike, and then there'll be like a couple of days where it looks like it's going down, but then boom, there's another really big day. So I don't know, we'll see. I hope it's, I hope it's definitely, I hope it's reached its spike already though. Yeah, it's hard to say right now. Even like us, it's hard to say what's happening. I mean, we're at, I think we just passed over a thousand. Yeah, I was talking to my dad last night. So my dad is, he can't sit still. The guy needs to always be doing something productive. So this is like torture for him. He's stuck at home. So he's remodeling the, he's doing the whole backyard. He's doing the front yard. He's tearing up cement. He's laying down brick. He's just, he's doing all kinds of, to the best of his ability. He's got a lot of pain and stuff. So he's doing it in chunks, but still the guy has such a tough time sitting still. But anyway, he was grinding cement down to try and level out the backyard and creates a lot of dust, right? So last night, my dad calls me on the phone and I can hear in his voice that he's a little worried. And he's like, he goes, So, he goes, I'll have a little trouble breathing. I'm having a little shortness of breath. So I'm like, do you have a fever? Do you have a cough? Have you been around anybody? He goes, no, he goes, but it's really weird. I got a little bit and I'm like, weren't you grinding cement yesterday? He's like, yeah. I'm like, I think it's the dust. I think it's probably the, I totally get my hypochondria tendencies from my dad. But anyway, we're talking about this. I'm trying to calm him down. So I pulled up some statistics just to give him a little bit of perspective. And these statistics helped me out too. Now, again, I'm not making light of anything because I still think what's happening right now. We got to be careful. And it could be very dangerous, but I pulled it up for him and I said, look, I said, there's been 1,000 deaths due to coronavirus in the entire United States. It's probably going to go up. But as of right now, there's 1,000 deaths. Between October to February, there's been between 30 to 50,000 deaths from the flu. So I said, just to give you some perspective, we weren't walking around super, super paranoid and afraid of the flu. And that's killed 50 times more people. And I said, not to make light of it, you still got to be careful not to stop. But our fears can really get the better of us, especially right now. Because he breathed in some dust, now he's like, oh my gosh. And I can't, there's so many people, I guarantee right now, getting allergies and stuff who are like freaking out. I know it's tough because I have this feeling that there's a lot of people at the hospital with probably not as severe symptoms as should be at the hospital with, but it's hard to tell people because the fear really sets in. And if they feel like they're really sick, they want to get treatment and get it all taken care of. But at this time, we need to really make sure like those hospitals are apt to take care of people that really need it. Well, 97% of them aren't. I mean, 97% of them are reporting mild symptoms. And those are the people that are reporting, which these are people that have been told they have it, which means they've tested, which means they probably came into, more than likely came into a hospital to get tested. So 97% of the people that are going to the hospital, that are overwhelming the hospitals right now are have mild symptoms. So it's still only 3% of them that have this severe symptoms. I read an article from a researcher from Oxford University and it's a data, I guess this person analyzes data. And they came up with a theory that this virus has been circulating for much longer than we think, that it might've been circulating back in January or even December, November, and that there's far more people who've already had it than we realized. And that actually makes me feel a little bit comforted if that's true, I feel good if that's the case, then I feel like, okay. Yeah, there's probably a lot more cases of people recovering from earlier, but yeah, that is somewhat comfortable. Well, I read the same article and I remember I was talking to my two best friends and we all went through this thing when we came up to Tahoe two months ago and every one of it took the whole house, the kids got it, everybody had fevers, it lingered for almost three weeks and every one of us were all, man, that was either the worst flu I've ever had or it was one of the worst I've ever had in my life and we were all sick for like two, three weeks. And the symptoms that everybody is talking about for COVID-19, I swear were all the symptoms that we all had. So I feel like, and that was two months ago, when we were all up here. So yeah, I would be curious to know like, how many people, one, aren't going to the hospital and reporting it because they're managing through it, right? Because it's mild symptoms and, I mean, I can't be alone, I can't be the only man who's like this, who like, I have to be dying to go to the hospital. Katrina, anytime you've ever heard of me going to the hospital, it's mainly because of Katrina's forced me into the car and she's like, you need to go. You need to go, you're really bad. Otherwise, I'm like, no, I'm fine. I'll let you know when I feel like I'm going to die. I'll then tap out and go. Otherwise, I'll fight this thing. And so there's got to be thousands of people that are, that have mild symptoms like that and are just staying home and sick in bed and fighting through it. And we're not getting the reports of those numbers either. So. Now, did you have all, you had all the symptoms? Oh, I had the dry cough. We had the fever and the fevers were up and down like constantly and it was bad, dude. It was really bad. I remember your son too. He was, he had a fever like on and off. My son, both Jared and Justin's son and daughter were having to go to the hospital. I mean, it was, it was bad. You know, they were all, we were all hitting 103 temperatures and stuff. So. Well, they're coming up with a, they're coming out with a test because right now the test they have shows if you have the active virus, but they're actually in the process of working on a test that will. See if you had it. Test your antibodies. So, oh my gosh. Can I tell you something right now? Like, cause you guys know I'm obviously getting, I'm on the mend. I will be so happy if I got tested and they found that I had antibodies and they're like, actually you had it. I do it. Oh. Yeah. You got that over with. Yeah. I feel like Superman, you know what I mean? Walking around just, you know, not even caring high-fiving people, you know. Are you, are you guys taking a lot of supplements right now since you guys are locked up? Cause I'm, I'm on, I have been up here. Just, are you just the usual? I mean, whenever, I mean this is like, even though we're not traveling, right? We're up at the other home, but it's still tough to get a consistent green. So for me, it's, it's the, it's the usual. It's a challenge. Yeah. It's the usual green juice. I mean, I probably utilize that more than almost anything else when we travel. I mean, I've used the pre-workout a few times to get it, get myself going in the morning to live. But for the most part, it's been green juice for me. I mean, that's what I probably use more than anything else. Oh dude, I'm, I'm doing the, the green juice, the Organifi green juice three times a day right now. Just I'm mixing it, putting it on ice, sipping on it. And it just, you know, I'm not getting as many vegetables either because, you know, vegetables go bad. So that means you have to go to the grocery store more often and I really don't want to go through the whole process of going to the grocery store, putting on the mask and, you know, bringing everything home, washing everything with soap, this whole, whatever, you know, paranoid thing that I do. So I'm drinking that thing three, three times a day. I don't think I've ever taken it that much. It's actually, it's actually helping. It's, you know, it's a, it's a poor substitute for vegetables. Vegetables are the best possible, you know, real vegetables are the best possible thing, but I do notice it helps with my digestion, you know, more so than if I didn't take it at all. Oh, we were, we were, I mean, it's not, it's not even by choice for us. I mean, it's, this time it's like we have to, I mean, we were, we went to the grocery store all, there was literally only just frozen and there was only two bags of it. I got the last of it. Doug was like, we got to get some greens. He's like, I'm dying for greens. And we ate those in like two seconds. Yeah. So we're like, oh, now what? Yeah, so we had, we had frozen broccoli and frozen green beans. There was one package of each of those left. I grabbed them, Doug did them in the air fryer for one of the, or two of the days. We had veggies. Other than that, we've had to pretty much utilize the green juice. I mean, they were very, very, I'm doubling, tripling up on those packets. Yeah, very, very minimal veggies for us just because it hasn't been available. Are you guys all constipated or what? You should take the psyllium husk. I know Doug's got some psyllium husk. That stuff can help. I don't know. Yeah, I've been good. I've actually been good. It's kept, I mean, as long as I'm taking that, I feel like I'm pretty regular and it doesn't really throw me off. I don't believe you, Justin. You always say you're good. I always see what happens after. Yeah, but I, you know, I blasted out and it gets out. Yeah, I can't prove it wrong. I can't prove it wrong. He's in the, he's in the, the maids unit, right? So he's got the whole place to himself over there. So I can't check his bathroom or anything like that. So I still tear it up. Ask for a report from the cleaners. Say, hey, just, you know, let me know if there's anything, you know, you had to use it, you know, a high pressure washer to get off, you know, let me know if there's anything. What can I say? This clause brought to you by OrganiFi. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition. OrganiFi fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health and performance the added edge. Try OrganiFi, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to OrganiFi.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code MINEPOMP for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Tansen82. How do you guys get your kids to eat healthy? Mine refuses to eat most of the healthy meals I make. Well, mine is, mine's on the same diet. He's a, he's a 100% boob right now. On the boob diet? On the boob diet. So he doesn't stray from that. It's pretty easy. It's a fact he seems to love it. Who doesn't? No qualms from him whatsoever. So he pretty much listens to everything I tell him to as far as what I want to say. Enjoy while it lasts, my friend, enjoy. Exactly, enjoy while it lasts. This is a really, really tough one for me, especially because I was, you know, I was raised in a culture that we're feeding people and just making them eat a lot is how you show them that you love them and you care. And if a kid skipped a meal, it was like the worst thing ever. I mean, my mom takes pride in the fact that she can get kids to eat more and she follows kids around while they play and she distracts them. And when they, you know, then they're not looking and she puts slipped food in their mouth and they eat. I mean, it's, it's a, and so I grew up that way. So this is a really, really tough one because, you know, telling my kids this is all we're having for dinner. And then them saying, well, I don't want that. And then I have to be okay with them not eating like that. That is really, really tough. So this could be really hard. I think you have to just, you have to get creative. The biggest thing is this, is that the kids largely, largely follow their parents' behaviors and their lead. So, you know, if you don't want your kids to eat snacks, you know, chips or cookies or things that you don't, you know, aren't necessarily healthy, then you can't have them in the house. You know, I know a lot of parents that they have the cookies and, you know, what they say is like, oh, that's just for me every once in a while. And I manage that, you know, but, you know, no one else can have it or the kids can't, whatever. That's, it's harder to deal with that than just not having it in the house. If it's not there, it's not there. So if your kid gets up and says, you know, I'm hungry, I want to snack on something. Then you say, okay, go look in the fridge and eat whatever you want. And if their options are a cheese stick and apple, you know, and peanut butter, then that's what they're gonna choose if they're really hungry, because that's all there is. The one strategy that Jessica really helped me with, and this one was a tough one for me to adopt because it was so different, again, from how I grew up, was feeding the kids in order of priority. So let's say we have, you know, let's say our dinner consists of vegetables, meat, and maybe some pasta or some rice or something like that. We're gonna serve the kids the vegetables first. And, you know, I'll make sure it's a reasonable amount. So I'm not pushing it too hard. And reasonable is different from child to child. So with my daughter, it's a lot less because I know she really doesn't like certain vegetables with my son. I can give them a little more. You might have a kid that is so reluctant to eat anything that what you put on their plate is like one broccoli, you know, something like that. And then in order for them to go to the next course, they have to finish the vegetables that are on their plate. And that's their choice. It becomes their choice. They can choose, I don't want this, in which case you say, okay, well then, you're done with dinner, which is a tough one. That's a tough one to do with your kids because if they don't wanna eat, it's hard to leave them without any food. But it actually does work if you're consistent. So you put the vegetables and then, you know, they finish that and then you give them the next priority, which would be meat. And then they finish that and then maybe the rice. And it depends on the kid. Like if you have a kid who loves meat, but refuses to eat any type of, you know, carbohydrates or refuses to have vegetables, then maybe you leave the meat last because you know they're gonna eat that, you know, no matter what. So I know that this order can change from family, family, for my kids, it tends to be vegetable, meat, and then, you know, starch or carbohydrate. It tends to be in that order. Now, I have no experience with this yet, but I do have a question that's related to this for both of you that I'm curious about because my theory is that a lot of this starts now for like, for me. And I was joking, you know, the only thing that Max is not eating is we've introduced foods. We started introducing foods about a month, a month and a half ago. And you know, he gets like, you know, we'll take a avocado and a piece of banana and it gets, you know, blended together. And then she feeds him that or it's blueberry and spinach. And so we've introduced foods like that and we puree it ourselves and then feed them like whole organic foods. And my theory is that if we stay consistent with feeding him that way, as we've introduced these certain foods and then as he starts to progress, I will keep him eating like Katrina and I eat that the struggle hopefully will be a lot less than what a lot of parents claim. And what I wanted to ask the two of you because you both have two and that are different ages, do you feel that you were like this with one better than the other and do you see a difference in their, because now both of you have grown kids that have been eating their foods for a long time now. Do you see a difference in the way you raise the two of them and then how their eating behaviors are today? I have to kind of go on record and kind of correct myself with this as well. And I was talking to Courtney about this because it, you know, we were so focused on, you know, our firstborn for sure, like doing everything to the tea, like blending all the whole organic foods and then like freezing them and then being able to, you know, feed them just like once they were able to eat like real foods. And I was under the impression that that was sort of like to the wayside, which she corrected me and was like, no, we did the same thing with our youngest. And what we've actually found is they're completely two different personalities and that's something that's, you know, not really something we could have accounted for. So it's two completely different strategies that we've had to apply with both our kids. And again, they're just, they just gravitate naturally, I think, towards like certain types of foods that they enjoy, they completely, for some reason are repulsed by and either that's because of the texture, the color or whatever. And so honestly, it's been a real struggle with our youngest because he, he's just like, yes. He's very specifically, like he needs things to have a certain color, a certain texture, like in order to be even remotely interested and he will battle to where I apply the same principles like you're talking about Sauer, I'll introduce it first. You know, then we move on to the next and then he'll actually will stop eating and then won't eat the whole entire rest of the night and then go on into the morning and he's totally fine with that. And he's like super like crazy stubborn with that. And so this has been kind of like an interesting battle, but one win, and this is where we get a little creative. We got inspiration from Jerry Seinfeld's wife initially. She wrote this book that was helpful with introducing ways of sort of ninja-ing vegetables into certain types of foods and being able to sneakily kind of add that in. So we had like Hulk pancakes. And so we were able to kind of blend in spinach into a pancake mix and waffle mix and things like that. And then also like within burger patties we've been able to kind of like stuff that with vegetables as well and kind of sneak that in through that. And we just got like real creative over the years with between that and like spaghetti sauce. Like there's a lot of ways you can blend it all in. So they really have no idea, you know, there's that much vegetables within the mix of the sauce. And so I get it, man. I get the struggle of certain kids or just have really strong personalities when it comes to what they like, what they don't like. But it really is about the parents having consistency. And so we take ownership of that. If like we're inconsistent, it shows in our kids. Like the way we eat, like if they start kind of going off track, it's because we've been going off track and have been introducing things in the house. So again, it's a reflection of, I guess, like us. And then also like just trying our best to sort of move, especially our youngest, move him along on his palate in terms of like, okay, well, let's introduce peppers. Let's introduce, you know, these other types of vegetables we think he'll be able to, you know, be cool with now and then kind of build upon that. Adam, I see a difference between my two for sure. Like when my ex-wife was pregnant with my son, she ate healthier. Now, I know some of it has to do with the pregnancy. I think, you know, watching Jessica be pregnant, like the first trimester, she's so nauseous and apprehensive, like so many foods just disgust her. So it's hard, it's really hard in this first trimester to eat, you know, foods that you would consider healthy. So I get there's that part of it, but my ex-wife definitely made a bigger effort to eat healthier foods when she was pregnant with my son. Then when she had my daughter, she was much looser. And then when they were babies, I think this is true for a lot of parents. When you just have one kid, you tend to, everything's, you know, much more perfect than the second and third one or whatever, you tend to be looser with each one. So yeah, and so my son, his palate is, you know, he likes, you know, we joke around, like he's got the palate of an old man, like he likes olives and fish and he likes, you know, healthier foods and then my daughter, she definitely gravitates more towards bread, starches and sugar. So there's, I see that difference there and this is just my own kids. So I don't know how much of an impact that had with what her mom ate when she was pregnant and then, you know, how we fed them as kids. But man, this is a really tough one. This is a tough one for me. I mean, I'm a, you know, here I am, a fitness expert or whatever. A health ambassador. But I, you know, I grew up a certain way and it's so ingrained in me. And then the other side of it is, I don't want to push too hard. You don't want them to rebel. You don't want them to rebel. They'll get a complex. Well, you don't want them to rebel when they get 18 and then all they eat is gummy bears and fire Cheetos because dad never let me enjoy anything like that. Or I don't want them to develop, you know, body image or food image issues because their dad is always on top of them, you know, about what to eat. And then to make it even more challenging when my kids go to their grandparents' house or they go stay somewhere else. That's the biggest challenge. It's all out the window. So, you know, my point of saying that is you also got to be, because I know we have a lot of fitness fanatics listening, you know, it's like, be kind to yourself. You don't have to be super crazy strict because it could be a nightmare. Kids' bodies are more resilient than adults are. They can get away with not eating as perfect. Now in my 40s, if I eat a bunch of garbage, I pay for it big time. When I was a kid, I could eat a bunch of garbage. I'd go trick or treating. I'd come home and I had no governing on how much candy I'd eat one night. I literally sit there and eat as much as I wanted. If I did that as an adult now, I'd probably have to go to the hospital. So, their bodies are more resilient than adults. So, you know, be kind to yourself. But the vast majority of your kids' behaviors are learned from watching the parents. That's the vast majority of anything you're trying to teach your kids. How you are yourself is the big, big chunk of how they're gonna be, for sure. Next question is from Spoil Me Silly. Is it bad to extend all the way in a push movement like a shoulder press? People keep telling me not to lock out. But if I don't extend all the way, that's not a full range of motion, right? Bodybuilders kind of popularize this, right? Where they're like, keep the tension on the muscle and shorten the rep and that kind of stuff. And I can see some value in that, especially for bodybuilders who are very, very developed, big muscles and they've been training for years and years and years. But for most people, cutting your rep short is gonna be cutting your gains short, 100%. Like a full range of motion, studies have proven this time and time again, leads to better strength gains. And one of the reasons why you get better strength gains is the strength gains are spread out over the range of motion that you train. So if you stop your rep short, most of the strength gains you're gonna get are gonna be in that short range. If you train in a full range of motion, then you're gonna get strength gains in that whole range of motion. And then of course, in the studies show that you build more muscle as well. I think the big caveat to this is when you do full range of motion is to not rely, don't let the weight sit on the joint. Don't let the joint support. Well, that's the real issue, is how you're distributing the force, right? So if you have good control and you're able to then stabilize properly with your shoulder blade kind of activated and you're activating your back muscles, your lats and your rhomboids. And you're able to then kind of transfer a lot of that force down through your arm in the lockout position. So it goes down properly through your back and it doesn't stop, right, at the joint. Then there is absolutely nothing wrong with the lockout. And that's something that people need to learn how to properly do that first and stabilize overhead before even going through with heavy loaded overhead pressing. And so these are sort of the prerequisites to like standards in order for you to even attempt that exercise. Well, to that point, that's why I love the Z-Press. What you just said, because it helps take somebody who doesn't understand what you just said and it kind of forces them to do that. Like if you do a Z-Press and you press the barbell above your head and you don't fully lock out, it'll tip you back over. And in order for you to lock out and stabilize all those muscles that you just listed off end up engaging and stabilizing. And so it really teaches you how to do that properly. But yeah, I know, if you're locking out, as long as you're keeping tension in the muscles and you're not relaxing the weight on your joints, and there's a big difference in that. Like if you are relaxing and the joints are taking all the stress, you could probably hold it there for a very long time. If you're keeping tension in the muscle, your muscles will fatigue and you'll have to set it back down. And so just keeping your muscles tense and that goes for every exercise, not just shoulder press. I mean, it can be bench press, tricep push downs, it could be squatting. When you come up from a squat and it could come in the lockout position, you're not supposed to relax your body and you're supposed to stay tense even in the full lockout position and keep the quads tense, keep the glutes tense even when you're completely locked out. Right, you wanna remain active, remain active throughout the whole range of motion. So think of it this way, right? Imagine you're standing up straight. You can lock your knees and somewhat relax your body and now what's supporting you are your joints. The ligaments of your joints are supporting you standing or you can stand and remain active where your muscles are active in supporting you. Now locking your knees out and just sitting on your joints, I mean, you put weight on that, you're gonna cause problems eventually and that's true for locking out your arms or any other joint. You don't want the ligaments to support you because ligaments have a finite amount of strength, they have a finite amount of elasticity and eventually over time, you can cause yourself big problems. Now muscles, if I remain tense and active, then my muscles will tell me when I can and can't lift the weight and I lower the weight if I need to and the chance, the risk of injury is far lower. It's like when you watch Olympic weight lifters and they do like really good ones and they do like a snatch and you look at their elbows at the top of the snatch and their arms are totally locked out and straight, right? Because they're supporting a very heavy weight but you ask an Olympic weight lifter, are you resting this on your elbow joints or are you staying active and pressing out while you're holding the weight up? And they'll tell you, you better stay active. If you lock the elbows out and relax, you're gonna have a hyperextended elbow. You're gonna hurt yourself. So you gotta stay active throughout the full range of motion. The problems with locking out come from losing the connection. That's where the problems come from. Next question is from Alexis Swayce. After all this coronavirus stuff blows over and gyms are open again, how do you go back to lifting heavy without injuring yourself? Oh jeez, take your time, just take your time. There's no rush. I don't think you can stress that enough though. I think, I mean, I still learn this lesson every time I'm out of the gym for a few weeks because it's rare that I have more than a couple of weeks that I take off, maybe if I was really sick or an injury or something that kept me down for a month or more. But for the most part, if I take a hiatus, it's maybe a week or two that I take a hiatus from lifting consistently. But it never fails. How quickly the body adapts back the other direction and how little of volume and intensity that I need to stimulate growth again. And I almost always end up overreaching. And I think I can't be alone in this if you're an advanced or consistent lifter and you've been lifting for years and you take a few weeks off. You're better off probably starting with less than you think you need and scaling up than thinking that you can go right back to where you were or even anywhere close to that. Like I always tell clients, and again, this is like, do your points I always make or so much better coaches than we are coaching ourselves. I'm so great about doing this well with my clients. Like, oh, you've been gone for two weeks. This is all we're gonna do today. And they always go, oh, that's it, I can do. I said, I know you can do more. It's not about you can do more. It's all we wanna do is enough to elicit some change. And this is gonna be enough to do that. And then next week we'll build on that. And I do that really well with clients, not so well with myself. So if you're listening and you are training yourself and you're getting back from being home and probably very inconsistent with your lifting or you haven't been training heavy, ease yourself in, probably start off with a lot less than what you think because you can always build on that. But if you overreach, you're setting yourself up for a quicker plateau. A lot of times it requires even more discipline to have that mindset and to really listen to your body is paramount coming back into the gym. Because you already have this thought that I've done this weight a million times. I know what that feels like. I've tried to train myself to do this more consistently when there's been a big break in between training sessions is to just get under the weight, slowly ramp my way up. But I'll tend to do things like pause squats and I'll tend to do reps where I'm really taking my time with it and trying to get some more isometric tension in place so I can really feel mechanically going through like what weight I feel like apt to lift at the time. And so a lot of times I'll reduce a lot of the volume of what I used to work out and slow down my reps and my cadence a lot and then start like re-acclimating myself towards the heavier weights. Yeah, a good rule of thumb and this is different from person to person but I'm gonna give you a general amount of time. So however much time you took off, cut that in half and that's the amount of time you gotta give yourself to slowly ramp up. So let's say you took six weeks off from the gym. So for six weeks you haven't worked out, you go back to the gym, give yourself three weeks of basic beginner, slow, ramping up, give your body at least three weeks to start to get back to where it was before. So just take the time to about half. Now here's the other thing. If you're being consistent at home, let's say you're following maps anywhere and you've been working out at home this whole time, you're gonna go back to the gym and it's not gonna take much time at all to get back to lifting weights. The amount of time it's gonna take is just enough time for you to get used to the new movements again because you haven't maybe dead lifted and barbell road or whatever for a few weeks but if you've been staying active and you've been following good programming this whole time, you're probably, you're gonna bounce back really fast but if you're taking this time off, take that time, divide it in half, give yourself that much time to get back into the gym to practice movements, have the attitude where you're going to the gym to practice movements versus going to the gym to work out. So let's like, okay, I'm back in the gym. I'm just gonna practice my squat. I'm just gonna practice my bench press, just kinda go through the motion, full range of motion, feel it, get connected to it. I've been off for four weeks so I'm gonna give myself two weeks of doing this. By the time you get to the third week when you can ramp up the intensity again, see how you feel. This is how I like to use soreness. I don't use soreness for any other gauge of my workout effectiveness. It's not, I think it's a terrible way to gauge whether or not a workout was effective but it is a okay, it's not perfect but it's an okay way of telling yourself if you overdid it. So if you go back to the gym and you're like, wow, I'm exceptionally sore, like I'm way more sore than I normally get, you overdid it, you probably overdid it to go way easier and try to find an intensity that causes you to feel either no soreness or just a little bit of soreness. That's how I would use that gauge right there. Next question is from Shan Fitlife. What are the pros and cons to artificial sweeteners and is there one that is better than the others? Oh boy, big debate here. This has been an ongoing debate in the fitness space, the health space. I had an online, it was like a story on Instagram to debate with Lane Norton over this. I like how she worded it though with the pros and cons versus sometimes people ask, are artificial sweeteners bad? And I think that's where this gets really tough to have this conversation. But I feel like we can list pros and cons, you know? Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. I'll start with some. I think, you know, are they, first off, let's start off with, are they bad for you? You know, they're not poison, so you're not gonna poison yourself with them. But there's some studies that show that they may not be ideal for the body, that they may potentially have some negative impacts on your microbiome, they may have impact your body's ability to utilize insulin or how it responds to sugar when you do consume it, or how it changes your perception of taste and flavor. So there's studies on that. We can go back and forth on that. Here's some pros, I'll start with some pros. One of the pros is if you are somebody that tracks your food and you know what your calories are that are coming in, you know what your carbohydrates, proteins and fats are, you know how many calories you burn, then you can utilize artificial sweeteners as a way to give yourself a treat without taking in more calories. Now the reason why I said if you're that person that tracks is because studies are pretty clear on this. People who don't track, who just try to reduce their sugar by consuming artificial sweeteners, actually don't do so. They actually end up eating, making up the calories in other places because and it's probably because the sweet flavor, you know, makes you crave more food to begin with. So studies are pretty clear on this. When people replace their sugary drinks in foods with artificial sweeteners, they don't lose any weight. You would think they would because they cut out calories but the reality is they're probably replacing them with other calories. But when they have studies where people control their calories, well then yeah, people can lose weight because now they're actually reducing their caloric intake. So that will be one of the pros. If you track, then you know, you can probably use them in a way to help yourself, you know, get leaner or whatever. This is exactly what happened with me. Now I've openly discussed, you know, my love for Diet Cokes and it's not something you will occasionally, you'll see me with one. I think I had one when we were in the Ohio trip. I think I picked one up in the airport. I don't know if it's probably been months before that. But what I've done now is I've switched over to the Hanson's real cane sugar root beers. And if I have a craving where I want a soda or something like that, I'll go have that. And I have to take into consideration the 180 calories that it has. And I think about that and I go, okay, well, I gotta be careful if I've had that. I can't not gonna let two or three run back or what else I'm gonna have with my dinner. I gotta take it into account that I'm eating an additional or drinking an additional 180 calories. And that's how I have managed now. And I actually have lost the craving that I used to have for Diet Cokes. And the craving for the Diet Cokes really came from competitive days. When I was competing and tracking everything, it was my treat. It was my sweet tooth because I wasn't eating sweets. I was dialed nutritionally. And if I was really craving something sweet, I'd have a Diet Coke or something and it would fulfill that sensation. And it would also keep me from over-consuming on calories. So it worked incredibly for me when I was tracking. When I was no longer tracking, I fell into the category that you just said. I would drink the Diet Cokes, but it wasn't keeping me from putting on body fat. Because I wasn't tracking. I was drinking the Diet Coke that would promote more hunger and make me wanna eat something else. Because I'm not tracking, I would easily over-consume without even really noticing. And I was putting it on body fat that way. And then I thought, okay, let me see if I switch to a real sugar drink and still allow myself to have it if I have a craving, okay, I'm gonna go have it. But now because I'm having it, I recognize like, okay, this isn't like free. It's costing me 180 calories to have this. I may be more mindful. And so I'm seeing the same weight, right? Like I'm not going up or down and now I'm having real sugar in my drink. And it's mainly because I'm not tracking and I'm kind of intuitively eating. If I was back into, if I was trying to really make aggressive moves, I probably would utilize Diet Coke again because I'm tracking, I'm counting, I'm paying attention and I know that I have no calories left today, but I have a sweet tooth. I'm gonna go have a Diet Coke. I'm gonna fulfill that. Okay, I feel okay, I'm fine. But if I'm not tracking and I'm still in the habit of drinking those Diet Cokes, then I'm still making up the calories other places in the day. Yeah, yeah, we always talk about, again, you gotta consider our backgrounds and our experience. Adam, Justin and myself trained people for two decades, coach people, work with people. And what you learn through doing that is that you have to work with the behaviors, not the mechanistic physiological aspects of food. Because if we look at it from a mechanistic standpoint, and this is what a lot of people in the fitness space do, especially a guy like Lane Norton, who's like super defense, artificial sweeteners. The vast majority of his coaching is with competitive, bodybuilders, busy competitors. Right, makes a lot of sense for those people. Now somebody like Lane, does he have an actual hierarchy of like a difference between like Aspartame versus Stavia? Is there some kind of like a list that he has in terms of like priorities for those? He says they're all fine. They're all the same. He says they're all fine. Yeah, as long as they're used, and they're not abused, they're totally fine. But again, his experience is working with those people. And so everything's very mechanistic. Calories in versus calories out. Here's your macros, you're good. Now the average person, that just doesn't work. Count your calories, count your macros. Okay, there's definitely some value to that, but that is a very ineffective long-term strategy for the vast majority of people out there. And if you're somebody that's counting your calories and your macros all the time for the rest of your life, that's also dysfunctional. So behaviorally speaking, okay, when we're speaking about the behaviors that people have, here's what ends up happening when people consume artificial sweeteners. Number one, when you're consuming something that's really sweet, it does change how you perceive the taste of food. Can that have an effect on the food choices that you make? Absolutely. Have a bunch of artificially sweetened drinks throughout the day, and then go have some fruit. You're gonna find that fruit starts to taste bland. You're gonna find that you're gonna crave more of that really, really sweet taste. Here's the other problem. There are natural barriers that help us kind of stay conscious of what we're doing. Like here's a good example, okay? You look back in the 60s, the free love era of the 60s and the 70s when birth control first hit the market and people were just banging each other left and right, no condoms, no, not worried, no one's gonna get pregnant. And then HIV hit the scene. And all of a sudden you've got this new fear. Oh my God, like what's going on? There's this new barrier and people did have to kind of change their behaviors a little bit, right? So when we're looking at food that's taste sweet but has calories, there's a barrier there. When Adam reaches for his root beer with 180 calories, there's a natural barrier he's aware of. Oh, that's 180 calories, I'm only having one. Okay, but if it's an artificially sweetened Coke or whatever, there's no barrier there. Oh, there's no calories. I'm gonna have as much as I want. So behaviorally speaking, this is what I would end up seeing with clients. I almost never saw clients who had artificially sweetened beverages have one every once in a while. It was typically three or four a day. We just consume them like crazy because there's no natural barrier of calories. So they never developed that relationship of I should probably watch this a little bit. So they'd consume a ton of them. That in effect then would change how they perceive taste and they'd eat more calories. And again, the studies are clear when people just replace sugary beverages with artificially sweetened ones and then don't track anything. They don't gain or they don't lose weight. Nothing happens. They just, they trade one for the other. They end up consuming more food. And so in my opinion is if you're not gonna benefit from it, if you're not an athlete that tracks constantly you're not gonna benefit from it. Why not just have the sugary drink, be aware of this has extra calories and go with the real stuff? Plus sugar is not as sweet as artificial sweeteners. So I'll make the argument that consuming a lot of artificially sweetened foods will actually skew your perception of taste worse than sugar well. In fact, if you know somebody, maybe this is you listening and you consume a lot of artificially sweetened drinks when you go have a regular sugar one it doesn't taste as good. You're used to the extreme sweetness of artificial sweeteners. In fact, I think Adam you've told me that. Yeah, no, I didn't eat fruit before. Because I was such a sweet candy eater and artificial, I mean, I had it all as a kid. And I for sure hated fruit. But the reason why I hated fruit was because it tasted like nothing to me. It was so bland. And so I didn't enjoy any fruit. And it wasn't until I went on a really hardcore diet where I was all whole foods and I eliminated all that. And then I reintroduced, and I tell you what, I mean, it's like if you go look at Whole30 like their reviews or you talk to somebody who's done the Whole30 diet, especially if you talk to just a normal person, like my mom and her husband, they did the Whole30 last year. And that's like the number one thing that somebody who has just never really paid attention to that before, like how does fruit taste to them and could it potentially have something to do with all the artificial sweeteners that they consume. And then now when they eliminate that and they're only eating Whole Foods, what a difference, it's mind blowing to them. They're like, oh my God, Apple has never tasted so amazing. Oh my God, blueberries and strawberries are so rich and sweet. That wasn't like that for me. I'd eat fruit and it tastes, everything tasted like a watermelon or a melon to me. Like watered down and real basic with a little bit of flavor to it, just didn't enjoy it until I dieted like that. And boy, did it make a huge difference. Now Adam, when you were consuming a lot of artificially sweetened drinks, how did sugar drinks taste? Did they taste less sweet and a little bit more bland? Yeah, no, that's why I think you end up doing so much of it is because it's, I mean, it keeps stretching how much sweet you need to get that same punch. And you see candy brands do this all the time. I mean, I just saw somebody sharing like the extra sweet sour patches or whatever. It's like, Jesus, like the first ones weren't, it needs more. Yeah, like the first one wasn't, I mean, they're made of sugar, they're drowned in sugar, they're not sweet enough as it is. Like, yeah, no, and that's definitely, I mean, they're following the market, right? I mean, the consumer is telling them that they're wanting that, people are pushing that. Well, the reason for that is because you just keep, put your body gets adapted to that, that level of sweetness. And so then it needs another level of it. Such a high potency. And then another level of it. And then when you try and have normal things, like a whole organic apple, and then you think it's gonna taste like your extreme sour patch kids or all your artificially flavored pre-workout drinks, like no, it's not because you've been consuming so much that the body's got adapted to that level of sweetness. Then you go back to having, the same thing works for vegetables. Vegetables were very bland to me for the same reason. I felt like it, because even vegetables have this kind of like natural, sweet tasting flavor to them when you have a very clean, pure palate. But when it's been doused with all these artificial sweeteners all the time, vegetables tasted like nothing to me. Both vegetables and fruit had a whole new taste for me after I eliminated the artificial sweeteners. Oh yeah. It's again, you wanna be aware of how it's influencing your behaviors. You don't wanna necessarily just look at it from a mechanistic standpoint and say, oh, it's no calories and the FDA approved it and therefore it's fine. There's no potential negatives. The vast majority of the negatives of consuming these things are how it influences your behaviors. And if you think of what's going to determine your success long-term, it's all about your behaviors. I mean, it's really no different. It's literally no different than what we're seeing with young men and the rise of impotence, the rise of erectile dysfunction among young men. You're seeing 20-year-olds and 30-year-olds with erectile dysfunction and you never saw that before. Now why is that happening? Well, it's the rise of pornography. They're exposed to so much of this extreme stimulus that the real world is like the fruit was for you. It's bland. So you just wanna be aware. So what does this mean? Does this mean the occasional artificially sweetened products is bad? No, that's okay. But you wanna be aware of what it's doing. You wanna be aware of what we're doing it. That's a great analogy. You should probably use artificial sweeteners about as much as you use porn hub. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So, so for Justin, that's why I say- I should probably calm down. Yeah. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com. Go check out all of our free guides and resources. If you're stuck at home, you could do a lot of free reading on fitness, nutrition and health. Get a lot of resources there. They're all totally free. Go learn a few things. There's some cool stuff there. You can also find the three of us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump. Justin, you can find me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam at Mind Pump Adam. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance, check out our discounted RGB Superbundle at mindpumpmedia.com. 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