 I don't mean, don't scare it, don't scare it, don't cheer it. Thank you, Ken. Yeah, we just got this Frigerator off L.A. That's the most fucking dope shit. OG, how long you been out here? I was not expecting you to open that motherfucker. I ain't even know that was a fringe, nigga. That's a college Frigerator. I should like some fly furniture shit, but all this shit on top of it? Yeah, yeah, that's like, we had to dig it up. All right, that was some shit. I've been out here since, um, Thursday. Thursday? Yeah. Thug it. You got what? You fuck with Boosie? Oh, I love that nigga. I got something for you. That's my motherfucking dude right there. I got something for you. What you got for me? Mm, mm, mm. I got something for you. What? What? Boosie already got it very soon. Oh, let's work. Yeah, sir, scheme. I've been waiting. You've seen your voice havin' ass. I done seen your little video lookin' on some sex and all. I ain't gonna see what these niggas did. You know they ain't even sound gooder than them motherfuckers. I said it, right? Y'all got it on camera? Oh, you fuck niggas. They been talkin' all that hate comedian shit. This ol' G, nigga. Niggas, this down. I got this down. Bop-bop. Yeah. Oh. You bad, this down. Oh. Oh. Oh. Nah, low nigga be playin' with me on the lobby, y'all. Yeah. I got a shot cover and he gonna tell y'all. Where he gonna play? Yeah. Ain't no motherfuckin' game. My nigga. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. Imma stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I'm gonna stand up in my lane. I give up. Stomping me up. Oh, shit. Did that go? No. You gotta put your seat belt on you think it's done. Later, see ya tonight. Chargey dancing with your Maharก Oh, shit. There they go. Shit. Gotta put your seat belt pulling the whole di砂 Quran. Yeah. Oh, shit. There they go. It ain't lovin' niggas. It ain't lovin' lookin' like a nun. Big boy. You scraped. Yeah, we don't want to be bringing too much nice shit in here. Nah, it ain't nice shit. This shit made in 1998. What? Make sure the phone caught up. My little nephew put a big column in the minute. Y'all, y'all. We in there. What we sound like? Y'all. Everybody good? One, two, one, two, we good, cat. You good, cat? Can you check my mic one time for the gift bag? Uh-oh. Did you hear that? Huh? My nigga. He's gonna bring that shit back. My nigga. Gonna check that mic for the gift bag. For the gift bag. Y'all, did you hear that? Did you get that? What? Can you hear that? Y'all. For the gift bag. Get that. What you said? Get that. Get that. Call out. Split that. Let me check my mic. Hello? Can you hear me? Let me split my voice up. Get it, dearly. Got a couple niggas sitting near me. Yeah. And we try to do a year league. Yeah. Roll up another one. Still smoke the rose, because you know I got another one? Y'all. I'm gonna have to smoke the other one. Y'all. Bust the ram, got another one. Can't do this motherfucker shit. Only had one chain on. I thought he was one of the motherfuckers that I seen last time, that he had a chain on. But like, no. No. This the new shit. New shit. I'mma chill, because you know I ain't gonna do shit. New shit, y'all. Get my flag, get my blue shit. New shit, y'all. We be chillin' on some crew shit. Ooh. On some crew shit. That's the new shit. That's the new shit. New shit. New shit. We gonna get them. Bought a whole bunch of New York niggas with them. Yeah, they in here. No fear. That's this year. DC. Can you hear me? Hey, cat. Did you get that? Ooh. Get that. Where they get that? Ooh. Clip, clap. When I split that. Ooh. Fuck around, I see your bitch, then I hear that. Ooh. I put this thing. Get that. No. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah, baby. Oh. No, what? You should have kept your mask on. I want to eat the kushu. But the shit smell like bully. So I put my mask back up. I say, you know what? Just take a mask. I think it is. Fuck what you let off. I thought you was going to say, I put my mask back up. But I'm going to still fuck. I did anyway. Hey, man. Y'all ain't going to believe this shit. What we talking about? Hey, man, welcome back to the 85 South Show. First and foremost, the first and foremost, you will never believe who in the trap with us today. Who in the trap, Lowe? What? Mr. Put your hands where my eyes can see. Break your neck. Huh? He's joking. Give me some more. Keep talking. That. Who? That's the only nigga that can do this in a song. The most diabolical nigga. Talk your shit. Bust around. Before we get started, I got to do it. I got to do it. Hold up. Hold up. Everywhere I got to go to where I got to get in. I got to speed in. Hold up. Get in. Listen, you got to do it. Because I'm putting a light on. I got to get away. Get away. Get away. But I know that I don't. And I won't ever stop. Because you know I got to win every day. And you really want to pop me. Just know that you can never flop me. But I know that I can be a little floppy. You ain't never going to stop me. Every time I come in, I got to sit it. Then I got to go in. Then I got to get it. Then I got to blow it. And I got to show them any little thing. And they can think that it'll be door. Because it doesn't matter. Because I'm on it. I'm on it. I got to do a lot of things. And make it clear to a couple of niggas. That I always wanted. And then they got to get it again. And then they get it again. And then they get it again. And I'll be doing this. Definitely. I'm with a little style of nigga. Better call a rap. And everybody know my style of niggas. Know that I'm the best. When they come to doing this. And I'll be begging on my chest. And I'll bang in the east. And I'll bang in the west. After we can do you more. And I will never give you less. You know we got a deal. In the devil's pace. So we struck it in the hustle and the sin. And then again. You know, we got to do it. Take a tour of a place got. Taste it. I got to grab it. I got to cut off this track. Big get the beat at the top of the door. Better know I got to have it. Yeah. Fuck you. Fuck you. You got this. Yeah. That nigga really got to get lyrics. You know how much pussy I got? Cause I could do that nigga. I used to do that shit. True story. I used to do that shit in the club. In North Carolina called Lotus. They used to cut them off. Fucking beat off. And just let me rap that shit. and I would rap it every time I was in the club. And nigga, what? And what? The legend dirt. You studied the fuck out the lyrics. Nah, you know that's what I do. Now I'm autistic when it comes to that type of job. Nigga. OG, you're full. I'm fucking killed that. Oh, nigga. Listen. I'm gonna tell you the moment. Why I knew, bro, why I knew. This the moment where I knew I had to know this nigga in real life. I was watching higher learning, and it had just beat the white news up. And then they said, yo, nigga, step mom's gonna be feeling me for like the next three birthdays. This type of nigga I need to know in real life. What? Got the motherfucking OG in this bitch. Man, what, man, Buston, thank you so much for, man, gracing the trap with your presence. This is an honor, man. Like, you a legend. You one of the greatest to ever touch a microphone, man. Like, it's an honor to have you in here. That we didn't even get to the status that you will come sit down with niggas like us, man. Thank you, bro. Thank you, man. Lead us up to the new school. Thank y'all, man. The motherfucking might... It's interesting that you acknowledged my bros, man, where it all started from with me, because I believe yesterday, was the 27 year anniversary of the second and the last leaders' album. I'm 28! You're 28, bro? 28! That's shit crazy! I'm one years old, man. That's how long you been born. Shit on myself. That's shit crazy, man. That's how long you been born. You a fucking legend, man. Thank you, one-naked, thank you, bro. Yeah, shit. That shit crazy. I appreciate y'all, man. Man, what keep you motivated to still do it after all this time and all the accolades and the things you've accomplished? What keep you still motivated to make this music? I mean, I think we can all agree, just being niggas in the right mindset. You come from canned food, nigga, you taste a steak, you ain't wanna go back to canned food unless you choose to. Ever. I don't wanna eat bologna and cheese sandwiches because I ain't got no choice, but to eat them all, fuck. I don't wanna eat it, because I just still love them all, fuck. And in my beautiful ass million dollar home, I could still go and get me the potato bread slices, mayonnaise and motherfucker beef bologna and some American cheese slapped shit together and sit in front of motherfucker's cartoon network and watch some shit that I grew up on, like Tom and Jerry, nigga. I think we all that same dude at heart. The thing that just keeps the torch lit, though, is the fact that when you taste that other side of success that come with the sacrifice and the hard work that you put into this shit and besides all of that, you just genuinely loving this shit. When I was putting them records out with leaders, I was still living in my mom's crib. You know what I'm saying? So having an incredible mom's like, Mom's too, she signed my deal when I was 17, I wasn't old enough to sign my deal. So, you know, mom's got to get the big salute because she could have been on an angry date with a nigga the day that that contract was on the table and said, nigga, fuck your contract. You gonna take your ass to bed. You used to live in this house, nigga, and you acting like you ain't got no managing here on this particular day, talking back to me about some shit because I ain't let you hang out at that party last night, past your little two in the morning curfew, which was the time that I had to bring my ass home at that time. And she could have just been on some shit. Y'all would probably never heard of Buster Brown's ever because maybe that opportunity wouldn't have came around for a nigga. I'm not glad that shit did. Who else gon' say shit like that? But I'm gonna swing like the ass on a black chick. Nigga, this nigga here, who gon' say that? Yo, he know, he know, he gon' cry, he know. Listen, man, like, and I tell you, I always been a Buster Browns fan, but Lo's put me on, you know, it's always the B-size that most people don't know and people don't hear. This nigga done put me on some shit. I'm like, nigga, because I always said you had the best beats in hip-hop history. Oh, thank you, brother. What that one song that he used just as an interlude that shoulda been the motherfucking single, though. I'm trying to think of the name of it, boy. I think it was just give it to him raw. And you used that as an interlude and one of them video. Yeah, I did make a song out of that record. I know, but it wasn't no single. It wasn't no single. Because how I got up on it is I heard the clip, I think it was in a video when you were sitting in the car and you was playing, I was like, what the fuck is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Found this shit on the album. Big up the mega, mega. Who made, who damn, I think of, Swiss made that beat. Swiss, Shannon's beat. Swiss made that beat. Man, you been having to be up on shit like before it's the shit. Nah, I love how you dig into the catalog though and you know joints. The sketch before, give me some more of some of the funniest shit I ever heard on rap. Cause the nigga on that big cap until a bitch, right? He trying to highlight the chick and he like, bitch. Do you know how frivolous I am? I got a hummer that I only drive to my mailbox and that's all I used before. The nigga said, I got custom made condoms made out of other people's dick. But never be yours. But this is the whole like, the sketch before give me some more, come on. That's some of the funniest shit. We used to say that shit every day at track practice. That shit crazy. I'm in another era, but I still love you. You know what I'm saying? So when you was having your bed like you had some of the most best videos when, see niggas, that video don't be creative. No, nothing. You was actually bringing your words to life. I think the lyricism, niggas don't get you to respect as a lyricist. Hands down. Nobody's fucking with you. I appreciate that. I love how you come on the song. You'll say some shit ain't got a shit to do with it. But you know, at that time, and always for me, like, you know, I think the most important thing when you had the opportunity to get on the collabs especially, because a lot of the times those moments happened on the collabs. It was just about, how do you make it unfair from the first line? Because there gotta be some sort of, I don't give a fuck mentality that's being applied in order for shit like that to even come out your mouth and out your whole face. And for me, I just, I went into these shits having so much fun, because I knew the bars that I was gonna include that was gonna follow that was gonna be the shit that you would critique from a serious place. That's why those type of things would happen in the intro. Their minds wasn't in the bars. We gonna step in on some grand entry shit and just shake the room up and say some wow shit. That's how the intro was on Woo-Haw. The fuck y'all, y'all, y'all got to do with anything. You know what I'm saying? That's a testament to you as a nigga. Who gonna be the nigga? You be like, yo, what are you doing? Word, that's what it was. Who gonna stop it? Who gonna stop it? Who gonna stop it? It's happening to say, y'all, y'all, y'all, niggas need to be saying it. That's it. That's my 2020 thing song. Woo-Haw got you all in check. 2020 got us all in check. I'm telling you, that's what I had to put it in perspective. The lyrics in the song, I gotta bring up some shit that I know a lot of people never even asked you about. When you did the Turn It Up song, and you put one of your, I know like Rod Digger came up with you and under you and studied under you. When you heard her fuck that song go like that, what did that feel like? Which song? The Turn It Up, Touch It. Touch It, yeah, cause Turn It Up was the joint over the night. I'm an old nigga at this point. I just remember the part of the song and that's the name. But you know the one? Touch It. Touch It. Turn It Up. I'm getting it. Touch it. Touch it. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. I'm turning up, kick a bitch in the face and put your nigga in the throat. Then I kick a whole bunch of niggas out of my house. Then we went to the trap, niggas all on the couch. Then I hit another bitch, but I'm kicking her up and I get low, but you can't trust in these niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Touch It. Touch It. Yeah. Yeah. Touch It. Bring it up, niggas. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. When they come in and suck it in and then they're on the throat. I'm getting it. I don't have to know the words. I know the feelings. That's it. I know what it feels like. I'm getting it on now. Fuck the words. Hell yeah. Well, I dig it. The best, bro. The best. She's probably the best female MC bar for bar to me. Wow. Her and Rhapsody and Lauren is my favorite three MCs in the female genetic makeup. But I don't like to call them dopest female MCs. I just think they're incredible MCs because I think they fuck dudes up, too. I think they violently, not in the literal sense, but when I'm speaking in reference to competition, we're not going in there to give you flowers and be nice. I want to reckon with you and we could be the best for friends. I don't want no friendship with you until the song is over, motherfucker. We can beat them. So what I'm saying is if I dig a Rhapsody and Lauren to me, they pen was dangerous. I think there's a lot of moments where I might have sat down and listened to their shit and was directly inspired to start a new song. I would cut off their shit while I was listening to it, especially if I was listening to it in the studio. Because I like playing other people's shit sometimes just to get a vibe. And if I'm listening to one of these songs and they strike up the right chord in me, I'm super driven because I'm so competitive that I will cut their shit off and immediately start a song. Sometimes you go in the studio and you ain't got a vibe. You go in there and sit around four fucking hours, five, six hours. You leave, you ain't come up with shit. That happens sometimes. Shit is like the greatest catch. Is that the name of the movie on the fucking with the niggas that go out there and throw the fucking fishnet in the water and see if they catch the crabs and shit? The deadliest catch, yeah, the niggas. Stupid motherfucker. I knew it. So I'm a fan of that show, personally. But that's like the perfect metaphor, though. Bruh, I would love to see Buster Ryan watching deadliest catch. Yo, this motherfucker caught the most phenomenal fish. Yo, this shit was like diabolical. This motherfucker was huge. I think it was the motherfucking tuna or something. Shit was crazy. Yo, but Digger, I ain't going to fight. There's been times actually in the studio making Flipmode album where she would say shit that was so dangerous on a record. I would be like, I don't know if we should say that. Or let's finish the song tomorrow. Give yourself some time. She went that crazy? Give yourself some time. You know what, man, this studio costs too much. You don't have to come back during the daytime when the money's a little bit low. I'm glad you brought up the Flipmode score. She still does. She still does. By the way, we completed a Flipmode 20-year reunion album. That's coming next year. So. Hey, I'm glad you brought up Flipmode's score. And I'm glad you brought up this legend over there. Come on, we got the Official Street Corner Colonel in the motherfucking building. Flip Star, man. Hey, man. You're a real nigga, man. I'm so glad you brought him because now I don't have to ask you why you didn't. Bruh, this nigga, before we even ever heard this nigga say anything was already a legend to me. Like, this nigga was so funny in the dangerous video. Oh, that's on God. That nigga crazy. The reason why me and Flip was so magical is because Flip don't give a fuck neither. That's the beautiful thing about the way we was molded and shaped from a cultural standpoint. Like, we Caribbean niggas. I'm a Jamaican nigga. He a Trinidadian nigga. So the showmanship that we displayed, a lot of that shit come from dancehall culture. And I don't think people really understand. This whole hip hop shit was birthed from Jamaica. Like, who her is a Jamaican nigga? You get what I'm saying? The whole concept of having big ass speakers stockpiled on top of each other and playing loud ass music outside that come from Jamaica, that's dancehall culture. You know what I'm saying? So, who her brought dancehall culture to the US and gave birth to hip hop culture. The only thing that changed was the type of music that was played and how it was played. But the concept is the same. So the thing about dancehall culture is the critics, the audience, the way they was raised, it was in a way where, and in particular the Jamaican people is just a proud people. Like, them niggas is outspoken like a motherfucker. And if you make people from Jamaica spend their money and come to a concert. They fuck with you. If they fuck with you, they're going to let you know. If they don't fuck with you, they're going to let you know in a way that you ain't going to be able to understand, like, appreciate, digest, or accept. Yeah, I did comedy at Footprints in New York. Wow, that's the whole proud Jamaican. If they like you, they're just standing there. They don't. You don't think the shit going terrible, but then they just be like, keep going. You get one of them. All you need is one. It can be from the most random person in the whole room. But it's just how you know you're good. I think I would have gotten low. I'd have been doing my shit wasted so long. Nah, but if they don't like you, nigga, the orders is loud as fuck. Everybody in the club get busy. Never on T. What? Yeah, but again, like I was saying, the reason why me and Spliff work so well is because Spliff come from the same thing. And when we were shorties and we used to cut school, we was going to the hookie parties, and we was at the block parties on the block and all of that type of shit, we were studying the dancehall shit, even though we was loving hip hop too. The niggas that we studied was Chava Ranks, and Admiral Bailey, and Papa Son, and Lieutenant Stitchie, and Lecturer, these professor nuts, and these dudes that was legends in dancehall culture, and reggae music, and them dudes was the dudes that really taught you, if you would sit back and just look at some of them videotapes and listen to the sound clashes, which was like the battles and shit, and you would see the clashes that the artists would have at Sting. Sting was like a festival that they did every year. And like, Ninja Man would go against anybody and fucking. But the dance, the big clash would happen at the end of the fourth night. It'd be like four days straight of just wilding out 20, 30, 40,000 people out there not going home and just partying. And those clashes would be so detrimental that some of them just led to violence on the stage, and they could get his face bus light on stage, because the disrespect would be so crazy. But the showmanship, the legs kicking all over the place, and they just jumping around in the fucking place, you swinging your fucking hand, you all of that shit? While dudes in hip hop thought it was cool to just walk around with your chain on, and you just hold your johnson, and you think you're too cool to really do some shit and see him a little outside of the norm. Me and Spliff were looking at the niggas and just laughed, because we knew he was going to come up there and mop the floor with their ass. Because when we get up there, we're going to do all of this extraterrestrial shit with all this other dynamite stick energy and fuck niggas up. And that's what was the cheat code all the time. So, you know, I'm for the first time really like getting into like the specifics of where the ingredients came from for me and Spliff. Like attest them into what he was saying, how he felt like Spliff was a legend before Spliff said shit. He was. All right, cool. So it was the same way in East Flatbush, Brooklyn. So when Spliff was mad small, Spliff was always like a loose cannon, a little screw up top. I could tell. I could see your video. Yeah, Spliff-Spliff was crazy, but I ain't just talking about on an entertainment and a showmanship side. Spliff was also a crazy motherfucker on some street shit. So I felt like the talent that he was showing just organically like Spliff one time got into a motorcycle accident and he split his shin bone down this way. It's the same dance we see today, what do you think? Yup, yup. That one leg shit that you see niggas doing to this day like. Spliff created shit, the pop smoke, all them niggas. Yeah, but I ain't going to say he created it because it's a dance hall. Like when, we used to call it like skanking, right? And the old rosters would do this one foot shit, but Spliff now, he turned it into a big thing on the hip hop side because in the funny, so Spliff, he swerving in the street on a fucking spree moped, right? That's when the sprees was the shit. And nigga doing this and doing this and the nigga curved down too far, tried to go around a double park car and he ain't clear the car full speed. Niggas slapping in the back of a double park car. Niggas flip by six foot, seven foot in the sky, land the way he landed the shin bone split down this way instead of crossway. Right. So you look into this nigga leg got a bone sticking out this way, so Spliff, he's here on the street. Spliff the one crying for the niggas, ambulance come. He on the crack. Spliff ain't crying in front of noon niggas. Fuck you talking about. Ambulance come, put Spliff in the back of the ambulance. When the door closed, you had Spliff screaming as the ambulance came out. Oh shit, oh shit. Couple days later, you know, Spliff come out, he got the cash on, big block party outside on the block and scrapped it to our DJ. He was a super young nigga on the block but was nice with the fast shit and tried to learn all the jazzy Jeff transforming shit and all of that, learned all of that. So he was down with a crew called TNT Crush and the niggas had the block locked. I had the neighborhood lock, the system was super stupid so they was getting booked to do all the local shit. And Spliff with his showmanship, he like, fuck my broke leg. I must still pull up in the middle of these niggas that's trying to do all the little damn shit and then they go on the crutches and the niggas just start doing the one and full shit with the fucking cash and niggas is around them in a circle and he's body in this shit with the way he's spinning around on niggas with the crutches on and the cash on and he carrying on and I seen this shit and I like this nigga is incredible. At the time, I'm back and forth between Brooklyn and Long Island, I'm fucking with leaders. And when leaders broke up, I was just like, I'm a need because I was so used to the group and the group supports us the most days, yeah. I was like, all right, I'm gonna do this solo shit but I'm gonna need to figure this out and I'm gonna get this down to fuck with me and just follow my lead because I know what I wanna do. Spliff at the time was still in the street. It's even before I was able to buy my own V. I come to Brooklyn, Spliff all the time, he was getting his money in the street and we're still getting into trouble in the street and then out of jail type of shit and I shot a couple times but I was seeing this talent and I was just like, I hope that I could get or garnish enough success to save this man life because I knew Bruce since I was seven. And now I'm in a position where I got a deal and this might be the only way to save, bro. He was willing to listen though. That's all you know, say that one more time? That nigga was willing to listen, you know what I'm saying? That was the most important part and he was listening at a time when he was already getting his own money because he was giving me rides to the studio. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like when I needed to get to the studio, he was my whip, you know what I'm saying? One time we going to the studio nigga had the grade 325 or the blue one. Was it the blue one? The blue three, bleep three, bleep three. All right, so we ride it to the stool. He ain't bullshitting. BAM, we get into a wild car accident. Nigga left the shit right there. We break out. The next day nigga pulled up in a gray one. Fuck your tone, man. You need a ride to the studio today nigga? Hell no, nigga, not at the last night. I'm sick, I'm sick. Train. I'm havin' in. Nigga, you ain't catchin' no train, no, nigga, no rats. I was getting in that car. Nigga, the rats are bite you. But that's my brother on a whole another level when it comes to just, and he's my elder. He's a year older than me. But it's a beautiful thing when, you know, motherfuckers could respect each other enough to still be able to say, all right, you know what, boss, if this was the street shit, you would have to listen to me. Right. But this music shit, I'ma listen to you. I ain't always gotta be a ride. You know what I mean? Sometimes you sit in the passenger seat and let the person who know how to drive this road drive it, you know what I mean? But you say you saw that in him and was able to recognize his talent. When did you recognize it in yourself? Like when did you write that rhyme that let you know I'm nice? I didn't realize that I was dope. Cause I just always believed that I was gonna be the dopest period. That was just the determination and a divine that I was claiming. Right. But I knew what I wanted to do when I was around, I say about seven, eight years old. I was being babysitted by a Panamanian woman by the name of Aunt Mitzi. She had a son named Alfonzo. My mom's was working nights. And Alfonzo used to do graffiti. Like how you see the shit in the wild style movie. This nigga would leave the crib like two in the morning and then go bomb subways like Pharrell. And he would create his pieces of art that he was gonna spray paint on the subway in this little black book. And the nigga used to make these motherfucking, you know the markers that got the thick ass tip on them? And the gray motherfucker. Yeah, but he was home making them shits with shoe polish bottles and chalkboard eraser. So like, you know the chalkboard eraser from elementary school? They were like felt strips that was together. The nigga would rip one of the felt strips off and the nigga would bend it and he would stick the shit inside the shoe polish. He would empty some of the shoe polish, stick it in the shoe polish, put the top back on, screw it down, shake it up. The shoe polish became the ink to the marker. All right. This nigga was a genius. The nigga go to the subway and was bombing the subways with the marker and that the tip of the marker would be like this thick. So like the thick of the tip, the ill of the fucking tag was that you put up. Then the nigga would bring his bag to spray paint cans and nigga had his mask on like it was COVID back then because you know the spray. Fuck you up. Fuck you up, right. And these niggas would be out there him and like two other dudes. They would go in like a little crew and these niggas would bomb subways and just put them on some incredible shit up. But at two in the morning when he would leave I was too young to go with him. I understood exactly what he was doing. I was in tune with all types of shit. But they had a old school underground hip hop station and I ain't gonna front. I wasn't like seven or eight. I would say I was like nine or 10. This underground hip hop station, WHBI 105.9. Red Alert, the supreme team who made Buffalo Gals. Two Buffalo Gals go around the outside. Round the out, the niggas, the gods was called the supreme team who made that song with Malcolm McLaren who was an artist from Europe became a classic in hip hop. They had a time slot on this underground radio station. Africa Islam was a part of the Zulu Nation under Africa, Bambada. The awesome two Teddy Ted and Special K. So what they would do was they would get on the radio from like two in the morning to five in the morning. A lot of niggas wasn't in tune with that station all the time they was getting on. These niggas used to play the live battles from some of the founders and the pioneers and the architects of this rap shit. Like Kumo D with Battle Busy D. That legendary battle. You know about that battle. Cold Crush Brothers which is who leaders model a whole shit behind against the four some D's who ended up putting records out commercially as a singing group but them niggas was MCs first. So they would play these live battles on the radio that was happening in Harlem World and these different underground clubs throughout the city and we was making pause tapes. So you know when the radio personality talked depending on which one of them time slotted was that they were spinning. You were caught in these battles and shit and when they talk you pause the tape you rewind it a little bit to write where they start talking you wait till they finish and then you unpause the tape to keep recording. So it seemed like you was actually at the fucking battle and you ain't get it off the radio. I used to go to school with them tapes in front the niggas. My little young ass snuck up in the club niggas. I got the live Kumo D and Busy B battle you bitch ass niggas. Yeah. How about this. You want a copy nigga? Five dollars. Five dollars. And I was hustling these incredibly legendary hip hop moments while I was just staying up waiting for Alfonzo to come home and tell me what the story was when he went to do the bombing of the subways because it was nice this nigga would come back with the image stories about police running down on the niggas because obviously he ran the line in the subway and these niggas would come back to the crib and just had these stories and sometimes his homies would come with them. Right. And these niggas would sit there and they talking these shit and I'm sitting there as a little nigga and I'm listening to these niggas and I just was like, yo, this is really hip hop in my face. You know what I'm saying? And I'm listening to the battles and I'm like, I want to rap. I'm looking at this nigga taking pictures of the fucking graffiti pieces when they was finished and how ill they look. I'm like, I want to do graffiti. Right. I'm listening to the way the niggas was deejaying and cutting shit up on the underground stations. I wanted to deejay. I wanted to break dance. I wanted to pop. I learned how to do every fucking thing in hip hop. I just fell in love with it. At that point I knew I was going to be one of the nicest niggas at one of these shits. At something. At one of these elements in the culture, I'm going to be the nicest nigga at it because I just loved it too much. To break dance and shit, I wasn't fucking filming the bruises and the scars. You can't do this one right here. To break dance and have a look. You have to do a rap move. You want to rap by that one. You want to do that bus. You sweat. Hey, nigga. You live with the niggas. You want to rap by that one. You got to try that one. You got to try that one. You got to go fucking niggas out there. You want to rap by that one. About to ask about another one of my favorite songs. Get a life with Rick James. Oh, and now that record is legendary. Shout to Green Lantern on the production. You a great storyteller, by the way. Thank you, King. Thank you. I'll get this. I'm going to listen to this nigga say, hey, you got one of them walking freemen, boy. Big ass eggs and that shit. Oh, man. You want to do my documentary, I got it. Walking freemen, boys, you narrate my time. He's doing my life story. You know, if this nigga was born, right? Holy shit, I'm going to be the boy. No C-section badge on him. No C-section. No C-section. No C-section. The way it opened up was so magnanimous that it would break your seat. Yo, Shane, you needn't tap the pusher, though. Go. I ain't tap the pusher, though. Chico did. He's big. I think it's his great first. And I ain't even going to cap, though, like, my favorite video of all time. You and Johnny Jackson. Favorite. Thank you, bro. Go back to the Rick James shit. Go back to the Rick James shit. That's got to be next. OK, but he got it. But he got to talk about the jacket. Like, the nigga closest thing to Jackson. I just want to know if she's smelling like that. I see what she's smelling. Beautiful. I know that mold. Is it real? Fuck you. Is that mold real? Because I seen it on the other side one time. Busted like that. I wasn't looking at that. He like that. I wasn't looking at the mold. I was looking at your mouth, man. He's important. Is that my nigga, man? What's my favorite? You. All right, so with James first, they see you crazy than a motherfucker. Green Lantern sent me the beat. I'm on Aftermath. And I'm probably like two years into working on this album, The Big Bang. And when I heard the record, I didn't know what the fuck to do with myself. I just thought it was one of the greatest gifts to be bestowed on me as a blessing. Because the beat was the perfect marriage with the vocals. And you know, when you hear the original, it's a whole other bounce, temple-wise and timing-wise. So I got to give it up all the way to Green Lantern, the way he married the new bounce, which is a double-time, slow-down version of what the original upbeat tempo was on the joint, which allowed me to do my little speed rap skedaddle on the shit the right way, but on some cool shit. But I knew what I felt when I heard it. It was instinctual, the shit wasn't even on thought. I immediately got to the joint because I wanted to make sure there wasn't no room for possibility or confusion. Nigga, you're not giving this record to nobody else. So let me let me let you hear this shit with me already done, the song done. I'm on it, it's mine, off the market, my nigga. When Dre heard the motherfucker, yeah, it was nothing else to discuss. Dre said, give me the session. So gave the session to Dre and a lot of the additional music and chords and all of that other, that's, you know, the cascade dishwashing like with sparkle was added to the motherfucker. Mad scientist, Dr. Dre. Great as hell. You know what I'm saying? With Dre get to it, it just turns this shit into some motherfucking IMAX movie theater shit. So, you know, when I seen what Dre took it to, it just was like one of the highlight moments on the Big Bang album. And I loved the shit out the record. So had to call my man that could bring that cinematic shit to life, Chris, the director, Chris Robinson, the legendary. And what you know, he also did the Kovacier video for me and he did the me and Mariah video as well. So all of my moments with Chris Robinson were special, just like all of my moments with Hype Williams was unbelievable. And I can't even front like the beauty of what's getting ready to happen with my new album and the visuals that I shot for him. I can honestly say proudly that the videos that y'all have known and grown to love them all fucker for, we took it all away back to that shit. Oh, that's beautiful. You know what I'm saying? Like it ain't none of that. It's too late for me to compromise at this stage in my life. Like I'm just married to my way. Right. You're way perfect, man. And my way, it's always worked for me. And I ain't trying to fix shit that ain't bro. Right. We grew up on all your shit. Like it's moments that are pinpointed in our life with Buster Ryan songs and shit like that. And it's like, just know that you appreciated for all your creativity and individual power. That's for you. Gotta give you a fly away from everyone. We always fuck with you because we know you ain't gonna be sounding like nothing else. Oh man. Like I said, you don't give us those moments that you know, jump out and kick you in the ass. That's great. So what made you new? Like you was a like fast rocker. Like you don't change your shit. You just adjust to the beat. And what made you think that you? I was like, who do you to go up my nigga? You don't rap like that. You rap like Buster and Buster is your bussing. Thank you. So what made you new? Like I can't rap that slow, man. That shit I can't do. Well, to be honest with you, going back to the dancehall culture, like I was telling you, there's a two artists that I first ever seen do the million words in one sentence in like two seconds. Right. This one artist named Papa Son and this other artist named Lieutenant Stitchie. Them two dudes were so fucking crazy. I think back in 86, they did a sting, which again is that festival. The fourth day? Yeah. They did the fourth day and 86 is a clash against each other, battle against each other. And it's different then than it is now because now niggas that get up there and they get so flagrantly disrespectful, niggas is getting a head bust on stage. But them dudes, they would actually rehearse their battles. You know what I'm saying? Like they would do shit, one motherfucker do a speed rap, the next motherfucker do a speed rap. And they'll come in together and have a verse together that they say in the same shit, line for line word for word, just to see who gonna keep up with each other or who gonna fuck up and get a word off and mess up from the shit in front of 20, 30,000, 40,000. So it was a collective effort even though they was battling a display skill set and how sharp one motherfucker was over the other. But I saw that shit one day on one of them hooky party days, cutting school. And I wasn't such an amazement looking at this shit, I just wanted to do it too. And at that time I wasn't hammering no rappers do it, no MCs wasn't doing it. I have to say the only people that was fucking with it on some rap shit was the originators. And the originators was the crew that Hove was down with after jazz up. You know what I'm saying? When they did the Hawaiian Sophie joint, they was on their speed rap shit. Dice effects too, would you say that? Dice effects is way after that. Jay, he was on his speed rap shit too? Jay, he was on his shit then. He started out with that. He rapped fast on what song is that, can I get a, he rapped. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Hove was on that shit really early, like he was on it before. Niggas was actually commercially putting records out just from the crew he came from. And he was making records with them. I don't think he was actually one of the originators. He was just, they all fucked with each other just being Brooklyn. And Hove was always kind of moving on his own shit. But you know, at the time, again, my first influence was Lieutenant Stitchie Papasan. And then me and Hove ended up going to school together and Biggie. And Hove was on that shit with the originators. And the process in me trying to get my shit together with it, me and Hove ended up having a battle. Yeah, I heard about this legendary battle. I ain't never heard of it. You guys, you got to break that one down. Wait, wait, whoa. She hit it. No, no, no. I thought we was about to talk about Janet Jackson, but since you brought it up. Now you're talking about Janet, but I want to know who, who, who, who, who, who. But, but, but. Like, like, like, like, I'm, I'm gonna lead up to that because ultimately Hove got the best of the battle in that moment because I was, I was just starting to figure out how to master my fascination with the speedbap. He was already on it. Yeah, he was already putting shit out, doing it at a incredible level of skill set and was displaying that shit like he was just water spilling all over the place, just taking shape and form and now the way he felt like it because he had already been on his shit with it, you know what I'm saying? Me now at that point with my competitive ass, you know, I always wanted to have my rematch, you know what I'm saying? It didn't happen, which was fine because I ended up, I ended up getting, getting my skill set developed to the point where I don't, I don't think nobody want to fuck with it now. No. And I don't think nobody wanted to fuck with it for a long time. I mean, it's interesting though because there's a lot of incredible speedwrapping MCs. Twister. Only two. Only two, I feel like they can fuck with you. I'm gonna be honest though, Technon a dangerous motherfucker too now. Technon, I kinda like the Godfatherness, I don't think. Technon, that's. OG, I fuck with you. I mean, you know, you gotta go and do your homework, playboy. Uh-oh, uh-oh, Tim is out, Tim is out. I know, take nine, two, don't, Tim is out. I'm gonna warn you, this ain't, I'm gonna be honest with you, beloved. I don't know what record you heard me get on with the MC and got my ass whooped. Oh no, I ain't, I ain't say you, you're the gold. Take an L, whatever you want to call it, my ass whooped, take an L, lose, I don't get who it was with. You give, get back to me on that after you do that on record. No, I ain't say, I ain't say no record, I mean, I buy it, don't you? But you said that, what you just said about it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't take anything on that. Every record you got on, you with the gold. No, King, but you just said it. I said a nigga named Technon. Okay, yeah. When he come to rapping real fast, he might get you. Okay, see, now, now, and I understood you perfectly. More definitely. Technon is my brother. No, they're. There was absolutely not too many that could fuck with him. But I think if you speak to Technon directly about what you just said, rightfully so, he's supposed to believe that he's the nicest on the records that we've got on the gather though. I ain't never heard of that. Okay, see, that's what I'm getting ready to tell you. You might need to go visit Worldwide Chopper. Damn. You might need to go and listen to that record. That sound like a gangsta ass amusement park. I'm Worldwide Chopper. Worldwide Chopper. It's Worldwide Chopper. He's gonna ride the AK, nigga, that's what I'm talking about. You gotta excuse me, OG, I grew up, and listen to the gospel. Nail on the murder. I got a question. I'm gonna lie in the woods and all that. Oh, he, oh, he. She's going crazy. Speaking on that, like, speaking on rap and what other people, some of my favorite albums that she was on that a lot of people might not know is the Violator album. Oh, absolutely. The Violator album. That's the piece of Chris Lattie. Yes, sir. We love you, we miss you, Ken. Well, it was so many MCs. It was a logo for that Violator. Oh, man, thank you, my brother. Like, it was so many MCs on the Violator albums. Like, what type of motivation did it give you to be amongst all of them great MCs like that? Because, you know, you had LLU. I mean, it was crazy. So when you went in the studio and heard them verses from all of them guys, like, how did that motivate you to push yourself to become a better MC? Before the Violator albums, I was fans of them dudes that ended up coming to Violator. LL is the reason I wrote my first rhyme. LL. My very first rhyme, I wrote, I was 12. The name of that shit was called Pulse Rate. LL made me write my rhyme. That shit had all type of big fucking words because that's the way he used to rhyme. You just, back then it was cool to sound like a hard sloth nigga. And being intelligent was a cool fucking thing. Yeah, because his rap was sloth. You know what I'm saying? And the niggas ain't cursing any records. They was busting their ass and wasn't even cursing on any shit. I eliminate parks, cut them up in chunks. You know what I'm saying? So neatly. Fucking you up and wasn't even cursing. So it was like some fly shit to me. And you know, it was everything. It was the whole embodiment. He was hip hop when you just looked at the motherfucker. No, rapper can rap. The tangles you do. I take a muscle bound man and put his face in the sand. And also like, yeah, niggas that shit. You know what I'm saying? And that shit talk that he had, it just, I believed everything he said. You know what I'm saying? Like them niggas made you believe it. So it was just me watching that shit and just being a dude that took all of their pictures from the word of magazines and the black beat magazines. And I was just hanging on my favorite niggas on my wall where I came and slick Rick and LL and Chuck Dean and Public Enemy. All them niggas was on my wall. Run DMC, Fat Boys. Every one of them was on my wall. I wake up and I just be in my room looking at these niggas every day. Go to see Brown Crept from leaders of the new school. His room was the same way. And we be in them niggas, we be in Brown Room and we was writing the leader songs. Most of the leader songs we wrote was in Charlie Brown Room and it's Crept because his room just had every nigga you wanted to be like on the wall. So you just look at these niggas, the hip hop mural and museum of niggas. So being a fan of them before it made it even more incredible when we all ended up on the same team in the same clique because now we like the fucking Avengers nigga. Violator was the Avengers in hip hop. And it wasn't no clique, whether it was a group of MCs that were signed to a label like Rocker Fellow or Rough Rider, Death Row. There wasn't no management company like Violator neither. And it was just something else going on because Violator started, it was given birth to after Rush Management ended. Chris Lighty was a management rep at Rush Management. So under Leo Cohen and Russell Simmons when they had Rush Management and Def Jam at the same time, they was managing a lot of the shit they had signed to Def Jam. We ain't gonna get into that. No, because you know at this point I'm gonna tell you where we know what that is. Right, right, right, right, right, right. It's like what we doing about it. It was okay, it was fine. Must have left. They mastered, they had shit so fucking red carpet rolled out for each nigga that was lined up with them that you wasn't even missing bread if shit was conflicts or whatever because it was like just the money was just so stupid. But the point that I'm trying to make is they dismantled Rush Management and I think Leo just came in one day and told Chris Lighty and all the other management reps y'all could pick from the litter. Take whatever y'all favorite acts are and go start y'all own shit, do what y'all want. So Chris took leaders, tribe, daylight, jungle brothers. Started Violator. Daylight left, tribe left, jungle brothers left. Leaders broke up. I stayed with Chris. So he was all that I knew. So it wasn't like I even was comfortable enough gambling fucking with somebody else. I ain't know nobody else like that and I wasn't comfortable with nobody else like that. Besides Chuck D and Hank Shockley that's who gave birth to me. I got my name, Buster Rimes from them niggas and leaders of the new school came from Chuck. Chuck gave me my name, Chuck gave leaders our name but he wasn't trying to manage nobody. So I still needed Chris. Now I was the only Violator artist. Woo-ha come out, golden four weeks, platinum and eight weeks. The coming first album come out in 96. Golden six weeks, platinum and two months. Niggas is looking at this shit after everybody was questioning whether or not Niggas is, and then at this point the whole question was, you know all this nigga Buster Rimes be doing on records and screaming and with this rar rar the Dungeon Dragon shit all the motherfucking time do we want to hear a whole album when this nigga doing that? No that nigga had a whole bunch of shit doing album jams, telling rap. But this is before the album came this is how niggas was talking. So when the album came and we was able to get it right and the success came with it and shit started sticking against the wall and the numbers was on the scoring board niggas respected it in a whole another way. That's when the attraction and the appeal of Violator started to look sexier and no other dynamic the artist, niggas was like, oh we see our niggas? Niggas didn't even know that. We might need to pull up. Right, that was you who started that Dungeon Dragon. Who didn't know? The younger generation of hip hop. No I couldn't agree with that. You know that shit is 29 years ago. But that's what I'm saying. I'm 29 man. A lot of people, that's the younger generation heard it first when Nicki Minaj said it on the verse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get what I mean, like that brought it back to be like what you didn't know where that came from. So that was that moment. And I appreciated her for doing that. You know what I'm saying? I really, She the go too. I appreciated that record and I actually got on the remix of that record it never officially became a remix but I sent her the verse and she fucked with it and she actually brought me out at the Hammerstein ballroom in New York one time to do that verse live at a show that she had one time. And I got very, very fucking out of control on that record. I was in love with that fucking record so I blacked on that shit. One of my particular favorite verses. But again, being that violator and then seeing the success that I was able to acquire with Kris being at the head of the helm and then Mona Scott came in like right around my second solo album when Disaster Strikes Will Put Your Hands and all of that shit came. And it was Mona and Kris. Love the hip hop Mona. Yeah, Mona ran. She deepened the hip hop guys. Mona, Mona, Mona ran, Violator with Kris. The huge shit that Mona contributed to Violator was she wasn't only making sure that this music shit was moving and shaking the right way with Kris. She brought the whole component of the branding and the movie shit with me. Like the Mountain Dew shit that I did back then. Mona broke it down. Higher learning and all of our movies. Mona was bringing all of that. She was making me go to the readings. She was lining me up with the casting agency, the agencies that was bringing them opportunities to the table. That was Mona. You know what I'm saying? Kris was making sure that the renegotiations for the record deals was in several motherfucking Ems and the publishing deals was disrespectful Ems, too. I love trying to get some disrespect. Shut up! You bitch-ass nigga! All this respectful money we've been getting. You gotta get some disrespectful stuff. Y'all make your niggas get nasty. What the fuck, man? Fuck you, you bitch-ass, you bum-ass nigga. I'm a bum-ass nigga, Mona. You bum-ass nigga. Can't talk to him, fuck off. Look at this for me. You bum-ass nigga. To talk to you, nigga's crazy. He got a cape and everything. I'm gonna get crazy. He got disrespectful Ems. I got that, what you about to do, Mona? Right. What's that for this? Fuck that. Yeah, that management company, 22 years, I never looked the fuck with another manager. And the only reason that I have a new manager now, which I got a big up incredibly legendary Steve Rifkin who founded Loud Records, a small manager, and the legendary Abe Blitz who used to manage Dice Effects is my co-manager. So I got some real iconic hip hop motherfuckers on my team that has been a part of my growth for the entire journey. And if Chris didn't die, I probably would still be with Chris, you know what I'm saying? And once Chris passed, the whole violator just dismantled completely. You know, Chris was an incredibly significant leader, you know what I'm saying? And that was a replaceable leadership quality, you know what I mean? He was the heartbeat. He was the veins. He was the whole shit, you know what I'm saying? So it couldn't move. It couldn't continue without him, which is unfortunate because, again, we had Voltron, Transformers, and Avengers all mixed together. Right. You still in the picture. You got two of the Infinity Stones on right now. That nigga got two of them motherfuckers on right now. They going crazy. And my Jesus is chillin'. Yeah. Two of the Infinity Stones. I've been looking like this nigga got on M rules in the movie. That nigga going crazy. Might be called Captain Planet in this motherfucker. You get them up to the sky. We got a backtrack where they didn't even get to go to the next round. Come on, the mole, man. Come on. All right. But you match with the mole. What you want first with Janet? How that whole thing came together? Listen, that whole thing with y'all getting them suits. All that shit is too crazy. What's it going to be? The craziest record ever, my God. Thank you, kid. Right, craziest. Thank you, Ben. I mean, that was a dream come true moment for me. I done told the story before. I love Janet since as early back as I can remember when she was penny on good times. Right. You know what I mean? And then when she was a Willis girl in different strokes and shit. And you know, just all of the different moments. But I think the moment that really just was mind blowing for me was just to hear her say my name. I know what you mean. It's so many. I just want to hear my name. I'm just going to hear my name. I just wanted just to know that I was on her radar. She knew you. That was crazy. To hear my name come out of her mouth when she did the interview with Angie Martinez at the time, the legendary voice in New York, boss lady Angie Martinez when she was at 97. I think Janet was on tour for the Velvet Rope album. And she was doing promo for the Velvet Rope tour. She was performing at the Garden. So she went and did an interview with Angie Martinez. And I'm driving in the city and Angie asked her what rapper that she never worked with before, that she's interested to work with. Because she had never collabed with a rapper at this point in time outside of Heavy D. She had already did shit with Heavy D. So after the Heavy D collabs, she ain't really mess with no rappers for a long period of time. And I guess Angie thought that that was interesting. So she asked her. And then she just said, I would like to work with Busta Rhymes. And she ain't saying no other rapper's name. That fucked me up so crazy. I bet you almost looked crazy like you did what? I pulled over. Because I knew I was going to do something wrong. No, you got to call somebody. Niggas, I did, I did my nigga. What cockroaches would it carry about? Niggas. I called Mona immediately. And I was like, Mona, I just heard Janet say my name on the radio. That's crazy. I need you to get in touch with Janet and tell Janet that I have a song for ready to go immediately. Drop my blood. She sounded so good. I ain't have no song though. You just had it. It was the place game. It was the place game. Niggas was capping. I was super capping. I ain't have no song. But I wasn't losing this moment. So Janet, Mona got in touch with Janet's people. And then they worked it out for us to get on the phone. I was nervous in the mall, fuck it, at the time. Because I didn't want to say nothing wrong. That was going to ruin the opportunity. Kept it short and sweet. And immediately got to trying to find the fucking song. So we ended up finding the record. And the young lady that wrote the hook to the beat, she killed it. Killed it. And then at that point, I said, all right, let me do this little speed rap dance to this shit real quick and get this rap over to Janet so she can hear the song. Did that got the song to the queen? She heard the joint. The feedback was amazing. Now it was time to book the studio session. Book the studio session. She chose the studio because, you know, obviously shit got to be on Obama levels for her to pull up. Security had to come in advance the whole situation and make sure it was appropriate for her to walk into that space. Did the research on what kind of flowers she liked, what kind of candles she liked, what kind of niggas she liked, what kind of fragrance she liked. And had everything lined up. Right. Then we get to the studio. And she came a little bit after I got there. And when she got there, when I heard she was there, I left out the room because I had another room so I could finish my raps. And I knew she needed to record so I didn't want to be a man not being productive while she was laying her verses, stacking her vocals and all of that. So I said, I'm gonna go on another one. I could just get to my shit so as soon as she's ready and she says she done, I could be done. So I come in there, I say hello to her, we greet, hug, singing her praise real quick. I got the fuck up out of there fast. Oh, fuck up the bag, no netting bag, I see it. And I'm just trying to keep my mouth shut because niggas don't know what this is happening. Right. So I'm going through some shit because it's like, you know what you finna do? I want to tell every motherfucking body but niggas can't say nothing. Lovely, why no Instagram, niggas don't laugh. Wasn't none of that. What, niggas, what? What's up my niggas, you dumb ass niggas. This is what you want to say, Janice, say it. You dumb ass niggas. What? I call y'all back. Fuck you, man. Oh, these niggas. Fuck them up. What? Yo, yo, you think a DC is crazy. Janet blazed the shit out the record incredibly. Thank you so much, Janet, to this day. I'm forever grateful. Yeah. We killed that, we killed it. One of my favorite records I listen to all the time. Record get done. Now we gotta come with the crazy video. I'm a movie buff, so I'm watching Terminator 2. I'm seeing a liquid robot moving all over the place and shit and I'm like, this is the eldest shit ever. If I could pull this off, cause you know, put your hands, your minds, cause see it's coming to America. Dangerous is motherfucking lethal weapon. Janet video was Terminator 2, so I was just taking my favorite movies and just putting myself in the movies, you know what I'm saying? I'm sorry, he said, I'm not there, like, man. You had a game away and now you go back and watch it and you're like, damn that nigga is doing the Terminator 2. I'm doing Terminator 2. So when we did the video, before we did the video and the budget came back for the video, I was like, you can't nickel them down no situation with Janet Jackson, nigga. So we gotta spend money, aye. But I definitely wasn't thinking it was gonna be this type of bag. All right. This is a 10, 2.4 million dollar video budget. Yeah. So at that time, it was just. Man, nigga's getting 25,000. Girl. Yes, dad. Nah, that's a little shit. Yes, dad. We gonna go to the gas station by some white tees and then these niggas stand in the liver room and jump around. Niggas, I'm gonna buy the camera. You press the car. You come at it, nigga. Right. Three scenes. In the house, on the porch, and in the yard. In the yard. Whole video. What? But yeah, 2.4 million for the video. The production that was built, all of that silver room shit with the walls moving in when I was doing all of the little robot shit while I was filming. All of that shit was built from the ground. Like, it wasn't like, you just green-screening shit at the time. We was building these production sets in its entirety. The only thing that was of special effects was the liquid shit that I was morphing in and out of. But a lot of that budget came from this special effects company that we used at the time, which was the hottest effects company because they did the effects for the Titanic movie. And at that time, they was super on fire because the Titanic movie went like 10 fucking Oscars and some crazy shit like that. Crazy shit. And they took the company was called Digital Domain. That was a special effects company. But the video took about three, four months to get completed because of the special effects. But when I walked on a set and the dress that Janet got on, the whole ensemble, I walked on a set and, you know, she had these long nails and she had these little rings on them, the end of the nails and different size rings all over the shit. So I'm looking at the situation and I'm trying to understand. She was like, these is cock rings. What the fuck, my nigga? You should have let it into that, my nigga. My nigga, I'm just cock rings. Nigga, she said this to me and I was just like, wow, all right. So what the fuck are they? Well, it was cock rings. Cock rings. Yeah, dick rings. Yeah, nigga, stop talking that talk while I'm on this set, man. I just don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm on this set, man. I just wanted to say it one time just so I could put it out here. I didn't know. No, but I didn't know neither. I'm like, did he blow on you? My nigga, I said the same shit. I was trying to understand. I was confused. But see, the song was about, you know, making each other wet, wet dreams, all of that shit. So it's some sexual shit. But I didn't know she was going to go into this extreme with the fit and the wardrobe. But when she explained all of that, and then we saw the designer do when the outfit was done, because the doodle created it. He took that shit home. He took it back. You know what I'm saying? Like, even though we had to pay to make it, none of it got still on this. I'm taking this outfit back home. Fuck what you talking about. You can keep all the other shit. This design is legend, though. And we respected it. But Janet just made, she just put me in her own other mindset when she said that's what it was. So, you know, and then her willingness to interact with me in front of the camera the way she did, it was really like some beautiful shit. I don't want to put a condom on like that. Don't touch my face. Yo. I bet when Busta Ryan left that set, they were like, what the fuck are we supposed to do with these moving ass walls? Yo, we left all that shit. I ain't seeing where we going to put that. But at the end of the day, the shit turned out so magical, bro, that I don't know if I ever felt that. That magic again. I don't know if I felt it like that. That was that. You know, I've done some incredible records with some of the most prestigious, iconic queens to ever do it in this music shit. You know, me and Mary J. We got a bunch of collabs. I was blessed and honored to be rocking with her since her first album, 411. She put me on that. And Missy and Mariah, you know what I'm saying? Big up to Jaune too. They was on my first album. Not slight nothing from none of these beautiful queens and I'm going to continue to make iconic moments with them moving forward. They ain't a remix without you on that bit, bro. Oh, no. Especially long remakes, maybe a lot of niggas. She must probably be like, yeah, I'm going to wait to that boy to mention the niggas. I don't even care. We ain't as much to coming on. No, thank you, bro. But you know, it's, it's, it's, throughout the 29 years of doing this, man, it's been so many legendary moments, man. It's, it's, it's, we're going to probably need a two, three, four part series with the interviews, with this interview because it's just so much golden moments to share. You know what I'm saying? The, the jannyship was incredible too. But then you know, it's like shit, man. I'm the first rap dude, Stevie Wonder, collabed with on the Big Bang album. Man. Yeah. I got to grab my pen. Hey, Stevie, you see how fucking with you fuck what you know Stevie. Stevie. He gon' hear about that. Yeah, he gon' hear about it. This know as a young nigga fucking with your style. You know that. Yeah, yeah. Stevie, it hurts. It's like who is this person? I must be around you. Yeah, that's, that's my tourist big brother though. That's my big tourist brother. And, and we actually got some new magic in the works coming soon. I hope I, I, I, I, I, we got, we got another monster getting ready to come soon. It's, this is probably my, my third collab with him because I also did something on his time to love album that came out through Universal Motown a few years ago. And, you know, he, he fuck with young bus rhymes. I'm the young bull. I'm the young tourist brother of his. So, you know, he, he put his arm around me and gave me guidance and he schooled me to shit both professionally and personally, you know what I'm saying. So, it's, it's, it's, it's these kind of blessings that I done, I keep getting bestowed on me to be able to, you know, look at these moments and be like, how could you not continue to have the passion and the fire to want to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas is in trouble if they think that I'm going to stop. Fuck you man stop. Fuck you talking about bum ass nigga. Bum ass nigga. Fuck you, fucking bum ass. Fuck you with these niggas. Fuck you with these niggas. Fuck you man. Fuck you man. Fuck you. Fuck you man. Fuck you man. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you man. Fuck you man. too much. I've taken 11 years to finish this new album. In addition to what the new album is going to be as an experience in itself, and it's called Extinction Level Event Two. Oh yeah, because Extinction Level Event One was cold as hell. Thank you brother. And it's ill that the first song you bring up is not what you ask it for. Don't give it to me, bro. You know what I'm saying? That was on Extinction Level One. That's a 22 year old go-out. So 22 years later, you know, we looking at the shit that's going on, I've been trying to tell you niggas all these albums. What they talking about? I've just been trying to tell niggas about this time that's coming. Real hip hop. Real hip hop. Oh, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. You already know. So check this out. We had the Big Family gift from Goodymobo that you told us about the exact moment when you brought the Behold of Pale Horse. And now tell me the story. We used to be, first of all, big up to Dallas Austin. Yeah, real big ups. Super duper big up to Dallas Austin. I don't think people understand how significantly important he is to this culture and how the shift of the young black executive was ushered in really via him. A lot of niggas don't understand that. Dallas Austin was 18 years old with a four million dollar facility called Dark Studio and had like six, seven million dollars worth of cars parked in front of that motherfucker at 18. At the time, my nigga, he had TLC three million four million sold, another bad creation, two three million sold, boys demand ten million sold. This nigga was smacking the shit out of everybody and was still a child. And nobody was doing that. Motherfucking right. He was saying that shit without saying it. With his bread and with his resume and Clive Davis loved Dallas. Big up to Clive Davis too. But he loved Dallas. Dallas, when I broke up with leaders, Dallas reached out to me and told me to come to the A. Dallas gave me the flip mode logo. Niggas don't even know that. I got the flip mode logo from Dallas because Dallas heard about Rampage and he was like, I love what you're doing, boss. I think it's time for you to become an executive though. Like let's do something with Dallas. I mean with Rampage, I'm gonna sign you to give you a production deal through Rowdy. Just start like your little label shit and let's put out Rampage. So I was like, I'm fucking with everything you're talking about. I'm still trying to figure out my next move because I still didn't have the courage enough to want to do a whole solo album. So I got on my feature game and when the leaders broke up from 93 to 96, my way of getting to the bag quick because I was the first one to have a child and leaders of the new school. So I had to find ways to feed my son. And I couldn't get it no more off for the leaders of the new school shit because Niggas was over. So I'm calling the studios to find out who in there. And at the time I was already popping from scenario. So Niggas wanted to hear from Buster Roms. So I called Niggas Studio Sessions to find out who in there. This is how the feature game got by. Who in there bitch? I'm pioneering the feature by the way Niggas. Hold up! I just said, I just said, I just said I pioneered the feature. Fucking talking about nigga talk! Yo shit! I demeaned that shit you bum ass nigga put me on your shit. Cause this is a bum ass nigga right here. I feel like I'm crap. Move! Now but the way that used to happen was you know I'm trying to make sure I find money. Feed my child. Call the studio Sessions to see who in there. Find out who in there. Go to the bud spot. At the time this was before. Niggas just smoking indigo, sex skunk, chocolate tie. That type of shit. Everybody loved to burn the chocolate though. I take a hundred dollars. About five, twenty bags. Go get the slowest burning cigars. Them shit was called white owls. Still to the day. Slowest burning cigars, my nigga. I don't like them. I don't like them shit. But they burn slow. God damn nigga. They ate some pussy taste like a blunt. They sligging crazy. Your cooch you taste like a white owl. Yeah but I would go in these sessions and I pop up and I would just had a weed steaming and niggas would smell it. Everybody wants smoke. Everybody wants smoke. Pass that shit around. You ain't leaving without your bud and all the niggas are smoking. You in the corner, writing some shit. I get them doing a little gun, a little dungeon dragon growling in the corner. Niggas won't hit with the fuck I'm up to. I'm talking to myself. That's brilliant. Don't fuck with me. As I finish down doing these niggas, I'm popping up. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Keep smoking. They didn't forget what they verse in it. So how you did it wasn't like... Yeah, I'm doing all of that. Exactly, nigga. Just like that. After I write my shit, I'm saying it to myself. But then I get to moments where I gotta do what I actually gotta do on the verse in a boat. So if I got the dungeon dragon growling in the corner, so I'm going to do it loud enough for the room to hear it, but not hear it. Then they want to hear what I'm saying. Okay, now turn the mic on and you go do it in a boat. I get in there, I spit my shit. They can't hear the song without that verse no more. Right. We come back in a vocal, in a control room playing the shit three, four times in a row, niggas is high and fine and everybody happy to verse stupid. I leave Chris Lighty my nigga listen to this joint I did last night with such and such. Can you send that invoice for me please brother? He send the invoice, the lawyers get the talking come pick up the check from the label, do that three, four times a week that shit was very fucking liquid and shit to you. And I didn't have to split it with no crew and I didn't have to recoup it from no budget. It was just my money for my mother fucking work that I was putting in, just beating the pavement and grinding. But you know at the end of the day it was just doing all of that led to Dallas seeing the way I was moving and it was just like, nigga you want some shit while you got this momentum let's put out an artist but it's yours. I come out here, come to the rowdy office I needed a company name and I just went back to the scenario remix and I was like open up your mouth if you want the food to get rude, flip mode because I'm in the mood yeah man that's how it goes if I didn't get drunk up blood coming out the nose give me your band aid so I said flip mode in that verse so I said I'm going to take flip mode as the company name and I told Dallas Dallas came back with like six flip mode logo options and I chose the one that the world ended up seeing so that's the first thing that's big up Dallas for that because Dallas he helped me evolve into being an executive Dallas did the same thing with Puff when Andre Hurrell let Puff go Dallas called him and told him come to Darf studio come to the aid bruh introduce you to Clive Davis bad boy was born Dallas had everything to do with that too because Dallas was the plug to Clive because Dallas was the nigger that Clive was going to to get over the millions of records so his hand was hotter than a motherfucker when EPMD broke up Eric Sherman I'm a fan come to the aid that's how Eric came down and ended up in the aid started Deaf Squad shit started producing for illegal little Jamal and Malik remember them dudes there was a group that was there was two little young boys at the time they was like 12 and 13 years old these little niggas was like terrorists though they was in the strip club they asked the strip chick to come back to the studio with them when they come to the store they see these little niggas it's around niggas like Puff and Buster Rhymes and Dallas Austin chicks was fascinated by shit like that they drank and they get drunk smoke weed knocked out on a full ton of some shit and 13 people get you in the club these little niggas would take their cargo crash their shit up bring it back and I had them wake up from they sleeping off they high thinking they crashed their own shit I said these little niggas is illegal Dallas said that's what we're going to name these niggas illegal the name of the group became illegal Eric Sherman started producing all their shit and Dallas was producing their shit it was hard little Jamal ended up with Def Squad you know what I'm saying and again Dallas was very instrumental in the evolution of Puff just being a dope A&R from Mary and Jodesy into becoming an executive a CEO of his own company same shit with Eric Sherman same shit with Buster Rhymes so back to Gip and Goodie Mom all of that time when we was in dark studio we used to have these building sessions because I'm a member of the 5% nation of the gods and earths so I was always into knowledge of self and just researching high sciences and things of that nature and Gip was always there Gip was the first Goodie Mom member that I knew he was always there because the mother of his child the beautiful and incredible Joy she was working very closely with Dallas at the time so I was always super cool with Joy she's a royal empress to me as far as talent and just as a human being one of the dopest I think that the one of it I lose all control you don't get your flags down and Gip is like my motherfucking brother that's the god George Clinton at the time was coming through and he was busting our head with so much high science because he started hitting us with shit about how when they was doing a parliament Funkadelic concert and they was landing a mothership on stage that Fred used to pull up to try to investigate what was these niggas trying to tell people because that Area 51 shit was supposed to be classified was doing that shit in their shows and you know talking that shit in their music and it just seemed like they was tapping into some shit that was obviously letting the powers that being feel like they needed to pull up so they don't just pull up they need to figure out the fuck you getting into with this talk so it was like George was sharing those stories with us and the crazy shit was as he was sharing stories with us he put me on to this book by William J. Cooper I think he was a former naval briefing team member he ended up getting killed too he didn't agree but the ill shit is this book was the book that really took what I was already dealing with as 5% dealing with the God Nation the Nation of the Gods and Earths and studying my shit and combining it with this shit which was some whole other shit and it just changed my whole perspective which is what turned my albums into the coming when disaster strikes extinction level event anarchy Genesis it ain't safe no more Big Bang like this continuing storyline that's connected by the silver lining never deviating from what the concept is and what the content is and I'm just adding these new different chapters to this book of Eli you dropping knowledge on me so it's like George Clinton did that to me that's the effect he had on me between the shit that he was schooling me with and that book and Gip being that he was around this shit I gave Gip the book and he took it to them Goody Maw all of my brothers over there Koo, Joe, Silo and all and when he when they got that book it just turned them into something else cell therapy was born and they started dealing with the fucking rules knocking at the window and in the videos niggas is paying for their food with the barcode scans and you dealing with what's going on here with these niggas talking about these mandated vaccinations and all of this wild shit and Trump at the fucking debate talking about we can get 200 vaccinations done a day because I'm going to deploy the military to give it to niggas and what the fuck military niggas got to do with giving the nigga a vaccination shot is beyond me but I'm just saying this information was fascinating back then never knowing whether or not it was going to be true or come to life but just the idea and the what if of it was fucking with niggas and I was drawn to that shit so you know gipping them took it they ran with it even outcast I believe started to really get into that shit because they were southern play-alistic Cadillac music at first and then they turned into this ATL Tramp Tramp nigga had a shoulder pad and a marching boot what are you doing what are you doing fur draws legendary shit all of that too is the showmanship you know what I'm saying it was showmanship it was not being comfortable trying to just do the regular nigga shit with the baseball fittings in the baseball jersey and the Tim Boots we could do that all day but there was a nation of motherfuckers that really want to go out there and show niggas how they really feel and how they really be thinking and how we be imagining shit and the what ifs we could pull those off what would the reaction really be if we just did it and niggas just did it with their chests out like fuck it whatever the outcome is going to be it's going to be but I'm a nose dive head first without a parachute and fuck it however way I land that's what it's going to be at that point I don't want to say that it was just me this is before me you know George Clinton was on that but as far as hip hop is concerned you know what I'm saying I pulled from cold crushing and furious five because when you look at them they was dressing up on some shit that was wild too they had them fucking feathers on and the fucking shoulder pads looking crazy but see they was pulling on that shit though real shit and that album fuck that's how Melly Mellon the niggas the niggas are standing up a group of old pictures of your uncle real shit because everybody handed one uncle who had bullshit but it was clean at that moment real shit look at your uncle Fred he ain't doing that but I'm saying like you did that bud I don't remember what video it was but you was dressed like one of the niggas Chris Tucker was fighting that was his clothing line he had a clothing line bullshit bullshit warrior bullshit warrior but I just was trying to you know I was just trying to maximize it all no I ain't son of a damn karate club I was like niggas you I was like go and they were like I'm about to say that so why they see it was clothing I'm telling you boy he had that guy I'm gonna keep it a buck we had the fly regular shit for the street I did Averrex leather spinoff that was bullshit shit I did sweatsuits I did denim suits like shit that niggas could wear regular like I'm gonna have to cut some shit we stopped doing that a while ago you ain't never lie you ain't never lie fuck off me you bomb ass niggas that's gonna be our clothing line DC bomb we gotta talk about how you slid on the track with Mariah Carey and literally slid on the track aw man thank you brother she is incredible first and foremost congrats to Mariah she got a whole lot of incredible shit going on I think she just put out an album on October 2nd that shit is moving and shaking streaming crazy she just put out a book that shit is the number one top selling book in the world right now and her season coming up mother fucker right that Christmas nobody can fuck with her period I'm buying a gift for you oh that's the fact she got the crown for that forever though nobody can fuck with her and in my mind the only two songs you really know she came up with a happy birthday song for real that shit will never die that Christmas joint so it's like big up to Mariah first and foremost and shit but that song bro I got the beat from Rick Rock my brother big up to Rick Rock out there and the mother fucker baby yeah you know what I'm saying salute to my brother Rick Rock me and spliffstar was on a tall bus one time driving across country see this ain't good I told you you mean that nigga spliff with me the whole journey spliff ride and shot done with me oh nigga oh nigga shit kicked me a couple times my neck getting heavy yeah now there was a period that I wasn't fucking with the plane I just wasn't in a mood to get on the plane I've been getting tired of that whole plane shit sometimes you know you take your shoes off and all of that yeah monkey shit yeah so you know I just I think the story that broke the camel's back for me one time this plane took a dip that felt like that shit dropped like 10,000 feet though I think it was definitely finished and that was the last flight for about 3-4 years built me some tall buses from the frame brand new everything beautiful and that shit exactly how I wanted the motherfucker and we would live on them shits and drive from New York to LA with two of the most incredible tall bus drivers in the planet only time these motherfuckers would stop was the fuel of motherfuckers had to use the bathroom but overall it was a relaxing drive he was able to rest you know what I'm saying a lot of the time niggas is grinding so much you know until you in a situation where you ain't got no choice but to sit your ass down you working too exhausted you know what I'm saying so we on the bus and you know while we riding a lot of the time we playing the video games we watching wild movies getting ideas we listening to wild beach niggas sending us left from right yeah we definitely had a stew on the bus we got the butt on the bus we got the lick on the bus but everything is just cozy niggas is riding out and the beat came on and I just started singing this shit with spliff we just started bugging out like on some joke shit and when the melody was done for the hook we knew this shit was a smash you know what I'm saying figuring out who to do it now I was just like this definitely can't be no record but we don't get one of the crammed in like crammed queens of this shit to do we can't play with that like we got to make sure we get the right queen for this and Mariah at that time was just the most incredible choice and she was already my friend and she was she's already like super easy to do shit with you just got to make sure you accommodate the boss lady the way she needs the queen when she pull up you got to have your shit to go you know Zan and you know rightfully so she earned the right to pass is to you know to get that without negotiation or complaining so I sent her the joint and she heard it man she was all the way on board and that shit was so beautiful she got that shit done super quick turned it around and it's ill because it was the first time that I ever learned about vocal rest like there was times I needed to talk to her about her approving the levels to the song and we was mixing the shit and you know we sending it back to just get all of the approval processes all done so we can send it to master and get it master and turn it into the label request to and all of that for about two weeks we couldn't get her to talk she was like you can only text me you can't talk to me and at the time I didn't understand that I kind of felt like I was getting shit it on you know what I'm saying with the fucking me queen you don't want to talk to me you know what I'm saying I don't understand this shit but you know sometimes especially when your voice is is you gotta shut the fucking mouth and let it heal itself but her vocal rest and we ended up having the same vocal doctor um and he's incredible Dr. Kessler big shout to Dr. Kessler but overall she was a vocal rest at this point in time and was a weird experience for me because I could only speak to her via text and she really really really did not speak for like two weeks I tried wrapping my head around that like even when you in a crib with your family or with your kids or with your loved ones or whatever no conversation y'all in the same crib and I gotta write some shit down so I could tell you what I want you to do or I gotta text you some shit to tell you what I need you to do go get me some something to drink text that was the first time I'm seeing this with her and it was a valuable lesson because I ended up needing that same process years years and years later and um I started to frequently lose my voice two years ago and Dr. Kessler used to tell me I needed to go on vocal rest too but I couldn't do that shit and fuck Buster Rom's gonna keep his mouth motherfucking shut you can't god damn you ain't doing this thing you gotta go back to the break dance break dance what? cause that shit seems like being an artist even with me and I know I be doing the stand up shows and I have to go to the studio and I be that is hurting me I'm talking about literally hurting me so people don't understand how I have to sometimes get off the road knowing that I want to go to the studio but I literally have to go to sleep every day booking on Thursday because I have all weekend I get on the track it's you see what I'm saying and that just put me in the mind nigga you have to continue don't say nothing you gotta understand your voice at its prime when you want it to do what you want to do it's the best so you go to the studio and you just sound the best you have to fuck off for two weeks ain't no telling who the fuck you sound like your voice heals so much you don't sound like you no more like I would say welcome back welcome back white men have a holly jolly Christmas cold white men boy nah that shit nah I appreciate it but yeah Mariah man that's my friend I'm proud of her and congrats to her with all the shit she got going on right now cause she's doing an amazing job and again man it's exciting to be talking about all this shit because shit man I don't know when this interview gonna air bro but October 30th Friday it's 18 days away from right now I don't know when the fucking days is gonna be away speaking in the future be like cause then she coming out Friday so what's the date on Friday Friday what's the date today is the 12th yeah so in future today is the 16th Friday is the 16th yeah that's when the promo rush started yeah real shit that's perfect timing um so if today is the motherfucking 15th the 16th today is the 16th then y'all motherfuckers got exactly two weeks in two days before this album hit the fucking street and shift the climate significantly extinction level of ventura to God I am not coming to discuss anything outside of how much I am going to boss y'all motherfucking head wide open real hip hop make these niggas rap again make these niggas rap again they can't rap for shit make these niggas rap again you know I ain't gonna lie it's so beautiful to be able to put out an album in this time especially dealing with speaking directly to the times I take great pleasure in speaking directly to the times especially when it's been a part of this storyline for the last 24 years from the beginning of my solo career not my group career so 29 years professionally since the first leader's album in 91 but 24 years since the first solo album in 96 so to go from the coming to when disaster strikes to extinction level of vent and then 22 years later come with my first sequel album I never did a part 2 of none of my albums this is my first part 2 and this is my first album at retail in 11 years so this is a big moment for me you know what I'm saying fucking dropping in 2 weeks in 2 days real shit thank you for coming and sitting with us and let's be apart now thank you king I'm honored to be a part of y'all because I ain't gonna front I don't watch the few interviews with y'all your motherfuckers be having me in a stool smiling so to be here and the thing that I think is dope with what y'all do y'all will mind motherfuckers how important it is to still laugh my nigga you know what I mean all this wild fucking shit this wild cowboy shit going on out here white people acting a little crazy a little too crazy you know the police department acting really fucking crazy and you know black people out here trying to figure it out but they still doing a little bit of crazy shit they shouldn't be doing too but for the most part to be able to see that there is a struggle that's being fought every day on some very real focused agenda shit amongst the common man that's just out here trying to find a way because they done took all types of civil liberties away from niggas literally telling niggas you get in trouble if you breathe freely I never lived I never thought that I would live to see the day that a nigga would turn breathing freely into a mandate that really ain't even passed legislatively as a law and make it like a crime I'm not saying be conscious and not to be careful self-preservation is obviously the first survival instinct like a motherfucker you better be careful like a motherfucker you better deal with self-preservation but you also need to remember every man has to live and die on his own iniquity which means that with every choice comes an invoice what part of living is living if a motherfucker ain't out here living with proper understanding understanding is the best part it's the absence of confusion niggas is just going along with shit and complying willingly without asking any questions we ain't trying to understand some real shit like okay I'm just going to put this mask on just because niggas told me to I want some real information on this because I really want to live I know scientifically there is some infractions with putting this mask on recycling the carbon monoxide that you exhale is it carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide carbon dioxide carbon monoxide we ain't supposed to inhale or recycle what you breathe out we ain't supposed to do that that's just not what you're supposed to do you don't eat your own shit drink your own piss inhale what your body gives gets out of its system so I think doing that and then your children doing that some sort of side effect there won't be some damage done in that but if you really just supposed to be protecting yourself from this crazy shit let us do this shit with some real substantial information that can be backed up by some truth that can't be disputed or challenged because niggas really do want to live and motherfuckers really want to find a solution on how to get past this shit but to just be indefinitely telling motherfuckers all type of inconsistent shit and you know the regular man that just want to go and earn you can't even go do that because you done took the fucking you done shut all businesses down man we can't even pass the fucking kibosiae they don't get their own kibosiae niggas don't open though we just can't pass it say 6 feet away with the kibosiae that's a really good thing you gotta go throw the bomb but overall without getting too off the deep and with the deep shit I just again I love the balance that y'all find the motherfuckers feel good energy because with all this crazy shit going on a motherfucker do gotta remember you need to sometimes take a break from that shit let the second string niggas going to fight and you need to recharge niggas go learn to laugh and live a little bit and get to some feel good energy so that you can get back to the fight with some fuel again you know what I'm saying so I salute y'all for that coming from the OG in South that means something man like them type of accolades from people of your status because you know we started doing it out of love you know I mean for each other and just knowing that we had something to get to the world but to get recognition from somebody who has been in the game for as long as you have and have the knowledge that you have and seen as many things coming go as you have that mean the world man they say hip hop like you said you've been sitting right there watching it being in that moment like even when you were young that even my generation don't even know that about me you know what I'm saying so just to hit these stories like I gotta go look at all these niggas up I ain't even know you had a song with Techni I'ma call you I'ma call you nigga I'ma be like I apologize you went crazy on this nigga man you feel me so just to have that gap just be close on some like just like I say bro like we been doing this wait till you hear the mister go and bust the rams shit oh yeah yeah yeah that's some of the crazy shit I'ma make him up too, twister as hell yeah he got a whole catalog of him just literally yo swish let's get this verses together and stop fucking playing that sound like it's already on an album it's my brother swish that's my fucking swish is like my closest brothers in this music industry shit professionally and personally that's a brother that I could call when I'm really having a headache with a personal issue and I could get some guidance from any younger than me he's just a super smart very very intelligent and very resourceful brother and he's a giver and that's another thing that's important for niggas to hear instead of talking all of this shit about what another nigga ain't got and I'ma shit you wanna throw up in a nigga face it's too easy for me to stunt on niggas too from jewelry to car shit to all of that niggas know my rep when it comes to all of that but I just think in these times we just need to make a little more of a conscious effort I'm not saying don't have fun I'ma still wear my shit and shine too but what I'm saying is let's kinda stop including in the narrative that we could be there to keep each other up salute to my brother Scarface because he need us a lot right now right now I love Scarface I wanna thank Bun B for getting me on the phone with Scarface when I got the kite about what the situation was recently and we've been on the phone speaking pretty much every day since then and I'ma do everything in my power to be an incredible and a very powerful resource because Scarface is one of the brothers back in 91 when I went on a P.E. tour the leaders of the new school and niggas used to come out there with this green leather suit on in the middle of the ghetto boys performance and there was like 11 of us on stage leaders, son of Berserk and the Hellraiser's tribe public enemy, kid in place Old Town 357 fucking iced tea niggas like this tour was so legendary and P.E. had landed and brought all of us out to come out there with this green leather suit with the cane in the top hat Mr. Scarface and niggas when that came on the whole fucking arena go crazy lose their shit and it was just the spotlight so you couldn't even see the face because the shadow or the brim from the hat was dark one made his face dark but he just had that walk came out on niggas on some Godfather gangster shit and would sledgehammer the venue in the middle of the the ghetto boys set because they would come and do that group shit and will he do some of his solo shit Bushwick Billard do some of his solo shit got rest in peace Bushwick and motherfucking Scarface would sledgehammer that shit and these were shits that I was blessed to be a part of so to have that kind of history with the bro and we still been able to have that brotherhood all these years later damn near 30 years man it's like we can't sit there and watch and not be able to be crutches and keep each other up so you know I'm just saying that to say every generation every demo you know even the generations after us beat them resources for each other you know what I'm saying because at the end of the day no matter how proud niggas want to act like they are motherfuckers need niggas need each other sometimes you know what I'm saying my favorite youtube clips you in the studio with Timberland and he was like niggas ain't making no you know basically oh yeah and I started fucking with the keyboard and pressed that shit yeah that motherfucker Timberland just heard me press that he knew what the fuck he was doing though he knew he had all of them fucking trinks and treats up in the damn keyboard and he knew I was doing once I started fucking with it he knew I was gonna stumble on one of them shit that was gonna motherfucker me up right and it did we got to it and that motherfucker made the joint I actually wrote verses for that I wrote verses for it we didn't finish the song I think I laid one verse or something but we never went back to it yeah that's a lost file now but overall again I thank y'all for having me you know again I'm a plug it extinction level event too we are did you know that this podcast was voted the number one podcast amongst black people with no cable right no the people that shit is incredible congratulations that shit is they're coming up in the world fuck you man fuck you man fucking legend nigga fuck that if y'all fuck with me all the little niggas 13 to 12 hey hey hey this is where I get my shit from praise that abby this is how you sound at the vocal rest well folks there you have it bust the rhymes here live on the 85 south show goodnight we'll see you guys next Friday we have the vocal rest it is already we're gonna sound all over two weeks thank y'all man we gotta take a picture just like the first iconic moment on the 85 we had a lot of motherfucker look at mama gay lookin y'all got boogie rhymes now real talk he's smirk just to be able to like you understand no you probably don't get it but we grew up watching you and to be sitting here I used to ride in the high school it's like it is a it show you the dreams come true because if somebody would have told any of us when we first started doing this that one day man you're gonna be able to sit down and chop it up with the nigga that made this the nigga who was running like this in front of an elephant fuck this run fuck the elephant on me it's just like man it's the most amazing shit ever because as a young man watching you growing up to know that you know like all that shit he laying out right there like them bad magazines and all it's like you know what I mean to be able to sit here and be amongst you and have you give us love is like my nigga this is crazy thank you so much thank you king thank you so much god willing he continues well shit ain't no god willing right all of our footsteps what? October 30th you better motherfuckin believe that on my baby birthday so I'm going to buy some gifts and buy no shit that's what's up that's what's up what? it's a legend shit right here gangbusters this one's gonna go crazy we can't do nothing tonight because of my kids fuck them kids they should be sleep anyway fuck them kids I ain't let them get in my way fuck them kids that's the fact I brought them kids with a bag full of snacks fuck them kids fuck them kids fuck them kids fuck them kids fuck them kids fuck them kids fuck them kids with a bag full of snacks I can't move it here like hey huh? a kid did that yeah which one? oh this one I ain't even see that one hey boy, hey good boy how old is it? look at my brain bring it to me check out the middle that shit is hilarious they ain't put nothing in the middle that's funny as fuck they see the rich homie coin right we made our ass deal look like booty hoes he even put Marvin Gaye in that haa hilarious we don't even look like Art Kenny I want a piss on you drip drip drip haa that's that key in Ignition Art Kenny they do look like kills or that motherfucker they ain't got Carlos looking like he working all those on what's up they ain't got a two in it right in in the ear they ain't got our ears look like booty hoes booty hoes that's how loud I am you I ain't never hear that apple like this I know you look like you said give me a piece give me a bite this sound like the beginning of the movie trying to commit the rivalry and shit ain't going right I can tell you fucked up with two he just blacken it out he blacken it out nah you got that nigga lost showing some chew me and Marvin Gaye had a show I ain't even play that part it's my turn to sing I'm doing the ad libs welcome to the new world I am lucky for a new girl if you are heard then I am him let's go for a swim not in the pool but in your room won't you make me drool when I eat your coup de coup and after and after I get fixed and I'm going to pull out my big ass dick and you going to Gucci I'll come for you Gucci real good you can give it a Gucci what's up sir Gucci real good hell no what's up nigga how you live come on man you know what we on trying to make this house a home work oh yeah hold on bitch hold on girl give me some of that pussy baby give me some of that pussy girl give me some of that pussy baby give me some of that pussy girl give me some of that pussy baby give me some of that pussy girl give me some of that pussy baby give me some of that pussy girl When you just came outside. I seen that you were dancing. I wanted some of that pussy So I took my chance by asking me some of that pussy, baby Give me some of that pussy girl If you want to be my friend then give me some again. I'm tired of asking I'm just gonna ask you when give me some of that pussy, baby Give me some of that pussy girl. The last time that I had it it was automatic You told me to go touch it. So I had to reach out and grab them give me that pussy, baby Give me some of that pussy girl Give me some of that pussy, baby Give me some of that pussy girl When I take you out dancing and I'll just take my chance and I won't hold your hand Because I'm not your boyfriend. Give me some of that pussy, baby Give me some of that pussy girl Give me some of that pussy, baby Give me some of that pussy girl I'm living amazing. How are you bro? Welcome to the trap man Guess we're gonna get you right here cat gonna get you set up. Yeah cat you getting them good Bust a bus Shit everything Give me some of that pussy girl Last time that you gave me some I didn't want to touch it But now you trying to give it to me cuz it's in my budget me some of that pussy, baby Oh You just we live in time