 Tlo what's poppin? We are on twitch. We are not live particularly like comment subscribe turn on your post notification bells Man, let's continue to grow the family from Chicago to the UK This is been parsed Pearson's Pearson Pearson The pursuit that hunts me Retired police intercepted man. Don't forget. We are partner with the blueprint mastermind the link to this is down in the description This is the latest episode of the roundtable discussions, you know Don't forget if you're looking for any of my old stuff that made the channel is what it is today Just you know on Facebook take a look at it. All of it will be back next month. So And I'll forget we are on patreon. This is a list of everything that's on patreon. This is England as well and One more starting soon as well and we do got the discord Don't forget about the discord That's down in the link below too. Let's get into this About 2012 we worked out of Tololane police station at Toppin. Here we go. Just in case So I see you put a little warning me too in Bradford He worked out of Tololane police station at Toppin in Bradford Great place to work. It's well. It's just as soon as you come out with the doors or drove your police car There were gates you dropped on it. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. You Couldn't get more than 50 meters without either it's in a ticket dropping on a crime dropping on a criminal or Pursuing a car it was just rife everywhere you went it were rife. They used to drive past Station trying to mock us and go to dinner doing things And at that time the essence has been a traffic cop or brilliant They were it's like at the time you were giving money at that time you're giving vehicles So we're all driving on in Vectra's VXR. So there were 2.8 twin-turbo Vectra's Dwarf rocket machines on wheels. So over quick cars And the team that worked with team to Bradford were fantastic and it had all these lads that were massively like pursuit specialists You some team you might have three lads on it and that and some that are good at RTCs and some I got all this team that we had were Brilliant at pursuing cars. You you you away with the best of the best at the time And I remember a job coming out and I paid no attention to this job at all when it first came out and it were Facts of there were someone going out doing Carjackings and doing robberies and it one of those things where Does it fall in my remit? No, it's a career cause on the CID We're not there to deal with that. We're there to deal with the the pursuits the RTCs so on and so forth it got to a point when the Suspect was known to be driving in a Subaru Shout out to the first responders. I forgot to mention y'all man Y'all keep it pushing every time man. Love y'all man. Appreciate the likes y'all even in the Premiers and if you haven't checked out the vlog I did Yesterday with my baby mama. It's up there somewhere The suspect was known to be driving in a Subaru and Then go in the traffic cops and I remember on radio There were traffic called Warren and it's seen the Subaru up by hospital in Bradford and The Subaru which is literally soon as you saw it in captives and it's Subaru made off And there were no way you could go near it or get near it because the the way it was driven were just Too dangerous. There were things that you probably looking 80 90 mile an hour through the middle of traffic when kids leaving school Wrong side of road where you just won't be able to see it And you went off-road and did everything you could to try and get away from these Bobbies This lad who was being pursued at the time was And I'm extra professional that's like level Boxer I think about 2021 people stocky were built and he wasn't someone to be mess with Lila if that makes sense He would he will go to this and he wanted to See how would he want basically that's that's what we're about and anyone that drives a Subaru thinks you can drive fast Just in a straight line But you've got to realize that there's a certain point on that car says it's all about me now It's not about the driver and it's all about what I am gonna do and if I'm Don't like it if I'm not gonna be happy on this road. I'm gonna tell you and This car made off from two beatbobbies About three hours before and it were in the area when you were in the area this ladder the crimes I've been doing have been pulling women out the cars and Literally attacking them taking the cars robbing them of the bags. You were violent beyond belief This slag was what we will say were massively dangerous Or I'm patrolling Bradford and it were about three morning and Ben is a great teller of stories Watching I Thought I'm gonna stay up for a little bit longer Just to see what's out about and I knew the lads at the time a dollar just gone in I think it'd been a busy day I'm sure that we had a potential fatal before I'm and had swept up from that and be dealing with that and then I went back to Nick So I think I were only one out and about and I decided to go back to her But go down Manning Blaine turn right palm stress and turn right Westgate and go back to Nick that way nothing on radio silence Warm night at the time And it was just that feeling in the air that Sometimes when you're going to something or you're dealing with something sometimes is tangible feeling Yeah, I know it sounds stupid So when you go to a football match or a concert and you can feel the buzz outside the stadium before you go in You know something's gonna be going on everyone's on this sort of level you could feel it in there And we're driving up to the junction of Hamstrasse and Westgate And I just pulled up in car and just as I come to a stop in traffic car. I could just The sound of the Subaru that's coming towards the junction And it just edged from edge of a building it just came you saw its nose Coming out and then as soon as it got into my view the driver had a visor down See you couldn't see his face, but I could see from bottom half his face Asian like about 20 years old It's all looking at car Was it 30 30 drivers 30 Sometimes because you're a bit tired, I could see it on my plate But it won't register in my head and then I could see him look down And he as soon as you look down his eyes got me and focused on me my eyes focused on him and switch went instantly And I thought fucking hell it's him. It's it's that car. It's that stolen car and it's him It was like a Standoff a Mexican standoff who's gonna draw a gun first. I look in his car. He could see what I mean if I think if you thought Could outrun this lad what's gonna be going on and I started revving Can I get revs up a little bit for cause I know it's gonna go on he's gonna go I actually thought he was gonna just go straight on through the junction because he'd have got a better run up Then and he'd been off but he didn't he anchored left and he just floored it He's went but more and he were off and he turned left down Westgate Instantly my heart sank because I knew we're on for a pursuit. This is gonna be a fast pursuit is this this isn't gonna be something That's gonna be two less in the right in the decam this is gonna be a balls out so is this Swung car around and you whenever a pursuit takes place You have an instant ball of adrenaline this adrenaline goes straight up But then it comes back down and plateaus because you treat you so highly trained to do one thing Um, it's all you focus on you don't get tunnel vision. You don't get red mist. It's like you've just Plateau in your car. It all so it switches on all at once Um In its second gear lights go on straight onto comms I can't remember what x-ray Romeo 5 to urgent vehicle fail and stop. It's the vehicle used in the robbery Everyone knew about it comms knew about it f something new about it And I think by that time everyone's bailing out at nick and they're all obviously wanting to get on this pursuit gets that stopped By time I set off down hamstrasse The car itself the power of the car the back end sank down The engine revs so hard and I shot down hamstrasse with him and I locked on There were no way we're getting away. We're just the basics here, bro We were well, you're an impressive, but it was just a basic, you know I mean nothing pumped up about it and I got locked on as we swung left on the manning them lane I overshot a little bit, but I overshot to keep it wide So when I come out of the junction, I'm in the line of traffic coming the opposite way So they can see my lights because what you want to do if you're pursuing a car at that time You either revelers about There might be some members of the public there might be some people just out going to career hours is that still up in that time So anyone that's coming the other way any taxes you want them to see that you're coming towards them With lights flashing you don't want to be blending in behind the car Um You have no thought for anybody else If I knew at that point now What we're gonna do I'd have probably just not done it. I did just I'm making this quick video because it has been one month since joining the cash flow Has it now I'd probably just not done it. I did just probably bought it You can't see in future. You can't see what's what's going to be there And I remember just going through gears at VXI and just watching revs go up gear third gear And I thought right do a go fourth get a looked on fourth gear And then I looked at my speedo and I'm going past My straws and center of bad for what used to be my straws and my over 120 mile an hour This is 30 mile an hour limit roads are designed to be driven on at that speed. There's so many It's different on more way It's different on big roads. There's so many little undulations. Your car's getting thrown left and right in road You're losing your front wheel. It comes up a little bit. It's skipping Your traction control is coming on certain little times because the amount of power You're giving your car and at that time you're having still do your comms You know we're now left left left the manning lane One two zero miles an hour speed increase and I've still got him in my sights And you're having to give your plan over you're having to tell Your boss or the control room. What's your plan? I'm I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that I'm going to get a helicopter. I'm going to get in boxing Um, you can't say I'm just going to drive until it crashes. It just doesn't work like that um Some shooting through Bradford I can see The I wonder if you mentally know that though like man, we gonna have to drive until it broke until bro Hit something and stop himself You gotta know that sometimes like this dude not stopping. He ultra aggressive. He probably off You know, I'm saying testosterone or something Truffle lights hit queen's road And the gutt red no cows there the gutt red But this is a this is a route that taxi drivers use all time. This is route that trucks Use all time ambulances. It's it's it's a busy room As I look down I'm increasing 120 and he's pulling away from me in the Subaru um at that point That's Subaru has I know what's happening. It's gonna end in tears. It's gonna end One way is this and it's gonna end with him dying on me dying It then swaps his car and all the next to the posing carriage where Heading into water come around the corner at that point if you look at the road If you know the road, you can't have a visual line You're driving blind and you're gonna drive it into the airbags by the wrong side. You're just gonna hit something goes through Truffle lights I'd estimate 130 miles an hour plus and all he does when he goes through I can see gravel Get thrown up from under car I just shout instantly it's gonna kill someone a bar bar bar and in my head. I'm done I've pulled I've pulled the switch. He's he's done. It's all the way the the pursuit is gone Um, but because I've driven him to that that level Even if I pull a bar until he's gone out of my sight and he's safe. I'm still fully responsible for what goes on when When I see the gravel of the car I can see It lean gently to one side And then it comes up and it just goes gently to the other side and all this is in slow motion for me I don't know how it feels for a driver. It's in slow motion for me I know at that time that that driver is already lost control of the car What I'm seeing is the back end of the car and even inside must be panicking left right left right And basically when he's gone to the opposing side of the carriageway with so much weight On the the back end of the car the other side of the car and he's going through Basically the car's got so long one side. It's come upon its suspension. It's gone to the other side and it's fish tailing now And it's that point. I just think He's dead. He's dead straight away. He hasn't even hit anything but he's gone in tears The car Car for a wicks Spinners in road Just goes all the way around And keeps going And it's just an almighty smash of dust. You just don't see anything But a dust ball But when you're looking at you can you can hear even through the glass of Your car with the windows shut at over an hour. You can hear all the metal bending and cracking Um I incidentally shout crash crash crash, but i'm 200 meters away if not longer And i'm having to break hard on my car for it to come to a stop because the amount of force i'm generating in the car as I Come up to this What kind of car did he say he was driving? Something real fast twin turbo like right? Seeing The back of his car is Folded up So if you're sat in the car You're being simply looking at the the bonnet. He's folded up It's backwards into a wall up and through a bush shelter So it's tangled up into this mess and it's completely nearly ripped apart. It's just demolished And I thought he's dead He's he's dead and as i'm looking to the side of the wall I can see a body laid on grass And I thought he's been he's been ejected from this vehicle Soon as the cars come to a full rest I can see him climbing out with the driver's seat of the car And he climbs over this Audio or torso that's laid on the grass. He literally climbs over him And then he starts to run And i'm just thinking well someone's being ejected from the car and the driver's out or the passenger's out My job is then is to detain that person I know the person on the grass can't go anywhere because he's laying there still I stopped the car. I opened the door And i'm giving comms on my radio and i'm chasing instead of my foot We're running through the the woods of Lister Park And because it's dark and I can see the the lights over in the car and I can see silhouette And I can hear him panting as he's breathing but by that time my adrenaline is now flushing it's I'm I'm I'm basically starting to go deaf because the amount of adrenaline pumping through my body And I can see him but I'm running with all this kit on like I said, I've got I've got combat boots And I've got big heavy combat pants on I've got me vest on my tack vest. I've got all my equipment I've got everything else all on me And um, he just he just leaves me just he just goes I just kept there's nowhere I can catch him Uh, I'm completely and utterly out of breath and I'm ruined um When when I turn back around I can just see a load of heads uddling around this torso on floor Um And I've got so I get back as quickly as I can And when I do is the slab they don't floor And it's his only young lad so about 19 um And from knees down He's literally one legs Decentigrated and other legs completely not to be gloved all the skin is removed from the leg It's all pulled down towards the ankle. You can just see bone and like fillet steak Meat if that makes sense, but it's like a purpley meat because it's still active with blood Blood spilling everywhere and the first person that were there to give first aid when my partner now Which ironically she didn't know me that were driving and I didn't know where I can remember this lad screaming She's saying help me help me We each know that initially thought well one of suspects from car um I uh I spoke to the supervisors that come now when They were trying to do the first aid on this lad and first thing you have to do is call it potential fatal He's he's got no legs. He's he's gonna be dying As soon as call it his potential fatal the the duties of the police Are to remove the driver of the the pursuing car, which is me So I don't deal with anything then I'm literally trekkers a suspect A good suspect if that makes sense, but I'm literally trekkers the suspect I'm running a car and move from the scene and go back and then investigation takes place Turns out that this lad is a 19-year-old Rebbler who has been out for a few drinks with his friend and he's just decided to sit on the wall With his legs dangling over the edge of the wall Just at the same time he must sit down and he must be there five to ten seconds And at the same time the Subaru comes into view backwards Come straight past him takes his legs off and ends up in the bush on the outside of him This lad's done nothing wrong He's he's just a completely innocent pipe if it wasn't for me pursuing that car wasn't for me going And wanting to catch that fender and I've got a way up how much how much I want to catch somebody Yeah Imagine going to go watch your favorite team stepping out the bar real quick. Let me get a fresh air Sitting on the dingle in your legs and looking down and them are gone. That's crazy This is how the stuff that just make you want to stay inside. Honestly, like I don't even want to do nothing You never know how much we need to protect the members of the public What would you feel if it were your family member that had added your car still and had been Beat up mugged and you knew I would behind them in the car. What would you want me to do? How would you want me to do that? Would you want me to carry on with the pursuit? What happens if you were this young lad's mother or father or brother or sister or cousin? Do you want me to abort the pursuit? Where's that fine line? Now, I think I aborted at right time But if I could go back I'd probably aborted before he got to trough lights Would it have stopped the crash? I don't know. Would his speed have been it? Would it have been it? I don't know You've got to understand the amount of pressure that you're under at the time as a driver To deal with stuff the right way. Do you comms right way? You're analyzing the road, the road layout, the speed of your vehicle What the dangers are, whether it's members of the public, whether it's any vehicles You've got to formulate a plan in your head of where this pursuit is going And what's going to be going on with this pursuit And is it dangerous? Well all pursuits are going to be dangerous There's no way about it. You can't pursue a car and not be dangerous But this lad that's lying on the floor didn't deserve to be injured. I was injured I had then, I can't tell you how long but I think it was months I had months in my head of worrying, constant worrying This lad was taken straight from the scene to emergency surgery And I had every day I was coming straight into office Waiting for a phone call, he's dead Then the Bay would be investigating me for dangerous driving, death by dangerous Am I going to prison? This is what's going to be on my career ends Month after month I kind of knew that they had to go through that when they're pursuing somebody And they pursue too much And that's why they be having a layoff like that That's why in Chicago they don't, you can't pursue a motorcycle I don't know if the rule has changed but You're not allowed to pursue a motorcycle on the e-way You got to just let them go I don't think you're allowed to pursue them at all But I know that's one of the reasons but I know it was that deep Like, hey, you go to jail for doing your job I guess when you get overzealous and you want to be a try hard That's how you keep people in check like that Like, okay, I get it And it just, it burned It just got too much weight on my shoulders at the time And I remember going to see an officer who was dealing with the collision at time And I remember her in tears, all crying And I said I need to see this lad I need to see him, I need to beg for forgiveness He contacted the lads mum And the lad agreed to see me, so went to his house And I was, I don't think I've ever been as nervous I don't think I've ever been as scared and as resentful of something in my life Went in through the door And I think he'd been having a cigarette at the back And he came in and he was walking but I can't remember if he had a prosthetic leg on I can't remember, but I just remember he was a mess Physically a mess But his attitude was just brilliant His confidence was brilliant His forgiveness, he just, he said it wasn't my fault, he shook my hand He says he's got nothing to worry about, he doesn't blame the police He's zest for life Well, ten times what my zest for life was It wasn't stopping him, he wasn't held back by anything And you could see by his attitude and the way he was dealing with it He was just pushing forward all the time And he won't want to let something like this set him back The lad that we dealt with for the crime got sentenced to a long time in prison And he went guilty and got sentenced for a long time And in my head, I've always trep The lad who was hurt is part of my police career And what I've altered, and what I've altered in someone's life And I carry that all the time It hurts me to know that this lad Has been physically physically hurt by me coming on duty that night If I had a run in sick, it'd be normal, it'd be all sorted out Or even if you would have just clocked out when you were supposed to clock out And go your regular route I'm just saying, because from what I heard And it were only when I wrote my book I put a chapter in my book about this incident On this lad Now, this lad is local to where we patrol And he got back to his family that we'd wrote the book And the book was obviously doing the rounds, so to speak And doing our care It's then I received a message on Twitter from his mum Outlining the fact that he's doing really well with his life He's studied at university for his degree He's now a father of a thinker, five-year-old child He's still got the same zest for life and his life's moving on brilliantly His family who, again, don't hold any resentment towards the police They've forgiven me for everything that's happened And they said I shouldn't carry this weight on my shoulders, but You still do, you can't alternate who you are and what you do But there's not one minute of the day goes by where I don't think about him And that's quite, I won't say that's satisfying on my part But it's, again, it's some of that hauncher So if you think about how a police brain works You see something and you put it in a little black box Some are really bad So it goes in your little black box and your elevator takes it down to your basement And it puts it on your shelf where it shouldn't go And then you think it's locked up again And then your keys get put in another lock and then you don't bother it And eventually your black box is full up on this shelf So you've got a black box, you've got a bunch of black boxes and a bag And it gets so full that your shelf starts to overload and starts to So being able to talk to about it releases it out of that box sometimes Then when I got the message from the parent I was really It was sort of like it would dealt with, you know, I was happy it would dealt with So it came out of that box I don't want to cause anyone any more misery or pain But yeah, I think about you all the time I think about him all the time I think about the crash all the time I can still hear the metal bending I can still hear the glass popping You're a good person, you go out to do a good job You go out to be a member of the society where people can say If you're struggling, if you're in danger, go to the police Not if you're in danger, don't go to police because you're going to get hurt I wish a lot of the officers had the same outlook on that job as you Because that intimidation and especially in Chicago, oh, they go out And they go out and I feel like this is just my opinion They go out like, hey, they better fear me Like that's better to be feared and loved when you're a police officer That's how I feel like in Chicago, they want you to fear I'm glad he's doing all right And I'm glad he's forgiving me but Some of them, not all They're the sort of like jobs that you've got to But where they're the jobs you've got to make that decision make And that's also in my personal opinion, my personal run-ins In a split second And where you're on a split second That's going to ruin someone's life forever So, would I go back and do it differently? I don't know, I probably would I'd probably have barks in the society Well, yeah