 On the screen on my phone, I can hear the song without you. Are you guys ready for another podcast? Let's go. It's the Nintendo Prime Podcast, episode 14. Is everything working? I pray everything's working. I can't tell because my screen is covered up, everyone. I've been having a little technical difficulty to start the stream. That's all right. How you guys do it tonight? Welcome to the Nintendo Prime Podcast, episode 14, everybody. All right, so tonight we have a special guest, Mr. Paul Gale from the Paul Gale Network. How's it going, man? Everyone good? I'm good. Thanks for having me, Nate. All right, you guys let me know if the volume's good, if I gotta turn myself up or down or whatever. So we have a special podcast for you guys. This is the first podcast that's really happened since the E3 time. We did have a post E3 podcast briefly. We haven't had one since. As you guys could tell, my co-host is not here. Mr. Eric Muller, who usually is sitting over here, we usually have a completely different look on our podcast, isn't here unfortunately. He was all good at the beginning of the week and then yesterday, late last night, he's like, so I can't do the podcast this week. I got family stuff going on and I go, well, that sucks. The show must go on. So, it's just gonna be me and Paul tonight. Eric should be back next week. I'd like to say it. I don't know. I think what happened is we got out of the habit of doing the podcast over like a month and a half and so he stopped scheduling his time for it, even though he said he could make it. But you know what, that's all right. We'll give him an extra week to get back. The show must go on and we have a great slew of topics for you guys today because whether or not we haven't done a podcast since Switch OLED was announced. So, that's like, what? That's kind of a big deal at least this year. So, we gotta talk about that and obviously there's all those impressions out there at this point. We got Skyward Sword HD. I wanna give some thoughts, impressions on that game as well. We're gonna also kinda revisit the old, the Switch Pro stuff that people don't like talking about that usually gets people to instantly dislike and if Nintendo even needs a more powerful platform sooner rather than later, this could end up be a next gen. It doesn't even have to be a upgraded model. We'll get into that conversation and then we're gonna take a look ahead at our most anticipated games and why there are most anticipated games. Cause there is quite a slate of games just on Switch, let alone considering all platforms out there. I know the Halo Infinite beta just wrapped up recently and a lot of people are really loving that one, which is shocking considering that most people have not like three, four, threes attempts at Halo. So, at least I'd say a chunk of gamers on the internet have not liked their games. Guess I shouldn't say everyone. All right, so let's get into this. Here's some people saying the stream is lagging. I don't see any lag on my end. I have it up on two different screens. So I'm just checking, I'm waiting for it to see if it hiccups their legs. For me, it's fine. Looks good here. Yeah, I think everything's going fine. I think we're all good. Some people say that it's good. Some people say it was lagging for me. Yeah, I have no idea. So if it's good for some people and okay, whatever, people say it is fine now. Whatever, I don't know nothing I could do about it to be honest, it's lagging, it's lagging. My computer's not lagging, so that would be the only thing I could fix on my end. All right. So first off, before we get into anything, I don't think a lot of people even know who you are, Paul. You wanna explain like, you're more of an industry veteran than I am, and I've been doing this for 20 years. So you wanna explain to people like a little bit about your background so they kinda know, hey, why should we maybe care just a little bit about what this guy has to say? Sure, I'm 38, so I'm a lifelong Nintendo fan. Been gaming for a long time, but I got my first start in the industry if you wanna call it an early start working just like a lot of people do at electronics boutique, formerly or what would become EB games or GameStop, software, et cetera, at the mall. And then I had an opportunity from Konami to go to E3 and cover the event from them and talk about what the show was like from a new gamer's perspective. So my first E3, which was in 2000, I was actually only 16 years old, so still technically too young to go, but under Konami's supervision I was allowed to, not to provide feedback for them and for some websites, still fairly early internet days in 2000. And then I got in by my own means for the second show in 2001. I'm kinda giving you a, how did I get into the bigger part of the industry though? And just kinda being in the right place at the right time, not being afraid to talk to journalists that I respected. At E3 2001, second show, at that year I was a part of electronics boutique, that was how I got in. And I just happened to be at Nintendo's booth, Luigi's Mansion was being demoed, and then Mark McDonald and Dan Xu from Electronic Gaming Monthly, they came up and the Nintendo representative said to me, could you step aside? We need the journalists to come in for the game of the show. So I said, all right, I looked who it was, and they were like, oh man, my fans. I mean, that was their fan of EGM, you know? And they played, sorry for taking your spot, no problem. I waited, talked to them afterwards, fast forward, kept in contact, just being a part of their forums, eventually they gave me a job working for gamers.com. I can't remember me from the show, E3. Yeah, you were the guy Luigi's Mansion, cool. And then from there, that was 2002. I started working for gamers.com and it worked for gamers and eventually oneup.com until 2012. Hitmob.com came along the way, I worked for them from 2009 to 2011. In between all of this, I started PaulGaleNetwork.com which was kind of a means of trying to gather and introduce different people from different walks of the industry because at that time I already met a good amount of people from different places in the video game world and folks that I was surprised might not have met each other or had ideas. So the original idea for my website was introduce artists to people looking for artists or musicians looking for people who wanted to hire music and it kind of just became a variety site where I talk about games and do some of my other stuff which is martial arts related and whatnot and I write for Shag Mag which is an adult online magazine that focus on ladies and whatnot but I've got a video game column in there and... Nothing wrong with that. I've been a part of video gaming forever but writing and stuff for 20 years into 21 E3s. I've been doing video game themed pumpkin carving since 1998 which is pretty cool. Nintendo Power interviewed me on the video game character in Street Fighter 4 not to talk too much in the beginning of the show but Capcom made me a 3D polygonal character and actually in Street Fighter 4 over on the European cruise ship stage as an NPC they scanned my face and put me in the game because they're like, oh you're like the real life for you you know, martial arts video game guy so yeah, love video games, love Nintendo and I've been around for a while. Thank you for having me on the show too. I've always enjoyed being around supporting people that I like, that I like personally and I think that's the thing that helped me at E3s and it helped get me early exposure was, you know I see someone that looks cool I give them an opportunity to talk to they're kind to me, you find a good relationship and you make things work, you know watching Unate and all of your podcasts and how you treat guests and talk to fans and stuff like that, professional, fun all rolled into one so I'm happy to be on your show and I appreciate it and you know you're Nintendo fans, good gamers getting along with each other, that's awesome stuff Yeah, I don't know about the professional part but essential, well, professional in reporting I know most people here are Nintendo fans probably first and foremost, myself included but I have to say, you know I have covered everything I've broken some different stories back in one up with Street Fighter 4 that was my baby on my own in my Polygal Network days of website coverage I broke PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale so some people here might be like is that Polygal Network guy that PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale guy? Yes, that was me and the reason why I brought that up is it all goes back to what we're gonna talk about later tonight, Nintendo Switch Pro and how controversial it is to sometimes have right information or wrong information how people see that I've been on both ends of that so I know what that's like, but No, it's all good I've definitely heard of you before I know we've had some light conversations over the last year or so nothing major So I'm just glad that you are a fan of my content and all that and thank you to all of our viewers out there whether you're listening to the audio version which I know you audio people are getting mad at me I know there's like two missing episodes I'll get it taken care of, all right? I'm a busy guy over here you know, parent of three full-time job full-time college plus this YouTube stuff you know, I just I always say just be thankful you get any content from me because I don't even know how I find time to even do this stuff let alone play games I mean, let's just gotta squeeze that in there sometimes too somehow though I will say this, despite being really busy I always find time to play games and I always find time to watch my favorite shows so I guess you know it's one of those things that you just make time for the things you want to do and one thing I should be making more time for is hitting the gym you know all about that Mr. Personal Trainer over there but but that's all right I'm in the midst of an intermittent fast at the moment but I am gonna have a little bit of booze tonight guys for anyone that's all any super chats tonight I'll just do random shots I don't know what I want to do whatever I feel like doing at the time and Loki Ravensword kicked us off with a $5 super chat earlier celebrating us hitting 40 likes we're actually at 50 likes now I see 80 people watching why are we not at 80 likes what's wrong with you? you not enjoying the show? I know we haven't talked about games yet let me get this down actually while I do this shot quick here I'm doing a little shot of UV Cherry let's talk about the Switch OLED let's kick off that conversation here because we have not talked about it really much on this channel besides like the announcement video of it and then I did like one live stream where I answered a few questions but there's been a lot of previews and stuff that's come out even recently the European previews have come out and pretty much everyone has like the same thoughts and it seems to be if you play Switch in handheld this is a significant upgrade if you don't it's not because it's the same internal components same resolution, same clock speed, same everything so if you have someone to play as docked on TV there's not really much to be excited about but if you play in handheld say you bought a Switch Lite and you're like oh man you know I want a better handheld experience well people say it's like night and day there's even some journalists I think they're being a bit exaggerating although I understand because going from LCD to OLED is a massive quality jump some of them seem like it's almost like you're playing these games in a new in a higher resolution some are saying it's like it's not really that it's the colors are pop a lot more it's a lot crisper the blacks are actually black text is easier to read on OLED there's a lot of good things with OLED and Nintendo even recently addressed the only concern that people have is burn-in which that's always a concern with OLED it's also a concern that's been addressed over the last 10 years that OLED's been growing in popularity so for the most part I don't think you have to worry about it your Switch is going to die in handheld before you would ever get to the point of burning in an image unless for some reason every time you turn it on you just leave it on the home menu for three hours till it dies plug it in, charge it and redo that all I mean if you're trying to make it burn-in basically you can make it burn-in at max brightness but that's something to really worry about obviously they've all praised the kickstand as they should it's using a surface style kickstand which is in my opinion one of the best kickstands in the industry very solid why they didn't do this from the first place I don't know why they thought that little pop-out thing was going to work I think my Switch doesn't even have its kickstand on it anymore I gotta find it for the comparison video because I don't even know what the hell happened to it kids you know so there's that and one thing I am curious about of course is when you take apart the Switch OLED because when I get it first thing I'm going to do well turn it on make sure it works then I'm going to open it up because I want to see while the internals are the same chipset did they change the cooling solution did they reorganize things inside of it because I'm sure they did based on the fact they moved the SD card reader and they moved how the cooling works a little bit even though you can use the Switch OLED in any Switch dock technically how it gets its air is a little bit different it's not in the same air vent spots it more like sucks it in from the bottom and splits it out at the top and I'm curious if that's going to cause any overheating issues in the old docks if you use it in there even though they said it's compatible and you can use obviously your your current switches in the new dock which basically the only reason to get the new dock besides it coming with your Switch OLED if you want to buy it on your own is the LAN port and the LAN port is a big deal in so much that it doesn't run at USB 2.0 speeds as long as it runs at standard LAN 1 gig speeds that's like a bare minimum standard on even like the cheapest of motherboards you can buy out there 1 gig networking with a LAN port pretty basic if it is that and it's not running through a USB 2.0 controller port you are factually going to have a better internet connection on your Switch right now then you will with any dongle you have ever attached so you're like oh I don't need it I already have a dongle your dongle is limited very limited because the current Switch dock only has USB 2.0 which is well below what most people's cable internet lines are running so you are not getting the full capabilities of your internet even wired on your Switch so this does have the potential if there's a high enough adaption rate to maybe affect better online play I'm especially looking forward to things like Splatoon 3 and how many people might own Switch OLED then and then see better connections then for that game less disconnects and all that anyways what I want to do right now while I do this shot quick is Paul what are your thoughts on the Switch OLED are you even excited about it do you want to get one I because I run a YouTube channel I kind of have to but you know is it something you're even interested in or are you just kind of like you know what I have a Switch I'm good if it wasn't for being a hardcore Nintendo gamer that just has to buy everything and I was just being honest with myself as a normal gamer happy going about various parts of the industry having a Nintendo Switch would probably be enough I did a reaction video to it in fact when it first dropped on you know Nintendo's YouTube page and I was stoked I was blown away I was watching it excited excited and I said to myself out loud and of course it's gonna be more powerful too right we're gonna have to find out more later and then of course the information came out that it's not and I got this feeling of ooh am I not in need of this I'm still gonna buy it because I have to get every new Nintendo toy I mean I'm wearing a custom Nintendo Switch t-shirt you know I've got a Samus statue here that's the kind of gamer I am but and the Zelda shirt there but it's unfortunately not the must-have that I think a lot of us were hoping it would be it's not the Nintendo Switch plus the pro um I play about fifty fifty on TV and in handheld mode if this had a little bit of an upgrade in terms of resolution or some processing power even like new 3DS levels of improvement for the TV purposes I would be all aboard it and telling people like you should probably get it it's gonna enhance your experience it's gonna enhance mine a hundred percent of the time but without that it's only gonna enhance the clarity visually only while playing in portable which is half my time uh... not a necessary get most people it won't for anyone who's getting into the Nintendo Switch market I think this is the system again it'll be interesting to see how many people upgrade or maybe trade in you know I think you share a similar feeling right not a must-have but still gonna get it so obviously I was always going to get it just because of this YouTube channel uh... and to be honest let's see if I can grab my Switch with my foot right here I have it I don't know this was the E3 setup thing by my dock so the thing is on my Switch right now I don't know how well it shows up um... I need new Joy-Cons uh... the pads got ripped off by my kids on the sticks there's no drift or anything and I've tried putting them back on and I don't know why it's so difficult to put them on it just is and I've tried like third-party replacement pads doesn't work now I could just buy new thumbsticks and install them it's not a big deal to me and that would be a much cheaper solution than buying new Joy-Con but uh... I want a system that hasn't you know I want something that hasn't been touched by my kids that's the bottom line I want something that's just for me uh... that every time I touch it I don't gotta worry about the fingerprints all over it I don't have to worry about oh man why is one of my Joy-Con missing why is my kickstand gone where did my memory card go hey that game I was playing why is it not in my Switch um... and you could say maybe that's a failure you're on my parenting side I don't know about that if you have children you just know they find a way to get into all your stuff there's no such thing as this is mommy and daddy's stuff and this is your stuff it just doesn't matter if they want to get it they will find a way um... but I don't think they're gonna care about the Switch all that my children I have a five-year-old who's almost six turn six at the end of this month eight-year-old and a ten-year-old I don't think any of them are gonna care about Switch OLED I don't think Switch OLED is the kind of platform that I need to worry about as a parent that my kids are gonna play because I don't think they're gonna care about having a brighter screen a more vibrant they're gonna care about any of that stuff they're kids they just want to play my son has a Switch Lite my daughter has a normal Switch my youngest son doesn't have anything maybe he'll end up getting this to play I have no idea but it's just kind of a I want to get a new Switch that my kids haven't touched and something that I'm going to appreciate more uh... because where I play a majority of my gaming time if I'm not streaming or recording uh... I don't sit in my basement on my you know gaming TV and play games that much because unless I'm streaming I got kids to watch I got other things going on so I'm usually playing on my Switch all my kids are playing outside riding their bikes I'll sit out there you know on the porch and and play or if what happens more often than not is I'll put a show on and I'll lay in bed and I'll casually be playing a game on my Switch while I'm laying in bed watching a show on TV like that's how I primarily play my Switch and then yeah I do appreciate Doctor TV mode absolutely uh... especially Skyward Sword I've yet to use button controls on Skyward Sword because I love the motion control so much back in the day I'm like got this mindset that I refuse to play with button controls then I keep telling myself every night I'm in bed just put Skyward Sword in and try it with the button controls just do it and you love motion it's fine just do it and I haven't done it yet uh... so to me getting the Switch OLED is just more so it's the best version of Switch factually just as an all-around platform but it's also that I want a Switch that's for me and I feel like this gives me uh... an extra Switch so all three of my kids can have a Switch and then I'll have my own and I think if that's the case they'll leave my Switch alone uh... even though I have more games than them so God knows they still won't leave it alone but I mean I share my games with them guys but some of them are digital and my account isn't on all of their Switches there's the hole trying to keep them off YouTube things and then I don't really want to set up the internet and then there's a whole bunch of parenting snuff food with all that and yeah parental controls are nice but Nintendo's parental controls are fine a little bit limited if I'm going to be honest uh... I feel like that on all the platforms though by the way whether it's Sony PlayStation or like pretty much everything that's not like an Android or Apple device has very limited parenting controls I don't know why uh... you'll be on the Nintendo Switch online app and be like oh my kids played too long let me kick them off and you hit the button and they're still not kicked off it just shuts off on their end and then they just turn it back on in the key plan so like it doesn't it doesn't do anything like what's the point so anyways um but yeah Switch OLED is a platform that you know if it didn't exist I wouldn't be like upset I don't it's not like I feel like I need a Switch OLED um really the primary reason I'm getting it is when I do online Splatoon 3 I want the LAN port uh... and if I want that and I need new joy cons you start adding up the Nintendo selling the extra dock on its own for you know a hundred dollars joy cons are sixty seventy bucks you know I'm already like two hundred dollars deep with taxes just to get the stuff I want so why not just get the new switch to go along with it for the extra hundred fifty bucks uh... and bare minimum I could always end up just trading this in and getting some money back anyways to put towards games to be fair to people I think a lot of people this holiday are looking at it as a potential upgrade for a trade in proposition the trading value for this platform isn't going to go down this holiday uh... it's still going to be end up selling out I think all versions of switch are going to sell out over November December uh... and that's going to lead to high demand for used platforms uh... so you're still should be able to get some decent trade value pay attention by the way to game stop folks uh... they tend to have a lot of really cool trading deals around the time new platforms are coming out where you can get like an extra hundred dollars at times uh... for trading in a platform because they know that they could take this clean it up turn it around sell it for two hundred seventy five dollars and they only in a paid you two hundred and it's like I mean that's not that bad of a deal uh... when you look at that second-hand market on like facebook is so that you'll see hey that's what people are selling these for like two hundred bucks all you can get that and get your bonus points and your gold points and uh... enjoy some benefits there I always say I understand people don't want to shop a game so I'm not like trying to promote them it's more so I'm a smart consumer I take advantage of every trade in promotion and point value thing as an example every digital purchase I make on my switch I make it through game stop as you don't get discounts unless it's already on sale on here that you're gonna spend full price if you buy the digital code from them you get your gold points and you get your gold coins on here you get both you get the double debt uh... so then you end up getting discount codes and all that yes folks I might be someone that looks like I own a bunch of shit but I do this because I save money everywhere I can switch all that I am excited in so much that I'm very curious to see if I end up caring I don't know how much I'm gonna end up caring I think I'm gonna enjoy oh my god it looks beautiful and I don't have an OLED TV in my house right now so I don't even know what to expect uh... technically I think my iPhone 12 has an OLED screen but because I have it on blue light saving mode all the time I don't have the true colors anyways it's always dulled out to me uh... I guess I could turn that off and see what a what an OLED panel can do uh... all I know is uh... it's not what I wanted it's what we're getting and I don't know that nintendo's done yet they had like six different 3ds models so this would be the third different well I guess you can say fourth different if you count the version 2 switch I mean they did change the box color so I guess we gotta count it as four different versions of switch I don't think they're dumb but uh... you know like we're mega nintendo fans right so switch OLED's like okay yeah we'll get it just for being fans or I run this youtube channel plus I haven't you know a kid that doesn't have a switch so it just kinda works out but I always go that's us but to the average consumer do we really think they should care about this thing it costs fifty dollars more uh... I'm not so sure that basically having a better kickstand a lamp or that should have been their day one and you know a bigger brighter more color accurate screen like that's a fifty dollar upgrade it feels weird it feels more like this is like just a new switch why don't they just replace this at three hundred say we're done with this and we're just making the OLED model and that's going to be our new standard model which is what I think nintendo is going to be doing in a year I think they're going to discontinue this and that's going to be the new model and they're going to price cut it I hope expecting a ton of a price cut anything when it keeps selling out I know a lot of people think this should be price cut already it's like the number one unit seller in the world they ain't price cutting shit right now their profit margins are have got to be good because four-and-a-half years in nintendo switch still selling for that three hundred msrp I do think that since the market isn't fully reached yet in terms of how many nintendo switches are out there you know we know that a if you want to call it a semi-handheld system we know that a handheld system can go up to a hundred fifty five million thanks to ds so if you look at nintendo switches eighty nine million or so there's still room for another sixty million people out there to potentially get it if you're looking at it from a console perspective you look at ps2 you know that a console dedicated to go up to a hundred fifty seven million ps ps2 era how much can nintendo switch go the OLED will sell just fine is it too is it for everyone know but you know if this was coming out at the tail end of nintendo switches life and the system was already at a hundred forty it might not serve that much of a purpose because everyone's got it too much penetration in the market but there's so much room to grow that i think like you said the system will sell well and eventually components will change and it'll be dropped to three hundred and maybe a light dropped to one sixty one seventy and maybe a plus eventually yeah like when when do you think they're going to do price drops because they're not going to do it now the things selling out at a lot of places now so not going to happen this year next year if you just look at the lineup of games that alone should keep the things selling a gangbusters so i might i keep looking at the future like when does the price get make sense for us consumers hey next year's five years in we should be price no as it's selling out companies don't price cut things that are selling out so when do you think of a price that might come for any of these platforms it's such a strong system that nintendo doesn't need to a smart nintendo is one that is almost struggling to come back into first place and that's when they're making the best moves i think and right now i think they need to keep that momentum high stay high in people's minds don't lose it while they're at the top you know that's why they're releasing the switch all that at all is that they're trying to add to the momentum yes i think you know we for as well as it did to date nintendo's best-selling dedicated home console sold a hundred one million units in this lifetime but if you look at it like eighty six million were in those first four years until november two thousand ten and then from november ten until we you came out in november two thousand twelve that's when it made its last sixteen million really hot success and then it fell kind of steep nintendo switch is at like eighty nine million now in less time now we have other systems on the market ps five is hot xbox series x is hot i don't think nintendo wants to lose market talk it'd be the newest toy on the market but without necessarily releasing the big next-gen console yes so this is just something to i think he in discussion that come this holiday now you want to know what you do they got a new toy too so to answer that first question one of you do a price drop maybe when ps five and xbox series s and x are more available chips shortages aren't an issue anymore nintendo switch is starting to lose a little bit of steam in november twenty twenty two maybe like you know uh... five-and-a-half years and they finally drop the price and at that point though do they have three models on the market with three different prices that's kind of weird i think two sounds more here my ideal my ideal would be nintendo switch oled drops the three hundred nintendo switch plus comes out at four hundred and that's a beefy might as well be called the next-gen platform and you've got the light and you have three models of two hundred three hundred and four hundred that exist very different reasons very different price points but at that point does a plus just become nintendo switch too depending on how much power it has later it comes out in the life i think the more likely is to become a proper sequel if it comes out next year that warranted just being called a plus a pro and you that's hard to say oh yeah definitely is it now nintendo though that's that's my hope is like keep the momentum strong well and in chintura for a car was actually talked about this uh... there's some of the investors meetings where he's mentioned like he's been at nintendo you know a long time couple decades uh... and he is always been on the financial side of things and he says you know one issue nintendo is always had is that you know we we find success and then we just fall off a cliff and we are like scrambling to try to find that success again and it always takes us a while before we can find it again uh... and it's not just even like we and then we'll see what happened with you then switch or ds and then you see okay followed up by three ds which technically feels weird saying this all the things sold seventy five plus million that's the worst selling handheld of all time they've never had one sell under you know under like eighty four million or something that's like they've always their handhelds have always been close to a hundred million or better uh... until the three ds happened uh... and then obviously home console wise they've never had anything sell like under twenty million and then obviously we use flopped really hard but the thing is with their with their home consoles is it like that's a more recent generations all the way back the the nests sold like gangbusters and then the SNES sold like twenty million less the n64 sold twenty million less and it just kept going down and down and down and they never could get that nes you know mass market appeal again until they change things up into the week so he's been here through all this any uh... i don't even know what notification that is but thank you for whatever that is uh... it's a new sponsor thank you so much uh... so yeah we we we've been through all of that and he he just said hey you know one of my goals as president is to prevent the we we we plateau and then fall off the cliff like i don't want that to happen and this is where i've always thrown out i've thrown out the strategies all the way back to two thousand seventeen where well how do other tech companies avoid that microsoft has not avoided that at all they've they've been up and down like crazy with their systems i'm just trying to make grip grab a foothold and now they've completely changed their focus yeah this is the series systems are doing well but that doesn't really matter to them what matters to them is that game pass subscriptions and all that are are on the rise uh... because they view the subscription services and streaming as the future and they're going all in on that and kudos to them because hey we haven't seen a major platform holder do that yet sony's not doing it nintendo's not doing a congratulations microsoft's going all in uh... talk the sony has their toes in the water for it will see what what they do in the future and obviously seen sony have their own way of maintaining success every single sony platform but playstation three has sold over a hundred million units every single time and it's going to happen to give a playstation five it's well on its way to doing that here probably in the first four five years in the market it's going to be doing switch numbers and and and hitting a hundred million uh... so i was like well how do they do that well one uh... sony has a very weird strategy at the beginning of every generation uh... for some reason we just accepted as consumers and gamers where they uh... show you a bunch of games that you're not going to get for like three or four years uh... and that makes people by their systems now knowing that we are going to get her like horizon forbidden west as well they shorted off last year's was to be a big twenty twenty one game now it's coming out next year unless it gets delayed again comes out in twenty twenty three like they they always promise a bunch of games and then you're going to get those games but not for a while they always start off by promising but why they get away with that promise and then having a couple years there where they kinda don't have much where nintendo usually slams yet the beginning and then dies off uh... is that sony ends all their generations very strong right they ended you know playstation three with some of the best playstation three games in that final year leading literally up until like weeks before uh... playstation four came out that they had some of their biggest games come on the last of us came out in a final year that they had major games come out that they were then able to remaster and repackage and resell like everybody does uh... but even playstation four had some it's best game kosher shima and all that coming out in the final year of playstation four leading the playstation five and that's how they've always maintain momentum is okay yeah when you buy that new platform you might it might be a couple years before you finally get that big system-seller game but you know you're gonna get them and you know you're gonna get them because look what you just got on the prior platform and that's how they maintain their momentum is they found that ending strong is more important than starting strong and for nintendo over the years it's always been starting strong is important ending strong isn't except every time they don't end strong they don't recover uh... they they literally last two years you know you said they only sold sixteen million we's in the last two years uh... we they also have a no games come out that matter they had they had some games they finally ported over from japan that fans had to make a damn petition to even get over and then they got scottward sort and scottward sort came after we you was announced so was like what are you doing like this is just this is just baffling to me so like they just let the we die and then thought oh we're gonna pick it right back up with we you and new super mario brothers you and it's like no dude you shouldn't let we die like that that was not and they've done this before the game to be like game to die out they let um... god i remember the end of the snes era that things are just really thin pickings from nintendo and i'm like why why are they like always we have you at the beginning and be hyped and after a couple years we just don't care anymore we pack it up already from the it's almost like nintendo because they were split between two platforms uh... just couldn't maintain game volume uh... to keep it going to the end and i think one thing we're noticing with switch and this is great news for the longevity of the platform or even if uh... more powerful more powerful nintendo harbors coming eventually i don't know what it's going to be but it's coming eventually well what helps that that be exciting is right now all their development is focused on a single platform right they have no they don't have a separate handle anymore 3ds is out of commission they're done making that uh... they don't have a separate home console this is it it's switch and because of that we're seeing some of potentially the best games on the platform come on in year five and once the last time we could say that about a nintendo platform oh year five is going to be all when you get the big brand new exclusive zelda game coming out oh and by the way it actually matters because that same year we have a big brand new splatoon game coming up we have a big brand new uh... you know mario plus rabid's game coming up we have the first ever open world pokemon game coming up all of that in year five okay yeah we've had zelda games come out late we just talked about skyward sword we haven't had it combined with this level of support out of nintendo and their partners uh... it definitely feels like maybe an advantage i think sony's had this whole time where they were kinda lucky that veda and psp sort of petered out for them uh... even though i know psp ended up selling really really well guys i'm well aware of how well it's all i know veda was really big in japan i'm not knocking the platforms i don't think sony ever fully put their full force of development into those platforms and i think that's largely why they ended up going away psp i know people report a look at the eighty million i i know psp sold a lot but go ahead and ask how many people that uh... still rock psp is why they rock their psp you'll quickly find out there's a whole underbelly market this is the real reason psp was doing so well not that necessarily game sales go look at the top selling games of all time on psp and then look at how many psp sold and you tell me it makes any sense legally it doesn't make any sense the ratio in that system is off it's pretty bad but it's still sold well and there's a very good reason that it's so something that the steam deck by the way is going to have a great field day in that kind of market that's another interesting one and steam deck i think might throw out not a big wrench but a little wrench into potentially nintendo's plans of well when do you do a price drop not enough steam decks are going to be available i think to penetrate the market and sell you know ten million in the first few months because they're just not going to have that many made if you try to pre-order it now not going to get one until twenty twenty two so competing neck and neck with nintendo isn't going to be there but if nintendo starts seeing a switch you know they could drop the price drop easily at any time they want to still make a good profit i definitely think like what you said is true going into the fifth year nintendo this is looking like the most healthy console of theirs in years combining hardware and software divisions into one and held in portal portable and you know home console into one you know also if you think about it hd development even when hd was considered you know seven twenty p right xbox three sixty playstation three all third-party companies including microsoft and sony started hd development for those systems like in two thousand four five or the systems coming out in five and six and then from two thousand five and six onwards until their next platforms were developing hd games for years nintendo despite being old school having a mastery of video game development they struggled with we you because talented as they were they were now developing games for hd platform for the first time as long as anyone has been making games but that extra work the extra detail that has to go into hd development we you didn't have a lot of hits one after another when the console came out how long did it take to get pickman three eight months later you know nintendo now understand hd development they're able to put in more time and resources and then to switch games are coming out a lot more steadily than they did in the we were and you've got ports that fill in the gaps but they have a really nice attractive amount of games and a healthy twenty twenty two with a lot of hits and they could dig from any franchise i feel like now throw in punch out that's going to be the best selling punch out on nintendo switch pick kid icarus it's going to be the best selling pick game on nintendo switch now's the time to reinvigorate any old franchise i think and four as long as it's good everything i know you've talked about on the channel before but animal crossing smash brothers 3d zelda 3d mario each entry of nintendo's it's doing the best now yeah i mean i want to like even with the Kirby team they've talked about how like the next Kirby game they're making is it's supposed to be the best Kirby game of all time and i don't know whether it will be but i kind of hope it's ambitious because like now's the time like Kirby's all Kirby's been relevant forever they release one every year but now it's like okay now let's put some effort in it like pokemon legends are let's see what these teams can do on a platform that people are just buying games like crazy i mean luigi's match in three is basically a 10 million seller okay let's get another luigi's matching game out hickman three deluxe is now by the way a port is now the best selling pick me game of all time all right let's get pickman four out the door like let's get the like you know all star fox zero oh yeah that was a nice little peter out for the end of we you how about let's get a new star fox game right now like yes like now's the time things are selling like i you know we have metroid dread coming up and we haven't seen a side scrolling metroid game top two million in sales basically only ever happened one time in the history of metroid once okay and we've only ever had sales top to four million one time and that was science one that was metroid prime so hey metroid dread might sell five million units and that's insane for metroid it has that potential that people on switch are just buying games like crazy they just want stuff to play and it doesn't matter how hard or how fast it comes they're gonna buy it like mario golf last i heard is like the fastest selling mario golf game to date and we're probably about to get that confirmed with nintendo's financials you know the same thing happened with mario tennis super mario party pokemon you know it's it's seen the pokemon sword and shield had the best sales in pokemon pretty much since generation one like that's insane and that's all happening on this platform and nintendo's continuing to give support and i know it's been a bit lean i know during this covid thing first party wise it's been a bit lean all right i i get it guys all right like even this month the big game's a third party game no more heroes three great game probably gonna be fantastic but again nintendo didn't make that so the it's been a bit lean i mean even when you look at oh mario golf yeah the nintendo definitely didn't make mario golf either that was made by camelot oh hyrule warriors age of calamity again nintendo didn't make that game um the only last game they really released that they worked on themselves was bowsers fury mode and super mario 3d probably nintendo themselves hasn't really released anything that they have personally worked on this year that's new yet metroid dread is one of those although then again it sounds like they hired a different company and then they worked with that company so it's another one of those it's not really full like what the hell are nintendo's teams doing well clearly spittoon three clearly breath of the wild too we know for sure those two games are made internally at nintendo we know metroid prime four is made internally at retro studios whenever the hell that game's coming so like the thing is nintendo has been kind of skating during the pandemic and it doesn't matter because all that's allowed them to do is give their dev teams all this extra time and that means 2022 and 2023 should have a lot of really big games which then leads you to go okay so then switch OLEDs coming out because they obviously were working on this before the pandemic okay that's coming but like what's the point well to keep switch relevant in the hardware marketplace so their most recent hardware release isn't two years ago and then obviously if they look at their momentum in the roadmap and they go look we're gonna have big games next next couple of years you know what do they do with the hardware then and i think we'll get into this in a moment because you mentioned hey at some point you just call it a new new switch or a new switch too and i mentioned in 2017 this idea that nintendo might do away with generations and just go which by the way generations are usually fan and media made anyways but they might do away with the concept of this is their next platform or like no this is the same platform this is the same switch family it's just our latest switch it's all backwards compatible and they slowly over time phase out the old hardware for the new hardware just like i think it's going to happen with switch OLED i think this switch if you own one of these current normal base switches just like the version one one was phased out for version two i think this model of switch is going to get phased out for switch OLED in the next year because there's no reason for nintendo to make two platforms that are basically exactly the same but one has a better screen like it doesn't make any sense get rid of one the only reason they're not is because what nintendo didn't plan when switch old i i i guarantee you guys switch all that was planned to be just a straight up replacement but then the pandemic happened and this sold out and they're going we can't just tell people we're replacing this when we can't get enough of these on store shelves as it is that doesn't make sense so instead we're going to give you both and one's going to be fifty dollars more and then a year from now when they price drop it and we're all like what the hell nintendo is going to go that's all right don't worry about it you already bought it early adapter you know we'll give you a free nest game or something have a good day the old 3ds program when they price drop that really quick that was not a plan price trap though to be clear nintendo wasn't planning up oh did you see the the q and a reggie did yesterday reggie's comment on the 3ds on the price he basically like it's my fault i i've over i overpriced i told him the price is too high you know despite that thing coming out for 250 bucks when they did the ambassador program you know they dropped it officially to you know 170 giving people 20 games nes snes split that was a pretty respectable thing to do i think which it was yeah they don't have to but it was kind of one of those like everyone knows why your price got you can't sell that everything and you don't really have many games on it so like but um it was it was a cool thing to do with the ambassador's program um okay so i get into our next topic here um skyward store at hd obviously 10 year anniversary um came came all back on the we we talked about briefly how it's just bad timing you know didn't sell very well obviously controversial motion controls um have you had a chance to play skyward story g since i came up yeah i picked it up i preordered it and you know it's great like so far my impressions of it are really solid i've been you know i have two kids myself four year old and six year old and i still have my we you hooked up with my old we save data on it but it's a night and day difference playing on you know a tv that is an hd tv that fully utilizes the 1080p visual 60 frames per second of skyward sword um you know some of that art style is a little bit lost because it was supposed to be it was built for being blurry yeah yeah there's both to be more like you look at you know scan lines and old arcade cabinets they were meant to be there on purpose so that it filled in pixels and stuff like that so i think it's really good and you know the early sales that we got out of it out of japan at least are pretty solid uh you know 170 000 first week having you know your typical 70 percentage drop for second week not knowing digital but knowing europe's doing well like i don't want to say it's probably over the three and a half million that sold on we but i'm confident it's definitely going to lifetime surpass we's 3.5 but uh smart on nintendo for releasing it i like the motion controls like you you know said i'm also a fan of you know playing it with uh traditional i think it's a good move that they did both um i hope it does well because have you had any problems with the motion controls because i was watching um because beat him up instead of did a video on his impressions on the game and he he ended up really loving the button controls but he used to like the original motion controls and he thinks the motion controls are like 10 times worse in the switch version than in the original and i find it interesting because my opinion is like the polar opposite i'm not having like any problems i think it's approved yeah i i don't know if you have any issues with them no problems with me i think they're smooth and just as responsive as before if not better and i was hoping they'd be better because you know joy cons is more advanced tech than a we motion plus but no it's good for me well i think i haven't you know so so i have a theory on this because i was watching his video and he was he was doing it on live stream and he was doing these big sweeping motions and all that which by the way that's how nintendo adds advertised skyward sword from the very beginning do these big sweeping deliberate motions and that's not how i play i don't find that comfortable i don't know why i'd want to sit in the couch and potentially swing my arm and hit my kids it doesn't make any sense to me um i don't play video games for that if i want to work out i'll put in ring fit adventure i don't need to be swinging my arms like that and obviously against tyreen and zelda games are a game you usually pop in and play for at least an hour or two um you're not just going to play for five minutes so to me all of my motion even back to the original game was always just little wrist flicks no big deal and once you realize oh the cursor centered on whatever direction your thing is pointed well you can literally have the thing like this on the side pointed at the ground as long as you recognize that where where your point is the center of the screen i got no problem man it all works just fine um and i was wondering if i if the controls work that way and that's probably the intended way and probably the way most of the testers were using it but because it looks cool in commercials to be doing all these big sweeping motions that actually when you do that it throws off the gyro gyroscope and that's why people are having problems when they try to play it the way nintendo tells them to play even the tutorials go like this i'm like no just go like this go like that you don't have to swing your arm and i think that's throwing it up because if you think about it when you do the wrist flick right like okay you're doing like a little side shirt you're just going like this right it's super quick but when you got to do this exaggerated up and then down well you're moving the sword and the game might register you is moving it in a different direction before you bring it back down and i'm like i think nintendo is just advertising this game wrong and i think the tutorials advertising it wrong because i've never played the game that way and thus i've never had issues but everyone i watch even like my kids try to do these exaggerated sword motions and it doesn't work one to one and i'm like i don't know the problem look look look here it is here's like it's all working fine what's there you got oh right well dad you're not doing this and this i'm like well because it looks dumb when you do that and it's clearly not working so don't do that i will say on the you know i don't want to get into a spoiler territory so i won't say who's the last boss but the last boss on the wee version when i played i did that i was all pumped up i got into the middle of my room and i was swinging big and it worked to some extent but for that boss something about it i had to get up off the couch and like that was just fun yeah i got off the couch in the original too yeah and then there's like a thing you gotta do with your shield during it that i basically hadn't been doing the entire time i played the game you had a parry or whatever and i hadn't been doing that the entire game so like the final boss kicked my ass like four times before i'm like all right let me actually get good at parry and it's kind of like in in breath of the while you know oh yeah i could take out a guardian but i'd always cheese them and just use like the the ancient arrows and it's like yeah but you know from the very beginning you could just deflect with your shield and take them on i'm like i don't want to learn how to get good i want to take the easy so like and that boss forces you you know if you haven't used that move all game because yeah there's some enemies it's useful for but you don't really need it there's other ways to beat those enemies so it's kind of like all right kicked my butt i was off the couch i was i didn't do the exaggerated sword motions but i was sweating that's the closest in my life i have come to throwing my wemoat at the tv never happened i've never let go of it and hit the tv in my life but that was the closest and i used to get really into esports man i'd be going nuts but i was never sweating i was sweating playing demise especially when you're on your third attempt you just kicked your ass you almost beat him the second time and you're like come on but it's a fun game um i i will say this i'm really glad that skyward swords getting a second run i know there's a lot of debate over whether it's worth 60 bucks or not i i think that's all in the eye of the beholder um me who's played the original um i don't know i mean i bought it i'm also a big zelda guy like i'm gonna buy anything they could charge me 100 and i probably still would have bought it so i'm not a very good barometer on value for zelda games but i will say i think skyward sword is criminally underrated i think a lot of people didn't play because they didn't like the motion controls now you have a chance to do it without motion controls and yes it does take some getting used to a button controls um the hardest thing they used to is the camera having to hold the l button and then move the right stick um because the right stick also controls the sword it's a bit clunky um or you could just pretend the game doesn't have a free room camera and just center your thing by hitting zl like the game originally wasn't the first place i mean to be honest i grew up playing games that way so not that big of a deal for me to do that but i know modern modern games are all free room camera so it's there maybe maybe not the best i think it would have been better if they would have made the sword strikes where you hold l instead or gave you the option to flip that in the control options i think so because it does look a little funny running around and like links like holding the sword out here and you're like okay like that's just weird like have him sheath it and only pull it out when i hit the l button and then but they didn't do that it is what it is i i think the game's really good i think it's aged really well um obviously it's if you guys you're first zelda experience ever's breath of the wild this is a huge shock to the system because this is nothing like that game um yeah there's a stamina meter and there's some item upgrades but it's not open world at all it's like the most linear zelda game there's ever been you have to do it in order you have to go certain directions there's pretty much like one way to do everything this isn't breath of the wild where there's a billion ways it's one way do it the way the game wants you to sure eventually you can go and revisit places and gather supplies and do side quests but the end of the day it's not open world um and it's also um you know breath of the wild is built on the thrill of discovery um an exploration and that's kind of the opposite of this this game is linear and built heavily on story story story story i mean there's over five hours of cutscenes in this game guys five hours if there was ever one thing i wanted them to do it was voice act those cutscenes in this game that would have been so nice because this game has so many of them um i mean there's one cutscene that goes like 18 minutes long it's insane like they have so many cutscenes because this game is the beginning of the zelda storyline it's the beginning of everything uh and it just has really in-depth certain characters anyways have really in-depth development grooves if you guys haven't played this game you don't know anything about grooves you're gonna love grooves by the end man um you're gonna start you're gonna start calling hyrule of gruesland pretty sure so pretty soon so um like i think i think the game game is going over well even my youngest son who loves breath of the wild i think it's his favorite game um he you know he's getting into it a little bit um he doesn't like that the combat feels more complicated to him because it's not a button press um but i mean that that was always the caveat with this game is it's not that it's difficult it's that um it's different even the button controls it's different um it's not your normal zelda game and it takes him getting used to but if you're willing to get used to it there's a lot of um good stuff in this game and to me and the reason why i've been so adamant of not getting off motion controls while playing it again is i love motion controls in this particular game even though um they're not perfect because i wanted this to be the future of zelda i wanted zelda to be motion controls moving forward which i know most people don't agree with that opinion but i think motion controls take some skill and when i watch people failing with their motion controls well i don't have any problems i kind of have like that cocky voice in my head saying get good um just get good i mean something maybe something's wrong with your joycons but get good i like wait i don't know what to tell you like i don't have any of these problems get good uh but it does feel like it's not hard but it's also hey you know when you're fighting the bokoblin with the electric swords and they electrocute you and you kill yourself and it's like well get good i don't even have those like it's not even a problem for me i don't have any miss swings of my sword to have that happen um but i mean i always thought the same thing was true with zelda 2 because zelda 2 ranks really high for me the adventure of link um i don't actually find the combat in that game difficult you can pretty much cheese everything there's an easy way to do everything um i mean god dark link just go crouch in the damn corner and swing away he can't hit you so you're gonna eventually kill him like it's but what i liked about the combat in the game that made it feel difficult is that yeah you had to think about what you were doing you couldn't just button mash you had to decide what there were multiple ways to swing your sword from a stab to a swipe to a downward thrust to a jump attack like there's all these different ways to attack that just in priors all the games just swing your sword you swing and you have a spin attack and that was it and zelda one um and this you know and you can shoot lasers of course um in this game there's magic abilities and also like there's a certain skill level to the combat uh and that's what i felt like scour sword has even to this day there's some skill to that combat now not saying combat like in breath of the wild doesn't have skill clearly there is it's just a different type of skill um where one is about precise movements the other one is more i don't know i guess timing based i i think a lot of the um the breath of the wild skill like when you're facing off against a golden lionel or something mostly just timing if you can get the timing right you'll be fine uh where this is not just timing its direction and all that you know there's other things that play um also maybe making sure that you centered your controls so you don't swing the wrong way i mean some people don't do that i don't know i i i'm a big fan of scour sword hd um i'm glad it's here i'm glad my kids are getting to experience it i think it's aged well i think the art style was definitely meant for 480p um so people didn't even realize the og game was a painter style until now because it was blurry but that was the whole reason they did that style is because it looked good while blurry it doesn't look quite as good while being chris especially some of the backgrounds but the characters are great i mean the character models always look great and they just look even better now um i would i would i would do say i wish they would have went a little bit further with this game um like in wind waker they redid a lot of stuff in wind waker and i kind of wish they would have did that this time too um because it is a little weird like at the beginning of the game you know groose is doing this old pointing his finger thing and like you could just see like the triangles on his hand and it's kind of like okay like we could have updated these models a little bit like well yeah that's exactly what i was gonna say um i like you know of course i'm bringing up a company that's going through a lot right now but uh the spider of the dragon trilogy so that was handled the crash bandicoot trilogy the crash team racing that remake style of visuals tony hoxpro skater one and two you know what i mean like a repainting over the original polygon models with what can we do with today's tech if that type of effort was applied to skyward swords you know visual theme keeping the game the same you still walk around this corner you know we're not changing it up like final fantasy seven remake style that that's a whole different level repainting the game not just uprising it this game would have really shined on that because like you said the the polygon models are still from 2011 on a machine that came out in 2006 with tech that's like from 2004 so the architecture of it like you said with gruesome finger now they look really good they look nice but it looks clean and the but it's also like it doesn't okay that's not the way a hand and finger is quite shape but that was no one cared back then nowadays it's like okay but we have breath of the wild we have other games that clearly have better modeling in it like what had been that much to like there's not that many characters in this game i don't think it would have been that much to at least just redo the models a little bit you don't have to even change that much just redoing it so it looks more natural right um not so many i don't want to say jaggies because that's that also comes with anti aliasing and nintendo just doesn't do that for some reason and like anything they do i don't really know why they just haven't i don't think nintendo has any games that have anti aliasing someone's gonna correct me on that and find the one example where they do but i can't think of a game that nintendo uses anti aliasing on um and there's no reason they can't there's third party games that do it on switch um but like that wouldn't fix this this is literally a actual issue where the original models have very few triangles in them in comparison to what switch is capable of so why don't we like you know why why didn't they put in the effort for that and the only thing i could think of is just um they just wanted to rush this bad boy out the door in you know the effort that they did from ocarina of time and majora's mask to their 3ds counterparts yep that would have been that was very good effort i like the effort we went from links hands looking like this to okay links got fingers you know it's not just a higher resolution it's new polygon models over everything i mean imagine that they finally got together nintendo and xbox and they're like okay we're gonna bring you golden eye into today's era on both nintendo switch and xbox series oh don't everybody was oh everyone was still everyone was still like this though but hey peter okay no we'd want to have that articulation that's a sort that's a sort topic because uh you know we almost got it once back on we in 360 yeah i know they tried but like i i would like to see nintendo do that and that part of me like i don't want to deviate into you know wishful you know conspiracy theory and stuff like that but if i had a choice of give me ocarina of time at 3ds port or some kind of combination of the n64 and 3ds version in just hd and give it to me now or hold off on that bad boy until 2023 for the 25th anniversary and give us a full on proper remake where it's big it's bold it's repainted over that's that's what i would want i i think nintendo respects its past and sometimes it's how do you respect your past you respect your past by saying okay fine we'll give you something from the past but we don't want to taint it we don't want to touch it we want to preserve it and that's why we do stuff like super mario 3d collection the way it was presented but then sometimes you have them say oh no we're gonna go in and give you a remake like they want to keep the integrity and the vision of what they had before and not as often as they probably could or should keep that vision but take advantage of the modern tech i would like to see that the latter happen more often you know give me that that update yeah and like they i don't know i mean i understand comparing to the one micro hd is a bit unfair because nintendo's actual zelda team did that one um whereas like the company did this one is the one who did twilight princess hd um and twilight princess hd uh you know i i didn't really feel like at least to me they really did any model changes on that one either i mean but but they did do a lot of texture updates and replacing in that one uh which they didn't do in this one this is literally if you go you know the galadies aside go on an emulator and play an upright version of skyward sword from the we this is what it looks like like if they there's no texture swaps or changes or anything um so moving on to our our next topic here um this kind of brings things back around a little bit to switch olad sort of but more so the whole switch pro situation um which i know you know even you've you mentioned you know at least by the scene that you've heard some information at time that the opposite didn't happen wasn't true or at least hasn't happened yet at this point um and i i i go you know one history tells you that nintendo's going to release a more powerful platform at some point right like history just that's what they've done dsi you 3ds um you know even um you know like a game boy they have a game boy color um so like they've done these significantly upgraded platforms uh in the past in the same generation uh and even now you look at what switch olad is i mean it's kind of just a switch xl in a way um it's a bigger screen that's the selling point bigger brighter better screen okay that sounds like a switch xl uh it's just not being called that uh and it's very interesting to switch the nintendo switch olad it's not technically that's not the name of the system it's not called nintendo switch olad just called nintendo switch olad is just in parentheses at the bottom of the box the actual platform on the dock on the switch makes no reference to olad it's just a switch it's gonna see this logo guys that's what it's going to be on the back there's no reference on anything except on the box in in brackets that it is an olad platform um which obviously if you call the switch xl that becomes part of the branding so because like switched light you know as well doesn't have light on the back of the system i don't believe i have to grab my son's switch to make sure i'm pretty sure it doesn't say light on the back it just has a switch logo so i i think about that and i think about obviously that like takahashi machizuki at bloomberg that did a lot of the reporting or a lot of the um credible reporting on on switch stuff over the years on hardware because he was right on the tech behind the original switch he was right about everything with switch light version two switch and really right about everything in switch olad um except for the fact that he kept mentioning 4k dls s he kept bringing that up he was right about who's making the panels he was right about the seven inches the olad the new kickstand he was right about a whole bunch of the lamport all of that stuff he was right about but he wasn't right about the 4k dls s because he kept saying these were the same platform um and now we know that that's not true but i kept wondering if he's right about all this other stuff then why is he wrong about 4k dls s and is it that he's not wrong but he wasn't talking about the same platform and while he thought it was the same platform because he thought all this information's for yet to be released switch why wouldn't it be the same switch maybe his information was really on another platform that nintendo's working on because nintendo's always working on platforms um so it leads me to think okay so if there's this 4k dls s capable something at some point nintendo's future a switch even if it's not gonna end up being the the infamous switch pro which is just a fan made up name um say it ends up being the next gen switch let's say it comes out earliest what 2023 2024 i would say if it's the next gen because i don't think they're gonna replace like have a whole new generation next year that wouldn't make any sense um not with the big games they have coming out then again that's what sony would do so who the hell knows um but i kept thinking like i i honestly think that there will be a more powerful platform for switch coming and i don't think they're going to call it a next generation switch i also don't think they're going to call it like a switch 4k i mean maybe i i shouldn't say they're not going to call it switch 4k because who would have ever thought switch oled why would they even mention like so what the hell do i know they'll probably put 4k in a bracket somewhere or whatever on the damn on the damn box but um kind of like there's 8k on the playstation 5 box but i don't why you're not getting 8k games i'm placing i mean you're barely getting 4k games on playstation 5 let's not i don't okay maybe you can play 8k blue rays or something i have no idea um maybe you can stream 8k netflix and maybe that's the big thing i don't think 8k netflix is the thing yet but when it is a thing um i i kind of look at this as there is my personal desire for a more powerful switch i want a more powerful switch i want every single game like i want rest of the wild two next year to be at native 1080 on my screen at 60 fps and i don't think that's asking too much but i might be asking too much of the current hardware with that engine to do that without having to really sacrifice visual quality especially to hit 60 fps because it struggled to hit 30 fps and i understand that was built for we use this this would be built for the ground up four switch but it's still the same engine so i don't suddenly think they're going to be able to gain an extra 30 frames you know and and it'd be good i think they might be able to hit 1080p at 30 um but i want that 1080p 60 and i feel like we got 60 fps in skyward sort of hd first ever 3ds all the game to be 60 fps people are overlooking that it's a big improvement and it's a big deal link between worlds with 60 fps triforce heroes with 60 fps so like a lot of the more recent games link links awakening with 60 fps we're 60 fps except for breath of the wild so it makes me realize that nintendo seems to know that for zelda games 60 fps is better they know it and they're going to do it when they can do it and that's really the only reason why i want a more powerful switch is just to have nintendo games at 60 fps the third party games are going to do what they're going to do because they push visual quality so high i never expect any of them to ever be at 60 on switch and if they are kudos it's probably a multiplayer game i assume um but that's the only reason that i want a more powerful switch i i guess you know as the topic says do they need one though um and do they need it soon because we just went you've talked earlier they have such a killer lineup next year and the primary reason we buy these platforms are the games so if it keeps getting the big games do we need that new hardware as much as i might want it i mean i'm buying the games anyways and so are most nintendo fans i don't know too many people that want to play breath of the wild too that are holding off on buying a switch um you know like say what they say the game came out tomorrow oh are they really gonna just not buy a switch and play the game because they can't run at 60 fps i mean there might be some outliers that are like that um but i don't know like do they even need one i i think it's a fundamental question to ask because i feel like two years ago we could have easily said oh yeah they need one but then animal crossing came out the pandemic happened everything sold out and it's kind of like well the primary reason to release a more powerful platform is to boost sales but they don't need a sales boost so now what oh because playstation 5's out well i don't even know that a switch pro was going to get ps5 games anyways ported over so the primary reason i think is to upgrade the games that are already there or future games coming to it i don't know like i'm i'm in this mindset where i want new hardware but also i don't know if we need it i think it's more like a nice to have rather than a we need to have it soon but you'll see people even in the comments on this video a lot of people say man do the arbor's ancient we need something new we you know we we just need something that can run nintendo games alone at a solid 30 fps let alone 60 and i understand that sentiment but also the games are still just as great as they are right now so what are your thoughts i think nintendo is better positioned at this four and a half year point than they were with we you know back at its point equivalent in like uh you know september or august 2010 uh yeah august 2010 so i think that the outlook of nintendo switch games in the future they'll still have a higher attach ratio because you're like how come skyward sword when it came out and nintendo we had uh almost a hundred million how committed and sell well one of the things is yeah maybe the motion controls was a barrier but also what is a new game looking like compared to what else is out on the market it looks ancient in comparison to what's out there on the ps3 xbox 360 i think nintendo switch they would still sell very well in terms of oh the graphics the gameplay the excitement and breath of the wild too for instance so they don't need to have new hardware to show off new visuals because it's in a better position than we but i think nintendo the other hand knows we don't want what happened to we to happen to this game where you know come fall 2022 you've got metro prime 4 that only looks like this on nintendo switch up ahead the equivalent big blockbuster games that are totally outshining it on ps5 and xbox series x where what's out on the market to the casual fan that's looking this is the first person perspective game on this system and then this one the hardcore nintendo fan we're still going to love metro prime 4 being at a three we're going to eat it up and they probably will look really good on the base nintendo switch but to make it look a little bit better to make it look a little bit more appealing i think that's where that i like calling it nintendo switch plus but that new nintendo switch i think that's going to come in handy so unnecessary because of how well it's selling but almost necessary as a preventative measure of don't look too ancient compared to the the new guys and also nintendo likes to develop games for their systems and they only go to that next system when they can't realize their vision on the current system you know they couldn't do super mario 64 on the snes that's when they went to a new system you know they couldn't pull off win waker on n64 they went to gamecube there's a little more to it than that because they're competing against you know sony microsoft back in the day sega but oh okay could you that was all good but i think with nintendo switch nintendo switch they're in an interesting position it's different than any console you've had before because it's strong and you know you don't want to lose that momentum and i think that's part of it can nintendo switch just fine be the system that is there to play breath of the wild two and metro prime four it's going to be it's going to be the system but nintendo's artists they're engineers that developers do they want to do they see the game of breath of the wild to at its most optimum being in 1080p 60 frames per second i think it's going to come to the developers internally saying you know we want this game to run at this level it was fine running at this level in 17 super mario odyssey that's our vision we had the vision of a you know 900p 60 frames per second game and that's good but going forward we want some more hardware because we want more graphics and graphics processing to make the vision bigger it'll still work on this base model but ideally you know it'll run at 60 1080p the base model could be 3900 or whatever and also maybe to compete you know but then that's another topic of you're starting to divide the market does nintendo switch plus have the capability of playing exclusive games maybe not made by nintendo but by third parties nintendo can't just rely on their own games they do need third party support too an ideal nintendo console has a lot of third party games and switch has a lot more than we did comparatively to the competition you know yeah well that gets into my my concept that i that i mentioned a while ago back in 2017 about how they sort of have it like generations they just keep releasing new hardware and eventually phase of old like this is an iphone 12 you could still get the same operating system in the same apps all the way back to like an iphone 8 or whatever but when the 13 comes out they'll stop giving those updates to the 8 and then slowly but surely there'll be apps you can only get on newer generation iPhones than the 8 and i kind of feel like that's sort of what could happen here whereas like if they release a more powerful switch and they don't call it a new generation it's just the next switch um and it does get exclusive games say even from third parties at first if not from nintendo that's going to be okay because if they just never because my concept is that switch is basically a never-ending generation it never ends they just keep releasing more of them until then they decide to move on from what this concept of a hybrid platform so they want to innovate and do something else so which right now i don't think they really need to and i don't think most people think they need to because the only other you know person in the market right now would be something like a steam deck and steam deck doesn't get exclusives so there's a whole separate market for what that really is um and we have yet to see if that's even going to compete with switch well we'll have we're not going to know i don't think for a while because i don't think they have enough steam decks made even worry about it at the moment the demand for it's way higher than the supply so we have to wait until valve can get that sorted out before we even know if it can even touch switch i don't think it's going to affect switch sales at least i not in this first year here but maybe in a couple years who knows um but i don't think nintendo needs to worry about what sony's doing or what microsoft was doing or valve because again they kind of operate in their own market so a lot of them doing this would be to do what for for akawa keeps saying he doesn't want to happen he doesn't want to see nintendo have that cliff and that cliff happens for multitude of reasons one obviously game support dropping off and two for a while now things have just drastically changed platform to platform now back in the day i think one reason why um you saw sales decline to the snes decline to the n64 etc is because other companies who were doing the same thing as you were doing started doing it in a different better way and so they ate into your market and then on top of that backwards compatibility wasn't even a thing back then um so every time you got a new platform you were basically starting all over again from square one um and obviously uh you know yet sega doing his thing where they they ate until things a little bit with genesis and then obviously playstation with the cds and going a completely different direction in that way and that really ate into his playstation 2 significantly ate into it and that's arguably what led to we existing um and then how nintendo has found success after ditching the traditional let's upgrade to a more powerful platform every time you know maybe change some stuff with the controller but for the most part they're just reiterating controllers from the past with adding new features um you know which is what sony's been doing that's what what xbox does um they decided hey you know we can't keep doing that because other people basically do it better than we do so instead of us doing that and i might talk about power guys by the way i'm well aware gamecube is more powerful than the playstation 2 the power wasn't the problem the mini disk was the problem but that's a whole separate conversation about why some games on playstation 2 still look better than switch well yeah because people had a hard time compressing down to that mini disk um had nothing to do with capabilities but the thing is that's when nintendo started okay when did they get their big success drastic difference in the handheld marketplace two screens one of them a touch screen clamshell design boom blows up 150 million oh we're going to basically give you gamecube hardware again and yes i know guys it was a little bit better than gamecube hardware was basically gamecube hardware in the we but we're going to give you motion controls and we're going to give you a packing game that everyone understands because everyone understands bowling you know if you didn't understand tennis you do now like basic sports that all of us have been around our whole life at some point at least we've seen it right and it was fun and it was fun to play with your girlfriends and your boyfriends and your kids and your grandparents like it was fun um and it made sense and then okay we're going to try you know this whole off tv play but we're going to make it super inconvenient because you're still tethered to a console and you got to be within like six feet of the damn thing to even take advantage of that feature yeah okay it didn't really feel right switch is the right way to do it that was kind of like the it's like a proof of concept but not really that's not really a market ready device and that should have been obvious in testing that wasn't a market ready device but it is what it is uh and nintendo instead of advertising it you know one way they try to tell it saying that this is the most powerful gaming console we've ever made this is our xbox 360 this is our playstation three this is you know for the gamers for you we was for the family you know we you is for you and it's like okay that's cool too bad the other companies a year later are releasing more powerful hardware than what you're offering when you're trying to advertise your thing as super powerful with an unprecedented partnership with ea and all like nintendo has found their success by changing things up but i think changing things up has also led to the cliffs like you don't i can tell you right now i want nintendo to go with this generation less future have upgraded switches every every couple of years every few years slowly phase old month that's what i want nintendo to do what they're likely going to do is never give us a more powerful switch we're going to hit 2024 they're going to they're going to melt this thing till it doesn't sell anymore right it'll be moving two million units in its final year because this is what nintendo has traditionally done you're in that final year you get like one offshoot mario party game or something like that maybe then that's when they decide to finally give us another star fox game and throw it out to die when no one cares about switch anymore and then they're going to give us a drastically different platform than what we've been playing for 10 years and it's going to confuse the marketplace and no one's going to buy the damn thing and nintendo is going to sing it because this is what nintendo does like they can't go back to back success stories with their unique ideas like i think if they would have followed up we with switch never had we you happen i think things might have been a little different there and that's two drastically different directions but not abandoned because this feels like an evolution take this off you still have motion controls this is like an evolution of we well combined with their handhelds and it made sense um and i think that furikawa wants to avoid that cliff so there's a high chance that he might go that iterative route but also this is nintendo and god knows their next platform is going to be another box you put under your tv or it's going to be like a roku streaming stick that nobody buys because it costs $500 and nintendo is like but yeah this is the only streaming stick you could play nintendo games on and everyone's going to be like or i could just hook my phone up to my tv and play the games i already have why am i spending money on it or i already have an apple tv or a roku or a google this or a fire tv why do i need another thing that's in that marketplace oh because nintendo's branded on it like it feels like that's what nintendo has always done is just follow up really brilliant ideas with stupid ones and i'm not and i said by the way i guess i'm not knocking like 3ds and and and we you i actually really like those platforms personally but it's more so a from a marketing perspective it didn't make sense and now here we are i mean even 3ds god everyone thought 3ds was going to be big one ds was 150 million two glasses free 3d and it works this is crazy good yeah but does the marketplace actually give a shit did anyone ever think for a moment this looks really cool who's going to care after a month did anyone ever think like okay it's a cool gimmick but like you can't sell a whole platform on that no no one ever thought about that okay cool so everyone over projected sales saying this is the coolest thing ever and it's like saying vr that's the next big thing is vr but we'll be our yeah it's it's sticking around better than it's ever done before still isn't really super popular and most the time you see anyone play vr it's still when they're at arcades or like random spots stops at a mall that has a vr station like most people aren't installing their home most people don't have the room to have vr in their homes like let's just be honest the best vr setups don't just require cameras the thing they require separate cameras if you actually want super accurate vr and that requires this room in space people don't want to install cameras and all this crap in their house so to this point where i wonder if this president gets it because he's the one that specifically mentioned i've been here a long time we always fall off a cliff i don't want that to happen again well then you have to release a new product that makes sense and is smart and right now like we i under you could understand why they needed to move on from we uh because everyone copied them basically sony added motion to their platform um then they took motion to the next level with vr which was like you know obviously the next natural evolution of motion controls was to go to vr while sony beat you to it and so did quest and so did all these other all these other versions of vr so okay now anything you do there is going to be behind all of that so you can't really go further with your motion because it is what it is at this point you can make better motion controls but you're not going to be able to sell a platform again on the basis of oh we have cool motion sports games like that's not going to work again so then what's next this is what was next but it's just this thing that i wonder if furikawa gets it right now there's nothing next there's nothing replacing this i wrote a lot of people want to add like steam deck is replacing this but it's not it's just another form of pc do people understand how many different forms of pc there are there's a lot of forms of pc and none of them have ever replaced game consoles they've tried companies have tried you think the steam deck is the first portable switch like looking thing have you looked at the gpd win have you looked at all the other yeah okay so this one's only 400 yeah there's been some as low as five and six hundred before two bottom line is they're pcs they're limited to what pcs are they're multitasked they're not purpose built to necessarily play games steam deck i know comes with steam os but if you're using steam os and you're limited to just steam whereas one of the advantages people talk about with steam deck is oh i can put windows 10 on it and then yeah but then you have all the windows 10 overhead and then all the overhead of other stuff and before you know what the steam deck ends up not running as well as you think it should so at the end of the day um there isn't anything purpose built just for gaming that only does gaming that does what switch does dock with your tv easily by the way steam deck you have to buy the dock separately or quick up quick playing go it just works heck you multimedia i mean i guess there's hulu youtube i mean this is like the worst multimedia device in anyone's home it's kind of like hardly anything on it nintendo is very much this is a gaming machine meant for gaming that's all it does everything in its purpose built for gaming we don't give a shit about anything else and there's nothing else in the world that that really touches what nintendo is doing specifically with this platform the way that it does it and so that's why i have this hope that the new president jeter for akaba can look at this switch old ed sales hopefully a switch pro or switch to or whatever they do and be like you know why are we abandoning something that has no competition why aren't we just continuing to push that more and more and more and i understand that by the way not having competition is why we still entering five years in without upgraded hardware competition does help push you and that's why some people hope that steam deck might affect sales a little bit so nintendo then pushes out a new system but also nintendo has a tendency that oh someone else is doing what we're doing but doing it better yeah we're out of here we're gonna do something else and i don't want nintendo to do that so i'm hoping that for akaba sees you know how we avoid the cliff is we stop confusing our consumer base because as nintendo fans does anyone watching this podcast right now have any idea what nintendo is doing for the next generation system see if you're a sony owner you you already know what playstation 6 is going to be right when you were playstation 4 you knew what playstation 5 was going to be right it's it's just a better version of what you already know you don't know what you're getting next from nintendo and i feel like that's for the last 20 years been kind of the bugaboo about nintendo and nintendo owners is we don't know what's next it's exciting but also it could be shit and we have no idea whereas if we just knew nintendo was going to be dedicated to this hybrid format home console on the go kind of thing it doesn't even have to look like switchboard if they're just dedicated to this format and they're going to keep going with this and we knew it for the next 20 years that's what they're doing how much more confidence do we have in nintendo's next platforms and bringing more powerful ones out because hey we know oh what's the next one good okay cool well i'm not really okay with switched away it is not what i can wait for nintendo's next platform because i know it's just going to be this what better i don't know that that's going to happen and i feel like that's a lot of the people want the switch pro now because they don't know that we're ever going to get this platform but better from nintendo anyways because we don't because nintendo has not given us a reason to think that we're going to as i said it could be a streaming stick next we have no idea what nintendo is working on i hope that's not the case i hope they leave streaming to the experts and nintendo can't even get their online gameplay right so please don't go to streaming not yet anyways and i'm okay with game streaming by the way no problem with it i've i've used i haven't i've used google stadia a little bit and it actually works out pretty well and i'm sure my microsoft's xcel probably works fine too i can't imagine it wouldn't they have like the best or second best server infrastructure in the world so i'm i'm i wouldn't be shocked if that works fine i just i i i don't know that nintendo needs new hardware soon but i think what they need is assurities about the future of their platforms and i think as nintendo fans we don't have any assurances that nintendo is not going to abandon a concept that clearly we love and clearly can be expanded on in a way that we couldn't we was a lightning in a bottle product that the the natural expansion of that was vr and nintendo didn't go that route there's not really a natural expansion for what this is there's no what's next well what's next is you do this but better make it better make it more ergonomic maybe you know thin it thin it down a little bit maybe make the button placement a little bit better right fix the joycons different joycon designs you know like there's not really a direction to go with this other than you just make this better you found a way to make a platform that's like what everyone else is doing sony xbox just make a more powerful box just make a more powerful box no one else is in your market nintendo just make a more powerful this and keep it going you have no reason not to accept that you're nintendo and i feel like that's what i want more as a nintendo fan or anything is assurances that this concept isn't going to be abandoned soon that's what i care about more of the so than getting a switch pro okay fine give me a next gen switch in three years but a next gen switch not a something else entirely different that just confuses you like you're going from this to all of a sudden you don't have a portable console anymore or you only have a handheld it doesn't dock anymore like no i don't want that either so just speaking as a youtuber i really don't want that because then i gotta modify the damn thing to get video signal out of it i had to do that with the 3ds so um i don't know like that's well what do you think paul like do you i do you care more that we get a more powerful platform soon or that nintendo just assures us that hey we're this whole concept by the way isn't going like they told us 10 years when this thing came out okay fine but i want to hear that you're not abandoning this concept for until you absolutely have to like i want them to kind of game cube it you keep going till people don't want the damn thing anymore i think they should go the nintendo switch successor route ever evolving you know fluid role because there is no other competition on the market like you said for what it does not even steam deck exactly i i love the system i think it still feels magical you know playing doom eternal for instance you put internal on there there's just something that's like wait a second this is in my hands and i know steam deck is going to give you that experience as well too by the way now so some of that magic's gone a little bit but yeah going from tv and then put it in the car you know sometimes my wife and i you know we switch places driving and stuff like that but playing a game that looks really good and is modern like mortal combat 11 even though that one or dragon ball fighters z is a better example equal parity visually to ps4 xbox one they go on an hour ride she drives i'm sitting portable i take that experience and take it on the go i don't do much flying or you know public transportation but that's my taking my home console on the go i want to see it continue i feel like nintendo is this experimental magician though where sometimes they hit lightning in a bottle and then they want to hit it again and sometimes they're off with virtual boy off you know with we on with we you a little bit too early tech for what they you know we're trying to achieve which is nintendo switch if they want to get experimental i say be experimental with releasing uh n64 classic edition releasing you know a metroid themed um portable handheld kind of like a play date kind of thing like just these offshoots but as far as your main console goes let this be the the future you could argue that you know both 3ds and psp 3ds and ps vita fell after you know ds and psp but was that because the market was interested in handhelds or because smartphones came out kind of a few years in and that's why ah the smartphone market is what took over if nintendo gets a feeling that this is no longer magical that's when they're going to experiment and say okay we gotta do something new again and that's like what you said we're gonna do a roku stick on the side of a tv or we're gonna go back to a disc based console and undo all of the feel that people got from nintendo like they don't have a a very clear identity with the world world the world knows barrio they know zelda donkey kong to an extent they know metroid and star fox and now animal crossing they know the games they know the name nintendo but what does nintendo mean as a hardware thing nothing has ever been like you said yes one two three four five it's been you know switching numbers from super to 64 to gamecube to we we actually it's just called we it's not even called nintendo we yep you know officially so they're all over the place and they've existed for a long time but the general consumer kind of wants something safe something reliable something that they could depend on get behind a brand and i think that the nintendo switch concept is great i wouldn't be i wouldn't you know the greedy part of me says i want nintendo to go hardcore big machine equal power to ps5 series x let me see the next build up on that but i'm also okay with you know i'm okay with the graphics being a little bit of a generation behind just visually speaking than the competition if that's every generation going forward every nintendo every generation you know that we lose use loosely the nintendo machine is always going to play the games close to the competition but their ip is always going to look like the other consoles did the previous gen if you know what i mean you know like you know the next gen switch that's what i always tell people like like you know if you have a newer iphone go ahead and find iphone one pictures and get actual size and hold your phone up to it and all you're going to see is you're using the same phone you were in 2007 differences they kept upgrading the hardware and just making minor improvements along the way that leads to a much better smartphone experience today and there's not really a reason that nintendo can't do that especially when nintendo doesn't have a samsung and lg and all these other companies trying to do what they do and do it do it better and in their own way nintendo is on their own basically steamed x the only thing and even then platforms like that have existed forever for pc and hasn't really impacted anything on the console side because it's still a pc and that's not to knock it that's actually a benefit to that platform that it's a pc but it also is kind of not always as convenient as say switches you know slapping in the dock and picking up there's nothing extra you have to plug in everything's right there the controller slide off like on a steam deck you know you put it in there controllers don't detach you have to have a separate controller as an example like everything you need for switch comes in the box to do everything steam deck you want to make it like a switch okay you're gonna have to end up spending assuming you don't have an extra controller which most of us do but let's say you don't have an extra controller and you don't have to have the dock ahead of time which of course you won't okay well then you're six hundred dollars deep on the cheapest model of it before you can get to all the functionality to switch as in people and that's not even all of it because this has motion controls so if you want even motion control capability which by the way there are some pc games that support it when you got to buy the right motion controls that will sync with that platform as well and so now you're seven eight hundred dollars deep like people look at the steam deck as or if i just hold it in my hand and play games the traditional button controls that's great that's fine not every pc game by the way works with traditional button controls and we don't want to get into that when we talk about steam deck because people want to focus on the games that do but there's quite a few pc games that are mouse and keyboard and that's the way they're meant to be and they suck with controllers some of them don't even have controller options um and i know they give you two little touch pads for you to try to mimic things it's not going to feel good i can tell you right now it's just like there's a reason that you see um people in the game when they game on their laptop they plug a mouse in they don't use the touch pad when they're game it's just not it's not viable um so like that's what people don't understand like when i say that steam deck isn't really competition for this think about all the ways this platform functionally works out of the box for three hundred dollars steam deck you have to buy all this extra shit to get all that functionality so if you think about oh it's four hundred dollars yeah but it doesn't have detachable controllers that you can slide into a thing and have a traditional controller with you you gotta buy that extra it doesn't come with the dock to quickly work with your tv or a monitor you gotta buy that extra so like how did they get the steam deck to four hundred they cut features that switch has and sell it to you separately that's how so if you still want the full functionality of what switch does but with a more powerful platform like a steam mate you still gotta spend a lot more money bottom line is nintendo's in their own market and i want them to keep going this way and i want assurances from nintendo i don't think we ever will get assurances it's not like we get assurances from sony that playstation six is going to be a more powerful that's just we have history history tells you that's what they're going to do why would they stop doing it when the system keeps selling over a hundred million it makes no sense of course they're going to keep doing it why would you throw out a hundred million worth of sales that's dumb keep doing it you know what if it is someone in the chat point if it ain't broke don't fix it well i feel like that's the way we are a switch we're about to enter five years in and this thing might sell 20 plus million in its fifth year okay if it ain't broke don't fix it just keep making better ones there's no reason to change what clearly still sell like we lost its novelty over time i don't think this is lost as not you even mentioned to this day it's still so cool you play doom eternal on here even if even if you buy a switch for your first time today and then you buy breath of the wild and a discount bin for 45 bucks or whatever and you put it in you're still going to be like holy shit i'm playing this in my hands on the go like my phone might be might be better but i don't want to play too many games like this on my phone like it's still one of those experiences that it's like man this is really cool and that's still today four and a half years in so i look at it and i go look they're clearly the demand isn't slowing down for this because unlike prior platforms for nintendo the novelty hasn't gone anywhere and there aren't other companies that are really doing it better per se like we you instantly at companies doing it better so who cared you know i kind of brushed it under the table and that's before you get into the branding and the game pad and was that a mistake and all whatever but this makes so much sense and it's so much momentum that if they just keep making games for it i think it's going to keep selling well i don't know that it's going to always sell at 20 million per year clip but maybe even on down years it's selling 15 million per year that's still a lot of units that's like peak years of some of nintendo's best systems so i think nintendo if anything needs to release more powerful hardware i'd say in the next two years not necessarily um out of necessity because i think they're gonna have a strong enough lineup in 2022 and probably 2023 to maintain a lot of the momentum they have now but to ensure fans on the future of the platform we'll give you a more powerful platform maybe not next year but say 2023 we announced you know in spring or summer that hey we're bringing you a uh this is that you don't have to get it it'll play all current switch games all currently planned games in the future will also play on the current switch but you get this platform this is where you're getting your 4k through dlss this is where you're going to get current games you know Breath of the Wild 2 that now runs at 60 fps on this platform instead of the 30 on your current one and you know um all of them are going to have the OLED screen and maybe here we made some slight improvements to the the joycons where your old joycons can still work with this and you can still use it but we have a slightly new designed one as well that's going to come out with this that you can also by the way take those joycons and use it on your old switch if you want because we're going to have the same rail system and it's going to all be cross compatible so it's still technically all the same generation of device but you know what we're giving you this more powerful one not because we need to compete with PlayStation 5 but because we need to have something that's modern and dedication to this concept dedicating to this concept shows they released that in 2023 you think guys they're gonna magically in 2024 come out with a drastically different platform after just releasing that's the only reason why i want something soon in the next couple years just so nintendo shows me hey we're dedicated to this form factor and we ain't going anywhere all the steamed x had its time in the sun for a couple years oh they finally got their manufacturing that's cool well by the time they got their feet under them for manufacturing here you go by the way this thing kicks the shit out of the steam deck have a good day you know like like that's what i feel like nintendo's in this position for like even a steam deck gets momentum by the time manufacturing's caught up with that platform nintendo could already be like we already we're not even worried like oh now you want the steam deck well hey for the same price we have a better platform that by the way still is detachable controllers with motion control still has the better kickstand still comes with a dock all this stuff for the same price and by the way it's more modern now compared to what you're using and yeah we stuck with nvidia and look it paid off now we're using love lace orange stuff and we're at the bleeding edge and you guys are still doing fine but still using a laptop apu we're using something purpose built for us have a good day because that's one thing people don't talk about with nvidia is they're pulling by the way they're like one of the big things that they made nvidia shield tv popular in china was before switch was there they were letting we games and stuff go over that it was a part of the partnership with nvidia was nintendo would let them bring we games and hd they're pulling that now you can't do that now the switch is there they're saying nope we're done we're not selling these games anymore on the nvidia shield tv and nvidia shield tv sales have been going down well switch fails have been going up and i think nvidia nintendo kind of see what's happening here the future of your mobile gaming apu's is you make them for nintendo that's what it's going to be and that's you know hopefully you know i'm sure nvidia hopes they can convince other console manufacturers to take on their technology eventually um but i think i think nvidia is going to be pushing nintendo because they want to feature their new stuff um and not just in smart cars like nobody thinks about the the gpu's and cpu's that are in smart cars they're actually pretty powerful in some of the modern ones but no one thinks about it like that people want to know okay what could an oran love lace thing do for gaming well you're going to find out on nintendo's next platform because i don't see anyone else picking it up and this by the way i am not a team green guy my computer is literally running a rise in 2700x into 5700xd i love amd i've always loved amd since i was a kid but i mean there's a reason that uh team green seems to always be ahead of team red in the graphics department right now team red has an advantage in the mobile space i don't think that advantage is gonna last nvidia bought arm i just want people like i don't know if people understand how big a deal is that nvidia bought arm arm makes cpu's that are used in super computers they also make some of the best mobile cpu's it's like them apple and uh god whoever does the snapdragon one or whatever they they make like the best mobile cpu's out there and there's really damn good arm mobile cpu's right now that kick the shit out of what's even in the playstation 5 now i don't think switch is gonna have those because really freaking expensive but the point is is that like the technology is all going to be right there for nintendo to sell a 400 dollar device in two years that they might be able to get away with that price point especially if it's not like replacing this if they could still sell this although at this point this will be a 300 dollar OLED model not not this version and they can still sell that yeah look you don't want you don't have to buy that the oh that's sold out this holiday it's cool you can still buy this you can still buy a light you can still play all our latest games on that and then by the time we can get this thing massive stock and all the sale like look what happened with new 3ds everyone literally they stopped making the 3ds because the new 3ds sales just dwarfed 3ds sales so badly it didn't make sense to keep making the 3ds and that i think is where nintendo could see success with a platform like this is you release it in two years and if it starts selling so well that nobody's buying this anymore then you just stop making it and suddenly everything's going green for nintendo and we're talking about all right cool once the upgraded version of this when's the upgraded version for the switch light they can literally redo the light again but with the new hardware and suddenly we're just reliving switch all over again and it just never ends and that's what i want to happen i wish we had that predictable future i know if it was sony we just already knew this was happening for sony in july of 2019 when they dropped the switch light out of nowhere at that point i thought man i hope this is what nintendo does one year a switch two years later a light two years after that a plus two years after that switch two two years later switch two light two years after switch two plus two years later switch three two you know and continue like that and you know what you're getting if you but nintendo is not going to do that they're not going to say that that's what's going to happen things are going to happen when they do but at that point you would have gamers that say ah i won't buy a switch two at launch because i'll wait four years for switch two plus and not hop in early on so by keeping people always guessing early adopters are gonna you know hop on to everything and then kind of nintendo will release whatever they want whatever they want in a generation to get people that have been on the fence on the fence folks i think and i think you know going back to nintendo switch oh well not that we ever left OLED really but i think it's cool i think part of what the naysay was so strong against it was so much more was anticipated if no rumors got out about it no leaks no you know reports accurate inaccurate information combination and nintendo just boom a couple weeks after e3 dropped nintendo switch oh it'd be like oh this is cool we're getting like a bigger screen and oh an improved dock with you know a land port in it oh more ram 64 gigs of memory i mean well storage you know but hey that's pretty cool it was built up too much but i do think it's coming it just you know do they do a more powerful revision and if they do when and then is the successor actually another portable hybrid console how do they evolve it like you said how do they how does nintendo keep it fresh and not lose that awesome magic without going unnecessary or do they say okay we're building the nintendo switch to in mind or maybe not to but maybe down the road we're building it in mind that it's got the screen where it needs to be that it perfectly comes with this little headset and it doubles up as vr without buying anything else it's not the best vr but every system out of the box comes with it or they bring a camera back and they stick it on the outside and they're like well now ar is better and we have a stronger cpu and gpu that we could incorporate our next big 3d mario game and it's using ar like what do they do without abandoning this dual concept to this concept of tv and tabletop mode and handheld is wonderful don't lose that because this is i think an interesting direction for i don't think this is going to happen soon but foldable screens are becoming a thing that's not affordable for average consumers but like something that's a real thing and i feel like a decade from now how crazy would it be for them to release okay here's our next here's our next gen switch it's half of the you know of the thickness of this and the tablet part but guess what people always complain oh yeah now it's got an eight inch screen god that's too big to be portable is it it folds in half and you can stick it in your pocket that's like taking a same concept we just made it more portable for you easy peasy folds in half stick it in your pocket good to go um again this isn't going to happen soon because the full level screen technology is not even close to affordable at the moment but it's just one of those things where you can kind of see ebbs and flows in the technology where one i think one obvious solution is this is a thick boy they can make this thinner the reason it's thick is because they got to have a fan in it there's cooling solutions they can have out there where they don't need to have a moving part in there anymore and then they could thin it up but i will have to see if they go with vapor chamber and other designs like that that exist in things like mobile phones that are thinner but more powerful they could definitely do it it's a question of obviously invidious technology as well and what the power profile and heat profile is on that um but yeah i i obviously think that there's a bright future here let's let's quickly get into this last topic um because i'm very curious uh on your fate i kind of want to hear like your three most anticipated games we for any platform doesn't have to be switch but we're both big nintendo guys so i'm sure there's going to be some switch games in there so what are your three most anticipated games and why are you so looking forward to them three most it's easy to say metroid dread first i mean if you want to hear my number one i'll tell you right now breath of the wild too but i'm trying to go a little more proximity based in time because i don't know if that's going to be a november game or a march game you're going to get delayed in 2023 but metroid dread like i'm a big metroid fan i i've brought up the samus erin statue right here today to kind of have us the background but metroid dread i love 2d metroid i love 3d metroid i love the character of samus erin i always wish that metroid got to be bigger um because it's such a good ip and she's a cool character and you know metroid dread holds a special place because when i was working you know in my gamers dot com one of dot com days and we would get rumors and stuff like that and uh over on ign matt kassan the cna mark boson if you're familiar with those names those guys a lot of us had talks and we're trying to pull what we could out of dread and never went anywhere too much with it so the fact that this vision is coming to i'm excited for nintendo i'm excited as the gamer to get to play that and the game looks beautiful and it's just two months out absolutely stoked for it um breath of the wild to i'll end on my number oh my second game i'll go with my my actual number one breath of the wild finally became my new favorite game of all time it's so easy to hop back into it's such a big world you know you love it i know it's your favorite as well so you feel the same way um i want to see zelda a zelda game each zelda game feels like an event very few games feel like true events that i look forward to in life that i have this association with of when that came came out what time of life it was for me what else was going on i related to uh that mario that zelda game that street fighter game those are like the special trilogy the trio for me i want to see does it have connections to skyward sword what happened to zelda in the fall like are we playing as different links just so much mystery in it that game for sure is my number one as far as like you know what is my third then i mean it's it would probably be of what we know that's coming out you know if we if we could say you know wishful thinking i could probably come up with something else but of what we know it's coming out i was such a huge perfect dark fan back of the game back of the day on n64 that just seeing that little trailer knowing they're going to make it or at least try to make it knowing that it's happening finally every year my prediction video for e3 is just please give me a perfect dark like i know i'm going to get a lot of stuff give me a new one man and i know when they had that reveal that laptop gum hit hit the wall i was like oh my gosh we watched the perfect dark and then joanne it turns around like uh perfect dark you know and i have no idea when's it gonna come out i don't know if the game's gonna look any good but just the fact that it's existing i'd say probably pd you know we want to get in a speculation territory i could throw a couple other ones that like a donkey kong but we don't know if it's real yet so i can't say it for sure otherwise donkey kong would be pretty high you know uh yeah um so like i want to say metro prime four oh yeah oh sorry metro prime four bay another three i forgot uh no yeah i don't want to say metro prime four but like it's not vaporware it's real it's just real it feels like it's still so far off and maybe it's really not maybe it's gonna end up being next year i have no but it just still feels like it's so far off that i'm not i mean i'm really anticipating metro prime four but also i mean it's not like i wake up every day thinking about it because i just don't know if it went i mean it's just like beyond good and evil like too like oh my god am i super hyped for that game but like when in my lifetime do i think i'm actually gonna get to play the damn thing i know it exists somewhere it's like skull and bones i know it exists somewhere but when the hell am i actually gonna get the plan no idea so like my height for these games kind of dies the longer it takes for them to get here because it's kind of like i just don't know when i'm going to get to play these so um my number one game is obviously breath of the wild too but again breath of the wild is my favorite game of all time um the moment they showed that new trailer with him falling from the sky i was already sold and then just every second of that trailer just heighten me to the max so i think i don't have to say i can say a lot about breath of the wild too uh and i feel like i spent a lot of time during e3 and post e3 talking about it so i'm gonna kind of let that be but that is obviously one of my top three most anticipated but after that um it gets interesting because like one game i'm really looking forward to that i don't know if it's getting the it's probably is getting the attention it deserves in the right circles age of empires four i'm a big age of empires guy grew up on it there's a game i've played more than any other like even like world of warcraft that i've got years of my lifetime sunk into like age of empires age of empires one and two specifically i have sunk four years of my life probably into playing those in gameplay time love the hell out of those games and i've been and i played the hell out of the hd versions age of empires three i played a lot of as well didn't enjoy it as much as the first two more so was just a time period it took place and i don't i don't think it really fit well with the kind of game that it was um my age of empires four looks like a return to form and i'm really excited by it they've tried other spinoffs and and online versions of it that that that weren't really good age of empires four looks like everything i wanted to be so far we'll have to see what happens when it comes out because i think it comes out in october um but i'm really really looking forward uh to that one um and then i was going to say much metro dread because um it is such a big deal game a canceled game coming back no one ever thought dread itself like that specific game was ever going to come back you know a fabled in development hell forever then canceled kind of thing um and then obviously just it being a new metro game it being an actual um after fusion you know actual like end of it's like the capper of the of the metroid saga uh as we know it from the original games so like that's cool um and i'm really excited for it and i'm going to probably be talking about a lot of it in october especially and lead up to switch oleg coming out because i can't tell me that white switch oled is not intentional for dread that if they would just call it the metro dread system anyways and by the way guys the switch oled i'm giving away that you only have to be subscribed to win is the white version i ain't screwing you over with no neon version you're getting the white version um but by the way they're making more of the white version than the other one anyway so it's gonna be the more common version uh i'm gonna actually go with a a different game coming out uh in the same month um for switch and i'm gonna go with because i thought we'll go with halo infinite um because i'm very curious about the game and they're making the multiplayer free which i think is a brilliant big move in the world of all the like because halo multiplayer is not battle royale so like you're in the midst of all these other free battle royale games this isn't that and it's going to be free that's really cool that's really cool um and i'll be able to play that on my pc and everything and enjoy it but uh i'm actually really looking forward to mario party superstars and i think it's because and i'm probably getting my hopes up that this is the mario party game that i've been waiting for see the last mario party game was really good i really enjoyed it yeah it needed more maps definitely needed more maps and this one suffers from the same problem of limited maps at least at launch i think they were promising the free dlc maps in the future but um and we didn't get that uh the last mario party game and i really like the mini games the last one but this one's like taking some of the best maps and making them modern taking some of the best mini games making them modern actual actual quality of life improvements like we can all shake our dice at the same goddamn time thank god such a time saver actual mario party online matches yeah there probably won't be a ranking system because this is nintendo but damn i could actually play a full mario party with my friends i get it they sort of added that to the current one i understand but like this is to the next level you can all agree to stop playing save state it come back to it later you can't do that with the current updates in the new the the current one like everything they're doing with this game to me is what it feels like i've always wanted to happen with mario party and now it's happening i'm keeping my skeptic glasses on because i was i got really hyped for mario golf and i got let down they promised me an rpg single player mode and that's not really what they gave you so i'm gonna keep be skeptical but i did really enjoy the last mario party so i'm probably still gonna really enjoy this one even if i don't play online but i'm very excited about the online functionality and features and i'm just hopeful that they do it right hopeful i'm more confident in games like metroid dread more confident even the new warrior wear game i think those games know what they are and they're going to dominate what they are i'm advanced fours one plus two reboot camp or whatever like dude looks great those games know what they are and they're going to own it mario party knows what it is but still hasn't given me the same sort of this is the weird thing hasn't given me the same sort of functionality to play with friends online is a mebo festival and that's a crying shame because the mebo festival really wasn't a very good game but it had better online functionality than mario parties have had and that makes no sense to me that that shitty tossed together by probably five people in the corner of the office a mebo festival game to justify amiobos and their uses and it make it all animal crossing base because god forbid we make an animal crossing game for the wii u which i mean in hindsight they're probably glad they didn't but it's just oh it's baffling to me that they haven't been able to match that functionality in a mario party game until apparently right now but again i was also really excited about mario golf not just the single player rpg but the online and then you get to the online and what made so i think that like with mario golf nintendo lost site of or camo lot lost site of why people were excited for the rpg mode and why they were excited to play mario golf online and that's because mario golf old school was about tournaments and climbing a ladder and trying to become the number one ranked player and there's nowhere in this game single player or multiplayer that you can do that oh you can win a tournament doesn't mean it doesn't rank you anywhere like you're not there's no rankings online there's also no rankings in an rpg single player mode in fact you play one tournament at the very beginning never play a tournament again they talk about tournaments over and over again like 50 times oh you get the platinum rank and you're done well i got the platinum rank and i've won exactly one tournament you didn't even have to win that tournament by the way so it's like i cleaned up courses where's the rpg mode i cleaned up golf courses now they're all open and usable and the mode just ends and it's like no so the mode's a glorified tutorial it that's what they should have just called it single player is a glorified tutorial and i'm worried that well i don't expect online leaderboards for mario party although i think that would be really cool like if they had your stats of how how many times how often you you somehow figured out the lucky dice and how to you know make your average roll of six or something or if you figured out hey you know what i win 75 percent of the time i play online like that would be really cool to have like because if you go to go to things like madden online or call of duty online they have all these stats your wins your losses and like all these micro stats that are just really cool to sift through it'd be nice if they would actually do that for mario party and maybe make it a little bit competitive i think you can have your friendly mode but also make it hey for people that want to play it competitively let them who cares it's mario party i mean all know there's rng and luck involved in some things that is where it is but maybe they're really damn good at the minigame they mastered the minigame so they win all the minigame stars i don't know i just think it would be would be a lot of fun but um that's just my personal take i'm i'm just hopeful i think i just have a lot of hope and i probably shouldn't i probably shouldn't a lot of these mario like any sort of spin-off games i should like the game i should be most excited for is a game that isn't announced yet and that's the next mario card game oh man i see mario card literally nintendo sitting on a 20 plus million seller anytime they want to release it they just have to decide they want to release a mario card game so it's like when maybe that's what they launched switch pro with i i don't know like i get it mario card eight is selling so well but like how well with like a new mario card so with 90 million switches on the market and look to that game was a wii game that still looks great on nintendo switch a little bit better i think mario card eight looks at the best mario card game ever in my opinion most content most characters most track um and in the deluxe version they gave us the good multiplayer not the crappy one of the original mario card eight um but still even with the good multiplayer there there's some older maps i wish they had for that multiplayer that that's a little bit better but man just literally mario card eight's nice and i get that like with every mario card they try to add like unique things i don't even know they need to add unique things just give us another 24 tracks you know give us eight more cups you know give us double the amount of playable characters more customization on the cards and boom mario card nine like oh i want it so bad so well thank you loki raven store by the way i saw your five dollar chat i know you're heading out from the night thanks man appreciate the support the shots for you buddy if there was a one nintendo game though one franchise of theirs that could really benefit from here's the base game we're just going to keep adding dlc would be mario party which gets your hopes up that much more but what a perfect formula now you've got the game you've got nostalgia in there all right every several months you're releasing some little quality of life update but also for seven bucks here's another bunch of classic minigames from an n64 entry a game cube entry whatever that would be a good system to follow for mario card uh for mario party i should say you know i was hoping that the nintendo would do something similar once they brought mario card eight to nintendo switch they would handle it with all right once in a while we're going to release new tracks that would be the thing nothing ever happened you know that a mario card nine has got to be in development and probably on the closer side to being complete if not already complete just when do you release it it's almost you know you realize like mario kart and nintendo switch they're almost at the same point why release a new model old nintendo switch is selling well why release a new mario kart all the ones selling well but you know we need that momentum to continue so i think uh a nine would do amazingly well tomorrow's going to be that you know japanese quarter financial result well which represents the whole world's sales data mario card eight when you add the we you version it already passed we on nintendo switch alone is very close to passing we as just a standalone port in the best selling mario card ever now we we need a few things a few things that seem obvious we don't know if we'll ever get i mean is this really going to be the first console generation or any generation of nintendo that we don't get a mario card game since the snacks i don't think like a new one a new mario card you know and nintendo they're they're so strong right now that we have yet i think we have yet to see the best game or the best single year in nintendo switches life like you might say that the breath of the wild two comes out next year i think that's going to be the best game on the system will it be as groundbreaking as the original no i don't think it can be no i don't think it's possible yeah could it be better it could very well be better if they you know fix some people's issues here and there make it you know bigger prettier it could be better but you throw in some other potentials like a mario card nine uh what do you think first like final answer from you i'll not to put you on the spot i'm gonna try to put myself on the spot too do you think nintendo comes out with a plus pro new nintendo switch model at sometime next year and if they do what do you think is the ultimate game that is released alongside it to show off that power to get the talk going we're talking time of the year if it's going to happen that's a fully loaded question you're putting me on the spot you're trying to get me to say it's coming out with breath of the wild two aren't you oh man that's when like what rumors were even this year like oh it's coming out with breath of the wild two like look i want breath of the wild two at 60 fps so i would love her to just release alongside it i don't think it's gonna happen next year i could be wrong um you know you think about it it was 2019 for the uh switch light and then the version two revision with the with the shrunk down die now two years later we got the switch OLED i kind of feel like it's a two-year cycle so like in two years is when we get the next hardware uh but then again thing to consider and i've been saying this all long is that switch OLED is basically just this but better so then this should go away eventually and if this goes away in a year and they drop the price of switch OLED to match the price point of this when they decide we're discontinuing this model but we're dropping the price of the switch OLED to compensate and it's going to be 300 it's going to replace it it's basically a strip i mean the writing is on the wall that switch OLED i mean literally guys it has a bigger screen but it's only 0.1 of a millimeter wider otherwise it's the exact same dimensions so it's literally this without a bezel and a better screen and with obviously a better kickstand and all that but it's clearly a replacement so the caveat is if next holiday this is discontinued replaced with switch OLED and they drop it to 300 then it's like well i kind of just open the marketplace back up for another model at 400 and do they say screw it we're going to launch it that i mean i don't know i don't think it's going to happen i think it feels like based on switch so far it's an every two-year thing so the next iteration to switch or next change in switch will be in 2023 that's what i've been leaning towards for a while but damn what i like to know breath of the wild too is going to be 60 fps that'd be and like breath of the wild too already looks really great in that trailer but it's like yeah but it needs 60 fps like i want 60 fps in breath of the wild i want 60 fps and everything that's that nintendo puts out but uh we'll see like i think next year has the potential to be i think almost like a 2017 if not better 2017 to me right now is the best switcher yet they really that nine month period they killed it um so many i mean the right wii u ports like mario kart you know the right new games the swatoon 2 and odyssey obviously breath of the wild was kind of a sort of a port dual release kind of thing like they had the right sort of things um and heck if people don't forget hey guess what mario plus rabbits was a 2017 game and we're getting a new one next year that looks even better like i didn't think it could look better you can definitely tell this studio that ubi sauce had more time with switch now because this game looks even better uh swatoon 3 to me visually anyways looks even better than the swatoon 2 swatoon 2 to me especially based on when it came out was probably a wii u game that they ported the switch i'm like any of those really early so like even odyssey i feel like all those games were originally being built for wii u um so like an odyssey 2 or the next mario game when the hell is that coming since 2017 when the hell they got to be making something they didn't just sit on their hands and over only making that bowser's fury mode we're not doing anything else get out of here you're clearly working on something when the hell are we getting that um maybe that is going to be next year and that's just a surprise they're keeping in the tank they're keeping that bullet in the chamber they're like oh we could show this anytime why show it now when we got legends archies between three sparks of hope and breath of the wild too next year why do we have to unleash that chamber right now we can wait let's let some of those games come out then at e3 be like by the way this holiday odyssey 2 wait what okay this is literally 2017 all over again what the hell else are we going to get next thing you know we're going to we're going to be getting some major third party port that we didn't expect of course knowing our luck they'll announce gta 6 next year and then it finally say we're getting gta 5 on switch with it still to this day don't know why we don't have it it's not a hardware like it was on the xbox 360 okay we could have gta 5 but i know they focused more on the multiplayer and that's where all their money's made but still um i don't know it's i and that's the thing like i'm really excited for what's happening next year with nintendo's games but it's like what's going on with third party i think third party is the interesting one because if you think about nintendo's major third party support yes we've had the mortal combats the mortal comet 11 we we did have the civilization six uh the diablo which that's you know whole issue with that company right now i don't know people want to talk about games coming from them at the moment um but uh a lot of the major third party support you know even though we talk about the witcher threes and all that have been things like doom the maternal wolfenstein 2 wolfenstein new colossus that's now a microsoft studio and for all i could tell those games are all going to be future be exclusive to xbox and xbox platform xbox game pass platform i should say so switch isn't one of those at least it's not right now maybe it will be in the future but it's not right now so that's like even forget xbox series x and playstation 5 that feels like a whole crop of third party games and we're just not going to get anymore we got skyrim you're not getting the next elder scroll it's not happening it's going to xbox only or game pass only platform so i i'm wondering like nintendo's gonna reassure us like this year you can argue what's our what's our big third party games issue well we have no more heroes 3 monster hunter rise it was obviously huge from capcom and stories too i mean those are those are two big ones from capcom but the contracts they locked in eventually go into pc as well um shimigami tensei 5 that's the other big one coming later this year which by the way it looks really great and if you love personas and you love that kind of stuff shimigami tensei 5 go play you're gonna love it but what the hell's happened and after this year for third parties in terms of multi-platform games shimigami tensei 5 is exclusive monster hunter rise exclusive where's our mortal combat 11 oh we get mba2k again and we'll probably get her to get next year we're going to keep getting mba2k until they stop making them for playstation 4 but like what's going to be our big multi-platform is that going to be the big multi-platform game next year it's just going to be another mba2k game which i'm glad they they've i want to give 2k a lot of credit by the way for mba2k it's not a dumb down version it's the full version of the game every single year with the modern engine every single year they just have the frame rate and lower the resolution and they give you a playable worthwhile experience on the go and i love that and fea for not doing that with fifa thank you so much for actually giving us the real mba2k game on switch um and continuing to do it while next-gen platforms are out i really appreciate them doing that obviously it must be selling well enough for them to continue to to do that as well and that's a good sign for future support from that company on a future nintendo platform i don't i don't think that company obviously they're they're also parented by the company that owns rockstar that could give us more but you know it whatever it at least is a good sign that they might try to do more on nintendo's next platform since they're seeing success with mba2k but i'm just like what's going to be that big third party game next year that's multi-plat coming to switch that's going to shock everyone like it's funny we're at this point now where every multi-plat from third party game and now it's like comes a switch it's like a shocker that it's coming to switch people are surprised and now next like like like i could think of one game right now that's been delayed golem people don't talk about it it's a lord of the rings game and people are you know that those games have been really hit and miss over the years but like golem looks really promising at least it did in the initial footage it's delayed now so we'll have to see when we see it again that was a next-gen game that was going to come to switch as well well supposedly day and date we'll have to see maybe it ends up getting canceled is that going to be the game i mean we're still sitting here waiting for the lego star wars skywalker saga everyone's waiting for that i don't what's happening with that game why it's in development hell because i saw this game back at e3 2019 behind closed doors and it looked amazing it looked like the greatest lego i mean forget lego game it might be the greatest star wars game i've ever seen the game looks i don't know did you get to see it behind closed doors it was so oh my god oh that game it looked great and that's already you know two years ago yeah right like and i understand covid so maybe they've had a hard time getting it to the finish line and i gotta tell you guys that star wars like the lego star wars skywalker saga game is very ambitious like nine never it's nine movies in one game all nine movies in a single game and yes you can travel between the planets and like oh like oh my god it's insane the scope of this game is absolutely insane and like i don't i don't even like calling it a lego games i feel like that's almost discrediting it because it's so far more than just breaking stuff and building little things to solve puzzles like a lot of like it's so much more than that it is star wars at the core with a lego aesthetic and it just works and it's so oh my god it's hard to explain like because in most lego games everything's built on a lego's that's not that's there's parts of this terrain that's actual terrain from the movies it's not just lego versions of that terrain it's oh my god i'm so pumped by this i i've been oh i know it's supposedly still coming out this year still no release date so i i mean play i i was like i don't know what's going to be that big third party game i have no idea i'm just hoping like mortal combat 11 sold well enough to get the the next one i'm hopeful for that we'll see we did get the big thing more combat 11 that i give the developers a lot of credit for is that was day and date a lot of switch versions are not day and date so that was a big deal to me but i'm not a fighting game fan so i just kind of want it to come just for variety on the platform the at some point someone mentioned ban on a three so again ban on a three is another one of those games that falls in with uh that's going to be exclusive to the platform you know like nintendo i mean that's even more because nintendo pays for it um you know a project triangle strategy might come out first on switch but then on everything else or maybe it releases on everything else at the same time but like what's going to be that that third party game that shocks people like witcher three was a massive shock when that was announced like wait that's coming to switch switch can't run that and then you play it and you're like you know what this is a passable experience and especially after they added the extra settings that you can adjust in the game became an even more passable experience for like oh yeah we're not going to get more than 30 fes but we can you know up the sharpening do this or that and also you know what this look half bad on the go i can play this um and like doom eternal again doesn't look half bad on the go doesn't look great on the tv especially when you see it on other things like yeah you see it on the platform looks way better on tv but i mean on the go it's passable so what what's going to be like like doom eternal was like that big shocking game like the most recent one i can think of so like what's the next one i have no idea is there going to be a next one or now that we're in the next gen is that it we're we're done with the impressive down porch to switch at least the current switch hardware i'm hoping for something like an injustice three you know because we know that some of you know the wb stuff coming out like the suicide squad killer suicide squad kill the justice league and uh gotham knights um we know that's only on ps5 series x but will you give us an injustice three or a street fighter six or something like that Elijah in the chat trying to remind us to hype up sonic rangers sonic guardians of the galaxy not a giant guardians of the galaxy but again it's coming into streaming game yeah which by the way i don't know the problem with so i mentioned before i don't know the issue with streaming games and i do think streaming games is a nice way to get triple a games on switch that can't run um but the more and more of these games that come out on switch you know we got what we got that game we got control um hitman three uh i had no resident evil sevens available but only in japan um i think there was one other one that's only in japan i can't remember right now but anyways we got like three or four major big um triple a streaming games on switch and i think that we're just going to keep getting more and more and more of those games and more and more does feel like there needs to be some sort of service for these games because the selling point of these games is is the same issue stadia has 60 bucks a pop to play a streaming game you can't guarantee you can always play and that's a hard sell on switch like oh yeah the the streaming is fine especially when you're wired in it's fine but it's also you know i'm spending 60 bucks to stream a game that i can't really play on the go i have to play in dock mode um i mean some people have no problems with their wi-fi connections and can do it like my my router has no problem with my switch so i i can i can stream games on my switch in my house but still it's a god you know this is where i keep hoping that xbox and nintendo are working together so like xcloud comes the switch and that replaces this and gives us a clean way to stream games are we that's like a fee you pay a month instead i don't know maybe that's just my hope maybe some people are fine you know i mean maybe people do like google stadia's model because after all you can subscribe to pro and you do get some games for free but all the games you really care about aren't on pro you have to buy so maybe people are okay with that i don't know google stadia still technically exists so maybe maybe it's doing okay like people keep thinking it's in trouble because they close the game studios and i'm like or they just close the game studios because amazon did too and so did everyone else because they suck at making games making games is expensive starting new studios from companies that have never done it before it's hard ask microsoft microsoft had game studios and they still struggled to found new ones they had to go buy a bunch so like you know it's it's not an easy thing to do so it's almost like i don't know if that's a sign that stadia is doing bad stadia is still around it's still coming to new platforms and now i guess they're trying to last thing i heard is they're trying to sell it to companies to be able to rebrand it as their own streaming service now or something like something stadia is trying to do um i don't know all i know is the more of these streaming games that come in more if you like nintendo needs something to consolidate it and make it more affordable i don't know just more realistic but then again maybe the sales of these streaming games are just fine i have no idea maybe hitman 3 sold a million copies on switch and we just haven't even heard about it i mean i doubt it i really really doubt it i think we would have heard that it sold a million i think they'd be like oh shit a million on switch we'd be getting a hell of a lot more streaming games right now let me tell you but um i don't know we'll see what happens um i think that's uh going to do it i think for this podcast a little bit of extra long well but we have not had a podcast in a while we had a lot to talk about there's a lot more we could have talked about there's so much stories going on we didn't even bother to touch on the stuff happening at activision and lizard i'm just going to kind of let that keep developing over time and we'll cover it when i don't know maybe maybe towards the conclusion of it all um and and which i mean there's active lawsuits so it could be years before we have any conclusions but um we'll see what happens with that we'll talk about that more in a future podcast when more stuff happens there has been a few moving parts president of lizard is no longer there he stepped down probably forcibly so but contract reasons they probably couldn't just outright fire the guy so they just made him step down or he was gonna lose his pension or something who the hell knows um and then the hr person was also let go um at least that one that person looks like they might have been fired more so than them stepping down but i don't know there's more more that's gonna happen uh there's now a two lawsuits happening because people who walked out are pissed about the law firm they hired to do their internal review because they're anti union law firm and like clearly they're trying to make sort of a union it's there's a lot of bad going on there so that's something we'll talk about um in the future i think when there's i think when all the information's out there because right now we have the lawsuits and all the allegations and some really bad responses by poppy kottick some words he's saying publicly or did say publicly that just didn't make sense um when you have the state of california coming at you and your initial responses you're lucky we're in california we could just leave like okay bye i don't think california cares see ya like that's not gonna change the lawsuit because they're suing you for things that already happened but sure like i don't know if bobby kottick survives this i'd be very surprised i'll just say that the investors are really pissed off right now this isn't even like this isn't just the employees the investors are mad and when the investors are mad that's usually the end of the ceo so we'll see what happens there i know there's going to be some cheering in the streets of the lizard employees i'm sure even at division employees when that happens um there's already been controversy with that ceo by the way guys for those who don't know he barely got his bonus his most recent bonus barely got approved by investors um for like 150 million dollars or it was something nuts um and the guy's just making bank while the company posts record profits and continues the fire people all year long so that makes sense we're making more profits than ever so let's just fire people i guess that's how they maintain their profits i have no idea you figure call duty war zone being a baller game making them bank would be why figure the wow expansions doing well or wow classic doing well would be why they're making all this money but nah you gotta fire people i i don't know that company frustrates me people get frustrated about ubisoft activision frustrates me way more than ubisoft and even ea does like oh my god activision blizzard just my mind hurts thinking about it um thank you guys so much for tuning in i want to give a shout out to paul gale uh do you have anything you want to let people know like where they can find you or like what maybe you're working on if you have any new videos or articles or anything you're working on i do i mean i have a youtube channel which is on the smaller side which is just paul gale network i'm also on twitter and instagram i have a website my site is kind of a variety site and you know it deals with marshal large tutorial even if you look at my youtube channel there's a lot of stuff that might not make sense to one market like i have people that follow me specifically for my karate tutorial of kata and personal defense and personal training they see some gaming stuff that i cover they're like i don't i don't care what you have the other side it's almost like i should have other channels but you know what when you follow my site or you follow my channel and what you get are my interests right and that's what i like to talk about and that's cool so uh as far as anything new goes um i did a fun thing almost 10 years ago which was a a body transformation video where i went super sane and it was just like a several weeks of exercising i cut it before and after and i went from goku to super sane goku since that was like 10 years ago that's actually something that i'm working on now i'm going to do a sequel follow up because i'm gonna i'm 38 now instead of you know 28 so that's the only thing you know major that's like new and entertaining that's probably gonna come within the next several months aside from that still talking to developers trying to catch new stories following up on games and uh yeah appreciate you having me on the show like i said as a fan of you a fan of yours a fan of fellow gaming and nintendo talking to like-minded people of a similar age group and just you know having your 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