 We gon' talk, we gon' have fun We be on fire, we be live lit It's a unique hustle, big shit It's a unique hustle, it's your boy E-C-E-O And I'm one of the most, by the way And we create content every damn day Check it, man, we got a special guest, man We got my boy DeRoe, he in the building, baby Uh-huh Yeah, hey, man, so, hey, man I'm gonna be honest with you, man This cat right here, he a rapper That's why we bring him on Man, I'm not a rapper, I'm saying this I can't ask the question I'm not a rapper, man Did you see the song? When did he drop it? When did he show you he was a rapper? Today? Whoa! Oh, he birthing this up now I ain't birthing nothing, I just had some old stuff back in the day that just It just out of the world I know for a fact that When I was put out, it was a win because he went with this shit that was going on I don't make songs just because I don't make songs just because I make songs just because it's going on with lifestyle What's happening in life The role music is in the building, man Hold on, hold on He look like Earl Spence, too Crab tree, Michael Crouchy I was trying to scold and say, man, Earl look like I don't see that No, shout out to Earl Spence, man Shout out to Earl Spence, man Let me ask you this question, man I gotta bring this up while you here Since he your number one Mode 3, man, I seen you last time I seen you, I was 3 Whatever, Mode 3, man Check it, man, this guy right here You was with Mode 3 It was you Mode 3 and Watts Cause I know Watts and y'all was doing So I guess Watts do some engineering for you Oh, B Watts Shout out to B Watts I can't find you, nigga You changed your number B Watts went to Lancaster with me And PV Oh, B Watts told me some things, man B Watts said he did a lot of engineering on that He did What did the song, the two songs Mode 3 did We watched recorded Y'all was in the studio No, no, I wasn't there I just watched y'all real close I wasn't letting them get away, man Me and Watts already had linked up So when I seen it, I said, man Y'all putting something together That's what I be looking at So that was a special night Especially now, man, with that Untimely demise, to be honest I heard you say something about You glad that you got to, you know Really give him his roses while he was here Do something with him Nah, man, 3 talked all the time Personally, like, you know 3 would pull up on me all the time I can't tell you how many times 3 pulled up on me I'd be at the W Cause I was staying at the W for a little while You'd pull up on me there, you know what I'm saying He would always ask, like I remember linking them with the studio there He in the recording there, the legacy I remember he came to me He was trying to Distribute his music on his own I was telling him how to use tune Core and how to just be independent And do that stuff, so he would pull up on me Stuff like that sometimes We ran into each other a lot, you know what I'm saying A month before he passed We was on the same flight as Las Vegas We was on the flight, you know what I'm saying Sitting right by each other, you know what I'm saying He was sitting in the seat behind me Him and Rainwater, you know what I'm saying He talked all the time, and I remember when he did That show at House of Blues And you know what I'm saying He packed out the House of Blues That's when I hit him, I remember texting him I was just like, that's when I told him he was doing this thing I was proud to see that And that's when I personally gave him His flowers, just to hit him up like that And then, you know One time at a car show He couldn't perform It wasn't that he couldn't perform It's that he had stuff going on It was like a super early slot In the 979 to beat car show I remember that Yeah, so at this time It's nobody there, and it's not You know what I'm saying, to do mode 3 He popping at this time, it's not the early mode 3 He should have been in the middle of the show So when they did him like that He reached out to me And told me about it, and I was just like They gonna let me do my thing You know what I'm saying, at the car show I bring you out in the middle of my sit Do your thing, he ended up doing like a full sit In the middle of my sit But I knew the city wanted that You feel me, and I knew That's where he was supposed to be anyway So it didn't really feel like that was something I was just doing This was supposed to happen, you feel me I don't know why they had him right there anyway He was real appreciative of that You feel me, so I liked the 3 from the Jump 3 was the first rapper in Dallas to ever Come and embrace me At the Boosie Badass Bowling for Diabetes Game, I think it was like 2015 Where Man 3 met Mode 3 came to me, and he He really He really bigged me up and told me how much he fuck with me And we locked in And he just did a lot of stuff that At the time, most people from Dallas Wouldn't do other rappers So when he did that It made me look at 3 different I heard a lot about him Everywhere he go, he like that He embraces, I don't see it He want everybody to be together No hate or shit at all He was really the first one to come to me Like that, you know what I'm saying Most of the time, it just wasn't like that So I saw something different right then Plus I had already just caught wind Of his music Right around that same time too Prior to before, I remember one time Rainwater ran to me At South by Southwest And told me he was managing somebody named Mode 3 And how he should go about doing that And then you know, that's when I started tuning in To Mode 3, and that was like a couple months Before this happened So it started happening then, so once we locked in He was already a favorite of mine Just for that, and then I saw his growth through the music So you know, I liked it through a lot You know what I'm saying? That's so much love, the thing I'm going to let you ask a question Because you look like you got something you want to sell What I was going to say is When Booster first came home When he had that white on, then he had that white on I don't think, I don't remember Because I've been there Shout out to Booster for that Remember that was early on He had just come home You know what's crazy? So right before he got locked up That's his number 2 I'm going through his top 3 The week Booster got locked up For that long stand he did I think it was like 4 years or whatever Or however long that was That same week I was at his crib In Louisiana In Baden Rouge? I was at his house and we was working on some stuff That ended up getting the computer Because when the feds raided It was probably some days And when it was messed up I remember leaving this crib It was late and I was tired and I was just like I should probably get these files From the session You know what I'm saying? I can get them anytime And I didn't get them and 3 days later The place got raided Everything and the computer never gave it back So we never got to put it in that stuff He did a remixed ice cream paint job It was another record we did It was just stuff he I heard him saying that Oh it's crazy Because it's crazy how Boosie And 3 linked up and how they were Because Boosie was the first National artist In the industry period to embrace me Like on tour He came up to be Nobody had done that Nobody in the industry I was always the one Approaching him or somebody would introduce him But Boosie walked up to me It was the same way 3 was So when I saw them link up I liked it But when Boosie got locked up I was like damn We didn't get to put the music out But as soon as he got out I got in contact with As soon as he got out we talked Maybe the same week I was like I got a record Ready for you right now We ended up shooting a video He came to Dallas on his own We shot the video He was doing that early on That's how he loved Dallas But the thing is With all the stuff that happened in Dallas Throughout the last However long it's been How do you see us getting past All of this Time heals different things But bridging those gaps Like I said I see a lot of stand up dudes You see some young dudes Just rapping It's a lot of people trying But the city still need healing Time heals all But you got to learn from Everything that happened And it's a lot of things That came over the city Because Nipsey Hussle That was a homie One thing about Nipsey When he did pass His energy went Nipsey changed a lot Even here in Tech To where you see a lot of the people Took on a lot of different mentality To be on some community Happened stuff and that The stuff that he was on A lot of people out here in Dallas Was influenced by that With the three situations The city got to learn from That's the only thing you can do Is it a negative energy? It put eyes on the city It did It put eyes on the city In a negative way But also in a positive way too In one way because Mo3 blew up Worldwide Through his debt unfortunately And he was going there anyway Like that wasn't going to happen His next step Was into the big light That would have happened Regardless It wouldn't have took him passing for that to happen That was happening Regardless but when that happened That happened At the end of the day Mo3 made a lot of good music He was on his own topic and on his own energy But to say Anything It was good music The craft of the music The flow, the melodies How he put it together He brought that A lot of light got shed That has created it to the city of Dallas That Mo3 gave It's a lot of ways to look at it Overall it's unfortunate It's very unfortunate Like I said everybody When you see two people coming up And Mo was coming up at the same time When you start seeing that All of us knew Me and Trap We got records out Me and Trap got a record out We did one that we didn't put out You know what I'm saying We got cool through Michael Crabtree He linked us At one point I don't know who was rocking That's what you know what I'm saying It's crazy You know what I'm saying My baby mama was like best friend You know what I'm saying We just kind of always been aware each other We'd have talked a lot a few times You know what I'm saying But as far as just that whole situation It was just an unfortunate situation So what Don Chief He was on your first ice cream paint job video How the hell y'all get so close Talking all the time Because Don came over here He real fly man When I first came out When I first came out Chief He was already in the He was a nigga with the money You know what I'm saying I remember putting up the big team We were doing something up there And I was just always the nigga that was on the ground And Big Chief was already in the Maserati He was still his same Chief So he was already there But you know He embraced too Like a lot of people Coming in especially in Dallas You're going to get either deflected Even if it ain't aggressive or directly Sometimes people ain't going to just fuck with you Chief wasn't necessarily that You feel me Especially during that time At this time this one The whole movement was starting to happen And Chief was the only one Not associated with The quote on quote dance boogie movement See I wasn't even no boogie My music came up through it I saw what was going on And I was able to just use the boogie movement And fuck with it too Like I like rapping on a boogie boot But I didn't necessarily make dance music I didn't have no duties or anything like that Even Walk That Walk was just I was talking to my female They made a dance to it I never made a dance song So I was in between The movement And Chief was on the outside of it He wasn't with that shit at all I didn't give a fuck It is our sound I saw everything In real life Frank and all of them They were done at PV too That's another one PV was that So during that time That's how Man Chief got it We started doing music And then Man Chief always somehow End up getting tied back together I've seen Baby doing this too So Baby We end up doing a record and then Chief We end up getting tied in I had an ex-girl End up being Big Chief Cousin We pulled up to one of the functions And Big Chief said it's my cousin Chief your cousin We pulled up with him I was in the same place When y'all did that When y'all standing out We said the lights You said the lights I was glad Chief threw me on that You know what I'm saying At some point during that time Before that Chief I ain't gonna say Chief fell out I don't know Chief went rockin With me because of the book I don't know what it was I don't know what it was But then I stayed at the Mosaic I will say Chief will stand up Because what a lot of niggas won't do Like If I do something where I feel like I was wrong Niggas won't say that, they won't come and brace Chief came, I was at the Mosaic He was at the Mosaic He came down the suite one time And we just chopped up I came at this situation wrong I respected that because nobody don't do that Especially from Dallas We the most ego It's a certain type of demeanor That the average person Picks up and it's just because Of the city atmosphere So niggas don't do that in Dallas And when Chief did that I respected him more Then we did the 3D Anthem after that He threw me on there and we did a couple other records And I love that the 3D Anthem That thing went hard man You went on 106 in Park Yeah But then it was you You went on 106 in Park I heard Pooka Leroy mention on 106 in Park One time that bus There's only been a few of y'all I can't really remember I did 6 in Park Oh you were killing I was in front of the TV Yeah I can't really think of too many I think you and Pooka are the only two niggas that I seen do that That's it out of Dallas I ain't see nobody I'm trying to think I think the GS boys might have went on there Yeah Because the old boy Prince was here And he said he wanted BET award He almost wanted BET award They were dancing on that thing Yeah they had the stinky man They were doing stinky man Girls come on stage with them So they was on there I did be thinking about the history I like the history of how we came into play I think Michelle fell on there Michelle who? Michelle with Beyonce and them Oh yeah I was watching man You a kid man I was telling you the epic moments Man the role is on there Because I was team you know Dallas So when I see something I be like oh yeah we in there man You know it's we I remember that That was a good time man How did you like it I ain't never been So you was crazy You get your dressing room You go in this little small space You get your dressing room It ain't nothing like But when you go out there you can The energy there it was just like I remember the first time I went on there I was just like damn this shit I'm here Then I kept going and then like the last time I went Nicki Minaj brought me up She announced me out It was doing some type of special I was going to perform It was a new year special That's what it was And they brought out everybody who had The big record side and I had The host that they used like her for the Host at this time Because she was that same Nicki she Yeah she was coming She brought me out I remember she said my name wrong But I didn't go for it I think it was like Young Guns And Lil Wayne He was rapping it was that Peter Guns That song they had I seen that on 106 I'm just thinking back I know what you're talking about I'm just thinking back Yeah Nicki you young man I was on there I was on there I don't know I just know that Nicki was young and up on that stage She not that much older than me Yeah it was crazy during that time 106 was probably one of my favorite times Like out at Lil Bowie was up there He started hosting it Towards the end I remember When I first went To Roxy and Terrence First was A.J. and Free A.J. and Free first Yeah but I was You talking about it though Eddie Murphy was with Roxy at the end Yeah I heard about it Yeah by the time I got on there It was Terrence and Roxy So what would you say to a young guy Trying to get in the music industry today With your business savvy What would you tell him He's 16, 15 years old What would you tell him to do To kind of keep himself relevant Or how would he go about it As cliche as it sounds Nothing still wins Bigger than originality And to be honest with you When you think about even a Dallas artist They won by being from Dallas When you talk about a MOT3 When you talk about myself If you want to yell and trap You know what I'm saying They won from being from Dallas The last person that came out of Houston Was original It only been two Because she's the first female Texas rapper When I really think about it But South Walker and B. King Everybody else You got a lot of people coming out Both these cities but it's so intertwined With different sounds Even if they good You only stand out when you can be identified You get what I'm saying The more you original Whether it's your own sound Or you represent The bigger impact you're going to have And that's the biggest advice I can give Because that's how you stand out If you can be real good Sounding like something else And you can make it that way But it ain't going to have a bigger impact Than if you come out with your own That's what you do Exactly, you got to be And that's why I say people like even MOT3 MOT3 is MOT3 From Dallas Even when you want to talk about A trapping yellow, they from Dallas Whether you like Their music or not or whatever You can identify Identity is the biggest thing about this That's what I like about South Walker Because when he first came out of Houston He was the first person to come out of Houston In a long time that just had That South Walker You know what I'm saying Everybody else was coming out They was from Houston You can't just pick them out And that's the biggest thing you can have As an artist is just an identity You're talking about yourself That's how I came out So that's my biggest advice If you come with your own identity Which is really just being yourself Standing on that Self-awareness Most people think they have to pound To whatever's popping Whether they admit that or not If somebody can come out right now Less talented than a lot of people If they got their own identity They're going to pop You know what I'm saying? Just because you can Identify Identity is the most important thing Why my face so fresh That's me in mode 3 That's what I was playing that night It just came back to me I remember By the fact we got a record That I ain't even released yet You're going to let it out? Hopefully I can get it out this year I wanted to talk about Give us a brief because I know I won't keep you too long But on the next projects That's coming up and coming The ones we got to watch for This summer I'm going to put out the Roe Music Album We just put out the first single Which is a record called Hit a Lick Man, Sauce Walker We really went back to the Texas sound You got to leave me with Sauce Walker Because I know some people that knew him But I got to get to it We're going to shoot a scene for the video You know what I'm saying? Yeah I pull up We're going to try and get that Shoot that like this month I go to LA and then when I come back I'm going to try and shoot that Oakland embraced you a lot didn't he? Yeah that's who blew up You thought they thought you were from Out there almost I wasn't trying to hear that I thought I was from Oakland Shout out to them The Roe Music Album Is really If you listen to the Hit a Lick single And just that cadence The Album called Star Baby And one of the intros The song called Star Baby And I redid the bar baby So like it's that sound That's what the Roe Music Album is And then I'm dropping a 6-3 album At the end of the summer It's probably going to be more like an EP And it's going to be more like what I'm doing With the 24-8, the twerk ward You know what I'm saying? Brand is kind of just more club-ish More up-tempo, more bangers Both of them dropping You make sure when they drop You come back by here I want to bless you anyway It's something I'm trying to do So when I call you back Like I got a little running coming back I always just try to bless y'all You know what I mean? When I tell y'all we wouldn't be where we at man So I got to definitely get you back on here When them projects drop You just got to promise me you're going to come back You know what I mean? You got anything else you want to add? Who better 6-3 or the Roe? That's crazy because that's going to be That's going to be the conversation with the album To be honest with you The reason why I even came up with the concept Is because when I first dropped my album My first album Ice Cream Paint Job came out and I did the album with Dill And it was self-titled to Roe Music My fan base split up Like on that album If you go back and listen to it It's the only songs that are like Ice Cream Paint Job and Walk That Walk Wire to the T or those songs The rest of the album Is just real substantial It's way different from the bangers So my mainstream fan base Came for those records They came for Ice Cream Paint Job Walk That Walk Wire to the T and a song called Trunk Bang with me and Tum Tum They came for them songs for that album And I gained a whole different audience That just came to see The ones that was like I end up getting them fans They end up loving the album And the ones that came for them hits That was disappointed that I didn't Make a whole bunch of those bangers So the difference is There's more like the 6-3 records And the Roe will be the other stuff The album records So my whole thing Is to see who is going to be the biggest Because it's really going to be like The music is going to be different And they're literally going to have two different fan bases And by the end of it After I drop the 6-3 project I know who the people rockin' with the best Me personally Me personally, I like both though Me as an artist I'm not satisfied I can't do one and be satisfied I gotta do both Sometimes I'm in the mood to just make straight bangers I want to keep it simple I want to have the energy But then I'm not in the mood to do that I really want to create a craft music I really want to make some substantial Those two different moods The visuals on this Is it going to be crazy? I'm going to think you're going to do a video with every song I'm crazy The visuals are so important We already started By shooting some of the visuals We've been shooting a star babe The visuals are different The 6-3 visuals are going to be different From the DeRoe visuals It used to be back in the days When you first started On the visuals I got a good team of people We put them together I spend more money On my actual music Then I spend on anything else You know what I'm saying? If I get $100,000 I put 80% of it in the music Before I get a car or anything Now especially And I kind of always been that way I spend for That mixing and mastering You feel me? My mixing and mastering is almost 1500 per song 2000 a song Just for one song shot to KY Set Kirk as he passed Set Kirk was a me and future engineer He's been mixing out my stuff for years He's passed and KY I spent on that Even for a video When it comes to these new concepts I spend on that So they are going to be bigger Majority of them Some of them you don't have to Depending on the song Where you're going with it Some stuff don't need to happen It just depends on that This album That's why I've been taking me so long to get it out Even with this sauce walker It took me a long time to get it out Mixed right, I had to get that The concept So that's what takes a long time When you're trying to do it that way Anything you doing in Texas With you and sauce walker or nigga I'm all the way live We for the turn in Texas way back up Because really I want to see the whole My goal is Texas and Dallas And then I'm mixing it with the stuff I'm doing In the LA But I really want to see Texas Get back on that just Texas shit Even if you do it in your own way That's what I want to see new artists do Dallas shit, Texas shit Even I want to see the Houston artists On that Houston shot I had Trillipoke, B-Banks They've been driving up They came right on the blackboard They came straight here He like the new Charlie boy I've been fucking with Trillipoke No shame, he just on here He do the hooks man, there's a lot of stuff You can do with the artist here Trillipak Keywin I met Trillipoke Randomly some years ago Like at a little open mic thing I just went to go pull up on Keati Shout to Keati and I met Trillipoke And he was doing this song And it was hard, I was just like I heard the Charlie boy They didn't want to get on it too I just talked to them about it I want to hear that They don't sign as much as you would think We had that conversation When they get together it don't sound the same But you can tell the info I like it, I like that Trillipoke took that rap But that's what I'm talking about People don't know That's what's going on You're going to win from that in Texas Even from Dallas The Dallas shit, Texas shit You're going to win from that Way more than you think Everybody think the opposite Got a little question You have to put both of them on the same record Put a 6-3 and they're on the same record So yeah It's crazy you say that When I first came out We walked there walk People always used to ask me Who was on the second verse Because I rapped on the second verse And the whole song is like a me monotone While I'm kind of like singing And I didn't have an identity yet People didn't know me then You just hear this song That's popping in the clubs And you hear it all one way And then on the second verse You hear somebody rapping And people used to always say that As I started making this A lot of the music I actually can make The row in 6-3 on the same song Because the difference Between them is really You feel me like 6-3 The 6-3 shit is just more It's just more savage The row is more like If the row had a girl And 6-3 had a girl They'll be completely different with them When I drop the music When the albums come out You don't know the difference That's the only way I can really explain it Because when you hear this album And then play this album Okay now I really know the difference It's kind of like a enigma Which is cool too because people ask me All the time who is 6-3 That's why it's on my Instagram Because the music is going to explain You feel me and that's what I'm waiting for By the end of this summer Everybody will know Everybody will know The difference Yeah yeah yeah Check it man I just say man You keep doing your thing Hey that unique fashion AKA boss talk 101 You at the house man And that's why I had to get you through here Because I know man like I said There's certain people in the city I've been shooting that tum tum Big tub, you know what I mean There's certain people I want to get on this platform Because it built the Yeah I get time to come through We actually working on a project You know what I'm saying I'm mad because I ain't I had to go back to LA And man how many really been able to just like rock Like how we was You know what I'm saying now that it's on my mind Now that I got this album almost done I can really focus on the project Man tum tum working on so Yeah man tum uh I like tum because he back working He back getting to it Yeah actually I do I actually got a uh So man I kind of don't want to put Could we working on something right now And I want to introduce her with the music But it's a It's an artist in LA And it's an artist that's from Dallas That's in Cali right now That's they both females that I'm working with And uh I'm just trying to get They whole little sound right And I'm gonna introduce them Yeah yeah yeah I'll hear y'all I definitely work with Megan Yeah yeah People always tell my Megan Stallion You know what I'm saying like But now I like Megan the Stallion Because even when you really think about it She really the first female Texas rapper Like I can't really think of nobody I might be missing somebody I'm talking about to the Especially to the masses But even to the state of Texas I can't think of a female rapper That you can identify with Dallas or Houston And I know it You about right Let me think you know me One night I was thinking Megan the Stallion is actually the first female rapper From Texas Of course you know we had females that Been rapping don't get me wrong But she's the first one to come out As a female rapper Yeah so that's crazy The fact that we the head out of Texas history And it ain't never been a female Erica ain't no rapper Yeah Erica and Beyoncé You know those singers So like she the first rapper from Texas So when I thought about that I was like damn she really the main history Shout out to Megan the Stallion that rapping girl Out of Texas She thinks she the girl Pimp C too You can tell You can hear her in Megan the Stallion that she's from Texas That's what I like no matter how mainstream She go you can tell You can identify as a Texas female rapper Just the whole cadence I love the fact that These internet waves And made it where The platform made it where you can do Whatever so monetizing Capitalizing on all that how you doing In that stretch That's the best thing You know what I'm talking about The pandemic was good Yeah it was You know my streaming and all that That's when I really learned about the streaming You know I'm cool When the shows cut off the streaming went up You know what I'm saying I learned really I learned more about the digital world in the last year Than I knew way prior to that Because of the pandemic You know you had no choice The streaming The streaming wave is cool You still gotta make quality music though You still come down to the product Come down to the music at the end of the day Yeah well hey man I'm gonna tell you something man I just appreciate you for coming on the show man Boss talk 101 No one approved That's a whole other level of being approved Man you hear it now man Shout out to the ones that be coming through here Man blessing the whole platform Like the road music man Hey man it's been another great segment Man a boss talk 101 Uh huh