 Big shit, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. Name another podcast like this, hook up, bring it to the table, boss talk, who your girlfriend fave, boss talk, we gon' do it how you want, boss talk, yeah. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Miss Jamaica. Walk on, my dad. Man, man, you talking about being blessed, man. See, sometimes you don't know what's gonna happen, man, and God just give it to you. I don't even know, but I pray a lot, though. Man, I've been looking for this guy, man, because really, hey, I'm watching my cameras and taking pointers today. This has been a class in session for me today, man. Check it, man, Sean Cotton's in the building, man. What up, man? How you doing, man? It's a pleasure. Man, I've been worried about if you was even, we was doing a good job. Yeah, I've seen a few episodes, love it. I'm a fan, man, of yours, bro. I appreciate it, I'm a fan, too. Man, I'm telling you, ever since I brought what's his name, Jeff Pullum, I was like, man, I was fascinated that he had interviewed you. I was like, man, how the heck you end up interviewing him? Then he gave me D-number, and then I was like, man, I don't know how I'm gonna get to Sean, man. And I know I'm gonna run up on you one day, though, because I'm hustling, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. So I don't really go nowhere. You notice I've been in the city, been here, all these, you never hear from me. I see all them pictures, though. Yeah, yeah, I can run up on you, man. I promise you I can run up on you, but I just do it to where it's organic, man. Yeah, this was definitely organic. Man, I didn't know I was coming here today. Really? Yeah. That's crazy. So how far in advance do you get a notice? What you mean? That you were gonna come here? This morning. Wow. Yeah. Wow, I knew, because he called me and asked me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, he told me, he gave me the address, but... You didn't know what it was? I didn't know what it was. But then, as soon as I seen outside, I was like, oh, this is where it go down at. Oh, man. What you think about it, man? We doing all right? Love it. Because their opinion matters to me. Man, nah, I've been to a lot of places. This is cool. I feel safe. Thank you so much, man. Y'all know, we try to keep it that way. It's been that way here, and to certain people, we shine off. I heard you on, first of all, you from Philadelphia. Yeah. Man, you're supposed to be a boxer. Yeah. But I was raised in Arlington. Really? Yeah, I didn't live in Philly for too long, but that's where all my family is. So you go back, you frequent? All the time. I love it up there. I don't have, outside of my immediate family, I don't have no cousins or nothing like that. So I'll go to Philly to see my family. You have an interview up there? All the time. Okay. Do you like that Philly cheese steak? What? That place we went over there. I don't even remember that name. We just looked up where Kevin Harden nods. You know, we do it. You probably go to somewhere like Super Mainstream. It's right down there on the Strip. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Man, we just so touristy when we go places. I drove through there. I flew in the DC and I drove all the way to New York because I like to, I'm nosy as hell. Same, same as me. Like we were talking before. I love just the culture. Yeah, yeah. The accents and the foods and everything. Yeah, yeah. Sports teams and just everything. Man, so go ahead babe. So take us back to before you started this. I know you used to work at Best Buy, but even before that, where did you used to work before that? When I graduated high school, my dad was the manager of GameStop Warehouse. He was a supervisor. Okay. And he would hire everybody from our school. And a lot of them got fired because they were still the video games outside of the GameStop Warehouse. It was easy to sneak them out, but they'll catch you eventually. And they would wait for you to steal a whole bunch of games so they could file a case. Wow. Because it's hard to file a case on somebody with one, two Xbox, PS2, threes at the time. So he hired me for the first shift because he worked third shift, so we couldn't work the same shift. He's Sean Cotton too. Wow. So you're a junior. Well, not really, because we don't have the same middle name. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I guess I'm not a damn junior either. I thought I was the same middle name. I don't have no same middle name. Yeah, you don't have. Did your daddy have a middle name? He didn't have no damn middle name. I was about to say you are a junior because both of y'all didn't have no middle name. I don't have no middle name. So maybe that means... So you are a junior. So I'm a junior because he didn't have no middle name? Yeah. How does that work? I don't know. Sometimes I would be considered a junior, but for the most part I'm not a junior. Not a junior. Yeah. You are a junior. Hush. No, I'm cool with being a junior. Man, my dad this season, man, was a hell of a man. Man. Sorry about that. He put me... Mom and dad, but at the end of the day, I'm still here. That's what it's all about, man. So what are you... What prompted you to get into this business? Oh, yeah. I was about to go there too. Oh, well, sure. After the game stopped because they didn't really like my dad there, they fired him. And then they start treating me like shit. So if you see my interview with Charleston White, that shit's true because they fired me from the game stop as well because they didn't like my dad. So, boom, I had went to the cell phone job and then they had let people go. So they let me go and then, boom. That's when 2010 summer, I was at Home Depot and then it was too hot because I was pushing carts. And then so I quit. And how old were you at this time? I was 19, 20. Okay. And then... I'm still living at home with mom and dad? Definitely. And that's one thing I preach. I feel like kids who are fresh out of high school don't rush out the house. Because that's a black culture. Since I've been here, I hear a lot of parents that say, oh, as soon as they're 18, they're out of that house, I don't... But see, when you see Mexicans, it's 20 in the crib. They stack their money up and then they all start five, six different businesses out of that one family because when you're 17, 18, you're still a kid. You don't know yourself. I didn't find myself until I was 23, 24. I didn't know my purpose. Back to that though, when you talk about Hispanics, the part that I don't agree with because what I see with a lot of Hispanic culture, you can get married. You'll get married. The men always end up going to live with the wife's parents. And I'm like, why is that? So why not the woman live with the man's parents? And they'll stay there for a long time. But what they're doing is when they stay with each other, they're all putting their money in to a business and it forms ownership. And you do that 100 times. That's a community. But imagine living with your in-laws. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, with black people, we send our kids out. You know what I'm saying? So my dad was that type of person. He was like, you know, you're getting older. Because at that time, I was living a Home Depot best by time. I was living with my mom and dad. And they were going through it. My mom is the hustler type. She's the one that's like, yo, you can stay here, just pay $50 a week and I trust you. I believe you. My dad, he's by the book. Yo, go to college, military, distance net. So by the grace of God, they divorced. And my mom, By the grace of God. Yeah. Because my mom, then she needed my help. She was like, you know, if you could pay an extra 50, you could stay here. Cool. I'll pick up my little sister after school. You don't got to get off early. So I became a man of the house then. So if they didn't get divorced, I think my dad would have kicked me out. And it wouldn't have been a say cheese. So that's why I'm saying it was, it was a blessing in disguise. And my dad just texts me. It's crazy how it worked. How many siblings? How many siblings you had? I only got two sisters. Oh, two sisters. So you're the only boy? Yeah, but I grew up with my mom and dad. Like we lived together 23 years. Wow. So I didn't have to run to the streets to look for love. Because the love was in the crib. That's good. You know, when he seen me fucking with some, some niggas, that wasn't on point. He was the man. He pulled you up. Yeah. I didn't have to go into the streets to seek love. You know, so. No, I get it. It was great. So do you feel like, you feel like you, where y'all to be right now in this whole, what do you, you interview people, but do you consider you a blog? They don't consider you a blog. Yeah, I blog too. Have you on Instagram? Yeah, yeah, he does. Yeah. Yeah, you, you everywhere. I'm everywhere. And then overbooked. I hear people complaining about you. No, I'm not playing, bro. Like that's what these dudes tell me. I'm not in the rap game. You know, people are mad because, really like we're booked up. Yeah. Like niggas can't ever say that I owe them money or anything. It's just the fact that I can't work with them when they want me to work with them. But you being honest. I'm just being honest. Yeah. I mean, it's a lot of people that I would hear that are, you know, doing funny business. I'm just hard to get in contact with. And I feel like that helped my brand get to where it's at. Exactly. Yeah. Because if somebody sees you all the time, they're not going to appreciate you. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So how'd you end up, see you end up on the gatekeeper list. I don't want to, I don't even know why. What the hell was that, man? I don't know. Big D, that's my homie, but I don't even like that type of like. Yeah. I mean like, what is that? I don't know. Jay Prince, he's in the league of his own. Right, exactly. When I seen it, I say, man, but I understood it though from the interview we did with Big D. Yeah. I know already how he's becoming though. But Big D, he's super, I mean, Jay Prince is, he's an OG. Yeah, but Big D got an opinion and he's strong about it when you talk to him. He's going to tell you what he feels. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I just, I think he actually brought that up on this show because he was like, man, I think Sean just don't get to pray, you know, it's a new day and that's how he feels. So you really, that's his opinion, man. And how can you? And he puts you in the same category with Jay Prince. Jay Prince is in the league of his own. Right. I say that. I'm just turning 30, like. Bro, I say that too, but I understand why he coming from far as on the internet side of it and what he's saying from his perspective. For sure. I get why he's saying that. But to put me above somebody who's been in the game for 40 years is kind of like disrespectful. Like, yeah, but I don't think he meant it that way. I think for the simple fact, I don't take it that way because I know who Jay Prince is. Jay Prince is a pillar. Jay Prince was with the ghetto boys. He paved the way for a fifth ward boys. I'm that guy. So I'm from that era. So I can tell you he did what you, you had a lot of work to do when it comes to that part. But he's talking about from his perspective on the blogging side and kind of the things that you've accomplished in your time. And you got to shout out to Big D Mogul too. You know what I'm saying? And Jay Prince, man, respect, man. That book, man, it's a beast. No, for sure. For sure. But I love what's going on, man, for the way you moving, man. And I've seen you on Vlad, too. Yep. I've seen you on Vlad. And you said somebody, you took a little money. He act like he ain't never took no money. I don't know if I believe that. You know what I'm talking about? I don't know. That 30,000 or 50,000 or 100,000, and it's hard to turn down, bro. Yeah, he said he never took no money. Hey, you can say what you want to say. Do you believe him? I don't know. I've definitely took money for interviews. I've definitely paid to interview people before. So I don't know. You never know people. I just say, don't believe everything you read. Don't believe everything. Of course. And even with music, you know, we've spoken that many times that these younger kids are not to believe everything that these rappers be, you know, rapping about because they take it like that's their life. Exactly. Yeah. On that part. Right. And I'm like, that's not real. Yeah. But I'm talking about Vlad. Vlad is a vlogger. I know who Vlad is. Yeah, I know it. But at the end of the day, I mean, he human too. Yeah. We all human, bro. You know what I'm saying? We all human, man. So I know when you started out. You started out by doing rappers. Yeah. I used to do like freestyles. Freestyles. Like on the street. Yeah. Before you did the interviews. Rapping, rap, rap used to matter. But over time, rap became more melodic, like singing. So people didn't care if you could rap good. They still don't. So I went from doing freestyles. I'm like, I used to pull up to Oak Cliff and Pleasant Grove. I know. Yeah. Like all the Chicago and used to do freestyles, but it just became like obsolete. Like nobody really checks on freestyles no more. They want to hear your story. Yeah. They want to hear your war. They want to see the war wounds and they want to see if it's really real. So was it someone who suggested that to you? Why you came up with it? Or is just an idea? No. I did a few viral interviews and I was like, wow, okay. This shit could really go like this girl. She got a viral fight that happened in the locker room. Her name was Jade. Was that the first viral? That was the first one. Okay. In Rest in Peace mode three. That was his baby mom at the time. Oh, okay. Yeah. But if you go back and look, her name is Jade. She got in a viral fighting on a world star in the locker room. And I interviewed her. And it did like two million views in a day. Wow. On a world star. And I said, I said, I'm going to start mixing that with the freestyles. And then over time, the freestyles became irrelevant. Because niggas don't care about bars. They just want to hear something that sound good. They don't care if you can rap. If you can sing and harmonize, people will rock with that. Well, how do you feel about all the people that's popping them? Because you paid away for a lot of this just going on. Yeah. How do you feel about that? Do you like what you're seeing? Or you think, as far as the interviews, the vlog, because I really, I look at paying homage. You know, I'd be like, okay, you, how do you feel about it? How do you think it's going from an over perspective? I love it. Of OG. My OG. Yeah. You OG to me now. Yeah. Now I see, I love the blog stuff. I see it's paying a lot of bills for people. Okay. I'm paying all damn bills for us. Not yet. It'll get there. I ain't tripping though. We good over here. That's why I don't charge. Vlad ain't the only nigga that don't charge for videos. You know what I'm talking about? I have never charged anyone that only been about four months. You know what I'm talking about? I stopped doing that three years ago too. I don't take money for interviews. Yeah. I don't do it. I don't pay attention to what's happening. We have a lot of people in IBM and it's going fast. So I just don't even pay no attention. But you're very specific about who you bring on to your platform. Am I correct? Yes. I wanted to just know like with Charleston White, like Charleston White was already doing this thing. But I just knew that my audience that are like kids, they will react to what he said. So I feel like I just go for people who I think can bring a reaction to my YouTube channel. And that's just that. Like you don't have to have a million views. I just feel like if I can get you to say the right thing and have a crazy title, we could build off that. Yeah. And I knew, I didn't even know Charleston White. I just hit him up. I was texting him for like two, three days. He wasn't replying. I'm like, all right, let me find his Facebook. Because I know he'd be on Facebook. Oh, he's a funny acting dude. Oh, this dude right here. Oh, I can get you a story, boy. I tell you, you can't get him when you don't want you to get him. When he feels some type of way, he's standing. Oh, yeah. That's what he do. So he finally texts me back a day later. And you know, he got a, he had an Android at the time. Yeah. Yeah. He had an Android at the time. So I'm like, damn, okay. Because, you know, with an Android, you can't tell if they read your text messages. Correct. So I'm like, I'm like, damn, does he not like me or something? So we finally got it in. And in the interview was where it was at. And then it finally took off when he went in on Gillian, Gilly the Kid over the little Pop Hunters situation. Yeah. I remember that. I remember that in the rest of his history, but Charleston White, I just, I love what he stands for. So would that be, is that your, I ain't going to ask you that, but it's, I want to know is that, is who, you, you wanted that same question. Go ahead. Yeah. Who do you, who would you say is your most what impactful or the one you, you cherish the most. Let's do it different. Which interview is your most impactful, highest views. And then also which interview is your favorite? It's easy for me. I can, I can reach out to a lot of rappers right now. I don't get a million views. Correct. I can text soldier boy right now. I'm like, yo, let's do it. But Charleston White, because he's talking about something. And it may be the truth. It may be the ugly truth, but it's real. Exactly. And even some things he's saying, I'd be like, damn, why you say that? Or some things I don't agree with. But I know five, 10 years from now is going to mean something. I don't know me. Who else? Are we the only ones around here to interview Charleston? I think we are the only ones. Yeah. Yeah. Both of us, yeah. At least I got that income. I can't do nothing else. I done did that for sure. No, no, no. Dallas Global and yeah, Dallas Global for sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's what's up, man. So I mean, do you, is it anybody else that you've seen come up quick? Because you love rap too. You know how to deal with picking artists and stuff like that. Have anybody impressed you with the way they scaled after you had interviewed them? Roddy Rich. I didn't know he was going to blow it. Roddy Rich. I did Roddy Rich in Compton. Really? I went. And he went. Wow. I did Roddy Rich interview. I did a lot of people's interview. I got Rod Wave's deal. Really? And then he went on the internet and said, fuck me. Are you serious? Yeah. Man, people, see the nerve of these people, man. He don't owe me nothing. Yeah, I did. Because I mean, now I have so many different, I open so many different doors for people. It's going to pay out later and it ain't no beef with him. I wish him the most success and hopefully we'll chop it up soon. I noticed that you have a lot of links with a lot of big labels. How did you create that? Yeah. Because just like spot them, got them. I don't know if y'all know the beat box. Yeah, yeah. That's my artist too. I saw him when he had 3,000 followers. So like that, just me keeping building these artists and finding them from nothing and making them something like Darrow, the artist I got now, he's fresh out of jail. I want to change his life. How many artists do you have? Like 18, but I don't own 100% of all of them in partnership with some people. Let me say something. I look up to you now because I'm scared of these rappers now. Like for us, I don't trust, man, I got trust issues. Yeah. Everybody be like, man, eat over the years. Yeah. And I just never, I thought the game wasn't, like, I guess because I already were flipping. I ain't need it. It's like this don't look, for me, it seems like it's a lot of disloyalty. It's a lot of disloyalty, but I don't get into it to, I know they're going to, I know they're going to cross me sooner or later. That's the way you would have to look at it. I know they're going to cross me sooner or later, but I know we're not friends. This is business. Wow. I know we're not going to eat together when I'm cooking. So you know there's going to be a disconnect at some point. I know it's like that because you don't really know nobody until they get money. You're right. Because let me tell you something. Everybody talk, they talk about Birdman a lot. But when you look at Jay-Z, when you look at Rick Ross with Mick Mills right now, all of these people evolve and grow apart. I don't know why they give him such a bad rap when everybody does the same thing, even Puff Daddy. Everybody, they still own certain people, masters. They ain't let them go in over 20 years and 30, you know. So I don't, I don't get the, you said something when you said that because you got to look at it that way. I never thought of it that way, but I don't know. I'm still nervous about it. Yeah. I mean. But do you have paperwork? You have the paperwork already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make sure all that's straight. I didn't have the paperwork. I didn't know the game. That was Howard. Yeah. That was years ago. That was like three years, four years ago. So I downplayed myself on that. But I learned after that. Was he your first artist? No. I had a Glock nine. He saw him. Glock nine. He saw a $2.5 million deal with a Republic. I didn't get a, I didn't get a penny. Wow. But see what I'm saying? But I would go crazy right there. But you got to say, I'm from the streets, man. You don't do that. But we didn't have paperwork. And then on top of that. I can't do it, bro. But on top of that, that's still on my, on my resume. Exactly. That's what I was thinking. These people, these people. These people see that. Rod Wave can't tell you, I didn't do it. And Glock nine can't tell you, we didn't sign up with 1,900 followers and fund his first five music videos and give him money. And they can't deny that. So this is on my resume, whether it's on paper or not, it's stamped. Okay. No questions. With all those five videos that you funded and everything, did you actually make money back from all of that? I didn't make no money from that. See what I'm saying? This is the part I got to do. But it's all good because we make money off of new artists. This is on our rap sheet. They know that. So you were just building your resume? Yeah. Just building my resume. Wow. That's crazy, man. I'm still nervous about it, bro. Yeah. Like, I, like, I. Yeah, it's a fucked up game. I know it. That's why everybody want to rap now. And I just look at them like, nah, you could do something else, bro. Yeah. You don't have to, this is a dark, dark game. Yeah. You don't got to do this to be. Smoking mirrors. You could own a car wash and still be that nigga. And every girl's going to want to do something. Correct. You don't want to want you because you own something. You don't have to be a rapper. You don't have to have jewelry and do all that. I just. To be that guy. When I looked at, looked up, looked you up and I, um, and you're what, 30? Yeah. And I'm like, you're a good business, man. Yeah. When I look at, you know, real estate, talking about. I got the weed farm. I was about to say that. I've seen that. I mean, you dealing with the artists and everything like that. What part of, what stage of your life did that kick in? How did that kick in? He had to invest some of that damn money. No, like. I didn't get money for it. For me. Because I ain't even got money. Not because some people get money and blow it. Somebody. The boy got invested somewhere. I mean, was it, was it an influence somewhere? Somebody said something to you? What really made me start like becoming a real businessman was seeing people fall off. Yeah. I see somebody had $400,000 and then a year or two later, it's gone. Yeah. They, they name being mentioned in songs. They can laugh that. Yeah. So just the fear of falling off in the, you know, say cheese, it's not going to be hot forever. So I need to prepare myself to when it does fall off. It's going to be another young nigga that come with something better. Exactly. Anybody can be the new say cheese. So I'm preparing myself to when I fall off. But do you realize the generation that we're in right now, I think everybody, no matter what kind of career you have, have to be a businessman somehow because even a basketball player, a rapper, they have to be more, because when we have young rappers come on, we always try to tell them, you have to know every aspect of your craft. Not just, I want to rap and that's it. Okay. Do you know what your manager does? Do you know how to do what your manager does? Do you even need a manager? That's the first step. You definitely need a manager. No, I'm talking about the ones who's first starting out. Oh, no. And they don't have nothing to manage. No. And they come to you and say, hey, man, you want to manage me. And you like, manage what? Yeah. Them niggas looking for a sugar daddy. For real. That's exactly. That's the first step for me. When I look, I say, do you, how many followers you got? Yeah. Well, I got no followers. Well, how many videos have you ever done? They're just looking for an investor. That's exactly what they're. So you have to correct them and say, you need a business partner or somebody, man. So I had to learn that. That was, that took me a while to understand that whole thing. Like everybody kept coming and they see we doing our thing and they want to go too. You know, I'm being real. Yep. So what do you, so how is it? Sean Cotton, man. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sean Cotton is in the building, man. Boss talk 101. Tell me about MasterCode. MasterCode in Atlanta. In Atlanta. No, I was booked at that event to talk to kids. Okay. You didn't make it? I made it. Okay. I flew my dad out too. Oh, yeah? Yeah, me and my dad went. So how was it? It was great. Just talking to kids. Just dealing with the kids. Don't that feel good? It feels great, man. That's my thing. Like, you know, besides the money is just, just giving these kids the opportunity to do something. I think that's why we link with y'all in the way we do because we all kind of do the same thing. And it kind of just kind of, it fits. You got to give back. When God has blessed you so much with so many things, you have to give back because a lot of this younger generation is lost. Very lost. Yeah. And it's because of social media. All they follow is rappers. So like I told you earlier, they want something real quick. And if not, they'll rob, kill or do anything to get it. I got to speak on the big elephant in the room for me. Mo3. Smart guy. Yeah, yeah. Mo3, yelling, all the stuff that happened with Trap Boy and all that. Every time I would hear about that, I would hear Sean Cotton is the one that was in the middle of that. Um, no, it was because I was the, I came up with all three of them. Okay. So you got to understand. Yeah. And I remember that. You the only one that interviewed them. Yeah. That I really could think of. So I would interview somebody and then they'd be like, no, that's not true. Let me get an interview. Let me tell my piece. And that's how I came, really came about. Okay. But I tried to sit them down a lot of times. Call Trap Boy Freddie right now. And I tried to like, yo, let's like, let's do this shit for the city. Let's do a song together. And one day one of them will be like, let's do it. And then the next day he would be like, no, I don't want to do it. So they can never see each other out of eye. Wow. I, a lot of times called Trap Boy yellow right now. You tried to, you tried to mend the guy. I tried to do it all. And J Prince went to Mo3 house. Yeah. I heard about that. Yeah. So that's true. Mo3 called me the next day was like, man, I ain't know what dude came by himself. Yeah. Yeah. I heard about that. He told me, he called me. He was like, man, J Prince came to my crib by himself. Super OG. He ain't come with a lot of guys. He said, I had a lot of my guys with me. I didn't know what was going on. And so did he feel like, okay, I want to turn it down or it's turned up forever. I can't forget what he told me word for word, but it was just kind of like, it was, it was too late, you know. It was too late. Man, I'm telling you, you know, I even did an interview with Mo3. Like, yo, what can be done? Can we do a charity event? A boxing match? Anything. Yeah. And it didn't happen. Yeah. And I called Trap Boy about that a few times. Yeah. Yeah. So how do we bring the city back together? That's been my big thing. I ask everybody that come on this platform, how can we fix, and it's always going to be violence. Yeah. It was violence before that happened. It was violence before their beef. It was violence before... Before their beef. Before their beef. Yeah. It was more about a, like somebody got jumped at a club. Yeah. And that's really what sparked it. But it was beef before that. It was like a real, you know, beef. So I just think Mo3 will mention my name in a few records. And people knew, thought I knew more than what I knew. Yeah. It will make you look a certain way. It will make me look like me and Mo3 or like he's telling me everything and me and him like we, you know, Batman and Robin, but it was never like that. Like when I would talk to Mo3, most of the times it was about music. Yeah. Like the last time we spoke, it was weird though. You know, the last time we spoke, it was really weird because he got his teeth done and I was like, why'd you go away to Columbia? Dr. Rose, he's from Dallas. Like, and he was like, man, no, I'm done with Dallas. Wow. That was the first time I ever heard him say that. Yeah, that was, and this is an exclusive I'm getting you. Wow. Yeah, that was the first time I heard him that was like really anti-Dallas because he's usually Dallas. Dallas. I'm going to Big T. I'm getting my jewelry from this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this time, with this last time I spoke to him, I was in Detroit and I called him and I was like, why are you, why'd you go to Columbia? He was like, man, I'm moving, man. I'm about to move to San Francisco. Really? And yeah. You think that was cause Boosie and him have been riding and he been telling him? I don't. Because I've seen him on a few interviews right before all of this. Yeah. I don't really know, man, but that was the last time I talked to him and something was really off. He probably felt like he needed to leave the center. Yeah. He knew something I didn't know. He wouldn't tell me. Because like I said, we never got too deep into that. Too deep into it. Yeah, we never did. Well, I mean, like I said, my thing is, man, y'all are all around the same age. You may be a couple of years older than them or a year older than them. So it makes sense, right? Yeah. From the outside looking in, I always say that from the outside looking in, it makes sense that you would have been in that era because you've done a lot for music in Dallas, man. Yep. You really know, like for me, when I seen I was proud of Dallas, even though you what, you know, you basically say you're from Philly. Man, I'm from the... Yeah, we made this to Dallas state. How old were you when you moved here? Man, I was like, because we moved to Oklahoma. My mom and dad was in the military. What part of Oklahoma? Let me shout it out. A lot in Oklahoma, man. Yeah, a lot in Oklahoma. Shout out to B.C. He was on the other night. How old were you back to Dallas? I was like seven. Okay. Yeah. Still a kid. Yeah, I'm still a kid, yeah. Yeah, that's what I say. Well, like if you Google my name... Yeah, I'm from Dallas. You ever had the... Yeah, I tried it one time. And it's funny, because I was in Philly with it. I had like the duck tail, and I went to Philly with it. Yeah, yeah. They like, what the hell is that? They like, what the hell is that? They like, nigga, I'm coming with it. Nigga, I'm from Dallas right now. So what would you say is the most controversial interview you've done to date? Um, G-Money. Why was it controversial? Right after I interviewed him a month later, he got killed. Wow. In Baton Rouge. And a lot of people thought it was because of that interview, but he was doing this record before my interview. So I just feel like it's all about time. And you know, the fans say everything. They think anything, and they'll say anything. Do you ever reply to any of that that you hear something that's so controversial? Yeah, that should hurt, because in a lot of my interviews, I'll ask about the beef, but my interviews are way more than the beef. Like, we talk about current events, music. Yeah. You know, I dig into the person. You know, do you do drugs? Have you ever had a nine on five? But the fans love drama. Yeah. They feed off of it. But I noticed with the interviews, you do ask a lot of questions, but I noticed you never, ever give your point of view hardly. Never. Never. I just get their point of view, how they feel. I don't instigate it. I don't hype them up. Like when my interview with Mode 3 of our Trap Boy, he wanted to sit in, well, you can watch it. This had almost a million views. Right. He wanted to sit down with Trap Boy, and you know, I wasn't amping them up and trying to make them feel untouchable. I'm like, yo, let's do it. I've done a lot of things. Well, I did a Dallas Verse Everybody record with Mode 3. Wow. And I had all the Dallas artists on it. This was 2014. But yeah. It looked like you tried to do it. Man, I try to do it. You're not a bad guy. You're not a bad guy. You're not a bad guy, man. Sean Cotton's not a bad guy, man. I try to do it a lot, but I just don't want to come off as the clown chaser. No, no, no. I don't want to. I think you don't grow too big for even a look or something. I don't want to be on the phone and be like, yeah, I just called Mode 3 and Trap Boy Freddie. Yeah, I'm trying to do this for the city. Yeah, yeah, no. I've never, all the things I've done behind the scenes was for, it was genuine. Yeah. And that's okay because that's the one thing that we always said when we started this, we said we want to use our platform to help people. Yeah. So even when artists or anybody come up, we don't just talk to artists. We do mental health. We do circus. Because the mics are very powerful. Even being a musician, people are listening to you. Why not help educate, you know, the people that are out there. Exactly. So that's what we use our platform for because I remember I spoke to a lady once and I'd never, ever know that there are people who stay in the house and never leave the house. Never. They call groceries, they call, they do not leave the house at all. Exactly. And that was shocking when I heard that. So all they do watch TV, stay on social medias, YouTube, whatever. And someone could come on your platform and help that person to step out of that house because people don't listen to somebody they know. They listen to people that they don't know. Yeah. So that's the reason why we do this because we always pray that God lead our platform to who needs to hear it. Especially if you take a picture with a pile of money or some jewelry, they're going to take your word over their parents. Let me ask you this. What do Sean Cotton, what's been the most creative thing as far as maybe one of your fans or supporters? They don't like to be called fans though. Supporters. One of your supporters came out and like, man, you did this and when you said that, that helped me. To not rush it. I feel like, like I said earlier, people rush things. You may not see any profit from your ideas after four or five years, but when that profit comes, it's going to come. Yeah. And it ain't going to stop. And that's really it, man. Stop, stop. Another quote is this really, stop believing in the internet. It's all a lie. It's a lie. I've heard that a lot. It's all a lie. But then I'll be like, man, I'm trying to be real. It's all a lie. And everybody else might be trying to be fake. Yeah. We try to be a hundred percent transparent. But it's hard because you got so many people lying. Yeah. That's true. So we sitting over here telling the truth. But you know what? But the thing is that you can't care about another person, what they say they do or whatever because you can't control nobody else but yourself. And that's what people need to realize is that control on you, control your thoughts, control what you do. Because that's the only thing you can't control. Even your kids, you can tell them what to do or want not to do. But at the same time when you turn your back, they're going to do what they want to do anyway. So you really can't control nobody else but you. But you, yeah. And lead by example and hopefully that they follow. What would the 30 year old Sean Cotton say to the guy that started off interviewing to help him to make sure he make strong movement when he's moving forward? How would you talk to that guy if you was talking to yourself? What would you say to yourself? To better where you've come to today? If I could be honest, like I wouldn't, I wouldn't change anything. You wouldn't change a thing? I think I did. I think you did it right. I'm not perfect. I got a lot of flaws. But just read more. Just learn more. Really? Yeah. Yeah, just read more. Just read more. That's not bad. I mean, that's a good thing. That's a good question. Because I ask people that a lot. That's a great question. Because what would you say to you? I ask myself that often. Like how would I how would I address me back? I wouldn't listen. I can tell you that right now. Or I'd be like, who is this cat? Damn, that's a good question. So unless you're going to answer that one anymore, but let me move on to something else. Oh, you good. Go ahead. Are there any interviews you've ever done that you have not put out? A lot. A lot. I'm not playing. Did they be calling you and be like, we're my interview yet? Yup. I do that. Why do you do it? I did Money Man's first interview. If y'all know who that is. Yeah, I definitely know who that is. I did. So why didn't you put them out? I did Raw Wave interview. What made you not put them out? They just were awkward. You didn't feel like it was... It was like their first interviews ever. So, you know, maybe they were nervous, stuttering. Yeah. It was just kind of like it didn't... Oh, oozy. I did oozy. I never put it out. See? Yeah. Even with the editing, you couldn't edit it to make it... The quality wasn't good or maybe they just were too shy. They were answering one word. You know, they weren't really explaining themselves. So yeah, it's been some big heavy hitters I haven't put out. Have you ever thought about reaching back out to them and be like, hey, let's do another interview? Oh, yeah. Me and Money Man did one last year. Me and oozy was supposed to get one in, but he's a megastar now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the Raw Wave shit was just like whatever. Wow. I mean, you can't go back and change. And then you got a lot of people that's wanting to be on say cheese. This is the biggest dream. That's what one artist told me just this weekend. He was like, all I got to do to blow up, if I can get on say cheese. Yeah. Yeah. It's up. A lot of the negative things you hear about me, you never hear that I owe somebody money or you'll never hear that. Never heard that. Or you'll never hear that my artists are in bad situations. It's just the people who want to work with me, those are the people who find negative things to say about me. But I mean, you'll hear things about the Mode 3 and Trip Boy stuff, which I understand because I interviewed them all around the same time. I had to ask that because that's the thing that everybody's going to want to know. Yeah. No, no, no. For sure I don't feel no type of way, but if you ask them three artists, the same thing you asked me and they're going to be like, no, like Sean, he really tried. Yeah. I just wasn't on the internet with it. Yeah. So, yeah. What do you feel about DMX? What's your point of views on him? Yeah, give it up. Yeah, give it up. We want to know. Damn. Like what do you As in, as in. Okay. Being on the drug, on drugs so long he went to rehab so many times and then he overdosed. Because we've met Allegedly. Allegedly. Because I've heard that it could have been the shot. Yeah. That killed him. Yeah, I heard that too. But at the same time it's a case where like the person we had interviewed yesterday, he was on drugs for a long 20-something years. He overcame it after he went to prison and after that he never went back on drugs. Yeah. And he smells it every day. He has the feeling for it every day but he had not. That's a hard question to ask him because he don't do drugs. I've never tried drugs. I know. But what are your views on him? I have an aunt that's heavy on drugs. You can go to Philly right now West Philadelphia and you can see her walking. So it's real. And she's still she's been fighting it for 20 years. So. But when you think about celebrities and how much money supposedly they should have where they should have the help to really recuperate from this disease. Yeah. But money money makes you make money makes you 10 times who you really are. So I don't know like they said he was on it when he was younger and then I don't know because I don't I've never tried drugs ever. Like I've never been high like ever. I've never smoked one time. Yeah. So I've never I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing. I smoked a little weed back in the day. But you know we know we know how Charleston White feel about it. So. OK. Top three artists of all time man. Dead or Alive. One of the things you've probably seen me do. Top three. I got to have three though. Only three. Dead or Alive. Tupac. Wayne. Quick. Kanye. Quick. Damn. We ain't never got that quick. Tupac. Wayne. Kanye. Why for which one? Why any of them? Tupac because the influence still he been gone for 20 plus years and still the influence. Remember when he was wearing the red wings hockey jersey and spitting at him people are still recreating and and is this the influence and go look at the interviews now. I mean that he did back then they still you know today they still stick. Yeah. So the influence and the passion I don't think artists have the passion that he had. You know everything everything now is for a quick book. He really wanted the world to be a better place. So. That's that. Kanye got that breath. Kanye. Yeah. Yeah. Recreation. Being himself going against the grain. Yeah. Like people thinking he's crazy and him jumping off the porch and doing what he believes. It takes a strong person to a million people a billion people calling you crazy and you overcome. Do you think he was really crazy? I think something mentally wrong. I think all the crazy people all the crazy people like the Michael Jackson's the R Kelly's Bill Cosby's some real genius. We call him crazy but the really genius it's to me. Hey I'm going to be honest I never turned my back on Kanye and I'm still a big fan and he's my number two. Yeah. His musician, Kanye music and has a creative. You know you know Pimp see my number one but he is my number two. Pim Scumentha You're having thanks. He is my number two like i love what he's done and I love the fact of how like you just said he goes against the grain He says he's wide open. And he's great musically and as a creator. I agree. Off the court and on the court. And then Wayne is just, Wayne, Wayne out of his world. Another weird one, another weird one. He picked another one that they would say was crazy with the way he was looking. Yeah, Wayne just mute like lyrically out of this world. His work ethic. I don't think people understand his work ethic. Like he was like the Floyd Mayweather rap. Like he didn't go to sleep until he did three quality songs a day. So to me, He outworked the competition. Exactly. So to me it was just like in his influence. People can say what they want to about his drug addiction and things like that, but I'm talking about purely work ethic. Wayne. Hypothetically, what do you want to see, say cheese at its highest point? I want to keep breaking artists, make more. I just want to keep changing lives. I want to do more for the youth too. I don't feel like I'm doing everything that I should be doing. Having more people, a street team of guys who, I want to keep these kids busy. And the weed farm, say cheese farms, I want to become a billionaire off that. And I just want to open more businesses. I don't want to just be stuck in this blogger, journalist world. Because people be trying to put me in a box. I want to be stuck in a box. How did you come up with the name say cheese? Say cheese, how did you come up with that? Shit, the name? Yeah, I know it's like say cheese, cheese, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm thinking. You're on camera. I don't know, it just came to me. That's what I'm saying. You're like, one day you was like, I'ma do it. It just sounded, it just, I don't fuck. That's a marketing. I didn't want to come up with a, like it's a lot of different media outlets that are too, they're not marketable like as far as like get money TV or hood block the block. You know, shit like that. I don't know. It just was a name that rolled off the tongue. And it stuck. And it stuck, like... That's what's up. So... So you like boxing? Yeah, I used to box. Well, I wasn't a boxer, but I used to train a lot. You talking about boxing? Boxing, yeah. Yeah, that's something to my cardio and just to stay busy. It's more like a hobby. I ain't out here trying to fuck nobody up. Niggas ain't fighting no more, no less. Because I saw something on TMZ that talked about Game wanting to fight at Logan Paul. Oh, for real? Yeah. You know, Street Fight, Mayweather's fighting him, but then Game put something on social media and say, you know, meet me outside. He trying to get back on on hell. We ain't earned Street Fight, Street Fight. But Game go hard and what he does, I guess. But hey, I'm not a, I'm from Texas, man. I ain't, I'm sorry Sean Cotton, but yeah, I take this series down here, man. Oh, what you say? I'm sorry. Being from Texas, I take it very serious. So when she bring up these out-of-towners, you know, for me, I felt like the South, thank you for what you've done in the South. Yeah. You know, because we needed this, you know, and I feel like we needed that light to shine on us to be honest with you. And so that's part of this platform being here as well. Having a place where people can come and be seen in a way to where they can tell their story, you know, that's important to me. Yeah, man, I appreciate it. I try to do what I can for the city and I'm gonna keep doing it. You're doing it. You know, Cash Page, that's my artist, too. You got a lot of damn artists, man. He said he had, what, 16, 17? Like 18. And they keep, how do you pick them? What do you just say? Oh, he's good. I'm gonna pick him. I'm getting better with it, but just really just work ethic and what are you doing it for? Yeah, yeah, we had to cut one. All the time. Like you gotta go, I can't do it no more. Yeah, I just can't do it. It's because of trouble and stuff like that. Yeah, and then you know. And you know, it's a dedication. If you don't work. Yeah, people just lose on focus. You know, they get 100,000 followers. They stop recording, man. Just not being themselves. I think they made it. I think they made it. You ain't make shit. I know people with, I know, man, look. Outside of Mogul media, cause I know he told me, you know, he looked up to you and he talked to you before he did his thing. Who else have you influenced in a way to where they seen you and they started their platform? I don't take credit for stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I'm asking though. He's a very humble person. I'm asking who else, who has, they could have been mentored by him. Basically he helped him to get on, to tell him show him you didn't show nobody. I don't show people how to work these damn cameras, man. Nobody. It's a lot of people who are influenced, but. You don't have to name them, but you do, you do give back in that way. Definitely. If somebody hit me up in the air. You don't be trying to hide the information. No, never. Okay, you don't seem like that kind of guy. No, never at all. You don't seem that bad at all. What do you think? You looking at him? What do you think? I am. Take a good look at it. No, that boy got a girl. He can't be out here singing with all that money. I got a damn weed for him. The man got 40 acres on a mule and he didn't get it from the right folks. Man, I love your, your entrepreneurial spirit, man. You, you really, you know, you, you remind me of myself in my younger days. Yeah. Not really, but still, it's not, we ain't gonna hold your time up, man. No, you good. Anything else you got? You got some? No, baby. I know you had a bunch of questions. She asked a good question. I come from the dome as you know. No, that's not. That's how I go. Yeah, I'd be just trying to really figure out what's going on in the city. I had had paint and everybody, oh, that's a, bam, there it is. That's my question right there. It just hit me. So you and have paint. Yeah, y'all have had some differences. We haven't had any differences. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said you didn't play his music over there. You won't play his stuff. Now, I remember he was over here last time. Something happened. I don't know the real, I asked the question and he gave it up. He was like, no, man. Cause I heard him say it on another stream. I don't know who he said it on, but I was looking at it. He said that you don't, you don't rock with him no more. You guys able to build a bun back together? Can he call you and- Yeah, we talked after that. Okay. I had paid one of his friends to rebuild my car. That's it. I got, no, I'm on it. See, I'm from the dome. Out of Fort Worth. I don't want to say his name. Okay, you don't have to say his name. I had paid one of his close friends to rebuild my car. And this is a car that I had when I didn't have anything. So it was emotional attachment. Okay. And yeah, he didn't do it. He didn't do it. He didn't do it. And it was like five grand. And because it was his friend, it brought y'all to- That's like me going to your house, stealing the pillows off your couch and then you paying, you still, you know what I'm saying? Or whatever. It's just a weird feeling. Yeah. So you felt like that kind of made things. Yeah, I couldn't- I didn't feel real not saying nothing. So I just fell back from a half pint. Okay, okay. Cause y'all, y'all both doing your thing. I ain't no lie. I fuck with half pint. It's nothing- Y'all both bad at what you do. It's nothing personal. It's just business. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Like, damn, like this is a car I had. Like in your home, you looked at me in my eyes and took my money and he didn't, he didn't, you know, I paid for a service. Wow. That's like me paying, somebody paying for a post on say cheese and me not delivering. Not doing it. Then what? But how does half pint correct it though? He can't correct it. You just told him about it and it made you feel like odd after that? I mean, he tried to correct it. He, his friend told me my car back but the car was damaged. It was, it wasn't no good. And that's the way, that's the way these car mechanics, these damn mechanics boy. Yeah. Charleston spoke on the mechanics on my platform. You know what I'm saying? He was doing it in a good way. Wait, what did he say? He was talking about it in a good way. He was just saying that, that if you can work on a car, you know, basically you can get them women but this nigga couldn't get no women cause he mess your damn car up and nigga mess, remember that dude that came on the show, I told him he messed my grandma car up? It's something about a mechanic when they can't, you know, get you running. And I could be on here, you know, bad talking, half planning. I'm not on that. No, come on, man. I don't, I don't expect that. I like what he's doing, you know? And one day we'll get past this but for now I'm still like, I'm upset about it. Man, I like it. You see, he feel a certain type of way but you say, but I like the part where he say we can get past. Yeah, we ain't out here trying to keep it coming. No, no, no, but it can be, it's just a conversation. Maybe the bridge can be built. Yeah, just like them, like, like five grand. That's a lot. I got it. I could give you stories. I got guys that got me, but it was on the clothing. And it was like, you spend money and they say, oh, I'ma come through, I'ma come by and they don't come. So it make your business bad. And they don't, it really don't make your business bad but they don't stand behind their word and make you feel some type of way. You know what I mean? So it don't make your business bad. God still keep blessing. You could buy a hundred cars like that now. Exactly. Quit playing, man. It was just the principle, you know, when somebody, when you let something slide more people think they can do, you know what I mean? Okay, so who's, let me ask this question for, I forget, you know, as far as artists in Dallas, wait a minute, Bobby Billions, didn't he say that most of you heard his music on your platform? I think so, yeah. That's what he said. Bobby Billions invested in to say, she's posting mode three. One thing about mode three, he was like really in tune with what we posted. Yeah, I didn't want to miss that. Yeah, he would find talent to artists. And one thing about mode three, if he liked you, he'll comment. Yeah, he jumped on that. Yeah, he wasn't, he wasn't doing no tripping. Mode three was a real loving person. So did you see the Bobby Billion thing happening when it first started to take off? Yeah, I seen him do the freestyle and I was like, oh, wait. And then it just became like a viral thing. People was already wanting him to release the record. And then when he passed, that's when it recirculated again. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it started from a say, she's posting. That's what I thought, that's what I see. So, yeah, mode three showed his love and he didn't know him from a can of power. No, I know, I see that. You see what's going on now. I know, I see the trap in him, cause he's never met him. So he's done a song now with Trap Boy and I don't know the ends, but I had reached out to Bobby Billion and I was like, man, I wanna get him on. I would like to talk to him. How do you feel about him doing a song with Trap? I feel like he didn't ever meet mode three. And I feel like if he's genuinely doing songs with whoever because he's just doing his art, I don't wanna say a problem with him. Am I wrong for that? I understand why people will be upset. But I would understand the other side too. It is business too. He didn't know mode three personally, but if mode three didn't reach out, it wouldn't have. So it was kind of like, but then why are you- They say he gave the song the way they gave it to him. I don't know the ends and outs, but then why do we always gotta choose sides? Why can't we just- I don't know, man. But I see both. I see both. He's trying to do good things for the city and I don't know. But then was it too soon? Did he link with him too soon? I'm gonna tell you something. I had somebody on my platform that basically was, they said something about Kobe. It was kind of like what Charleston did with the DMX. My co-host, he's not here today, but he went to jail today, I believe. So yeah, it happens, man, but we're gonna get him out of there. I'll put it- Damn, the dad came. Yeah, yeah, that's my guy, man. He wanted to meet you too. We talked about you this morning. You know, but anyway, man, the thing I can say, man, is that not through my whole interview, after talking about my boy, man, I shouldn't even brought him up. You know, I feel some type of way. Charleston, you know, I feel some type of way about that, man. I shouldn't have said it. You threw me off. But so, do you think that, say cheese is, I mean, Vlad is big, man. Them boys up in California. And how was it going on that show? Oh, I love Vlad. I studied Vlad, if you could tell. Oh, I could tell. Yeah, I studied Vlad. I stole a lot of his juice. I mean, we're not juice because he's doing his thing, but I stole his blueprint. But did you feel like when you went to see it, before, you know, when you went on it, was it the same as you thought it would be? Nah. You just like nah. Nah. I'm like nah. That's a good question. But yeah, I studied Vlad, and Vlad, take for me too. He take my, he take my guess. I know. He take my guess. I seen. I'm talking about you putting that ball on. He take my, but I love it because I want to do interviews with people. And then the next step is Vlad. It's always, like I look at life as a family tree. If I could put you in a position to grow, why not? Yeah, well, how did you feel when they said that he was a culture vulture? Nah, Vlad's been doing a lot of grinding for years. Passing off CDs. He's not one of them Jews who, you know, had a little money and tried to get in. He's, Vlad is a part of the culture. I don't agree with a lot of things he says, but who does? You can't agree with everything everybody says. And even if you like don't agree with him, I mean, you can agree to disagree. It's nothing wrong with that. And I wasn't mad when Vlad brought Charleston white up. Yeah, yeah. Cause a lot of people were like, man, you, nah, nah. Cause one thing about Charleston white, he still hit me up and check on me. Yo, you good? How you feeling? We don't talk about interviews or nothing. We just be like, yeah, you can smile, talk like, yo, you good, good. So I don't feel, I don't feel no type of way. But you know, Vlad, he watch us say cheese. Cause you see who doing that thing and he bring them on this show. And I'm like, cool. I'm like, man, I did that. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you came from nothing, bro. Thanks. So you gotta realize that's, that's not something that happens every day. Exactly. So, and for you to be business savvy enough to keep it going. Exactly. As long as you have. That's, I applaud you, brother. Right. Cause I know what it is to stay in business like that. You gotta be, you gotta be focused like Elville. Yep. What you think? Competitors and all sorts of things. Yeah, yeah. Everybody talking down and then some people who do, you think they got your best interest. You don't know if they really, really real with what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. And you gotta be smart. You gotta believe in God too. I don't care what you say. You gotta be somewhere in there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Being real, man. No effects. Cause you can't do this stuff and stay sane. I got a question. How do you feel about Jackie Chan? Oh. And. Oh. And him, given his money away to charity instead of giving it to his son. It's kind of messed up. It's really messed up like, like damn you were 350 million and your son won't get none of that when you pass. And he has a daughter too. He has a daughter, but I really think he was speaking on his son because his son's been in a lot of legal issues with drugs. Exactly. So, I mean, how many chances is too many chances, you know? Because that was my point of view. And, you know, he disagreed with me because first when he came up, I was like, I wouldn't give it to him because he keeps messing it over, spending it. Like, why are you gonna give it to somebody else who? It becomes a crutch. Like, you keep giving people money. That's not helping them. No, but I still say, you know, at the end of the day, if he don't get, what about if he put it in a trust and he makes sure it gets to the next generation and the next generation? You can do things to get around that. But there's no evidence from his past actions that he's gonna do that. No, the trust, it can't set up that way in advance. Oh, you're talking about a trust fund. He's talking about a trust fund. Yes, yes. Okay, okay, okay. I thought you were talking about a trust fund. No, I'm not him. We can't trust that dude. Okay, okay. No, but we can put something in place It can carry on to the generations to come. Don't be ignorant, man. You don't even know if it's time to go out and have kids. I think Jackie Chan was really trolling though. At this late age, this dude is more popular than anybody. And he's 38, he's older. Oh, do you think he was trolling? I think he was trolling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This trolling thing is something different for me, too. I'm trying to get used to it. Well, hey, man, we love you. Man, I love you too, man. I'm gonna be honest with you, man. If it's so, I gotta ask him, I gotta let him know something. I give out awards. I gave Charleston one, and I didn't know you was gonna be here today else I'd have had you on there because I respect you. When I get it, I wanna be able to give it to you. I'm being honest with you. I'll come back and get it for the round two. Yeah, I just wanna, I just wanna give it to you because I like to give roses. I'm the only one I think to do that. I don't know if I'm... Give roses while you're done. Yeah, I give a plaque, you know, to the one too. That's the same, thank you for the one you've done. Yeah, man, you don't have to be here. You don't have to do the stuff that you're doing. To be consistent as long as you have, I would love to do that. Yeah, that's hard, man. I appreciate it. And I definitely been watching you and... I've done it with Mike Jones. Nobody gave him marketing genius. He's marketing that number? I called on Mike Jones because of this guy right here too. I was like, I gotta get Mike Jones. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Say, gee, you got Mike Jones. Oh, yeah, yeah, Mike Jones, I... Mike Jones is a good dude. It isn't. He misunderstood. I like him, though. I like him, man. I like him a lot because of the things that he showed me, a stand-up dude, man. Every time I see him, he been back twice. And I did that too. He lives in Dallas, right? No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just did a lot of people. A lot of people that really, like George, T-Town, I felt like doing the DSR thing, I had to give him... I gotta give you a plaque, bro. For sure, man, I appreciate it. And then it's gonna come... And people are like, just surprise. Hell, I can't surprise. I gotta get him back to tell him I wanna bless him. Yeah, because on my way here, I'm like, damn, Tronston White, he got me in Pleasant Grove. No, man, we be chilling. He know how it is over here. Over here and get crazy, don't you? No, no, no, not here. No, no, no. Well, he's been around here all the time, so... It's bar spring. Yes, it's bar spring. But it's still on the customer... We get those customers. They come here. They've been here 15 years, so of course they come over here. But at the end of the day, I mean, it's kinda how you move. It's safe. It's safe. We move different, man. We love God, but we move different. We've been here. I've seen kids grow up. These families are... So you're from Dallas? No, I'm from East Texas. Shout out to East Texas, man. Stop playing, man. You went to Tallah, Texas? Nah, go on down in the woods, man. I'm down by the Caddo Lake, man. Stop playing. I go looking for alligators and stuff like that. But I've been up here for 30-some years, man. Stop. You from Dallas, too? What? Oh. I'm from Jamaica, man. Oh, okay. Yeah, see over there? Yeah, I had to go to Jamaica and get an electric. No, I knew you were gonna come over. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. But my next question, my last question... This is the last question. You good, you good. My last question is about what are your views on Kevin Samuels? Because... Oh, here we go. To be honest, I haven't watched the video. I just see Charleston White going in on them all the time. I watched him cause Charleston White was going in on him. She had an issue with him, but I don't... Not because everybody been talking about him, so I looked him up and I'm not lying. Some things he talk about women is accurate, but then because he... So... The way he does it? The way how he does it. Is a promise. Yes, and then he... Then he's metro sectioned. No, he says it about women, total women. You can't just categorize every woman under the same umbrella. Well, all of them are not the same. Yeah. You need to check them out. I don't know. I've been watching the I Agree with Charleston White. Really? Cause if you don't got a woman, then you trying to tell women about women. Yeah, yeah. Like I said, he's definitely getting the following there. I can tell you that much. We would love to... I would love to get him on this show. Who? Kevin Samuels. Oh, okay, yeah. So he's not new? I thought he been doing what he's doing. It just start to buzz. He was dealing with me and two at first, they say. Allegedly, but I don't see none of them videos. Like messing around with them? No, no, no. Like interviewing them in town? He think he's a counselor, I think. Like a counselor. I think he thinks he's a counselor. And that's why when I asked, I asked him as like, so why did he switch from interviewing men to women? And he was like, oh, cause he probably saw that's where the problem lies. Is it men? Men. But women cling on more to advice like that. They love it. They love that. But you can tell because some of the interviews I'll be watching, he'll be talking to a woman and you can see that they're not really telling them the total truth. They'd like... Women, y'all like to hear what sounds good. You know what I'm saying? Taking from the Mac Daddy himself. He's here. He don't have no wife. No. He drives nice cars. He live in big homes. I want the truth. Yeah, brother. I want the truth. Shout out to say cheese for his observation. You know, the way he sees things, you know. I get it. Young man. Because I love constructive criticism. So you don't always have to come in this, you know, try to make somebody feel good. Shout out, man. Thanks for that advice. It's all good. She gonna kill me here in a minute, you know. I'm gonna end this interview now. Okay, go ahead. Say, man, thank you so much. Y'all love it. Hey, that round two for real is gonna happen. Y'all for sure. Let's do it. I'll let you know when I'm ready to go. Okay. And then you, plus you're gonna do some craze and go viral. Oh yeah, you know. You know something. And then I'm gonna be like, I gotta get this guy back over here. You know what I'm saying? But thank you. We love you, man. Say, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we are. Appreciate it.