 of course. Let me turn this on. Hello. Hello. Peter, good to see you and good to hear you. You're larger than life. We had an 11 o'clock. Thank you so kindly. And thank you all for allowing me to go through this meeting. The next one would not be like this. Thank you so much. I'm going to call in Pam. Pam, you there? Yes, sir. I'm here. All right. I'd like you to lead us in that conversation relative to rate booting and instant booting mechanism. Talk to us a little bit about that if you would. Yes, sir. Absolutely. And you should have some information in your packet. And what this is all about is talking about some options for doing municipal elections. One of the only municipality in Richardson County that currently majority versus so I wanted to talk about that concept and then also talked about talk about the rank choice voting, which is something that has been proposed in legislation last year. Councilman Duvall was approached by the South Carolina Small Business Chamber when he was here and the South Carolina Municipal Association to support a bill H.4022 that was proposed last year. From my understanding, this is also supported by Better Ballot of South Carolina as well. And so we just wanted to, while we weren't in an election cycle, to talk about the possibility of changing the way we do our elections. And these are two options that are available and that are out there. Currently what his intent, of course, was to rule from a 50 plus one majority vote. Is that great? So currently, so we are under a majority vote. So, you know, we have to have, you know, you have to have more than 50% in order to win the, in order to win the election or you'll have to have a runoff. Or you have to have a runoff. So there, like I said, there are several other ways that you can set up voting that eliminates that possibility of a runoff. And one of them is to do it polarity instead of majority. And what that means is that essentially, the person who gets the most votes, even if it's one vote or two votes, they're the ones that win the election. And so that is one option that people are using out there. And there are a lot of municipalities in South Carolina that do that form of voting. And then the other option would be the ranked choice voting, or it's called instant runoff voting. And that was what was proposed in the legislature last year was the instant runoff voting. Is that going to happen with proposed last year? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's what Howard proposed last year was for the city of Oklahoma to consider doing the ranked choice voting. And just so that it's, it's, there's a little video I'd like to show that kind of explains what it is. And so I think it'll give some context to this. If you don't mind us showing the little video that emailed it to you Reverend McDowell, but I don't, I don't know if you'll be able to see it while we're watching it now, but I know you watched it earlier. Yeah, thanks. Politics is tearing us apart. And it's because elections aren't working for most of us. Here's why. In the US, each of us can vote for the candidate who likes the most. But whenever more than two candidates are running to win one seat, it's possible for most voters to hate whoever wins. Because of this split vote, politicians can ignore the will of most voters and still win. Ranked choice voting gives you the freedom to select a backup choice to prevent that from happening. Let's say a group uses ranked choice voting to decide what to eat for dinner tonight. Each voter selects their favorite dish, but also has the option to choose backup dishes. If one food receives more than half the votes, it wins just like in any other election. But let's get to dessert where the competition is more fierce. What if no ice cream flavor has more than 50% of the vote? Under a normal race, vanilla would win, even though a majority of voters didn't pick it. With ranked choice voting, the flavor with the fewest votes is eliminated. And voters who chose that flavor as number one will have their votes count for their next choice. Everyone gets a say and don't waste their vote. And the winner is the flavor that the large number of people agreed upon. That's ranked choice voting. It's as easy as one, two, three. You get more voice and more choice. And that makes elections better for all of us. Did I make a comment? I'm not sure that that video describes then what the people really wanted. So the answer is more people voted for vanilla, but chocolate ends up winning because it got more secondary or tertiary votes. So does that really represent the will of the people or does that not represent the will of the people? I've had the meetings on this and I just can't, I can't, in my own mind, determine that somehow that now represents the will of the people. And the way we do it is vanilla wouldn't have won because vanilla's got to go into a runoff with chocolate. So I just, I mean, I've really, I gotta be honest with you, I really, really, really, really tried to get on board with this because at the beginning it sounded reasonable that that's the way it works. I just, I cannot make myself get to a point where somehow it really defines the will of the people. So anyway, I just, I've struggled with the concept because I don't, I think the way we do it now is likely the best way to do it. So I totally understand that. Bringing it to you for information because Councilman Duvall was approached and that he wanted us to consider it. And the other option again is the, you know, the polarity over the majority where the person who wins, who has the most votes, is 90 to 50 percent. That person has the most votes, which would be vanilla in that situation, then you wouldn't have another one. So strawberry, it's almost like strawberry is somehow influenced in the election, but nobody wants strawberry. But with the right choice vote. So these are just options that other communities use. Currently, there's about 50 different jurisdictions around like 13 million voters that use ranked choice. So it is something that's out there in the, in different communities across different states. So what does Wrestling County do? They do polarity from what Erica gave me. The only other issue with that is the money, the financial piece. From a runoff. Yeah. The financial piece becomes an issue not only because the county does it differently, it becomes a financial issue for us in the city, right? Yes, sir. That is one of the issues that arises when you have a runoff. And so we want to, you know, you ought to have some discussion about other ways to vote that would eliminate the possibility of having a runoff. And these were just two, these are two. What is the average cost of a runoff? Look right now, I don't know that I have that information. We're going at our cost. So Reverend Dowl, I don't know if you can hear me. I asked him to bring back up the plurality method because honestly, the plurality versus the majority, the way you all do it now, is something that Erica, Teresa, Knox and I have always talked about at the right time, raising with you all just to make a decision one way or the other, because it always comes up because of the issue of the election runoffs that we have and the cost. That's the reason why we always have, you know, said we, at some point, we need to think about this because I do think the majority of other entities do plurality. But that's different than rank choice. Yeah, right. That's the only reason. I honestly don't even necessarily think y'all needed to even talk about rank choice, but it was referred to the committee during the time. Like I said, I've tried to get it. I just can't get it. Yeah, we were just, we were closing the loop on the referral that was in the minutes. Okay. So while it was being brought up as a formal referral, I was suggesting to Pam and Erica, hey, it's on the same topic. Go ahead and put it on the table about the plurality because there's never really a great time because every other time we saw it, it's been like an election cycle and people didn't want to even talk about it because they didn't want to confuse the current, you know, election that might have been pending. So we don't have to talk about it now either. No, I do want to, Erica is in class today, so she would have all your answers on cause and everything else that Pam, Norm, Teresa, or I probably have had readily available. But just in general, if seven people ran for a seat and somebody got one more vote than the second place person, they would win. Regardless, even if they were at 22%. Of polarity, yeah, they would win. So Auditiy, would you have won? Yeah, 36%. Don't get existence out of one house, whether there's a run-off or not. Why would run-offs there? So that, that is the point. We just wanted to make sure like Ms. Wilson said that we brought up the right choice voting because it was a pending item that got referred. But just in general, I could probably support, maybe down the road, some hybrid plurality model. I don't want somebody being elected at 23%. Sorry. So, but also understand that, you know, if you have enough people running, 51% is a tough hill to climb. 20 times more than three. Yeah, right. Right. It's just, this is not, you know, so I can promise you, I was very excited that there's only two of us running in my election, versus three or four of us. Or seven. Or seven. Yeah. So anyway, I could, I could potentially support a hybrid model where you had to have a super plurality, super minority plurality. How about that? Which is what? Like 41% or something. There's like a threshold. I could, I could support. So what happens if there's not, you have to do another election? You'd have to have a runoff. I mean, I just think though that, I mean, in my mind, somebody, you're basically lowering the threshold of the general. Yeah, I guess. So you don't need 50 plus one, you're saying you can get by with something. Yeah, I can support a hybrid model that, but, but I mean, at some point, you know, going back to good old vanilla and chocolate over here, you know, so if 45% of the people supported vanilla, that in my mind, that's the will of the people. And then if just strawberry jumps on board with chocolate to end up making it 55%, well, I think you just undermine the will of the people. So, so anyway, I think this is about the will of the people more so than anything. Well, I'm more but a pecan than I am. And thanks. I agree a little bit, a little bit, Peter, but what you're saying in terms of a hybrid approach to this later on down the road, but we've been doing it this way. Hello. Long time. Long time. Long time. And that's the majority. It would seem to me that we need to at least discover what that hybrid approach could look like, would look like, and then go from there. But right now, I think I think it gives I think it gives persons an opportunity to stay and do what they want to do in terms of the neglect. And again, you know, the discussion is that if we did change to polarity and don't have the runoffs, you know, there's a cost involved in the runoff. People don't show up for runoffs. The committed people show up in the runoff. That's exactly right. You're 100% right. But I also think that's part of the will of the people, you know, so I think, I think, you know, we talk about this a lot, marketing and messaging. The messaging is that I think, well, we support a open election that where the winner is the best option determined by the will of the people. We wanted to definitely, like Ms. Wilson said, talk about the rent choice because that was pending out there. And then give you the, you have a discussion about the plurality versus the majority at a time where you weren't having an election. And so, you know, it was a clean time to kind of bring it up and talk about it. So is your thoughts to bring back some type of? Just because Erica wasn't here. I mean, I think it's worthwhile just to talk about it again. I would love to see examples of if there has been an in between, if they've lowered the threshold in other states or counties. Okay. Because that may, I hear the concern about costs that could address some of the, like, not needing a runoff. If you don't have to get to 50%. But I also agree, like, 20%. That just doesn't feel right for a big city like Columbia. I know, it doesn't. The interesting thing is that we're not, we're talking today. There is a need for us to talk some more about plurality and of course, majority, whichever way we want to go. But I think this is not the only conversation we're going to have as we move into 2025. Agreed. So we will try to find some other examples where the thresholds are different or lower. And then we'll make sure we make sure Erica's here. That's right. The next time we talk about this and we'll bring it back. She's not here, but we'll make sure she's here. The next time we talk about this, she definitely has a wealth of knowledge on elections and what happens, you know, in the state of South Carolina as it relates to elections. Okay. Yes, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Which is, which gives us, it gives us a greater need to have some more conversations relative to the item number one. Let's look at, let's look at item number two, a food truck policy. A year ago, I want to say a year ago, we talked about the food trucks and we talked about Friday food trucks. Dr. Mussels, talk to us a little bit about it. Yes, absolutely. So a little over a year ago, almost two years ago, we talked about activating some of our areas that don't necessarily have brick and mortars and wanting to get more of people kind of exploring our entertainment districts. And we launched Food Truck Friday. This was in response to a question that I received from a constituent about why we don't have food trucks during the legislative session near the state house. And so obviously we'd love to hear from our staff how that is going. And I've been to several food truck Fridays, but we tried a lot of different things. And I think right now we're doing an 11 to three time span on Fridays at Bull Street. We looked at other locations as well, but because Bull Street is a work in progress currently, and there aren't as many options in that area, that was the place we saw the most traffic. So we'd love to hear from our OBO and Economic Development Department about how Food Truck Fridays is going. And then we can move into talking a little bit about some of the policy conversations that we've had. I will note that we did some very preliminary research about different food truck policies across South Carolina. Like Columbia, Greenville also does not allow food trucks in public right of ways. However Charleston does. So there's like some different ways to do it. Currently in our ordinance, we don't allow it in public spaces. But of course, private properties like curiosity, coffee doesn't. A lot of breweries will bring in a food truck. That has been kind of the way in which they've been operating. Right now, Greg Williams is here. And we've got Harold Reeves. We've got Santé. What's your last name? Cooper. And from OBO and Hope Hastings from Krista's Group. And so we've got lots of people here to answer any questions and to add to our conversation today. Let me ask this before Greg comes on board. Dr. Bussell, let me ask you this. We're not talking about, we're talking about Food Truck Friday, but we're talking about a holistic approach now as we approach food trucks. Yes. So Councilman Brown had raised potentially also revisiting based on, you know, kind of what he had been hearing, and I don't want to speak for you, but just wanted to learn a little bit more about what our food truck ordinance is. So we're going to just do a brief overview of Food Truck Fridays, which was really, you know, if you recall, Reverend McDowell, we decided at that time we didn't want to make any policy changes. We just wanted to launch a food truck initiative. Yeah. So today would be a very preliminary conversation getting Councilman Brown up to speed, and then also just hearing from TK, you know, what are some options if we do decide at our next meeting, we want to review a potential ordinance. And just for the record, while we're sitting here, I wrote down like three brief questions for me. Like, do we, you know, what is the current success of Food Truck Friday? Second one would be, what is the need for change? Third one would be what would be the goal for a policy change? Those, I mean, those are off the top of my head. So it's hard to, you know, part of this is, you know, what are we trying to achieve in my mind? And where, you know, where are we, you know, as far as currently? And, you know, so that's kind of where I'm at. And I think one of the specific things that happened that right, Greg and Harold into the mix, too, was when Mr. Brown received, I guess, some concern from a church, Trinity, because they were wanting to do food trucks in the right of way, but it was for a particular event and they were having, and they tend to want to do that quarterly. And so we weren't, there was a workaround for that, and they were able to do their bit. But I think it's heard the conversation Dr. Bussells, you are already having. So how could you fall that too into the ongoing policy for things like that? Perfect. Well, good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for letting me speak to you guys. I'll kind of outline how the food truck Friday has gone. I would like to, I guess, kind of highlight our OBO staff and attendance. Ms. Cooper, for doing an outstanding job with scheduling, wrangling these food trucks. I know firsthand what an effort is required to work with them. Remember when you said email you directly and we didn't have a food truck's email? Exactly. All right, so OBO has started doing four trucks on each Friday, and that's usually three different very cuisines and one dessert truck. This has worked out really well because we all know things like happen in life. So you can have a cancellation every now and then, and this allows a variety of trucks to still be out there to service the public. OBO staff is doing outreach to various city departments and state agencies to encourage participation, because I mean, what's the point if they're not coming out there to enjoy the food trucks? They have also appeared on Soda City Live to promote this event. They receive a great deal of requests from food truck vendors to participate because we believe it is lucrative for them to go out there. Ms. Cooper has worked with public relations to increase interest through our various social media platforms. They're also using social media to review and invite new vendors to participate from various food truck pages on Facebook, Instagram, from the surrounding areas. So the trucks currently are scheduled out until the end of April, and this is only due to the business license requirement that each truck must have. They must have a City of Columbia business license. They must have a DHEC viable permit that they can serve safe food. Let's see, the trucks typically see up to 40 customers, and OBO staff is sending out periodic surveys to participants to get feedback to see what works, what doesn't work, and they have had trucks also express interest in offering the event multiple days. So instead of Food Truck Friday, maybe you could do Taco Tuesday, you know, whatever you wanted to roll out there and do. OBO has also shared information with each of the vendors on how they can assist with growing each individual small business, and working with these trucks has also resulted in participation in other City events, the breast cancer awareness breakfast, and that is currently the state of the food truck program. Good, so great, I want to say, happy birthday to grade, great birthday today, happy birthday, great day to your birthday, yes sir it is, how old are you? I'm 45 years old, I will say it, I'm ready to own it. Ah the good old days, I'm just getting, you're blessed, you're blessed, I guess he is great. Food trucks of course offer a kind of opportunity within our city to enlarge and project a kind of image where folk are being paid. OBO has the responsibility to understand that there are three, there are three food trucks now that are existing, there are three food trucks that are co-existing within defined communities, tell me about that. Yes sir, they typically operate out of the REI parking lot in the Bull Street district and they will set up at various places throughout that parking lot and you know they try and vary the cuisine, so you know it's not necessarily three barbecue trucks or three taco trucks, it'll be a you know smash burger, it'll be a taco truck and then it'll be a barbecue truck, so you have a variety of choices to go to and enjoy. Okay now what time, what time does all that start? That is from 11 a.m to 3 p.m on Friday. Okay thanks. And that was one of the goals, Mr. Chair, sorry, may I speak? One of the goals that we had talked about initially was to see this be expanded into an evening time, I think you'd bring a very different crowd and I'd love if the staff could go back and see if there's any feasibility to that. Ideally we could link up to something that already exists. I think the Bull Street area especially during games, there's an opportunity there in the summertime to take advantage of that in the evenings but I love the connection that we're making to these oftentimes first-time business owners, minority business owners, and we're highlighting ethnic cuisine, like there's just a lot of great things we could do there. So if it's okay, I'd love to recommend that we explore just for the food truck Fridays, what would that look like if we did something in the evenings? And I definitely want to get, Chante, I want to give you an opportunity to speak as well since you're coordinating this a lot now. So is there anything that Greg left off, anything you want else you wanted to share about your thoughts on it? If you don't mind coming to that mic because that way we'll be able to hear you a little bit better. Okay, so you're good. He covered them all. I just want to continue. Thank you. What is the, what's the vibe from the brick-and-mortar businesses about Food Truck Friday? It's been positive. Well mostly because we moved away from them. From them. That's the conversation, Mr. Brown, is that they're very supportive as long as they're not right next door to them. So which is, which is understandable and I think that they are comfortable with the setup that we have now with the Fridays at Bull Street. And so that's been some of the conversation that some of the main street or the, or five points, you know, they just want to be careful that they're not too close to them because of some of the fees and some of the things they incur from Brandon being a brick-and-mortar business that the food trucks don't slow down. Most of the food trucks are kind of, they don't have a brick-and-mortar. Yeah, but they're selling themselves to like organizations, like if you're a school or church or whatever. Yeah, they do a lot of events. That's where they're really, I mean, in my mind, Food Truck Friday is more like marketing for them, don't you think? It is. Okay. So it's just a way for them to people to connect them to other opportunities. Yeah. So when you talk about after like evening, what do you have in mind? Four to six, like something before the games, if we stick to Bull Street, I think that would make sense. Again, I'd love to explore the state house option. I know there's a lot of things we'd have to worry about there in terms of security, but would we be able to provide three or four food trucks on our parking spots that they could come during the legislature? Things like that. That doesn't necessarily have to be a program. I think that would be more so like, can we work with our existing zoning laws to do that? But yeah, anything that we could do to be able to tell the story of like we are elevating these businesses and providing them the marketing and the platform, but we are again, aligning with all the great things that are happening in the city, like our fireflies, like the new things that are coming to Bull Street. I think that would be a nice sweet spot. So going back to my questions, would we consider Food Truck Friday a current success? Do we feel like there's need for change in the program? So I think the discussion goes to when like a trinity wants to do or when someone wants to put a new truck, because we've had an internal working group with economic development, OBO, Chris's group, parking, they've been talking about, you know, other things around the whole Food Truck policy, things that have occurred from other vendors wanting to, you know, put a food truck in the right way or do some other things. And so they've talked through some potential things to figure out or to work around. But if there's a Food Truck Friday, there's no changes. Right. Yeah. Right. So don't they, what's the place over there on Divine Street? Crafter Jeff. Don't they park a truck right in front of the sign on the right. Okay. And now the special events and all that we've done that, you know, kind of elevate special events and things of that nature. Harold's now in place, coordinating that effort. So he's gotten involved. And I was really proud of Harold and Greg were able to do the work around for the church. But I don't know if there's any other things y'all want to bring to the attention of the committee to think about while we want to, I like the idea of expanding these opportunities. Yeah, I think you're, I mean, that's why I say that's the reason I brought that up because, you know, I'm pro, I'm pro Food Truck. I'm not pro, no policy, you know, no, not enough policy, you know, with policy, you got to have compliance. So, so the problem is, you know, you always got to be careful what you wish for. Wouldn't you say most are complying? I mean, that's an unauthorized exam, or are we seeing a lot of unauthorized food trucks under the table? Yeah. Either one. First of all, good afternoon and thank you for the opportunity to share as Dr. Bussell stated, we currently do not have an ordinance that supports food trucks in the right of way. The food trucks that we have currently are either in parking lights or either when it comes to special events. So it's an enclosed area. And yeah, and like the church. So if we start looking at right of way options, I think that there's going to have to be a strong look at public safety issues as well as, you know, different other departments involved because not only do you need to look at pedestrian and consumer safety, you need to look at vehicular safety as well, making sure that that vehicle is not in the roadway, making sure that, you know, the cooking utensils that they use, whether it be gas or whatever, propane is properly vented and everything. So I think that there is going to be some issues that need to be addressed from a public safety issue. And Dr. Bussell, when you're relating to the State House, we would need to work with the Capitol Police and everything when it comes to that. So right now there is a lot of issues that we would need to look at and address when we move into a right of way type environment. You know, like you were saying, I think the Five Points parking lot or private parking lots or whatever are more conducive because you don't have people right up close to the road, you know, where small children or someone break away from a parent when they're in line or someone who was driving erratic or not paying attention, hit the vehicle on the side of the road. So there are issues that need to be addressed if we want to move that way. I think, you know, for something like the State House as an example, there are plenty of state agency parking lots there, too. So there are some things we could look at. It doesn't necessarily have to be in the right of way. I do think that Capitol Police and, you know, other agencies would be willing to come to the table and try to make those available to the, you know, to those at the State House. All right, so there's definitely workers. Yeah, right. So we would consider some type of reasonable ongoing expansion of the food truck. In terms of the workaround that you all were able to do with the church, is that something that would be easier? Should we do like a text amendment to zoning or is it something you can continue to use if we have more things like that come up? I think for that one, we were fortunate that it was kind of a predisposed event, so that allowed us to kind of have that workaround that Harold mentioned. But yeah, there would be some work that we would have to go through to make that possible. But it's possible. Okay. Well, there's a will, there's a way. Oh, great. I do want to commend you and Harold for doing what you've done for food truck policy, food truck Friday, and OVO for providing that kind of assistance. And I think what I'm hearing is an approach with some issues that we need to talk through and work through as it relates to food truck. Dr. Bussell, as you mentioned the night that I think toward the 6th, I think we have to consider all of those kinds of things because the time you should come in and get dark and flicker. But those are the kinds of issues we can talk through and at least work through at this point. We truly thank you for that. We really thank you for this, at least starting this process and getting all of us involved in this process. Because folk are delighted when they're all food trucks and they are anxious to get some of it. So let's go forward. Now, members, I think that there is in my thinking, I think there's a notion and I think thank you Dr. Bussell for bringing this to our attention in terms of food truck Friday and the expansion of that as it relates holistically to this community about for this Friday or for this Wednesday or Thursday. I think there needs to be some continued conversation relative to that whole issue. And I would suggest, I would only suggest that we continue to talk through it. Sounds good. Yep. Okay, so can we concentrate and agree that we're going to continue to talk about food trucks? Yes, we'd love to hear what you all recommend for potentially expanding in the evening. I'm agreeing with you. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Benjamin. Yes, sir, you're welcome. All right, let's go into item number three. Honorary naming of streets and signs and that sort of thing. Talk to us a little bit about that, Ms. Pam. Yes or so. I just wanted to, this will be really quick. I have provided the updated copy of the application that Mr. Brown and Dr. Bussells make some edits to. And so I'd like to formally move that this application out of committee to be used for anyone who is looking to do an honorary street naming facility or room or site, site naming. I think, Peter, you have an opportunity to look at that. Dr. Bussells, you have an opportunity to look at that. I mean, I think it looks great. I just want to make sure it's actually used. I mean, we voted on two namings before this was even out of committee. So that was a very awkward thing for me. Although I was in support of those change, you know, of those namings, there's no point in creating a process if it's not used. So what are we going to do to enforce? I think that's true. And I think it's, in my mind, the goal of this was to maybe raise the bar an inch, not 10 feet. So all we're trying to do is have a formalized process that you have to follow in order to get what you want, whether or not, like Dr. Bussells just said, just because everybody agrees with it, the process is more important than the outcome. So 100 percent every time, every time, every time. You know, trying to get me getting sick, we had a conversation early on about this issue, about the renaming process and honoring those persons with a topper. We talked about that. This brings us full circle now into bringing this item committee into council, for council to approve it. I think we're well on our way of developing a process where all bases are covered. It's a clear thing. I agree. I think it's a good improvement. And we just got to make sure that you can break the rules. Yes, sir. Now, we've done that before, sir. I know. Oh, yeah. I think we're all well aware. And I must say, and I see this very honestly and different, the rooms were, yeah, the rooms were broken, but they were broken in good place. You sound like you sound like you sound like my 16 year old. So can we can we concentrate? Here it is. I would bring this item committee into council. Yeah, absolutely. I think the last two months of February being black history. And that was the request to get them on there. But the rules were followed. Right. She followed this. There you go. She was here and now she's gone. She did a good job of making sure they had all the elements present when she, and she used you all's form to do that. So we were in compliance with the application for those two as well. Yeah, that makes me feel good that we followed the process. And again, Dr. Buss's point, it passed unanimously. Yeah, I mean, it was a great right. So we just need to put this line in the sand that that going forward is what it is. Yes, sir. Sounds good. Sounds good. So consistently, we will take this, bring this item committee into council. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Is there anything else? That's it. Okay, good. Look, I just thought of something. And our next meeting, let's take up the whole issue of proclamations and keys to the city. I wanted some keys. Yeah, that would be great. That would be great, Dahl. I'd love to give everyone keys to the city, but that needs to be a process. I agree. We're going to do this with a street naming. I think we ought to do it with proclamations and keys to the city. 100% agree. So let's put that on the agenda for next month. Yes, sir. So we can do that. So that sounds like I followed the process. No, sir. She's looking at it. We will definitely bring that back to the next meeting and have you all something, a policy to look at. Yes, sir. All right. All men, as they used to say in the old church, all minds clear. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Motion to adjourn. Second. Good to hear your voice, Ed. Thank you, Reverend McDowell. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Benjamin.