 OTAN, Outreach and Technical Assistance Network. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome. I am so excited to be here with you today. My name is Paul Young. I'm from LAUSD, the Division of Adult and Career Education. I was, oh, hold on a second. I forgot I need to put on my first slide while I talk. Okay, so here we go. I was a developer of the original Moodle version of PTW1 that is Putting English to Work 1, a beginning low ESL course on Moodle, and which has been very popular with adult ESL students in California for more than a decade now. As OTAN transitions from Moodle to Canvas, I'm helping to adapt the series to the new learning management system. I need to confess that I too am new to Canvas and am learning as I go. In the course of this journey, I am hoping to gain insights and contributions from those of you who are more experienced and knowledgeable about Canvas, and together by sharing ideas and best practices, we will produce an interactive online beginning low ESL course that advances equity among our students and improves their learning outcomes. The PTW1 on Canvas project is part of the California Distance Learning Cooperative. As I mentioned, it's a work in progress upon its official release, possibly over the summer, definitely by fall. The course will be free for all California agencies that use the Canvas Learning Management System. This is what we're gonna do today. I wanna share with you what I have accomplished so far in migrating, Putting English to Work 1 from Moodle to Canvas. You will see the exciting variety of interactive activities. You will have the opportunity to ask questions. More importantly, from the developer side, I will get to ask you for your perspective from the field on whether I work better for students. And finally, I will intrigue you to join me in the beta testing of this course with your class and students. Before we go any further, I wanna hear from you. Take a minute or two and introduce yourself in the chat. Write your name and your agency, any experience you have with Putting English to Work 1, whether it's through distance learning, Moodle, or the old video and workbooks in your classroom, and any Canvas experience you might have. Okay, and just keep it simple, you know? And that way, knowing my audience will help me better target this presentation, okay? So take a minute and introduce yourself in the chat, okay? Okay, great. Jamie, I hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly and I really appreciate some Canvas veterans here. And I'm sure Debbie does as well, you know? Okay, Sean, thanks for joining us on YouTube Canvas. All right, I hope you have some Putting English to Work experience. Oh, Penny's here, oh great. Now I'm a little bit nervous, but I'm happy to have Penny here. Okay, Eileen. I'll be nervous. Oh, San Leandro, oh great. Eileen's watching, no, I grew up in Oakland and I go to San Leandro all the time. But no, some Moodle experience, but no Canvas. Okay, great, all right. I'll just hang out for a little bit. Oh, grew up in Berkeley, oh nice, wow. Okay, don't tell me, Jamie, you went to Cal because I did. I grew up as a teenager going to Rasputin's and Tower Records and Telegraph and eventually ended up at Cal too, so. Oh, right, oh great, okay. You see Santa Barbara, okay. Just as good, just as good, okay. All right, thank you, thank you everyone. That's so great to see such a dynamic accomplished crew here in this session. Today's agenda, we're gonna look at the PTW1 course layout in Canvas from the student's point of view. We'll go over the variety of innovative exercises from the usual multiple choice and fill in the blanks to new interactive videos, dictations and puzzles. The good news is that the large variety of the large majority of the quizzes is automatically graded by the learning management system. Yay, that means less work for you, okay. We'll learn to recognize which exercises requires the teachers to grade and I'll explain why that's necessary, okay. Along the way, I'm gonna ask you a few questions because at this stage it will be helpful for me to know what you as teachers think and your input will be helpful as I continue to fine tune things before our big rollout, okay. Finally, I'm gonna talk about beta testing, okay. And I would like you to consider participating and experimenting with me on this great project, okay. So without further ado, I'm gonna switch my share screen to my Canvas page, which is right here, okay. So this is my Canvas page and it's my dashboard and it's the developer's view. As a teacher, you're gonna have a different view and that won't be a problem. They're all quite similar, but on my dashboard I have Paul's PTWS sandbox and new PTW-1 build. And this is where I'm sketching out the entire course, okay. Here on the left column, there are many options and like I said, I'm a developer, you'll be a teacher, you might not have all these options and that's a good thing by the way because these things can get overwhelming, but you will have a chance to customize things in the course to suit your needs. And I'm gonna switch right now to the student view to show you what I'm talking about. I have a student view button up here on the upper right and I'm gonna click on that. And this is what the student will see. As you can see, great, a lot fewer options and my temporary placeholder image is here with temporary placeholder text. This you can customize, you'll be able to put whatever picture you want here and whatever welcome text and summary of the course you would like here. And the syllabus here on the left is also customizable to your needs, okay. Here's a little page for announcements you might wanna make to your students, a connection to your Google Drive and a page for your scheduled Zoom meetings and link and any badges you might wanna award to your students who are completing or making regular advances to the 20 units at the course, okay. So where is the content you're asking? It's right here under modules. Okay, if I click on modules, this is what the students will be doing, going to modules as soon as they log in and it's taking a second to load. If I scroll down, you can see that there are 20 units to this entire course with video episodes and workbook exercises that have been translated into this online course, okay. So I'm gonna go back to the top and the first unit I see is what's your name? If I throw down the arrow, the contents of the unit are displayed in order, okay. So let's just click do this, okay. Episode one is right here. If I click on that. Paul, we have a request. Is it possible for you to enlarge the screen please? Oh, how's this? Is this better? That looks good to me. How about Sean, is that good? Yes, thank you. Okay. Great, thank you guys for speaking out. We're all in our little cocoon here, right? So if I'm doing something that doesn't come across, please don't hesitate to let me know or Debbie and Debbie will inform me. So thank you Debbie, thank you Sean. So here, episode one, you can see that the watch episode one link, there's a quick synopsis of the story of this video episode, a summary of the life skills that are covered as well as the grammar, okay. And this is a snapshot from the student workbook if you're familiar with it, okay. So if I click on the watch episode one, it's gonna launch in a separate window and it's right here. The video plays almost instantly. The streaming is very efficient and fast. There's also a full screen button on the lower right corner. This has filled up my screen. I'm Liz Chan, in this television series. So as you can see, the video quality is, although not high definition, is quite good and very acceptable for our students to study English with. And on the lower right corner, there's a gear button. If I click on that, okay, you won't be able to see this because I have my screen is actually a 4K, which means it's twice the definition of a high definition screen, okay. So it's the 4K screen. So the pixels will be much smaller here. And, but there's a closed caption button. If I choose English, you will be able to see, you won't be able to see it, unfortunately. But closed captioning appears on the top of the screen. And that's something that you can show your students, that they have an option to watch this program with the English subtitles on, okay, for assistance. So one advantage of having the video open in a separate window is that, your students can keep the video open at all times while they are working their way. I'm gonna click on modules now to go back to the contents of the course. They can keep that video open and as a reference, while they're working through the course and it's exercises, okay. So from episode one, I went back to modules to come to this main menu and I'm gonna go to the first exercise, you know, one vocabulary, okay. So this is a very nice visual drag and drop exercise. Students click on the vocabulary and they get to move things around, okay. So it's very tactile and it's fun, you know? It's not like you have to type, you know, for a level one students, they have to type right into a small box with their first exercise. They get to, you know, move things around in a very fun and interactive way. So let me try to finish this really quickly and see how this works. The pen, pencil and the board, okay. Sit, submit and I get all the items correct. If I make an error, the students can do this as many times as she needs to improve her grade, okay. So there's a unlimited number of times a student can complete this exercise. So to proceed, I have two choices. I can go back to modules and go back to the main menu where I see my exercises listed in order or I can click the next button here on the lower right corner. I hope you're able to see that. I will click this next button and it's taking me to the next exercise, which is your turn and it's a video. Look at the alphabet page in your book. Work on your book at home. Watch and listen. Look at the alphabet on your paper. When I say a letter, point to the letter on your paper. Point to the letter you hear. Let's spell this word. P-E-N. It's a... Pen. So the video stops and there's a prompt to identify this vocabulary word. So I'm gonna drag this pen into the box and click check. And if I did not get that correctly, I would have a chance to retry that, okay. I got it correct, so I'm gonna choose continue. Yes, Miguel, it's a pen. And here on the bottom where you see these circles on the timeline, that's where the next exercises are. So I'm just gonna skip for the sake of convenience. I'm gonna skip to the next one and hit play. It's a... Boop, boop, boop. So I'm gonna choose what happens if I choose the wrong answer, retry. I get to try it again, check again, and then move on. Yes, okay, here's a long word. You are students, yep. Oops, I got that wrong. I'm gonna just click retry and check again. Yep, and I'm your T-E-A-C-N. You're a teacher. Okay. That's right, Lana. So one thing you have to remember with these interactive videos is that at the end of it, you have, the student has to click the submit answer button in order for the canvas to accept the score. Okay, so I'm gonna click submit answers. And it says attempt successfully submitted, okay? If I ever wanna check my grades, your student was simply click on grades here. What was this? This was unit one is your turn. So let's go to grades and look for that, okay? Unit one is your turn. Sometimes canvas takes a few more seconds than you would like for things to load, but it'll come soon. So here we go. So the vocabulary we just did here, and it's your turn is here. So I got four out of four is your turn and 12 out of 12 with the vocabulary exercises. And I'm gonna go back to modules and continue where I left off, okay? Remember modules is the menu of your entire unit, okay? So let's look at the alphabet. So here's a video. That's the alphabet, 26 letters. Each letter is very important. Watch and listen. Yo, A, B, C, D. Okay, so the student will, you know, wrap along with the alphabet wrap here. And at the very bottom, the student has a prompt, okay? Record yourself reading the English alphabet. Click the record button below to start. Click them when you're finished, okay? So let's try that. A, B, C, D, and I'm gonna click done. Okay, so this exercise is not graded. It's simply for the student to practice that, you know, she can record her own voice and listen to it and have the option to download it, okay? Or just listen to it. A, B, C, as soon as I navigate away from this exercise, we're gonna lose that recording, okay? So just keep that in mind. Whenever you see a recording exercise like that, it's just more for a student to practice temporarily. Once you navigate away, the system does not save the exercise, okay? So I'm gonna continue by clicking the next button on the lower right corner. And here we have an arranged the letters of the alphabet exercise. And there's a instruction here. It says, put the letters of the alphabet in the correct order. Start from the left side of the top row. So I'm just gonna make this one a little bit smaller. There you go. Okay, so what the student has to do is put the alphabet in order starting from the left. So it's gonna be A. I always get nervous doing this in front of an audience. You know, so like, I can't find my letters. So, and what happens is that you can check your answers and see what you've gotten correct and resume. That means pick up where you left off without having to start all over again. So resume, let's see if it maintains the first row of letters as I've placed them. So, yes. We have a couple of questions. Sure. Where are you getting these exercises from Lola? And then Jamie, you're gonna go to the next one. Are you getting these exercises from Lola? And then Jamie is asking, is this course available for educators to use with students? I'm gonna get to that, okay? Jamie, hang on. Remember, you're gonna have a chance to beta test this with your students, okay? And I'll explain that later on. Where did I get these exercises? Well, is Penny still here? No. Okay, well, we made them with a app called H5P and we've imported them into Canvas, okay? And like I said, when the program launches, hopefully this summer, but definitely no later by the fall, it's gonna be free to all the schools who use Canvas, okay? So save those questions for later. And let me continue so we can get through all the exercises because I realized that I only have about 30 minutes left, okay, and much more to show. So, but don't let me deter you from asking questions, okay? I just keep confident that I can answer these two questions better later, okay? So next in the lower right corner to continue. And here's a flash card exercise. What is this? Book, check, correct. Next one, pencil, check, correct. And this is another fun visual exercise that our students will enjoy, okay? And once a student goes through all of these flash cards, and you can see here, there are 10 of them. And if not all of them are correct, the student can try it again as many times as the student wants to get a perfect score, okay? So I'm gonna click next on the lower right corner. And here's another interactive video I can tell because there's a video and there are these little circles on the timeline, okay? So let's watch this video. Excuse me, can I have more water please? So the video plays twice. The student watches it the first time and then the second time, the student is prompted with questions, okay? Excuse me, can I have more water please? I'm gonna try water and check. Oh, great, continue. Oh, and how about some coffee and some of Lucy's pumpkin pie heated with ice cream? Okay, Ms. Stelman, oh no, got that wrong. Retry, and it tells me what the correct answer is. So I'm gonna retry and choose the other one. Yeah, in this case, it's either gonna be one or the other, right? But when you have more than two choices, that's helpful, okay? So let's check that, good. Your waitress will bring your pie right out. Thank you. Miguel, you work hard. You do a very good job. Thanks, boss. And the cool thing is it plays full screen on your computer, okay? The exercise is scales nicely, okay? So Miguel is a good worker, right? But you need to learn more English. With more English, you could be a waiter. Make more money. I understand. English classes are free at the adult school. You could start tonight. Adult school. Yes, tonight. Okay, so don't forget when these interactive exercises, videos, you have to click submit answers at the end, okay? Look, your answers have been submitted. Great, okay? So we're gonna move on by clicking the next button at the lower right corner of the screen. So here's an ordering, a sequencing exercise, right? Put the conversation in the correct order. You drag these things up and down, okay? So remember, this is a very basic level one unit, the very first of the entire course. So it's gonna be my name is Marta Lopez. What's your name? My name is John Franklin. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too, right? I think that's correct. Let's submit. Oh, great. Okay, I got it all correct. As you can see, there's a great variety of exercises, right, that the students will engage in and find very stimulating, okay? So here's something that's very traditional, right? Fill in the blanks, okay? So look what happens if you get the answers all wrong. I'm gonna submit and it's telling me that I got them all wrong. And if I say show solution, it gives me the answers, okay? So that I could retry with the correct answers, okay? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. What's your first name? It is, it is my name is and submit. And the student can do this as many times as she needs to get the best score possible, okay? So I'm gonna click on this next button here on the lower right. And here, the majority of these exercises are straight out of the book. And we just tailored them and adapted them to the learning management system. Before it was Moodle and now we're upgrading it to Canvas. And this page is right out of the book. If it's hard to see, you can always click this full screen button and it fills the screen nicely. And the student can navigate at the bottom of this page with this arrow, complete the sentence with is or it's not it, it is a pen, it is not a book check, that's great. And what if the student is wrong? You click the eyeball here, it reviews the correct answers and the student can retry, okay? And so this is what this looks like. It is a calendar, it is not a chair. And sometimes like with the videos, you have to click that, there's a card at the very end, right? With a list of the questions and you click the submit answers text on top. And other times you get this notice. So after a while, you'll have to get used to when students have to do what, okay? And that's probably the trickiest part of this, right? Okay, so I'm gonna click the next button and it's a similar kind of thing, okay? So this is multiple choice, right? This is a variety in this one, actually. It's multiple choice and yes, they are checked. Oh, no, they're not, okay, not no books. I'm gonna click the eyeball and it's gonna be my chance to retry, okay? No, they're not, okay. So, and here, write the short answer, okay? So it's looking for, because if we go back to the scaffolding, we're being taught the short answers here. Yes, you are, no, no, you're not. Yes, he is, no, he's not. So it's looking for that, okay? So is it a clock? Yes, it is, okay? And again, if I don't get this correctly, I get the eyeball which will review the correct answer and the student will have a chance to redo, okay? Okay, and then confirm submits it, okay? And here, there's no submit button unlike the interactive videos, right? So let's move on, next here on the lower, right? Hey, there's a crossword puzzle, right? Isn't this cool? So across two, it says my blank is 14502 green. So I think that it's probably gonna be my address, right? So I'm gonna type address, oh, and that fit. My, what does that say? Phone number, oh my God, this is really long. So it can't be phone number, it must be telephone number, right? Telephone, right? So here we have a crossword puzzle, okay? So again, it just can't emphasize this enough that the variety of exercises, engaging exercises will keep your students interested and motivated to persist, okay? So I'm gonna click next on the lower right corner. As you can see here on grades, I have six items already that I've completed, right? Okay, and so if I want to check, I can, all right? So here, there's a little instruction here. It says click, push to speak and read the sentence and questions you see. Read the sentences and question, start course, okay? This is kind of cool, okay? This is a, so I wonder, I have to read this, okay? But first I wanna click push to speak. How are you telling me I got that correct? What is your name? Oh, my bad, I forgot to click push to speak. What is your name? What is your phone number? As you can see, I'm trying out different sort of intonation and the program is sharp enough to tag it as correct. What is your address? Where are you from? See, there was too much pause between words so it thought I ended, but I can retry that. I am a student. Wow, that's impressive, right? So there's a couple more, I won't bore you. You're probably mocking me right now for my pronunciation, which I don't blame you for if you are. Okay, so that's how that works and I think that's pretty cool, right? Basically it's a kind of a basic speaking lesson with a recording and I'm guessing some very rudimentary artificial intelligence going on under the programming there, okay? So this is a little sign, a little precursor of what things to come in the future of what these programs will be able to do and that's quite exciting, okay? So I'm gonna click the next button on the lower right corner here. And this is your typical multiple choice, right? The student has to read this registration form and then just choose. What is the teacher's name? It's Frank. Okay, so here, remember the tricky thing the trickiest thing you'll have to learn about this is how answers are submitted for grading in the variety of exercises, right? When you see items like this, when you click check that not only checks whether this is correct or not but it submits this one question for grading. As you'll see here, unlike Moodle, and if I choose the wrong, I get a chance to redo this. Unlike Moodle, there's no submit answer button for the entire thing at the end, right? If those of you who are familiar with Moodle it's like submit, submit all the finish and then submit again. There's like three submit buttons that you have to do to finalize an exercise like this. But with this H5P on Canvas, each item that you check is actually submitting the question for grading, okay? So I'm gonna proceed by clicking the next button on the lower right corner. And here, I don't know if you can tell but this looks a little bit different. And it says right here, your teacher will grade this exercise after you've completed the unit. There's a little visual prompt here, the mother talking to the child with dialogue bubbles. And this has resumed quiz because I've been here before as a student. And as the mother asked the child, what is in your backpack? And then the student is prompted to answer the same question here, okay? So I'm gonna say I have a pen and eraser and two books, okay? So I'm gonna submit this quiz. And this is one of those things where it's gonna be here as attempt number one. And right now there's a, the score is zero out of 10 because this is one of those exercises that you, the teacher will have to grade, okay? Because obviously the choices that a student might type into this box to answer that question are infinite, right? I have a pencil, I don't have anything. So this is one of those exercises where we can't pre-programming the correct answers. These are the ones that you will have to pay attention to and assign a grade to, okay? And you will also be able to leave comments for your students too, okay? So I'm gonna continue with next. And this is a dictation. You can tell by the speaker icons that there's audio here. So I'm gonna click on this one. I am a student. So what does that say? I am a student. The teacher is in the classroom. So this is, these sentences are gonna be case sensitive. So the books are on the table. Let's try one where I forget to capitalize the first letter. The books are on the table. My telephone number is two, one, three, four, five, six, nine, eight, seven, three. Okay, I wanna attempt that one right now. Okay, submit, show solution. Okay, so it's telling me that, see, I did not capitalize the, therefore the T, there was does not correct. And I missed all these items here, okay? And I could retry, okay? So that's pretty cool, right? There's a dictation exercise, all right? Again, I just can't emphasize this enough. The variety of activities will keep your students engaged, okay? So next, okay, so here's a little quick random check for comprehension, okay? Is this choose the correct sentence? And it just shuffles automatically. The student doesn't have to do anything to advance the next question, okay? And this, again, you know, you have to, this one, the answers are submitted automatically. You don't have to click a final submit or check button, okay? So narrative reading, okay? When you see this take the quiz, it's gonna be a native, it's like the writing exercise earlier, what's in your backpack, it's going to be a native canvas exercise, not from H5P. And this is directly out of the book, okay? There's a story here, it's a reading comprehension exercise, and I'm gonna play the audio that accompanies it. Unit one, exercise 15. Carlos Nunez is a student. Carlos Nunez is a student at Main Street Adult School. He's in an English class. His teacher is Mr. Edwards. Carlos's friends are Maria and Louise. Okay, so a couple of questions here, and here's something you have to remember. This is right out of the book. This is directly from the Moodle version that we created many years ago, okay? So it says, answer the following questions with complete sentences, okay? So if I just say, what is Carlos's last name? If I just say Nunez, you know, which content-wise is correct, right? But then it's not a correct sentence. It's gonna be wrong, okay? So let's see what happens, okay? So it's incorrect, but when we created the Moodle exercise many years ago, for these sort of questions where we're asking students to write the correct question, and we wanted to create a scenario where teachers didn't have to check everything all the time. We plugged in a variety of answers that we thought students might answer with, you know, to as much as we can make the whole system, you know, automatic and seamless, you know? So when a student gets the wrong answer in these type of exercises where they're supposed to write a correct complete sentence, they're gonna get these options, okay? For example, what is Carlos's last name? What do we program in? His last name is Nunez. Let me make that bigger for you, okay? His last name is Nunez. Carlos's last name is Nunez. It's Nunez. It is Nunez. Nunez is his last name. What is his teacher's name? His teacher's name is Mr. Edwards. His name is Mr. Edwards. Mr. Edwards is his name. It's Mr. Edwards. It is Mr. Edwards. So that was, you know, very tedious for the developers, but the teachers really appreciated it, you know? So keep that in mind, you know? So there'll be a couple of exercises like this, okay? Probably just one, one in each unit, and that is the narrative reading, okay? So the cool thing about the narrative reading is that it comes with the audio. The students could hear the story read to them and they could also practice pronunciation. For example, you can teach them to do this. Unit one, exercise 15. Carlos Nunez is a student. Carlos Nunez is a student. Carlos Nunez is a student at Main Street Adult School. Carlos Nunez is a student at Main Street Adult School. He's in an English class. He's in an English class. So the student can practice, you know, pronunciation and I don't know about how other teachers do it, but I highly recommend this, right? Because it's a side-by-side practice. They get to emulate the pronunciation, the articulation, the rhythm of the syntax, okay? It's just so valuable. It just really contributes to fluency. And they have the option of downloading this audio track. Oh, it's expired. So this is something I'm gonna make a note of right now and investigate. This is expired token here. I don't know if you can see that. I'll have to talk to Canvas about that, but we want the students to be able to download this audio track and just keep it on their MP3 file and something that they can practice on the go when they're taking the bus to work or doing the laundry at the laundromat, okay? So that's how this works. There's a variety of answers that we've plugged in, hoping that it'll help the teachers. Okay, so I'm gonna have an option to take the quiz again or let me see what happens here. There's no next button here, right? So I'm gonna have to go back to modules after this, right? So I'm gonna go to modules, pick okay. Usually when you're in that student test mode, which is what that is, it takes a little while just to bounce back and forth, okay? So that was narrative reading, right? We're approaching the end, okay? So now I'm gonna click on what's your name, okay? And this is one of the ones that when you see, take the quiz, it's a native canvas exercise that was imported from Moodle, okay? So as you can see this prompt, your teacher will grade this exercise after you completed the unit. So answer these questions with your information, right? So this is gonna look familiar. Students have to type in their own answer. What is your name? My name is Juan Carlos Gonzalez. What is the name of your school? Los Angeles Adult School, okay? And the student will submit the quiz, it'll be saved and you, the teacher will have to come and look at it and assign the relevant points, okay? All we have a question? Yes. How long is the course? How many hours to finish on average? Okay, so there are 20 units. You know, and you can see each unit is quite substantive, okay? And the standard has been that this has always been a distance learning course mostly, but in the past couple of years, some teachers have begun using it in their classrooms, but as a distance learning course, students earn 10 hours of attendance by completing the entire course and scoring 80% or better on the unit test, okay? And here is the unit test, okay? So this is the last one, okay? And this is right out of the original book. My name is Marta Artega. Check, what is the last name? I'm just gonna click through this because I wanna show you something. Okay, because this is the unit test, if the student makes a mistake, they're not gonna get the correct answer. There's no eyeball here to reveal the correct answer, no show option, but they can click this arrow to clear and retry, but they're not gonna get the correct answer because it's the unit test, okay? So that's one difference here, okay? And let me just see what happens. How do we submit at the end, okay? Because as you recall, submitting for a grade is different for every different class of, I was thinking about what I'm doing here, okay? Oh, that's great. Okay, so he is a teacher. I just wanna see how, oh, so here's another different kind of exercise, right? Students can move words around and place them to match the verb to be with the subject pronoun. Okay, hope I got this right, check. Okay, so you get this prompt to confirm, okay? That's how that works, okay? So if I click, because if you recall, this is the last, the unit test is always the last item, okay, in the course. So if I were to click next right now, it would take me to the first page of episode two and I can watch the video here, right? And I can see a synopsis of the story. Miguel makes plans to study with his classmate Jane and a summary of the life skills and grammar in this unit. And this is a picture of the original page one, cover page of the workbook, okay? So that's it for my demo now. And I can answer any questions you might have before I go on to my next thing about the beta test. So anybody have a question, you can feel free to unmute and ask me directly. Hi, Paul, it's Jamie from Tamadalt School. So what I heard you say was there was 20 modules and they get when they successfully go through them and get in the 80% out there, they get 10 hours of class instruction. Yes, that's correct. Okay. And do you think it takes some students less time or more time at what are your, I'm assuming this is for like the very first level of ESL. It is the first level and it's gonna be different for everybody to be honest. And what is gonna happen is that, and every unit is not exactly the same length. So some units will be shorter and some will be longer, but so it's a general ballpark, the 10 hour assignment. And it's something that we've worked out with the O10 and the adult at office as a CDE from the very inception of this course, okay? So it's a standard that is used across the state regardless of which, for distance learning, regardless of which agency you're from that basically we're assigning 10 units, I mean, 10 hours of attendance per unit upon completion, okay? Completion- Per unit, not per course. Oh, I thought, yeah, okay. So it's really more like 10 times 20, 200 hours. Exactly, right, right. I'm sorry, I misunderstood you, okay, so. Okay, that made me feel what I was like, 20 units, 10 hours, wow, okay, thank you, got it. Right, the course is called putting each work one. It has 20 units. Each unit is comprised of a 25 to 28 minute video and all the accompanying corresponding exercises that you just saw, okay? Did that answer your question? Definitely, thank you. Paul, I have a question. I'm Susan from Conch Cross Accounting, both Martinez and Mount Babel adult. I noticed at the bottom you had badges. Can you tell me more about the badge piece of this? Okay, so thank you for your question, Susan. I haven't gotten that far yet myself. And that's something I'm sure the teachers can figure out, you know what I'm saying? I'm not an expert at Canvas, but as we work together and start beta testing this, hopefully you'll join me, you know what I'm saying? We definitely want a beta test. And I know that Maron and I at Mount Diablo Adult Education are interested in the badges piece. So yeah, we want a beta test so we can figure out badges. And I just want to say that I love Contra Costa County. Did I mention that I grew up in Oakland? No, that's a different county. You know, I used to take the Caldecott Tunnels through the mountain to go to Walnut Creek. And so I am thrilled that there's such a strong Bay area turnout here. We've got San Leandro in the house. We've got Contra Costa County. So glad to hear it. Okay, and we're going to work out that badges thing later because that's one of those minor things, right? That, you know, we'll figure out together, okay? Yeah, we're hoping to use it for encouragement for our students and have them have like a little badge. Oh, definitely, definitely more incentive, you know, positive reinforcement. Okay, thank you, Susan. Okay, anyone else? And so listen, think about your questions. I want to move on to the next thing because I have to do my little spiel about the beta test. Okay, so the beta test, all right? So I'm going to spend the next few weeks proofreading and fine-tuning things. There's still more that I have to do, but basically if you saw my earlier scroll through the modules that all 20 units are basically there. You know, I do have to proofread though. So I hope I can begin this beta test with you guys in April. I hope you're interested, you know? But, you know, there are some requirements, but they're not set in stone. So, you know, I always have an open mind and I love enthusiastic teachers, but it would be great if you have experience using PGW-1 online and even better if you have access to Canvas because, and that your school is part of the California Distance Learning Cooperative with OTAN. If not, let me know and we'll see what we can do, okay? The reason why, you know, I would like some PGW-1 experience is that you can compare things and tell me if it's better or not or what we could do to improve. And then the Canvas thing, it's just like Susan's question. It'll free me up to just work on, you know, polishing the exercises and, you know, you guys and not have to help you with Canvas, you know? So, and I hope we can beta test it in a situation where you're actually using it with students and it could be either in the classroom or through distance learning, okay? And then in the process, you're gonna provide me with feedback on the pros and cons. Basically, you know, what's working and what might not be working and how we can improve things, okay? So right now, I wanna put, I'm gonna put a link to a form that I made that I would like those interested parties to fill out. Okay? I wanna put that in the chat right now. And you know, you can, oh, hold on. Oh, hold on. I just sent that to Penny and she's not here. So I just switched to everyone. Does everyone see that Google Doc link? Yes. Okay. So let me share my screen and switch to the form. Basically, it's a simple form where you're gonna just describe, you know, yourself, your email. And so that I can have a way to contact you to your position at agency. Does your school use Canvas? You know, if yes, we could easily copy the course over to your Canvas class. If not, we'll have to talk to the administrative team here at OTAN to see what we can do, okay? And do you currently have a class that could participate in the beta test? That'd be great if you do. And if not, you know, I'm not gonna reject you automatically, you know, we can talk, okay? And if yes, please describe your class. Is it an in-person class, remote hybrid, distance learning? Is it ESL, you know, a supplement to CTE? Okay, just let me know, okay? And briefly describe any previous experience using PTW, any experience using Canvas. And if you don't have any, don't worry about it, okay? I just wanna get to know you and so that we can form a better partnership in this, okay? Any questions about that? Okay, and so you don't have to fill that out right now. You can just make sure that you click on that link to the form and open it in your browser so that you can fill it out, you know, after this session ends. And Debbie, do you have a link to the... I do, the presentation evaluation right there. So please fill that out as well. Yeah, and again, for both of those items, you don't need to fill it out right away. You know, just make sure you click on them and launch your browser and you can fill it out later on today, okay? And let me just show you, share my screen one last time, okay? This is a, I wanna thank you guys for coming. It was fun hearing myself talk. I really appreciate the questions. And listen, don't hesitate to contact me with any questions you might have. Okay, this is my email pyoungascoe.net, okay? And thank you. Okay, I'm gonna, Debbie, what's gonna happen now? Are you gonna leave and we have to close the room or can we hang out for a few minutes? Well, because we're a 60-minute and a 90-minute slot, we could hang out for a little bit before I get in trouble because they tell me I have to close it promptly but, you know, define promptly, you know? So if you need a minute or two, anybody to ask any questions, if you're thinking of being in the beta test and you wanna ask Paul questions, please do. We'll give you maybe two more minutes. How's that sound? Yeah, so, you know, fill out that form for me, okay? And like I said, I'm gonna spend the rest of the next few weeks, you know, fine-tuning things, proofreading, and I'll contact you within the next two weeks and hopefully we can start, you know, in April. And if we can really test things out, maybe we'll launch over the summer, you know, or definitely by fall, okay? Yes, Tom, question. Hi, yeah, sorry, I missed the entire beginning of your presentation, but I'm interested in, I was in another presentation that was also on Canvas or a Canvas module. And I'm interested, but I don't, is there a way that I can look at your course to see, you know, if it's the right level for my ESL students? Well, what level are your students? They're high beginning. Okay, so this is like a level 1A and 1B. So, possibly. Possibly, yeah, yeah. You can watch, Debbie's making a recording and this recording will be available. You can watch it again and feel free to contact me. Okay, did you write down my email address? I did. Yeah, okay, yeah. So, watch the video. I click through every single exercise in Unit 1 and you'll be able to see for yourself, whether it's right for your class or not, okay? Thank you. And I have a good feeling that it will be, okay? Paul, can they still get it on Moodle? It's still active on Moodle, but I don't know if I would recommend it at this time because they're planning on taking it down at some point, you know, and making the full transition within the next year. So, I would hate for you to gear up, you know, learn Moodle and then find out that you have six months left to use it, you know? But I don't know, maybe the better answer is to ask Penny about it, okay? But probably the ideal thing is to beta test it with me. Tom, do you have a class right now with students? I do, I just don't, is it? Yeah, I'll need to ask more questions about the specific one. Yeah, watch this video, okay? Okay, Jamie has a question. Oh, sorry. I just asked it in the chat. In terms of costless level ESL, cost of scores, do you have like a certain range that you think works best in this class? I don't, I'm sorry. That's okay. Yeah, it's just generally used for beginning low students, one A, one B, okay? Okay, awesome, thank you. You know what, there have been many studies that have shown that students who take a regular in-person class and do distance learning, their costs as results are higher than classroom-only students and higher than distance learning-only students. So that blended learning has really been effective, you know? Okay, so keep that in mind. Okay, more questions. So I asked one in the chat, are you gonna be, is somebody gonna be developing this course for the course two, the higher level, the course two? Two and three will be coming, hopefully sometime next year, okay? Great. All right. All the questions anybody has, the videos will be available once they're remediated and that will depend on your evaluation. So please, please, please fill out the evaluation so that his video and his presentation gets remediated sooner than others and then you'll have access to it. Otherwise, show your address again on the board and then they can email you if they still have questions. Okay, let me show it. Or put it in the chat would work. There you go. Okay, so here it is, pyoungasco.net, okay? And I'll put it in the chat as well. I wanna thank everyone for coming. I had a lot of fun and it was exciting to roll this out and even more excited to be able to beta test with this with you in April, okay?