 Mae'n r memoru ymlaen nhw. Rwy'n ei dweud bod, dwi'n gwybod i cychwyniwch i'r ystod, i'r ddisgynnu eu hyd yn adrodd o Andy Smydd. Yn y fwrdd o hisau, felly fyddai'n rhoi'n gwybod i'r ddweud ymlaen wedi'i hamdffordi'r Llyfrgell Cyddiad Hwylol. Rydyn gyd yn cyd-dwyd i'r ddweud hynny'n bod yn ym universal o'r ymlaen a'r ystod, part of that responsibility is for our apprenticeship scheme, so very concerned with bureaucracy, with simplification in the apprenticeship system, and it's important to us because we recruit large numbers of apprentices, we recruit on average 450-500 apprentices every year, and we also use apprenticeships to develop members of our existing workforce, putting many thousands of young people and more mature members of the workforce through training apprenticeship programmes every year. So when giving the opportunity to look at simplification as part of the employer reference group, there are two major drives for us. One is that if we can drive simplification, if we can reduce bureaucracy in the system, companies such as BT can do more, there's more opportunity for us to take on more apprentices and to use apprenticeships more within our existing workforce. But more importantly, because the likes of BT are already engaged in the system, more importantly we show to those people who aren't yet engaged in the system, those large employers that aren't yet benefiting from apprenticeships and the value that apprentices bring to them, we show that the system isn't complicated and they can get engaged and enjoy the benefits of apprenticeships. So that was our drive for getting involved. But what do you mean by simplification? I think for far too long when we've talked about simplification in the apprenticeship system, people have thought about pieces of paper, the duplication of paper and paper moving around the country, and I think we do ourselves a disservice if we simply view that simplification is about reducing paper. From our point of view simplification is about reducing duplication. And there's two sorts of duplication. There's duplication between organisations that are involved in the system, between the funding body, the inspection body and their regulators, asking for the same piece of information multiple times. And the other part of duplication is the system asking for information from large employers that we have to produce anyway as FTSE 100 or 250 companies. So those are the two parts of duplication we wanted to look at. And the other thing we wanted to look at was really making sure that whatever the system asked for from employers, whether it was data, whether it was processes, truly led to a better experience for the apprentice, truly led to ensuring that the public purse was well served and wasn't simply a number crunching exercise. So those are the things we looked at and you'll have seen the outcome of the report. And we're certainly delighted to be part of the report. We're delighted to be involved in the outcome payments pilot, which I think is a huge step forward. And I think the Skills Funding Agency and National Apprenticeship Service should be really congratulated on taking the step to move to looking at outcome payments for large employers. And we're also delighted that we intend to be part of the group that will really look at the action plan and ensure the action plan is delivered over the coming months reporting back to the minister. The key for me in this though is I've applauded the Skills Funding Agency and applauded the National Apprenticeship Service already. Real simplification and real benefit only comes when all of the organisations, all of the parties involved in the system drive towards simplification and drive towards the lack of bureaucracy. And that's why it's particularly good that the Department for Business Innovation and Skills have that controlling piece to coordinate all parts of the system to make sure they continue to drive towards simplification. So Trevor asked earlier on whether we should be optimistic and I think the output of today is absolute optimism from our point of view. And we truly believe that if we can see the action plan seen through to completion then more employers will benefit from the experience of taking on young people and more young people will gain the benefit of being apprentices in this country.