 Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. When you said in 2005, so there was a time where you felt like I got to get back up on my, like early on you had a deal right with, and it wasn't a good deal. It was a horrible deal. Horrible deal. I'm not going to say it was a horrible deal. But it opened doors, people know you. That's all you say. I ain't going to say it was a horrible deal. Like, you know, for me it's just. You just signed the damn paper then you say. I ain't going to even say I just signed the paper, but I ain't going to say I just signed the paper. It was just more like I didn't understand the power I had. OK, OK, I can dig it. Because you constantly had somebody over you that knew you were going to have that power. Like, OK, QC in them, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Shout out QC. They tell a little baby, they tell a little baby, you that nigga, dawg, you got the power. You could go change everything. I had a nigga over me that didn't want me to know I had that power because he wanted that power. So if he seen me getting closer to that power, it's like, yo, shut them down. You're doing too much, man. You know what I'm saying? So you got to have, it's like everybody around me had a real OG around them. You know what I'm saying? You had, you know, even podcast sugar. You had a power. I had Jermaine. Fischl. Nellie had Kuda. Fischl. You know what I'm saying? I thought you would have worked with Jermaine. I don't know why in my mind. But see, Jermaine is crazy because Jermaine and the nigga I was working with hated each other. That's crazy. So it was like the niggas I wanted to fuck with, I couldn't even, because the blessings was already blocked because this nigga has so many problems already. You know what I'm saying? No, I get it. You roll with the people you roll with. So it's like, to me, I was young. I wasn't, at the time, I wasn't knowing all that. But growing up, I learned like, yo, why is Jermaine didn't really fuck with me like that? But we did the hard ball together, stuff like that. So shout out to Jermaine too. Shout out to Val. All of them like, I felt like there was things that could have been done to make that happen even more, but you know, you got two people that's from a whole different decade, because I think it's like the nigga I was with has stole a song or something from Jermaine back in the day or something. So it was going deeper and further than I was even, it was going deeper and further than I even had to do it. You got on this doing, man. You know, we so in control, but so out of control at the same time. It's really God. I keep hearing it, but everything you do is already, it's already been set up. It's already written, bro. You know, anytime, anytime I move, I tell, nothing's about questioning. It's just like it's already written because I always wanted to go, why didn't do this more? But then when you learn, then if you learn later, it's like, oh, they, they been had. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would have never happened. You know what I'm saying? I hear the stories even with Jermaine, the pre talk about when Puff got into it with Suga and he was, he was in the, you know, they was at his place and all this, you heard all these stories. They put you in the middle. They put you in the middle. Exactly. So it makes you like, damn, you know, like, you don't never know what's going on behind the scene. Right? You've seen that being that you've been, you've been around a long time. How hard, I mean, how, was it a depressing thing? Cause I've had people on here and I won't say the name cause I'm gonna let them leave. But that, that used to have it going on. And then all of a sudden, bam, they lose it, everything. Like, like nobody's checking for them no more. And I, wait a minute. And when I see them, they, they, you could tell that it's a depressive state that put them into where they can't figure it out. You know, it's easy to get stuck in that mode as an artist. You know, I just refuse to let myself get there. You know where I'm coming from, right? No, no, no. It's, I know exactly what you're saying. It's like, you be up for so long or you be in a great position, then things don't stop going the right, stop going the way you have it going. And it's like, you could see it in a dude, you could see it in their face. It's not the same. I think maybe for like, maybe like a year or two I might have had that. Maybe I remember feeling like that. I remember feeling like people could just look at you and feel like, damn, this nigga's not doing too well. You know what I'm saying? Mentally, because you just, but I don't feel like I just was trying to figure it out. You know what I'm saying? I was just trying to figure it out. But one thing I was always honest with myself. I'm like, yo, I ain't got this shit figured out yet. If I knew all the answers, I'd be, I'd be up. You still giving yourself room to grow. Yeah. And I always say that. Some people think they already arrived and all this other crazy stuff, you know? And they lose it because they can't really figure it out because you really were never where you needed to be no way. But in your mind, you thought you made it. Exactly. You know, it's so much more to it, man. It's a chemistry. I always tell people, the people that I've met in those rooms needed to be there. And you could tell they were supposed to be there. You see what I'm saying? Like the room don't operate the way that a lot of people would think from the outside looking in. Right. And that's how I feel like now it's like, I'm supposed to be in that room. Yeah. There it is. Like before if I had to question it, it's like y'all want to be in that room right now if I wasn't supposed to be in it. Yeah. I feel like, you know, it come a time where you know, okay, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101.