 Welcome back to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode 128 or 129 somewhere in there the next gen podcast talk Joining me right over here is mr. Eric Moore. Hello. Nice to have him back We are now streaming on to which so Our podcast is now going to be live on twitch every Monday at 8 p.m. Central Standard Time And then it will be re-uploaded to YouTube the next day So that's just how we're gonna do it now so YouTube will no longer have the live version It'll have the normal version that everybody else gets So because of that we are instead going to focus on Growing our twitch audience stream-wise and let YouTube kind of be YouTube We might stream occasionally over there at least I might with some other Talky talk streams or I might talk about why I'm switching to twitch because I haven't actually announced that to the YouTube audience But we're just going to keep this thing going and getting right into it And the first thing we start every single time the time of my podcast is what have we been playing lately and I've only one other person on the podcast so Eric Let's start with you. I am still playing Super Mario All-Stars Super Mario 64 I think I'm up to 95 stars now somewhere in that area So I'm Rapidly completing that game way faster than you know, I ever thought I would but That's going it's from there, and then it's going to It's going to be Sunshine after that probably Just work my way through the through the All-Stars game. Nice. I So is there anything else to be playing like anything in particular anything even dabbled in indie game? No, honestly, no, what about you were playing? What was it you were playing before? Are we were playing it? Chronicles would have no I Haven't played since we played it that Honestly that the fact that the multiplayer is so garbage in that kind of almost turned me off a little bit on to it Everyone I know the volume is low. It's to prevent echo. Sorry So, yeah, I What have I been playing lately? If you want want a higher volume guys, but you can rewatch this on YouTube tomorrow, I'll adjust all the volume So what have I been playing lately? I have been playing Kind of a mix of things I when I live from fortnight the other day So I kind of got back into that after a while and actually it's kind of interesting what they're doing a fortnight now They've they've got Marvel going on in it right now Oh, it's like you can go to Stark Industries and Iron Man is there and like there's robots You can kill and then take them over and like make them party your little army of dudes Yeah, and Iron Man kicks your ass Don't mess with Iron Man unless you're a pro. I ain't a pro But it's I actually think it's kind of cool. It's probably the most fun. I've had with fortnight in a couple years So I've been getting back into that. I know not everyone's in the fortnight But it is what it is. I've kind of set 3d all stars aside because I don't even know why I bought the game to be honest Maybe it's just because of the height and the nostalgia It's just like I don't replay games. I Just don't games. I've already played and beaten a bunch when I just don't go back and revisit them That's just not who I am You know a breath of the wild haven't touched that in like a year and a half like I just I Don't really I want a hundred percent it But then I kind of lost my motivation because like I already know all this stuff like if I'm gonna 100% And I should have did it on my first playthrough So then again, there was a master mode available right away. Yeah, there's a thing at Nintendo But I just I don't I gotta make your money somehow. Yeah I'm just not I'm not a person. I don't even know why I bought it kind of a waste of money to be honest not even buy it physically So it's not like I even have it as like a collector's item. I just don't have it But beyond that I I kind of looked at Some other games I've been playing a little bit of roller coaster tycoon 3 nice Still really fun. It's just as good as it was back in the day. It just still I was still on zoo tycoon instead But yeah bankers can't be choosers you get what you get. It's still really good Beyond that I did dabble in Some world of Warcraft Because I got the expansion pack which doesn't come out. No, it's delayed It was supposed to come out this month now. It's not coming out to like November Maybe but on the 13th, which I think is tomorrow They launched the new content patch that you can like get prepared for the next X pack So we'll see what happens with that. Well, the warcraft is still just as fun as it's always been But I almost appreciate it more now because it's definitely made for someone like me Who's only gonna dabble in it for like a couple hours a week. Yeah, oh and by the way folks I've been playing Madden 21 on my PC On this giant 49 inch wide monitor and I'm I can't be beaten now I'm literally the best PC United player in the world. So I Just did the second time for those listen to the audio So yeah, but I've been kind of dabbling in a lot of different games instead of like focusing on one Maybe it's just because I don't have a massive single-player game that I'm really focused in at the moment. That's probably why Because you know, I beat Luigi's Mansion 3 I did that like a month ago. Yeah, what you think of the ending? I like it. Yeah, I like it a lot I like the whole game. I think I guess I almost I don't know if I like it as much as the first I like it way more than Dark Moon The first game the thing about the first game that's always gonna stand out is the ghosts the ghosts have like Individualized like personality. There's a lot of variety not as much variety since then but Man the gameplay the story. I liked a lot about LM 3. So yeah It might be my favorite in like every aspect but the unique ghosts that existed in one So they can just like take those ghosts put them in three. I do kind of like the boss ghosts though Oh, they were great. They were phenomenal all the boss ghosts were great. Yeah So yeah, just I've been I've been dabbling in a lot of different games right now We're kind of like in between I'm kind of waiting for the like age of calamity. That's kind of like the game I'm waiting to come out right now and plus, you know, we have the next-gen platforms coming That we're gonna be talking about here next because I'm kind of waiting for those too. I Don't even know I'm gonna play first like cyber point 2077 it's coming out on like November 19th And I think Mark, you know guys that mark we were gonna show up all the podcast stuff He is like I guess buying me a copy for the Xbox series X It's nice. I have a series X and series S pre-ordered for some reason What? Yeah, the X is paid off. Okay The S has a hundred dollars down on it. Okay, so I don't know. Do you want an S there? Why well, do you have any of them pre-order? No, okay, would you like it? I mean I Wasn't planning on getting one, but I mean yes. Yeah um Which I mean if you don't have a 4k TV, you don't really need the X but Yeah, so I have that and then a PlayStation 5 which I have pre-ordered in Canada So that's gonna take an extra month to get to me what? Supposed the only place you could find it pretty much Shipping to get to me. So I don't even know if I'm gonna take that I'm kind of hoping that Walmart's gonna have some PlayStation 5 like there and I could just like wait over night or something So they're not gonna do midnight and I'll open at midnight Yeah, not anymore. Maybe they will for that. No, they're not gonna. No now for like five systems They might have if they even have five right, so I don't know. It's kind of a cluster F right now, but Speaking of the next gen stuff, I know you haven't been keeping that much up to date on next gen Because you just I don't know the point in life that you really have to care about it No, I know maybe maybe once you get back actually nuts. Yeah, like if you get in a bachelor pad You get some free time and you get your nice 4k, you know big plasma OLED TV Just rockin on the wall because you decided, you know what I'm a baller like that And I dropped three three thousand dollars on a kick-ass TV, right? So I think I can get that a 4k 4k not gaming experience NFL experience right who certain providers you can get a 4k NFL experience from Like when you get to that point, I Think that's when you're gonna be thinking about Maybe it's time for next-gen especially since yeah, so much stuff is crushing and I know right now gaming wise Kind of like switch or nothing for you right now. Yeah So let's let's first let's talk about like the PlayStation 5 I guess because that's the one that I think most people are interested in of the next-gen systems So I don't know if you know this with PlayStation 5. It's Technically less powerful than the series X that doesn't spread me Well, PlayStation 4 is more powerful than the Xbox one really yes, okay at launch Okay, Xbox one X is more powerful than the PlayStation 4 pro right, but it seems to be that Going back in the past though that if I remember correctly Xbox is generally tend to be more powerful than the PlayStation So how it's worked is the first Xbox is more powerful than everything at the time right Xbox 360 Technically was less powerful than the PlayStation 3 However, the PlayStation 3 used a really weird architecture like cell processors that nobody used and Like 360 was using PC parts So games looked better on the Xbox 360 like right up until like the last two years Those platforms were over like seven or eight years So I don't know market a long time So 360 games like even multi-platform games just look better until the last couple years when developers finally figured out how to use the dang PlayStation 3 stuff But technically it was more powerful and then PlayStation 4 was more powerful But Xbox was like focused on weird things at the time They had like was a dime matric in control. I think and he was like talking about oh, yeah We're gonna be your center for all media You can plug your cable box into us and watch your sports and we're gonna bring athletes on the stage to talk about the Sports TV experience at a time that cable TV by the way is going to the wayside right and people are getting their TV through streaming services I mean, I still have cable because cable TV finally responded and said hey we can keep you by making a dirt cheat No, no, thank you. That's the only way I'm gonna have cable. So thank you And it's nice to have be able to watch TV and not have to have my internet be active Although it's really weird because isn't it all through the same cable line get my internet will be open my TV will work Yeah, right. Yeah, I don't understand it. It is what it is because I get everything from the same provider But yeah, so that's so we enter this is the first gen in since the first Xbox where at launch the System is going to just be the best most powerful platform In terms of raw power faster clock speeds But see the thing is they're basically using the same parts But the Xbox series X has faster clock speeds on the GPU and CPU The PlayStation 5 has a faster SSD now technically they're using the same gen 4 PCIe SSD modules But the PlayStation 5 has a custom controller that's making them run at a much faster speed interesting So it's so in theory PlayStation 5 exclusives should have way faster load times than Xbox series X So PlayStation 5 has like an SSD advantage now We are hearing that they're only gonna have like 600 and this is like one of the bugaboos about these about these storage capacities So the Xbox Sorry, the PlayStation 5 comes with like 850 gigs or whatever they're advertising on the box But after you include the OS in it they have like 660 gigs available and next-gen games like you want modern Yeah, it's like 150 gigs. Yeah so You're gonna need an external Hard drive to do anything with it basically or be able to crunch down that game to absolutely nothing in like a zip file Some sort of something to compact that game down when you're not using it to save memory. Here's the bugaboo. Yeah You can't run games off external hard drives What you can run PlayStation 4 games off an external hard drive You can't run next-gen games off an external hard drive because they're not fast enough Okay, so you need to buy an M.2 Gen 4 PCIe SSD Expansion so what Sony is doing that's different than Xbox is they are allowing you to use virtually any Gen 4 PCIe M.2 Straight up PC Expansion drive so you can buy one of those that you would put on a motherboard and you can open up part of the PlayStation and Install it and get an extra terabyte to terabytes. Well, whatever the size limits are they have? And the thing is it's really expensive like there's been this knock on Microsoft because they announced their expansion With Seagate like for a one terabytes like two hundred and twenty dollars Which sounds really steep, but then when you actually look at the prices of M.2 PCIe Gen 4 SSDs Which is exactly what you have to buy for the PlayStation. They're just as expensive if not more expensive in some cases. So This is kind of like the big bug of the entire next generation is that these systems don't seem to ship with enough internal memory To play to play more than a handful of games right at most I mean there is a real argument like on the series s Which by the way, it's gonna be smaller on this the game's piles are gonna be smaller on the series s Yeah, because it doesn't run at 4k. Yeah, but reality is like there's like a real prevailing thought out there They're like you can get like three next-gen games with updates like I'm PlayStation 5 and then be done done Yeah And that's a real concern for some people that don't want to shell out another two hundred three hundred four hundred dollars They want two terabytes over and that's storage probably why the the Systems are the price that they are is because they they don't have the storage to they're planning on just making their money off the storage They're not planning on making the money off the systems I wonder how much money they're even gonna make off the storage because I'm sure I'm sure Sony's gonna sell Turn around and somehow sell Expansion cards. Well, they don't do expansion cards. It's literally them not to like it's a slot No, that's what I'm saying. They're gonna they're gonna sell cards. I'm almost you can use any PCI Yeah, you don't have to buy Sony branded ones you Some Sony people out there will buy Sony just because it's Sony well It's just like Nintendo has Nintendo branded micro SD cards We use any micro SD card, but I don't think that Sony's gonna make a ton. No Xbox. They theirs is proprietary so They're they're literally like using old school like, you know, you like you put a memory card in it's like that But it's clearly a freaking PCI you gem for hard, but it's like a custom form factor Now they're gonna make money off it, but I always wonder like if on their own They cost 200 to 250 dollars for an extra terabyte just to buy one for your computer then like How much money are they really making on these things when they're charging market value that everyone else is charging unless? This could be that this is something to consider that might be what market value is But maybe the profit margins are massive right on that market right So I don't know it's That that would be my guess Honestly is that they're they're planning to make their money on on storage versus The systems themselves. Yeah, I think I wish they would have my thing is I wish they would have included two terabytes Yeah Now you're not gonna get a full two terabytes right guys So you're gonna have a row S to consider and then SSDs need a space for redundancy If you don't have the space for redundancy they bog down and they just like stop running. It's not good You need the redundancy space Which is why by the way like if you look at the PlayStation 5 and they say 850 gigs It's actually a one terabyte drive in there but they are eliminating the space that you need for Redundancy so 150 gigs or so for redundancy then the OS on top When Xbox series X is advertising one terabyte to you That's because they actually included 1.2 terabytes and that 2 terabyte and 200 gigs there They're using for their redundancy giving you that full terabyte But then you get their OS on top of that to knock it down to 800 or whatever so it's I don't I That this is like the biggest bugaboo that really this entire next generation has for me PlayStation 5 xx series X even the series S They didn't include two terabytes when everything's all said and done It's about it would have been about 1.5 terabytes available in each one That that would have been funny. I feel right at least for starting out like most people can do that They can archive games that you cannot switch or whatever. Yeah, no one wants to redown 100 plus gigabytes which one thing I this is this is one aspect I'm not sure about on PlayStation 5 yet on Xbox series X you can offload your series X games To an external hard drive and then transfer them back in later to play So that's one way where like you can kind of use cheap storage. You don't have to re-download. Yeah Yeah, and 3.1 usb transfer fees are actually pretty fast, right? But but I'm pretty sure that Sony's gonna support that too I have a feeling if it hasn't been announced yet But then that leads me to my next question is is SSDs only have limited number of rights. I know it's it's quite a bit But and the gen 4 ones are even higher, but but if you're constantly offloading and reloading games How long is that gonna last you I mean not even that like just installing games period Updates every I mean every time you use the SSD and you write to it. Yeah, or read from it technically Like anytime you just use it And I've been wondering that too because like I have a I have an old-school SATA SSD that my computer runs off of and I know it's degrading and I know because I Wiped it and it's running slower than it was when I bought it by significant margins To the point that I need to start thinking about replacing it before I lose my data And like now I've had this for like four years And that's great, but is that does that mean like the lifespan of this is gonna be four years? Right because one thing that people are worried about this generation because of SSDs is Are we going to not be able to keep our games long haul? We've never had like we could fire up a PlayStation 3 so we could fire up an NES and play and still play games And I owe G Xbox still play games. Yeah, the hard drives fail fine They do fail, but you can easily replace them the memory on these platforms is literally Soldered on to the board. These aren't replaceable SSDs They're soldered on to the board Which means when they fail they fail and you have to buy a new system either you have to buy a new board or somehow if you're I Guess technically sound where you can peel it off and re solder something on there. Maybe But that's assuming that those chips are re solderable right right right right plus It's OS booted on it, right? No for sure But like I the fact that they said they soldered them on I thought was I get why they did it You want to maximize me speed to solder them on right, but if they had just went with like an installable m.2 When it dies you could just replace it like yeah, I'll still be expensive, but you could replace it You can copy your data and replace it. Yes, and potentially I Think one way that I feel like what the system we're gonna do long haul is Eventually they'll let you offload the OS and everything to the to the expansion drive on Xbox or the expansion m.2 on PlayStation 5 I think that is a workaround they could do that they're not gonna do now But say like two and a half three years of now if people notice slowed on with their SSDs I'm gonna hey look we we're offering this program now if you have an ex if you if you install the new m.2 Or you have one of those plug-and-play Xbox series X Memory modules like hey you can offload everything to that now, and maybe that's their way to combat it Yep, but you're also gonna have to then but then you're adding additional cost not just that but then you'd also have to Tell it to boot from your new mm your new hard drive, and that would be an update like that's the only way That that's that's the only way like Yeah, I find it interesting like Ram has been soldered on forever, right? And yeah, Ram Ram also it's flash it technically could run out to you But Ram is designed in a way where you can almost run that separate you like even the stuff that's you know When you have the plug plug and go sticks I mean people still have really old-school computers store running DDR2 Ram sticks Like yeah, like Ram sticks Ram last Hell of a long time. I mean heck the crap for the NES is soldered on and that's still right So like Ram Ram is less of an issue versus actual storage And I'm I am very concerned that the lifespan of these systems isn't gonna be much more than five or six years Now I know there's some people that run SSDs for like a decade But they might not care about the slowdown and they might not care like they're not playing games necessarily right and if it's competitive games online You need that speed So my only I think the only solution they really have is that they have to eventually let you offload the OS and everything Onto the extra drives that is one way to combat it. It's just an expensive way But I guess it's just it's akin to replacing your drive But the problem is with that then is are people gonna offload it before the drive fails Right, most people don't replace the hard drive till it fails. Right. Well. I mean once it fails is too late With it. It's gone So yeah, it's nothing to offload far as we know you can't download the OS online. So Huh, I don't know. It's a it's a little I'm sure I'm sure it was also a cost-saving measure to be honest Like what I always find interesting about the switch and no one talks about this The switches memory module is separate from the main motherboard So if it fails, okay replace it the problem is that that motherboard and that memory module are keyed So you can't plug in any other memory module with that board It has to be the same one. So it's kind of like the same problem Yeah, that's weird Even though it's separate. It doesn't really matter if they're treating it like it's not separate And right like at first I thought maybe that design was because they wanted to have it separate because eventually they were going to release bigger Like, you know go from 32 to 64 to 128 offer different sizes So they just created a one fits full and fits all-size board And then you know, but they never did that at least they haven't done it yet. Right. So I don't know it's it's It's kind of an issue with all three of them to be honest You know, we we haven't talked about this issue with switch because you can't offload your games to micro sd card and run right off the micro sd card But you know me so I guess people consider it less of an issue because of that But what's going to happen when they don't make switches anymore and you and all the memory modules inside the switches die Far as we know, you can't offload the os and running off the sd card either Yeah, it's not like it's not like back in the game boy Day where you just replace the battery in the game in the cartridge and you're basically back to being Good again. Yeah, like yeah, your memory is wiped. But yeah, he's you got to basically brand new game Yeah, I mean the switch is hacked. So it's not like you can't people could save their game files But running them natively on a switch once the memory module dies is going to be a problem It's going to be a problem. Um, I know that people can like You know try to get it to run off SSDs and run hacked firmware or stuff But like that's that's diving into a realm that We don't have to dive into with any other system You want to play xbox games go plug your xbox in and play them You know with the hard drive die plug a new hard drive in and you know You can literally get the you can still get the os install them at hard drive and still play OG xbox the way it was meant to be played same with the net the nest the playstation 1 You can go you don't have to hack these platforms to still play them today That's like the big thing with with these with all this flash and the superfast memory is that Eventually the switches the playstation 5 and the xbox series x and s The internal memory module is going to basically die one day and when that happens There is no way currently to replace those memory modules to play the system as it was originally built You you'll have to hack them and and hodgepodge things together And it's it's it's kind of It's a pain Right. It's a pain in the ass Um, and it is a concern for next gen um, but Yeah, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? We're we're getting the most expensive generation. We've ever had it's it's not a pc I mean as much as we want to say their game prices are going up to 70 bucks Oh, yeah, I mean, I knew this was coming at some point games haven't gone up in Long while I mean people people like 70. I'm like dude I remember back in the n64 and s day is paying like 120 bucks for a game like dude game prices We're all over the place growing up for me. Yeah in the 90s early 2000s We didn't have the set standard 60 dollar price So some games were 100 some games were 20 It was crazy all over the place. You can argue. What's that way now? Some games are 60 you can get an indie game for free Right, like it's all over the pricing scales all over the place now But like a dollar the top end 60 unless it's a collector's edition or yeah, okay. Well Yeah, but a lot of these 60 dollar games have dlc now have microtransactions by time You're all done playing the game you might have spent 200 hours anyways, right, right exactly So the price of games is going to go up eventually But I think what's upsetting some people is the price of games is going up But we know the practices aren't going to change So people will be like, oh, we'll pay 100 bucks for a game if it doesn't have dlc or microtransactions Oh, it's going to have dlc microtransactions either way Guarantee it. There's too much money in it. So like They're just charging you more money because they can yeah, absolutely You know like This is really weird too because we're in charge 70 bucks for games at a time when xbox is doing game streaming And making gaming cheaper than it's ever been Right So now the combat is oh if you are going to buy an individual game you got to pay more that well Geez that makes doesn't that drive people to subscription services? Right, right. I mean maybe maybe that's the way they're trying to to set up their streaming services in the future Like did you know this did you know this ea play is now part of xbox game pass? Yeah, yeah, I think you told me like day one you could like brand new ea games day one On game pass without paying any warden you already pay for game pass. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, so now you get all that They just bought Bethesda Wait, what? Wait, what they bought zenamax to be fair, which which this company that owns Bethesda. Yeah, so all the scrolls and all those games Yeah, what yeah, so all those damn. Yeah, so all those games 7.5 billion by the way Jesus All those games are going on the game pass too so like The more expensive this stuff comes the more like it's like you guys should almost go xbox or at least a pc or something that plays game pass because Yeah, so they're going to be able to afford a game next gen right Well, you know and i'm not sure to knock sony. It's not like this is just the reality of the situation They're going with cutting edge technology, which is really expensive and it's not going to get any cheaper anytime soon I mean to be fair sony is going against like Like a pc company. Let's let's face it microsoft is a pc first company But sony owns a market like like microsoft is so far behind Yeah, like they don't even care about how many systems they sell they want more people on game pass and xcloud right So like game pass has 10 million i think they said or maybe it's 12 million now subscribers They want to see that up to 30 40 50 right i mean because of the fact that they are a pc company Allows them the ability to not care to a certain extent because they have the mass audience of pc Yeah, and like They have the pc audience and then on top of that xcloud is like in beta on android right now And you could pair like game pass with xclouds and then you could start playing these games I don't even owning top of the line. It's a hardware So it's an interesting situation where microsoft has these next gen platforms And they're trying to do their best of them, but they also technically don't need them If it makes sense Uh, and then you have sony's like hey, we're just gonna do what we always do except right game prices are gonna go up by 10 bucks But we're just gonna keep doing what we always do and hey, we sell 100 million units every generation Why would we stop why would we stop doing what we always do people put up with it? Yep No, no for sure Like there's even a rumor out there that like like xbox might stop charging for xbox live Really Why did you get more people onto their platform to get subscribed to their other subscriptions? Yep, there's that look if we drop one of the three Why won't you come over to us now? You don't have to pay to play online Oh, and you might as well grab game pass while you're here because god damn It's the best deal in gaming and heck. Oh jeez You want to take that game and seamlessly transition it over to your phone while you might as well gets xcloud as well Boom now we have the nintendo switch because you could play your xbox games anywhere. Yep granted It's not gonna work as well Like even if you have 5g 5g connections are very unstable So like it's not gonna be that it's not gonna be seamless like like with switching You're gonna require internet and yeah, okay, but the point like it's it's the closest thing that's gonna get to switch Yeah, it doesn't Technically compete directly, but the point is that that's Microsoft's whole strategies Everyone can play our games and they can play them for really cheap Which gives us hundreds of millions of consumers And yeah, if you want if you want to own your games or if you want to play them on local hardware We offer that too and that's just an option in the xbox product stack rather than a you need to buy this to play our games Like no, you don't right. No, you don't you don't have to buy an xbox to play xbox games Like that's that's that's their future right now. They're right They are just spreading their net really wide and saying everyone come to us. We don't care what you play on Yep I mean, it's gonna be crazy if a day arrives. Can you imagine like in 2022 xcloud comes to switch Right To the next gen switch Like oh man, that would be crazy geez like Hello Why buy xbox at that point give me the damn switch? I'll just frickin play all my nintendo and xbox games there, man Damn, give me that xbox cloud and gamepad. Oh man, right right sick That'd be sick. That would be ridiculous Now, obviously there's limitations right now to what xbox is doing like their game pass right now Everything that you can play that's possibly on game pass Right now it can only be played on xbox systems The pc version of game pass doesn't have everything obviously the mobile version of game pass doesn't have everything But I think it's one of those things that it'll get there. Oh, yeah, it's gonna take time Yeah, it'll take time. It'll get there. It started as an xbox thing So it's gonna it's gonna get there over time Because you know, it's not like these games could just snap and be instantly ready on all these platforms Or will it are we gonna run into a nintendo online service? Run into a what? Nintendo online service. Well, we'll get you some NES games and some SNES games, but uh Hey, they gave us Mario 35 Well, there's that But you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I know it's Are we gonna is it gonna end up like that? Yeah, we'll get we'll get it to you when Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to see how that's handled and then like sony, you know One thing sony has going for them, you know, because we kind of talked about like some of the pitfalls of what they're doing with this next gen hardware I mean heck, you know, um, if you just want to look at just You know how they're handling the heat off these big things like do the PlayStation 5 is using liquid metal Did you ever think you'd see a console what using liquid metal to transfer heat to the heat sink? That's crazy. Yeah, they're using liquid metal And that's another thing liquid metal on a system usually only has a shelf life of like two years Before it gets hard and needs to be replaced. Yeah Yeah, like yeah, so then yeah, like it doesn't bother me. I'll take apart my system and like like well What happens if you use normal thermal paste on it like? Is it does it overheat? Is that why it uses liquid metal because the thermal paste doesn't conduct the heat good enough in the chief? Yeah, you know, I'm kind of do I downgrade my PlayStation 5 and launch and like Take off the liquid metal and put on normal thermal paste. Just to see what happens. Just to see what just to see what happens Right a whole thing Yeah, right The thing is like the PlayStation 5 runs hottest between the two systems despite lower clock speeds Um Supposedly that that's the report out there that it that it runs the hottest Like Despite lower clock speeds despite liquid metal heat transfer and despite a massive heat sink that's like this big Like in the biggest console of all time the system's like massive. It's like this. Yeah, it's huge. Good god like Despite you have the biggest console of all time in terms of actual size and weight And the biggest heat sink and liquid metal and blah blah like it still runs hotter than the series x Which is smaller more compact with higher clock speeds the smaller heat sink. Well, it looks like they were trying to design it around Keeping heat. No keep it. No keeping heat. Well, no, sorry xbox From what I was reading looks like they were designing it around making the heat be like The same throughout the whole entire system. Yeah So you don't have one hot spot versus, you know, you have one major hot spot and the rest of it kind of just is not very hot I mean from what I saw they had the split Split mother board they got the you know, like in a mass air chamber from what I was seeing I mean, it looks like it was designed to Cool Yeah, well, remember they had the red ring of death issue in the 360 right like Yeah, massive overheating problems. They don't ever want to see that happen again PlayStation 4 pro sounds like a freaking jet engine taken off So they're trying to like we want a good noise profile We want good heat dissipation and we want our hardware to last, you know, as long as the ssds are gonna last So they're not using liquid metal yet. They're coming in lower Lower temperatures are faster clock speeds and I think a lot of it's the design So I watched the teardowns right like the xbox teardowns have been out there forever Sony just posted the PlayStation 5 teardowns last week and like If you look at the teardowns, you can tell which company knows what the fuck they're doing when it comes to like air flow And which company has no goddamn idea like people when they watch that PlayStation 5 teardown like oh man Look at that massive heat sink man. Look at how awesome. Sony is anticipating heat And I'm like, okay, but the heat sinks over here the fans up here Yeah, okay Now for the fans air to escape because it's pulling it in from the vents in the back for the fans air to escape It's got vent holes up here and vent holes up here But the fan isn't facing up and down so it can't blow out both vent holes It can only blow out the vent hole the fan is facing which means the other vent hole is nothing but aesthetics Yeah So you have these little tiny vents like this for air to blow out you basically There is not equal air pressure. It can bring more air in than it can blow out at once Which is why it's hotter even though. Yeah, no that makes sense exactly like I literally saw it I posted on twitter and people were getting all pissed at me say you don't know what you're talking about I'm like, dude, I've been building PCs forever. I know how air flow freaking works. This is horrible design for air flow Like one of the worst console designs I have seen for air flow ever to have this massive fan But literally you're cutting off half of its ventilation to blow air out I and even then I'm not even sure if there was enough total ventilation compared to the intake Like if you the microsoft has all these holes in the back and then all these holes on top And they have holes on the bottom say massive intake and a giant fan at the top just basically There's blowing just blowing out like crazy. Like if you look at the top those holes are massive They didn't even they didn't even put dust filters in that's a whole not a thing when you talk about there's no dust filters Okay, that's like like that's great for air flow. Yeah, you also got to dust your fucking system Right, right, which whatever. I mean that doesn't bother me the average consumer might bother but I don't know You probably could just fit the can of air in the hole Right huge so like I knew the air flow was was an issue at the playstation 5 so that I mean granted That's probably why the liquid metal they want a maximum heat transfer like I guarantee you guys the size of that heat sink is like 50 percent of the heat dissipated from the system has nothing to do with the fan Because there's not air flowing over parts of the heat sink So That's why it runs hotter No, granted when we talk hotter the temperatures of these systems aren't anywhere close to delta Which delta is like where you have to worry about hardware failure. Yeah, I think they said 65c Was the max it was hitting or 66c was the max it was hitting with the playstation 5. That's not very hot I mean That's 149 degrees or whatever fair and I think it sounds hot But I mean god my my gpu, you know hits like freaking 87c under load Like it it's not that hot compared to gaming PCs So it's actually doing it like none of the other systems are going to have heat problems or overheating problems As far as we're aware, I'd like to see it tested out in arizona with 115 degree heat You know no ac right and then see what it can do when it doesn't have like in wisconsin Why would I have issue even in the summer? We run our air conditioner So like yeah, I want to see what it does in a real world situation where someone doesn't have ac They live in a high dry heat area or even maybe even you know down in the freaking equator where it's You know what heat like how's it gonna? Yeah, right? You know and and that's another thing that I I don't think has been discussed as well There's no dust filters and there's such big intake holes. What happens in high moisture air Yeah, I don't know that's you know on a lot of PCs We have filters that they don't necessarily give rid of all the moisture per se But a lot of the bigger moisture droplets that you can like feel in the air when it's really like you You don't get that in your pc because it's caught in the filter You know there's been times I've taken the filters out of my filters are kind of wet, but the inside is dry Yeah, and these don't have filters on so that's in a whole like that's a whole other like Have we seen testing conditions that deal with certain real-world situations that I personally am never going to run into But other people will yeah, I don't have humidifier in my bed and if you actually don't remember to blow your system out because You know most people don't most people don't and like another thing too Like I was thinking about this too on the xbox series x and the and the playstation 5 So like playstation 5 is kind of like bigger slits at the top going like this The playstation 5 is the bigger holes You know like cockroaches could fit through those pretty easy. Well, they they already fit through everything I was gonna say cockroaches are already in the other ones. Yeah, like but like One thing that that you don't see in PCs is cockroaches usually because they can't get past the filter right There's that so that's another thing too like have they ever thought that hey We could solve the cockroach problem if we just put filters on our all our intakes But we don't want to do an airflow put better fans in Right one thing I don't understand like these these consoles are so powerful Why don't they have a fair a fan at the intake and the outtake right? I mean it's not like we care. I mean the playstation 5 is massive You can't tell me they couldn't fit another fan in there like a little a little 70 millimeter down there going I mean, it's not like we care about power. We can power the crap You know what's gonna happen This this might be the first gen that it might make a difference if you buy one of those external fans that you connect to the Right Oh god Like I kept thinking like I don't know man Like I I don't know this is an interesting generation But the reason to still be excited about playstation 5 is the same reason to always be excited about it And that is games. Oh, yeah So at launch it's got one big exclusive game You can't get anywhere else unless you buy a playstation 5 and that is demon souls remake Looks really really good It's like the only game that actually looks next gen because pretty much all of the games across gen So nothing quite looks super next gen about this game But if you don't care about demon souls, I mean miles more alice is going to be on playstation 4 So you don't have to buy it buy a playstation 5 to play it All the other games that are on playstation 5 will be on playstation 4 even even the new horizon game Forbidden west that they had all this big stuff where it's going to be on playstation 4 And that used to be like a big fight like a year ago because xbox said hey Our game is going to be cross gen for at least a year or two and playstation is like, huh We're gonna have real exclusives. Okay. You have one The rest are cross gen Like okay, uh, there's going to be more like they've locked in exclusives for like final fantasy 15 or 16. Sorry 16 Um, you know, obviously Microsoft fire. Oh, you got final fantasy 16. Have you got Bethesda? Oh So uh microsoft's eventually going to have some nice, you know, quote-unquote exclusive because they'll also be on pc and xcloud um But yeah, it's going to be a fun. It's going to be a fun generation. This is before we even talk about switch pro Yeah, right like the like like I think at launch on xbox there's one game That's kind of sort of worth getting it for if you're really into it. I think I think they're getting uh gears tactics At launch for for xbox. Sorry. Oh, yeah, yeah, because gears is owned by them Well, right and I think like that's the one reason to get xbox But like none of the preview units have it yet. So like no one's really playing it to really know right Um And we'll get in some of the some of the other features here in a moment But I want I want to switch switch gears a little bit to switch pro So we'll just smoke this fire like switch pro everything's pointing to it coming next year whatever it is Like okay, so we kind of have some information on these next gen platforms What's this have to do to keep switch relevant enough? Like what's it have to do like in your mind you're thinking okay, they or you're gonna hand me an xbox series s cool. All right, well Damn, what does switch have to do to compete with that? Go what would you like it to do you have a switch? What would you like them to do to make switch better? To be more modern to be more modern. Yeah, I mean better life is always a big deal. So if you can get A Longer battery life eight ten hours. I mean that's gonna be a lot of battery But you know if you can get the the longer battery life for sure Um better screen obviously. I mean just I mean, I don't say you have to go up to 4k because that would be absolutely ridiculous Um to expect that and if you can do it fantastic Right if you can do it fantastic if you can't well, I'm not expecting that Um, but you know up up your graphics up your up your battery life and battery life is huge honestly Um for me because if I want to take it and go You know, I don't want to play I want to I want to take it and go I don't want to you know the three hour battery life. It's it's that's a good chunk of time But you know if I'm in a 13 hour car ride Three hours is only three hours I'm you know got it Three quarters of the time left to go without my switch unless I stop somewhere to or have you know the converter to charge it Or but on my shelf over there a product. I'm gonna review you have the hyper-rex battery extender He I Still don't know if I trust plugging anything that's not Nintendo into an end of the switch because it's I mean honestly With the breaking before it I don't trust anything I don't know I'll say this. I I don't believe because the company that says I don't believe a company that says joy con drift wasn't a wasn't an issue after they had a Already admitted joy con drift was an issue. That's a legal argument. They have to say it I realize that but no they have to say it while they come up with a real legal argument They had to throw something out there They had to respond when they don't have a response yet Like Nintendo's got to have time to be like, oh, yeah, it's an issue, but like we're we're fixing it. Don't worry about it or something Right Anyways, but yeah, sorry. I had to throw that dig in there. I love Nintendo, but come on joy con drift fake news. Yeah No, um honestly, I I'm just um I think that you know as long as they get rid of the bezels Goes a 1080p screen. Yes a fixed joy con drift, of course. Yes Um, so give us better joy cons of the better kickstand and then they just yes up the power some like make it So like we're at least getting 720p on our handheld I'm good. Like I I know I want like dlss 2.0. I want 4k. I want I want them to go Like balls to the wall go for it so we could get all of the next gen games on switch I just think we're not going to get that till 2022 2023. And yes, I realized by then we're going to be talking about, you know the playstation 5 pro and stuff like that, but I it's I just don't think that's nintendo it doesn't go along with nintendo's ml Then again nintendo has a new president shintura furakawa who's nothing like shintura awada And very much much could be like hey, i'm a business man. This switch thing's great. Why don't we ride this bad boy? Let's release a new switch every two to three years Let's just keep pumping this bad boy out and let's just keep me have an 100 million user base all the goddamn time And give them powerful hardware if they don't want to buy it everything still works in the og switch Who cares right you give them you give them just enough power to buy the new one but not The full full-fledged yep until the next one after that and then right backwards compatible with with the one that released before But not the og like right It's the phone model right and nintendo is perfectly set up to do the phone model Yes, yes there my thing is and i'm only going to say this once because maybe this is a crazy opinion No, i knew it probably is nintendo switch. I don't think nintendo has to do anything Yeah, yeah now you're probably not wrong if you want next gen third party support They have to do something right they have to but at the same point i did a poll recently on my channel That i'm gonna i'm gonna load that poll up on my own right now so i can get the exact figures i did a poll um And i asked people You know what sort of games do you play most often on your switch and i and i put up You know nintendo switch game exclusive games even if it's third party exclusives Uh triple a multi-platform games indie games or i don't own a switch Okay, only three percent of people say they they most often play triple a multi-platform games now This is out out of about six thousand seven thousand votes So not a small sample size bigger sample size and then it's going out there saying playstation 5 is 80 percent of next gen console sales when they pulled 511 people and only 74 of them prior to the next gen system So it's like such a small data set to be like oh, but this is what's happening in all of the united states It's like right 74 people. That's your that's your baseline Okay, i got more in this poll Okay, anyways, so not a small sample size 89 percent of people who responded in the poll said they primarily play nintendo such switch exclusive games And i think if you pulled the 100 percent of the switch audience if it was impossible to do that You would find the numbers would be probably 80 percent or higher that people primarily play Nintendo switch exclusive games So how important are third party games really to switch the triple a ones? Well indie games in my poll are one percent in front of there at four percent versus the three percent for multi-platform so like so like How important really is it that switch can get that triple a support? I want it But it's such a minuscule amount of the people that play switch it cares as long as nintendo get delivered in the goods Right like in 2021 if we get breath of the wild too, we get the a 35th anniversary collection We get metroid prime 4 Uh, you know, we get a pikmin 4, you know, we get a new mario kart You know, we get mario odyssey 2 like they're bringing to begin We're gonna get a new pokemon game next year too like wide like they don't have to do anything Yeah, because here's the thing no one wants to talk about this because everyone's like oh, Nintendo has to respond and tend to us to do this All right series x and playstation 5 release november 10th november 12 Tell me When I go take a shit. Can I play take those systems with me and play them? Yeah All right when I go on a trip in a car or on a bus on an airplane Can I take those systems with them playing technically if you want to argue you can put the other battery packs You could Good luck taking the playstation 5 Nick doing that you're gonna need a whole fucking bag just for the system You're gonna store that underneath the seat in front of you Like I don't know how the hell you're gonna even that's my carry on you're gonna have a cable running from your freaking The top thing down and you're gonna yell that for the flight attendants right like okay like that realistically realistically These platforms don't replace what the switch does like why are we not asking? What are these systems going to do to compete with switch microsoft has an answer they have xcloud That's their answer. We have xcloud. That's our way to compete with switch Why are we always asking why does switch have to compete with them switches on pace? No, I just did a video on this switch's current sales pace is set to outsell the playstation 4 The playstation 4 is looking like it's going to settle in at around 110 million units Switch is going to outsell that switches on pace to sell about 120 125 million We're talking nintendo switch began on pace to be the third best-selling platform in video game history Right behind the playstation 2 and the nintendo ds Why are we talking about nintendo having to upgrade their platform when most people are only buying it to play the exclusive games anyways? Yeah, I mean To be fair the platforms coming out don't replace it like what what's been the big talk about switch this whole gen It is the perfect companion platform to pc game like right like buy a playstation 5 You're not going to be getting ready your switch when a game comes out. You want to play on switch? You're going to play it Right not for sure But also to be fair one caveat with your poll It's all you are a majority nintendo Audience yeah, so you are going to have a little bit of skewing Just just to be fair To put that out there But yeah, no, I would agree your your majority are going to be probably playing Nintendo they bought it for nintendo exclusives yeah, like That's something like I always wanted like do they have to actually worry about it I want them to worry about it Do they I want them not necessarily will they maybe That that's that's the better question. Do they Probably not Will they that's the that's the bigger question like I sit there and I look at it You know we got the new nintendo 3ds right that was upgraded hardware And ended up overtaking and being the primary selling hardware Which is exactly what nintendo would want to happen if they released a switch Pro or whatever they'd want it to become the front running platform, but I think about that new nintendo 3ds and yes, it had better frame rates It had better this and it was noticeable in some games, especially like hybrid warriors legends very noticeable But honestly like they could have not released that and the 3ds sort of been fine. I feel yeah I I just like I want them to do something I think they will do something but even if it's not that big of an upgrade like I just Nintendo is kind of competing with themselves. Yeah, they don't really In a niche area you could argue. Oh, they have phones. I'm like, yeah, but like phones don't have physical games They don't come with control like physical controllers I mean, you know there are you can't easily dock them with their tv's I really have an apple tv you can but like you can't easily dock them with most tv's You have to download separate apps and different things. It's a streaming and it's not exactly the same They're doable, but it's a lot more work Yeah, it's where it works. The switch is like here's the dock. You set it up one time Just slap the switch in you don't have to like load an app up or stream or make sure internet networks working Or even have a wi-fi network to do it. It just works. You don't need internet to play games That's kind of like the big thing on your phone Why don't you hit airplane mode and see how many of your games are still playable? I'm going to go ahead and go do it right now Hit airplane mode on your phones and tell me how many of the games that you have downloaded are still usable So many of these games that even don't have online components to them still require a connection How do you think they're serving the ads? Oh, definitely. They don't want to run if they can't make money, right? So The switch isn't like that. You don't have to have internet and you can play 98 percent of the switch is library even if you never update the games You don't have to update the game to plan It'll tell you oh and updates available. You can just ignore it and play as long as it's not an online multiplayer game You can just ignore it and play it. Yeah So I just think that We don't give Nintendo enough credit for what they're doing with switch thinking that they need to respond I want them to yes, they don't have to The response is I would agree. Hey, you can't play any of these over there Hey, here's breath of the law too. You ain't playing that on the xbox and playstation or pc I mean, okay, you're playing on pc. Let's just be honest things are hacked You're gonna know it's gonna happen, but I'm just being like, you know, you guys know what I mean so I I think they're going to do something because they have a history now of doing something like the dsi the new 3ds Even the we many which was more of a backwards move than a forward smooth So they're going to do something, but I think these next-gen platforms Are Going in the direction of pc gaming but doing so in a way that has some weird caveats like the soldered on SSD That it's just strange now granted for the power you're getting you can't build a gaming pc even close They are taking massive losses on these systems to get them to us at the price whence they are but just It's a weird gen like it's going to feel great launch day Beyond some launch day bugs. There'll be some game crashes or whatever Um, it's going to feel night and day. It's going to it's going to feel like when I got this giant 49 inch monitor You you go from like my switch right now to an xbox series x on the tv It's going to be like holy crap like you you were looking earlier at some screenshots at mba 2k 21 Yeah, like I've seen the 4k trailer for that bad boy dude mba 2k 21 I mean my god There are moments that looks indextinguishable from watching an actual mba game right now great You can still tell because some of the motions aren't exactly it's not like they changed You know got the got the ai motions and also to be a little better. That'll improve over time But like just the visual aspects, you know, you're just looking at from afar Dude that looks like a fucking real game. You're right like no absolutely Yeah, there was there was plenty of like the one picture of staff that I saw coming from the game. It looks like stuff. I mean You're looking at these other games and it's you can definitely tell it's a game But if you're I mean honestly, yes, you can still tell it's a game But it it takes a lot longer a lot longer to look to distinguish Distinguish it like if you're if you're watching mba game and you flip over quick It'll take you a moment to be like, oh, wait. Oh, yes Yeah, right like yeah Because you still see like the symbols on the players or your control like you'll notice it's like it's just The visuals are are going to be such a huge like people Undermine that oh, I haven't seen anything that visually impressive Well because there hasn't been any reason to show anything visually impressive yet You know demon souls looks visually impressive Go look at the original demon souls and go look at the remake like holy crap. Is it a night and day difference? But like yeah, people haven't seen the big difference the big differences you're going to see at launch are going to be load times Really because now we're getting ssd load times. So load times are going to be super quick Um, you're finally going to probably see pc games start to take advantage of ssds because right now pc games don't take advantage of ssds Fun fact and this is something that We're going to see what happens There was a point that the new expansion pack for world of warcraft the shadowlands expansion pack was going to require an ssd This is world of warcraft that runs on potatoes It's going to require an ssd very good. They wanted to take advantage of the ssds speeds for load times Um, then they kind of backtracked. I said, oh Technically run it on an hdd, but it's not going to be that great So like it's going to be interesting because mine's installed on it because that fucking game It's like 200 fucking gigs at this point. That's what games like Yeah, like but then again, that's what modern warfare is almost up to so Yeah, welcome to 4k gaming and i'm not even gaming in 4k. Yeah, but But something decided some of the concerns There's some cool things through quick resume That we've seen on the xbox series x so we have not seen the playstation 5 ui yet Interesting. I don't even know this. We're a month out from launch. We have not seen the ui We've actually seen a playstation 5 booted up and showing much of anything We saw some japanese youtubers like unbox it But that's it and that's like pretty much it I think we haven't seen Like how are we a month out from launch if we haven't seen someone Turn on a playstation 5 and start a game That is a little concerning like not gonna lie. We're a month out It is the the time of this this podcast being done is on the 12th of october One month from now the playstation 5 is out and we have yet to see someone boot up a goddamn playstation 5 Not even sony boot up a playstation 5 and launch into a game And yeah xbox series x we've not only seen it We have media members with it showing off the ui and showing off the quick resume feature Which is a big selling point for the xbox series x that you cannot do Even on pc hardware really like you can alt tab out of games But our PCs are not designed for this shit like if your computer slows way the hell down It's not good. Yeah, but the series x and the s both have quick resume And like you like I think it's up to six xbox 360 games or like three next gen games I don't know how many indie games got it could probably be like a freaking 20 indie games Yeah, anyways quick resume was like exit out of the game kind of like you do a switch Hey hit the home button, you know, yeah, and then you load up a new game Well, the last game is still there loaded in the background and yeah in the memory And then like so you're playing this one game. Oh you want to go over switch back to it Quick resume takes like a few seconds. You're right back in the game where you left off Hmm Like an amazing feature Yeah, and so you like if you're someone like me that gets frenetic like in streams You guys have seen me in streams of like I'll be playing fortnite Then I want to play some tune then I want to play but imagine like I don't have to wait several minutes to get those games going Right, you just a few seconds switch a few seconds switch like oh, I'm tired of playing this Let me switch over this guy switch over to mba2k and do like I could literally do a stream Where I play a bunch of games and I have all this wasted time, you know waiting for games to load Like it's a it's great, you know, it's great. I I just Yeah, it's something that I've never considered Never really truly considered Something that I would care about but I'm starting to feel like This is a really killer feature for next gen Yep, great. Maybe it kills the ssd Yeah, that's also possible That's also doing it on the ssd if they're doing it in the ramp. I have no idea, but yeah, it's pretty cool yeah, that's That could be interesting to find out little do we know that the ssd is only in the last year and a half Yeah, it's I don't know man But like to say like it's easy to bring up all these negatives like I'm trying to think of like give me some positives What are some positives of next gen? Right now, I mean graphics Well, I mean, obviously graphics are gonna be insane. I that's with harbor that's not even out to the public yet Right, right. We're not talking about like like it's literally using The next gen rising which comes out november 5th and then it's using Rdna2 which hasn't even been unveiled by amd yet So like it's using some cutting-edge shit. Yeah, so visually once they start to actually tap into it Right. So quite question again. Um, I saw ps5 Do 8k is that possible on the 4 to quote 8k is that possible on the xbox? Yes, the series x and the ps5 both support 8k. Okay. I think the idea though You're not gonna see a game at 8k, right? I think I think I think it's more so like if someone wants to play a movie at 8k Oh, and they happen to have the cutting edge 8k technology, which is super expensive for tv's Right, you could do it. I don't know because we're told there are only 4k blue red players I don't even know what you need to play an 8k movie Like I don't think it's possible to do with streaming. I don't think streaming is quick enough Yeah, you can do 4k netflix in streaming, right? Which by the way on my 4k tv. I have on my wall over here Looks fucking phenomenal. Yeah, I'm surprised how amazing for like I wouldn't think I didn't think it was gonna make a difference Also, I watch what like any netflix made show is it has a 4k option like Holy crap. I didn't think I was gonna notice a difference. I notice a massive difference I I'm shocked and it would be and apparently it's even better with 4k blue red, which I haven't even tried out yet um So like I don't even know what you need To actually play a movie at 8k. Yeah, I don't know. That's yeah, but like there isn't gonna be any games that support it Right, right. There's no I just I just happen to see it No, because that was one big thing that was on sony's website with the thing it was 8k and like That's what was one thing you noticed like you were mentioning before that Most of us don't even have the televisions that take advantage. Yeah Yeah, um section systems. Yeah, I can't remember. What was that? um the 4k and the and the stuff that These guys have a lot of the modern tv's don't have it like the the power to the frame rate the um The 4k itself. I mean, yeah, there's 4k tv's out there, but the frame rate mainly well a 4k adoption rate has been a lot slower But that's because people have these 1080p panels that we spent all this money on a long time ago Right and like they still work really good. Yeah like technology got so good that the tv's these aren't crt's They don't dying right as quickly, but it is true when people do buy a new tv It's like something like 80 of the time they buy 4k because you can get 4k for under 300 at walmart, right, but Caveat is you might get it for under 300, but you're only going to get 60 hertz if you're lucky Yeah, um, and you're only going to get so you're going to get 60 hertz and then you're going to Probably not get hdr at all Um, and you know, you're not going to get something like you know really good ms response time Which is important for for a controller lag and then on top of that variable refresh rate Makes gameplay so much smoother Yeah, most tv's don't offer variable refresh rate. Yeah, this is why some people said oh, I'm going to plug my next System into a monitor. Yeah, like there's there's a theory that even though like I this ultra wide There's a theory that even though this ultra wide isn't 4k and it's only 1080p That in theory the games will run smoother on this monitor and they ever would on this 4k tv Yeah, I want that that's pretty crazy But yeah, no they said like the to take the full advantage of the systems You almost need the top of the line brand new tv's that are coming out for 4k And and stuff like that. So that's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's nuts to actually fully Use the power of the systems I guess the idea is as as the systems age and people get newer tv's that they'll eventually be cheaper to get some of this stuff And then it'll be like, oh man, my system looks even better The thing is there's already people that can't tell the difference from 1080p to 4k And I always think they're nuts that they can't tell the difference But you know what some people just don't care Or their vision just is that blurry that they just it doesn't really make a difference How clearly you make it because they're still have blurry vision. So who gives a shit? No, there's that possibility too So but like I notice the difference Like I could tell that this is a 1080p monitor and this is a 4k monitor I could easily tell like looking at you I went up there to try to fix it to make make it so you weren't so you were like more in focus And like that's because on my 1080p right here. You look a little blurry, but then I look at me So do I yeah look over here Crystal clear, yeah, right. So like yeah, I can tell I can see it just even from the angle here And this is a smaller monitor than this one right But it's so much clearer that like the pixels are way more blown up than on here Like it's so much more condensed, right, but 144 hertz 30, right So like there's a trade-off here here. I'm gonna get much smoother gameplay here. I'll get crisper gameplay It's right, right And I feel like that's what's happening with TVs right now smoother gameplay versus crisper Like a lot of TVs don't even have 120 hertz, which these systems go up to Well, and then just not only be that they have it. It's do they have the The hardware behind it to actually run at that. Yeah, there's TVs that advertise it, but then they only hit like 100 hertz Yeah, there's actually monitors. Um, this monitor does actually hit 144 But I was reading there's a similar monitor to this uh by samsung because the samsung is curved I don't know why the samsung must be the exclusive makers of curved panels or something Because I swear every curved panel is a samsung Um But there was another model of this that I'm glad yulia didn't pick up because apparently it advertises at 144 But you can't get it to run past 120 That's even though it advertises 144 because the panel supports 144 But the board and stuff behind it can't quite get to it. Yeah, right So it's like oh, they can advertise technically the panel passes. Yes But you can't actually get there So let's false advertising, but they get away with it. But it's not because it's not technically because you're saying the panels panels 144 hertz capable If you're reading them, it's capable, but it's never gonna get there. You see the asterisk that says panel not Not running at course it doesn't say that on the box. No, no, that's in the manual That's the asterisk section that they put the footnotes and tiny tiny print. Yeah, it's it's just it's nuts. Um But hey, you know what it's all right. I think that um In general, it's been, uh, I'm just like I don't know, man There's a lot like the visuals are obviously the big thing. Yeah, you know, that's why anyone usually gets next gen is because they want prettier games To me, I'm more excited not about the 4k I'm excited about the games that are going to take advantage of the of the 120 hertz Like I don't even know. Yeah, I gotta see if this tv can do 120 I don't think it can but like I'm I'm really excited about the idea of finally being able to play console games above 60 Now granted We haven't even consistently got console games at 60 Well, there's that but like if someone wants to target 1440p on a PlayStation 5 and an xbox series x and focus more on hitting 100 plus fps Fuck yeah, that's a sweet spot for next gen for me. Yeah, like you give me the next call of duty at 100 plus fps on a console Yeah, I'll take that over 4k any day. Yeah any day Like a ray tracing. Fuck that turn ray tracing off. Give me that 100 plus fps Like realistic lighting. That's great. But if it costs me 50 fps, fuck you I'd rather take the fb. Like people are starting to realize now Like as pc gaming hardware is becoming more affordable How like thank you amd for making it more affordable. Yeah Like now this is becoming more affordable They're starting to realize that like higher frame rates are actually kind of a big deal Like pc gamers have been saying this forever Like oh, we'll gladly turn on our pc settings to get, you know, 75 100 plus fps Whereas I was like, oh if you're a pc gamer, you must max out ultra everything. I'm like, no because you have shitty frame rates You balance your settings for good frame rates versus good visuals and depends on the game, of course Yeah, you know, you might have a game where a frame rate doesn't matter as much um, but yeah, it's I'm really excited just to see multiplayer games with a higher frame rate On these platforms. I'm also Like I'm waiting for the game that takes my breath away like demon souls Looks really good, but it doesn't take my breath away. Maybe it's just the art direction because it's more of a gloomier art direction You know, if you ever play a demon souls or dark souls game, it's more of a gloomier direction Yeah, so like it looks really really good, but it's also okay. It's not bright sunshiny and wide open worlds Am I basically just waiting for elder scroll six? When you walk out and see that like, you know, I'm like breath of the wild breath of the wild 4k It's like, okay, it kind of takes your breath away. But then again I've seen games that look better Like so imagine like a game that's like the top tier of visual perfection But in that walking out on the cliff and just seeing all that And knowing that I can go anywhere. Yeah, like that's going to take my breath away When I when I walk out of a world like that and I'm like, am I looking over the fucking rainforest? Right. Yeah, like holy fucking shit. Right, right for sure Like that I'm waiting for that moment and we haven't had that yet We haven't had that yet Now that moment's going to come. I I don't know who's going to provide it first Sony seems to usually be the one that provides those moments the last of us You know horizon zero dawn You know, nintendo did it pull it off a breath of the wild. Yes With the art style is just perfect. No, I am for sure But um, you know to see it with a with a different art style or a more realistic style Something that just takes my breath away It's going to happen Maybe it's fable. There's a new fable game me and worked on. I have no idea. Yep. Um So we'll see That's what I'm waiting for. I'm still going to own these systems. I'm a tech head So I happen to be able to afford them this time around so I'm going to get them this time around I don't always get system at launch, but I'm going to get them this time around. I'm going to play around with them I'm going to have game pass. I'm going to you know, get some games on the I'll probably end up with dark with demon souls Um, just because you know, I want something that's actually exclusive to next gen to show off and talk about on the channel Um, holodex Like I oh, this is a weird thing with playstation 5. So playstation vr is compatible. Yes with playstation 5. I did see that Of course it is But but there are there's a playstation 5 camera But the playstation vr is not compatible with that. You must use a playstation 4 camera What so we have better technology, but you can't use it But you must buy playstation 4 4 stuff to use it on the playstation 5 Instead of the playstation 5 stuff even though there's not a playstation 5 version of the vr yet But I don't It's just a weird thing these companies do but it's a weird gen. It's a weird generation All I can say it's it's just a weird generation. Well, yeah, I mean the fact that uh, Sony doesn't even own the trademark for ps5 in india. There's also that They're going to elaborate on that one. Yeah, uh, um, so apparently some guy in india I This was on android. What was the let me credit this For where I saw it at least android central. Um, yeah, legit. They're a good size. Yep Sony faces new setback in india. It doesn't own the trademark for ps5 um I probably will butcher the name, but it's hitesh a swani out of deli three months before sony got the idea to, uh Purchase the trademark for ps5. Uh, he bought it My biggest question to unate is Why in the flying hell does sony not own The trademarks for like ps1 through x I mean if I was sony, I would buy a playstation 6 7 8 9 10 I'd go up with your 20 and just right. I mean I like what's the worst you'd let them expire at some day Don't use them and and I also made the by the way trademarks are not that expensive guys I would also argue that you're gonna pay less over the years Then you are gonna pay to purchase it from somebody. I mean, yeah, they're gonna have to buy the trademark from them He's not gonna hand it over. No, it's kind of like patent rolls except this person is a trademark troll, but I think trademark trolls are fantastic because Um, I love I love when they do this because it's on the company for screwing up Yeah, and how is sony knowing that you're gonna be everyone knows gonna be called a playstation 5, right? There's like the next one guess what it's gonna be a playstation 6 probably So at this point it'd be smart on sony to buy the trademark for ps6 Actually, Nate, let's go see if the PS6 is out there Yeah, let's go buy it. Let's go buy it Like I like I always thought it was funny because you know, I have the name nintendo prime like People was like what what happens if like like switch You know changes their online service to the nintendo prime online service I'm like, well, I just shoot up in the search rankings. That's what happened right and then nintendo probably sent a cease and assist to me For some reason although you had the name first. Yeah Yeah, it I'm not I'm not actually that worried about it, but all right. I could always change it to ninty I'd still show up in the search engine though. So right thanks nintendo Please please use nintendo prime and a branding somewhere. Yeah, right. I will love it Right. I will love to get all of the all the nintendo fans thinking i'm legit I already get people that think like I work for nintendo I don't know. I'm like the quality of my videos shouldn't tell you I work for nintendo. I mean come on Let's just be honest I I enjoy my content and I do I do uh do Occasional videos that have a crap load of editing that are really good Uh, but man, that's not that's not an everyday thing I was talking to eric about this like if the channel got big enough I'd hire him as an editor or something just so I could have someone else make my videos look nice Right because I don't have the time Otherwise my videos would look nicer. Also, let's also point out the fact that We're not shy about swearing on this channel and I'm pretty sure if uh, this wasn't actually nintendo sanctioned his channel We would not be allowed to swear Pretty sure I would have fired. Yeah, probably long ass fucking time. Yeah, probably Doesn't matter. We do our own thing here nintendo prime. 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