 You might need a theme song for your shit jumpers out Hey, this is a very special episode of new Jack thriller city man I'm over here with three of the best guys I know Kings of Comedy in their own right man. You didn't seen them on comic view. You didn't seen them on deaf comedy Jam Martin Lawrence first amendment and My favorite show and I'm featured on there myself the yeah, we talk like this podcast man Steve Brown Marvin Hunter and laugh love Come on man the cast of yeah, we talk like this podcast. Let's go And special shout out to my DJ, you know one of the best DJs in land DJ was a Craig aka DJ. I am somebody Let's get it. Let's get it. You good over there. All right, cool. Let's get it. Let's get it man Yo, man, so I'm gonna start off with you lab. Hey, let's talk about how you get started in comedy, man Where does it what does it even come from? Well, you know, I was in the military. So I started doing counter. I was in the military in the military Yeah, I was in the army and I used to I'm one of these dudes I started it with it when they say I got it at the mud So I used to every Thursday I used to when I decided what to do comedy just like every comedy You know, you've been told you funny your whole life So I used to drive three hours every Thursday night to do amateur night in Houston, Texas Then drive three hours back to Kaleen, Texas and be up at five o'clock in the morning to go to work So that's that's how I started. So there's there's it's not a Comedy circuit in the military. That's not what you're saying. No, I ain't no comedy circuit It's a work circuit Again, your ass get there How have you gonna get there and you try to do that whenever you got free time to do it and like What made you know that you wanted to do that even while you was enlisted? For me if I keep it all the way one hundred I was watching Def Jam one night and it was a dude on there and I was like, I'm funnier than him But then this little voice went off in my head. So yeah, you might think you funny to him But he on TV and your ass sit on the couch And so that was like true true then the little voice was like y'all so what you gonna do You're gonna keep sitting on the couch, but you're gonna try to take this nigga spot So I was like, yeah, you think you get off the couch and that's how I started the next That was like on a that was on a Friday Def Jam came on on Friday night that next week on that next week I was calling around trying to figure out how I supposed to do it what I supposed to do I was at the time. I was dating Princess Ivory. She was on the radio Princess Ivory and Samora had just came in town to do Interviews so she shot me some more as number and some more I call some more This is at the time some more like a queen of comedy. She that chick But she picked up the phone and she gave me the Instruction of handbook on how to do it what I supposed to do to open my sense. She told me everything She know me from a can of paint and she was there. So forever Mo some more will forever be golden in my book no matter what Hold on. Wait, wait perfect stranger. Perfect straight. You are yes She never knew me and I just like y'all got your number from a girl Princess Yeah, the radio station. So then oh, okay, so you had a reference. Yeah, a great reference Okay, cuz more than witness the motherfucker called me cuz my My shit with my number was placed on some bull shit Yeah, we're leaving the podcast one night. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, somebody random called you randomly Yeah, and I had asked y'all to y'all never heard of this nigga named such and such and such for well for our Love and I can't remember the motherfucker back by accident By the curiosity Professionally though. Yes So hey man Like some more talk to me. So I can't be mad at somebody randomly calling you That's why I love this story. Yeah, I can't I can't be mad at them. I mean my thing is you got to get your no That's that's my rule. Get the no make somebody tell you no Don't assume they gonna tell you no always get your no, but you came through a good nigga Hey Princess ivory. Yeah, I shout out the princess ivory man. But at the time she wasn't a good nigga, but I Ain't ain't tell you how that ended No, you came One of them dating horror stories We was dating long enough to wear I got out the military came back home I came back. I'm like y'all so I'm gonna be back in two weeks. What's up? She's like, oh Yeah, I don't know where we gonna be, you know, I'm having conflict like how you have a conflict They can come to find out. She had moved a nigga That's conflict. That's definitely conflict. That's a conflict of interest That's a conflict of interest. Yes. I think it was pre-fact. Yeah Already there God damn you you wouldn't you wouldn't try to give her none of that goddamn all but the benefits Thank you. I'll get right get out the military. What no benefits to be had. No, she wasn't gonna benefit No, she won't benefit at all, but Everybody got they they little mission to live and everything right there. Let it go. They work out God put your people in your life for a Yeah, and I would have never made the connection with some more if it wasn't for her So I never gonna be mad at her because she connected me to some more So I'm not mad. That's why I'm not bitter about the situation because I still I got some out the relationship You know I'm saying then that's you got to grow from a relationship. I grew a career sprung from the relationship Hey, do you still hear about her on the circuit now? Not on a regular basis, but we friends we interact on social media every now and then, you know, I know She'd know you a asshole. Oh, yeah So but I matter I'm not the whole the grudge type nigga like that I'm more to say it put it out there and be done with it. Mm-hmm. I'm that type of dude. Yeah. Yeah, wow Move the nigga in We had you last seen her before you made this phone go It had been like four months because I was I was living in Arizona Super tripping Yeah When you're in the military that's that's the life of day somebody military You can be in the military get station overseas for two years. So that's just that's just the reality of life Don't if you date somebody in the military, you got to be prepared to deal with being away from them for extended periods of time I'm so glad I went AWOL Hey, let's let's slide right over the steve, man I didn't even know that you you was in the military. I went in the military. I'm just talking to you Salvation army I went in as a E5 and left that bitch as an E I didn't even get it listed that's that's the E I went. So yeah, yeah Got you man. So how does comedy even start for you, bro? Man, listen, I was a In at my college still been college in Tuscaloosa, Alabama I was hosting, you know step shows and talent shows and all that And Rick you know, you can even do that. You got a you you going too fast for me, dude I was always, you know, I always thought I was funny I was going and just just always in the shit and you know, I just started just no try my hand at Just doing just crazy shit. I was always a life of the party So, you know, when I went to college, that was my thing, you know hosting shows step shows Talent shows so this particular talent show Ricky smiley was the headliner and he saw me hosting And he's like man, you know what you ought to start doing comedy you ought to try I'm like, okay cool and he gave me his number I called him he picked right up and and there it began to took me on the road But I had to pay my dues because I was at that time I was working for this place called Toyota rental car and my boss believed in my crazy dream He would let me get the cars for free, but I'll be escorting asses all over the country I had to drive and we'll be in the Oklahoma Cal. I mean, I'm the driver So and getting working for absolutely free. So, you know, you absolutely free So, you know, I'm sorry. They were helping me pay for the gas, of course, but you know, they were helping Yes, they they pimped the shit out of me. They pimped the shit out of me. But you know, the thing is man I Learned a van bless a nigga dry your own car. So so so yeah, I did that man. And um, you know, I got my name out there The new game believe I got pimped like that, but I did and but it worked out man And you know, I got my name out there and bam here I am. So So like what's the night that you first went on stage and you was like, you know, what? This is how I'm gonna survive This is my calling. This is my purpose. What's that? But what's that? What's that like to click on man? You know what when you do because you know coming up as an up-and-coming comic You always inconsistent, but when you get that that first real killer show you like, okay, bitch This is it. This is it. This is the one so, you know, that happening and that like immediately clicked on like, you know What I can do this so, you know from there though. There it is. Mm-hmm. You remember what that show was Man, dude, I've been doing it so long I don't even remember I really don't but I all I know is that I remember when the Like clicked on I was like because I think I damn that had a standing no and I ain't even had that many jokes I did a lot of physical comedy at the time You know I'm saying so, you know when the people like them just lost up like damn I'm the man, you know, and I wouldn't really doing by like five to seven minutes because you know Ricky them had all the time and all that so I was like shit. I can do this So from there though, and I was like man, let me I was hungry ever since Hold on that now. You got five to seven minutes five to seven you being a physical comedian What's the most physicalist thing that you were doing? Physicalist, physicalist, physicalist, physicalist. You know what man? I did this. I did something and while standing there I hit a back tuck, a back tuck. Yeah, a back flip, I don't want to say. Yeah, you should have said a back flip. Yeah. Yeah, that ain't really a sound right. No, they got tucked. I really did. Hey, hey, we live in Atlanta. Stop saying you tuck. Stop saying you tuck. Shut up. I had a back flip. Thank you, Marvin. Appreciate it. You get a back tuck. Yeah, it's called a back flip. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, if you ain't got to describe it, these niggas ain't going to tell you. I'm glad you did that. I didn't think I had myself in the book and had my head still back tucked. So yes, but I did, man. And then it worked out, man. Was the duct tape involved in this? No, it was a back tuck, man. And the niggas caught me. But yeah, man, that's where it was, dawg. And from that moment on, I was like, yeah, I got this. Damn, you use a hell of a fucking opener. Yeah, man. Them niggas ain't giving a damn about me, man. They just let me do my thing because I was the driver. Right. So he's like, man, let me do it. They wouldn't intimidate everybody at all. In other words, they wouldn't intimidate it at all. Like, this nigga the driver, just going to give him a little time, man. He going to hit you on the tuck. Then you're going to sign this thing. Turn that. He's going to hit you on the tuck. Hey, nigga, turn your flip and get the hell out of him. No! Hey, you know how veteran comics mean? Yeah. He like, nigga, I'm a comedian like nigga, you a tumbler. Yeah. I'm not a fucking comedian. No, a tumbler slash driver, nigga. You the Dominique Dawes, man. You better bring it on. No, you bring it. No, you bring it. Bring it on. You got served, nigga. Holy shit. Okay, Marvin, we, we, we right up to you, man. Like, how does it start, man? Where are you? I ain't never had no aspirations to be no comic. I was funny, always funny, but the way I got into it, I was married and fuck ass, hell, it took everything when I got divorced, right? So, so when you ain't got nothing, you get bored. So they moved me back in the barracks. I was in the military too. They moved back in the barracks and I was in the room with a guy named Clay Miles, comedian Clay Miles. He's still a comedian right now. And then he was taking me around to open mics and I was watching them bomb back and forth. Just everybody was horrible. And I was like, I can do that. I have them laughing in the barracks. I can do that. And then I went up there, man. You know, the first time I went there, I put my name on the list and he called my name out here in the back, cause I was scared. Then I came back that next week, put my name on the list, he called my name out here in the back, cause I was scared. And then the third time I went there, he said, man, you wasted my fucking time. Yeah, you gonna do it. I said, all right, I'm gonna do it. And then I got up there, got that first laugh. Like I hit a dope, man. Chasing it ever since. Damn. That's crazy, man. I wish I had a hit in the back when the niggas asked me to drive. Yeah! But I definitely understand what you said with the driving back and forth, you know what I'm saying? Cause when I got to South Carolina, I used to have to drive from Charleston to Columbia. I went and had two hours one way due to do the open mic, then drive back and get ready for PT. So, you know, niggas say pay dues. We did, I think. Hold on, so, Marv, you understood his drive, but you didn't understand mine. Oh, no, you're a little different. Cause you back tuck it and tuck back. All over the country. That's a lot of stuff going on there. And they made you, like, they put in on gas for you. They put in on gas. Yeah, yeah, you like used to, it wasn't enough that you was driving. You know what, man, stop bringing it up. I'm gonna get mad at them niggas, man. Them niggas got me. They got me in the name of comedy. They got me. Word, word, word. So at that particular time, what's some comedians that y'all looked up to and that y'all thought was dope? You know what, my first comedian that I really thought was dope, believe it or not. I saw DEL, I saw Bernie, but I think I was in Birmingham, Alabama and Sherman Golden was the opener. And Sherman like killed and I was like, man, I want to be a comedian. I mean, I don't, and they were big names back then. Sherman was the, I guess he was the first one out, but he really killed it. And I'm like, no, I was really impressed with Sherman. And I was like, man, I, you know, so I give a lot of credit to him, you know? Sherman is amazing. Sherman is amazing, dog. But before I started doing comedy, the first comedian I ever saw, and I was like, wow, I saw Eddie Murphy's raw. I just was, I mean, what delirious, I'm sorry. And I was blown away. I was like, wow, this is what it could be. And then, but then when I started doing comedy, the comic that set the tone, it showed me like, this is what you need to be. It's earthquake. Earthquake, I, earthquake pound for pound is one of the best stand-up comedians I've ever seen in my life. And I just, what I've seen him do to a crowd and wreck shop at a club, I never seen nobody do it before. And so when I first started doing comedy back in Atlanta, he still owned the comedy clubs because it was earthquakes uptown comedy corner. And Quake used to still come through and host. I've literally seen comedian headliners destroy a club. I'm like, ooh, ain't nothing left in that room. Then Quake come up and shake that mug apart. I'm like, ooh, yeah, it's another level to it. And that's, so that's like, mom, say that hit a dope. Seeing Quake, that's the level I'm searching for my whole career. I'm trying to get to where Quake was at when I've seen Quake do the role to this day. I still ain't never seen nobody do what I've seen Quake do. And I've seen comedians, monster rooms. But what I've seen Quake do, I ain't seen that like it. I ain't never seen that like it. Marvin. Now, for me, I started doing comedy in Hawaii. So it was a little different. One, no Quakes and Sherman and them over there. So I was admiring local people that was there, but one of the guys that was there was in the military with me. It's Camille and Big Mo Dixon. And he stays in Columbia, South Carolina. And he's trippin' that. Yeah, all of us was. What? Big Mo Dixon. He's strippin'. Hey, he ain't strippin', but during that he had a clothes all the way, he pulled his clothes down and had a green G-string on. I was like, you know what, this man, if he got that much confidence to expose his boobs. He stole that from me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of folks were doin' it, but at the time we all open mic, cause he was so much better than all of us. And I used to look up to him, man. He used to kill it back in the day. Big Mo Dixon. Yeah, I remember Big Mo. Remember Big Mo? He funny. And did you ever like, you know, have your own thong joke and shit where you in tribute to Big Mo Dixon? No, no, no, no. Say it in tribute. No. He can't have no tribute joke where he has naked for another man. You can't be a tribute comedian. Not getting naked in the Jack Shepard nigga. Y'all don't remember why I used to get butt naked on the stage. But why you ask it? Yeah, that's again. Nah, I went naked for another man. Exactly, that's the difference. You talkin' about that tribute joke. Yeah, you ain't gettin' naked. Poppa your ass, he talkin' just for Big Mo. Come on. Where we goin'? Hittin' back tux and shit. With the chain shirt on, you used to wear a nigga. Yeah, right? Come on, man, niggas ain't even know. It was me and Isaac Hayes and Beyoncé with that chain shirt. The chain shirt on. Now, further, what I got to the States when I got back to the States, J.J. Williamson. Well, I used to look up to J.J. Both from Mississippi and I was just like, he can do that, I can do it. Yeah, J.J. can do that, too. 100%, 100%. Now, what's one of the biggest misconceptions about comedy to all of y'all? People think it's easy. People think they can do, you can be in the living room with your family and they feel like they can take it to the stage. And then they quickly realize that comedy is an art. It's an art that we really practice hard on. I mean, day in and day out to make it look easy. Yeah. Because people think, oh, man, I'm a comedian, too. But you on the street corner just roasting people and all that and they think that they can become comedy and then when they get on stage, they're totally lost because they now realize that it's an art. And that we always own. I'm a human being, I ain't always trying to be funny. If I'm at the urinal, nigga, I'm not finna go back and forth with no jokes, you know what I'm saying? I rubbed wrong with you. Ain't nothing wrong with me, I'm trying to piss my nigga. I'm holding my dick. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that's one of the things. You holding your dick, he walk up to you, tell me a joke and show me it back, too. I think another misconception about comedies is that all comedies is happy. These niggas is bitter. Bitter. Lot of angry, unhappy as miserable in life as comedians. And they use comedy as a mask. Yes. I mean, bitter and when I say a lot, I would, I don't know if y'all agree with this. I would say the majority. I would say 90%. Yeah, see what I'm saying? 90, I say 90%. I would say 90%. Angry, bitter, miserable people. Comics are coming from their own life and sometimes people's lives are miserable and they're not doing as well as they should or they think they should. So they're bitter and they're doing a lot of fucked up shit in the industry. And they, but they mask it with comedy. They can be some of the funniest people out, but they're really bitter people. They're just bitter, you know what I'm saying? So, and of course, Misery loves company, you know? Did you know? Comics are some weirdos, man. Yeah, it's, I would have hugged you. I would have hugged you, so it ain't nothing to do. It's got me something wrong with you to do this anyway. You want to get up and just expose yourself to strangers and say, you know, your vulnerability and stuff like that. Right, right, right. People cope with shit differently. You guys fucked up shit in your life. You turn it into jokes. You make fun of it and then you do it on stage. That's why they say comedy is pain. You know, okay, now speak to what he just said, just said, like every time people come up to you and say, hey, I thought what you did was great. I like, like, you know, you've heard this thousands of times. How do you receive it these days with these cameras, pretend like these cameras are off? Uh-huh. Can you answer this question honestly? Yeah, I can. Somebody tell me I did a good job. I'd be like, God bless you. Thank you, I appreciate it. That's just my thing, you know what I'm saying? Cause you gotta understand something. These are your fans. These are people who look up to you, who admire you for what you do. So why not be nice to them? You know what I'm saying? They never had somebody to come up to me and they're nice to me and I'm rude to them and they didn't buy a ticket to my show. It doesn't make any sense. You're really killing your pockets cause people still talk. They still have telephones. They have all that. They call and say, hey man, I went to his show and he was a complete asshole. That's all people need to hear. You know what I'm saying? And they won't fuck with you. It is what it is. Yeah, people, my thing is, people don't have to, it's so much, especially like being a black comic, every day before you make it, make it, somebody tell you you ain't shit when you're a black comic. Exactly. Black people, it's like they go out of their way to let you know what you do ain't shit. Yes they do. They go out of their way to do that. So when you have somebody say something positive, for me, I'm like, Steve, it's always well received cause you constantly getting niggas shitting on you. It's like niggas will, you'll do a video online and it'll have 80,000 views. So clearly people fucking with it, but it'll still be somebody in the comments. Maybe you do this for that shit wasn't funny. I did that. I did that. Then keep pushing. Why the fuck did you take the time out of your life to comment and try to shit on me? It's on the record, so yeah. So when somebody says I'm nice, it's like a breath of fresh air cause the other side happened way more often. So Jack, let me ask you all a question. Have you ever told somebody who was a comedian to be like, tell me a joke. Now that shit get on my nerves. I'd be like, nigga, I'm not at work. Yeah, I don't like that. Now speak to what you had said. Now we are our own worst critics. So I've had people come up to me, man, you killed that. And I thought that was ass. But I still was grateful and smiled and thanked you and stuff like that. Because I know I didn't say this wherever and I was supposed to say it. And my timing was off here and there, but the audience don't know that. So sometimes you be down on yourself and then, but the audience think you did an amazing job. So, but he didn't have to do that to you. You know, walk away. Yeah, he's a dickhead for that. Point blank here. He's a dickhead for that. Now, what did you do? He ain't do nothing, he just said, good show. He is, what we're all about. I'm sorry, go to the restroom. Yeah. Did you say good show loud? Did you say it soft? It don't matter, you said good show. He's a dickhead. And you and LA is a lot of weirdos out there. Oh, it was in LA. Oh, you was in LA? Oh, wow. See, that's a whole nother movie. Yeah, that's a whole nother movie. Yeah, that's a whole nother, that's because that's a grind that people don't understand. Like, because, you know, a lot of people that move to LA and everything to chase the dream, they ain't really on the road like that. You know what I'm saying? But they do, a lot of them do, really do have their shit together on stage and shit. And they're waiting for that person to come in and, you know what I'm saying? Or waiting for that agent to come in and say, hey, we gonna pick you for Sweep's Week or a pilot season and da, da, da. And they beat themselves, that shit, that shit will eat you up and you know what I'm saying, spit you out and whatnot. Every day it's a group of motherfuckers going to LA with big dreams, big dreams. Hopes and aspirations. Hopes and aspirations, man. And they leave, man, broken, super broken. More broken than they was before they even left. True, true, true. And whatnot, so you know, and then one thing, when you are a person that has a dream of being somebody, it ain't nothing like feeling in a place like LA. LA is a really lonely place and everybody that you meet there is always saying, yeah, just hit my people up. Hit my people up and then you ain't even getting their people number. They ain't getting you their people number. And one thing about LA compared to other places, everything in LA feel like they can be that dude. Yeah. Every nigga there feel like they can be that dude. And regardless of where they are, because in LA, even if you're a comedian, you don't necessarily have to be funny in LA because it's LA. So it's movies, TV shows and all that stuff right here. So you can just have a look. You can be slightly humorous in LA and still get put on. That's why even the most unfunniest dude who or whoever or chick or whatever in LA still walk around with that type swag. Cause they know, I ain't got to be, yeah, I know I ain't the funniest dude going on this stage every week, but I got a decent look. I'm six, two, you know what I'm saying? I'm clean cut. I'm the type. I'm slim, I'm that type. So they still, so all of them still feel like they can make it. I'm five, seven. You know, a lot of people said back in the like nineties when you even asked about other comedians moving to LA, do you want to be a small fish in a big pun? Or you want to be a little fish and let LA come to you? You used to hear that shit all the time in the nineties. Yeah. All the time in the early 2000s, you know what I'm saying? Like, what is really the right answer, you know, as a young, up-and-coming budding comedian? Like, I don't think you got a mood in there now. No, no, no. You know what, cause now you have social media, so it's called creating a buzz. Yeah. Once you create that buzz, trust me, people will start migrating to you, you know, LA agents, whoever, because you have a buzz on yourself. Back in the day, you would have to go to these places and build your name up. You see what I'm saying? And you might make it and you may fail, but now with social media and technology, now you can create that buzz and people will come to you. And then, not only that, you are to be ready-built, cause you already have your following, you already have your audience, all that. So, you know, it's a lot easier now thanks to social media. Yeah. Well, I mean, but you guys, y'all all came from somewhere else. Y'all ain't from Atlanta. Yeah. Right. Well, I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You from Atlanta? Yeah. I don't know why, you know, I don't know why I keep it. You all, man, we done had this conversation at the time. Exactly. I'm from Atlanta. Yeah. He's from Atlanta. He's from Atlanta. Gotcha. You can show him. He's a hater. I apologize, bro. He's a hater right here. Wow. Everybody gonna be part of the original team. He's from Jonesboro. He's from Jonesboro. Everybody gonna be part of the original team. What camera am I looking into? Jones, he's from Jonesboro. Jonesboro. Yeah. All of it. Yeah. So, y'all wouldn't tell nobody to go to New York or go to LA to, you know, broaden their horizons. I don't think it's, I'm like them. I don't think it's necessary, but why move to New York, put yourself in a financial bind and all that stuff right here? Well, you could stay in Mississippi or Atlanta or whatever, get the same buzz, get the same heat, and then somebody from New York, a big agent to see you because you done created that buzz like Steve was talking about and they'll pay for you to move to New York. And they'll pay for you to move to LA. He didn't say Alabama. Yeah, because nobody wants to be from Alabama. Go ahead. I'm from Connecticut. I can dig it. Yeah, so that's, yeah, I just don't think it's necessary. The internet has shrank the world. Yeah. So the social media makes LA. And the good way and the bad way. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, the social media makes LA in your basement. Exactly. It makes New York in the bathroom because you can reach them from all those places. Yeah. But we about to reach some people on channel 85. Yes, 100%. That's what, this is what we are. So we're gonna talk about conspiracy theories, man. Here we go. I didn't know that. Like, do we have some conspiracy theories, motherfuckers, over here today? No. No. Like, are y'all, would you, would you cook? Actually, we hate them. I believe in conspiracy theories is the niggas who push them to aggravate the shit out of me. These the niggas, these aggressive niggas who fuck up cookouts and make hostile work environments. Don't eat that green bean. This nigga wanna talk about this. Don't eat that green bean. You wanna talk about this stupid shit all the goddamn time, man. And then I'll be like, okay, what the fuck you want me to do about it? Now they sitting there looking stupid at you. Yeah. See, he said he a sheep. No, nigga, I want you to tell me what the fuck you want me to do about what you just said. And they can't never ask you. Hey, hey, bro. I just had this same conversation yesterday with my homeboy. We all know him too. And I tell y'all after this show who he is. He keep like, hey, man, didn't I fucking tell you that it's aliens here now? And it might be, but what the fuck you want me to do about it? What the fuck you want me to do? Hold on, how he know that? Yeah. He ain't never seen, he don't know where they, what grocery store they in the drawer, man. But definitively, how he know that definitively? Hey, Jack, and he dead ass here. He dead ass. I, I, I, I, I, and everything. I like it. The nigga start whispering. Like, like the, like the aliens listening. Like the, like the aliens listening. Out of all the conversations they listen to on this planet. He thought the aliens was listening to y'all conversation. Yes. Fuck listening to some shit at the Pentagon. Fuck listening to some shit in New York at the World Trade. And the fuck that, he thought the aliens want to listen to y'all conversation. So nigga walked up to you and whispered in your ear, you know what's happening. The nigga called me and the nigga brought Jamie Foxx into this shit and everything. All like, oh, they connect everything. They connect everything. So the aliens got down. Tell me why all these young niggas is dying at 60 years old. Like fucking Lance Riddick. You see why the fuck Jamie Foxx didn't goddamn had a heart attack and a stroke on the set cause he took the vaccine, nigga. A nigga got killed in a car wreck. Nigga says the vaccine. Yeah. Oh, right. Vaccine ain't killed everybody, right? Yeah. What the fuck you talking about? Yes. So that's the everybody blame everything on the back. Everybody blame everything. Everybody died early. Like niggas just started dying early. Yeah, they just started dying early. Niggas been dying at 22 and 30, 18 and 16 since the beginning of time. And all of a sudden, 60 year olds is only dying. It's gone too soon. 60 is gone too soon. Niggas been dying like they ain't never died before. Yes. They good. And they had a lot of conspiracy there. They was a slow niggas in school. Yes. And now you a philosopher on line, right? Niggas played though. Yeah, nigga, what the fuck, nigga? Yes, man. The shit just getting out of fucking hand. It's the vaccine shit. What's another motherfucking conspiracy theory? Tupac. Tupac. And the government didn't kill niggas and shit. He's still alive on the island. Why is it that with a conspiracy ticket go talk about who in the Illuminati, he only say black superstar? Niggas got them caribbonette ain't Illuminati, nigga. Bill Clinton, you ain't know no white folks in the Illuminati? Only black folks in the Illuminati? What's the old white lady with the gold girl just died? Betty White. Betty White. She had to be. She had to be. But Jay-Z ain't the Illuminati. She had to be. In the Illuminati, LeBron James in the Illuminati. Farrah Paulson, Farrah Paulson had to be in the Illuminati. Ain't no white folks in the Illuminati. I remember I had Snoop Dogg and some shit like that back in 2013. I said, hey man, so is the Illuminati real? He said, hey man, can I keep it real with you real quick? I said, yes, please, if you don't mind. He said, man, I don't even know what the fuck that shit is. But that's your question. Talk to me. Is the Illuminati real, man? Can I tell you the real answer? I don't even know what the fuck that is. And Niggas always be saying I'm associated with it whenever I put a picture up there. But he is, but look at that. Look at the way he did this. Look at the stars and the diamonds. I'm like, what the fuck is, I never even paid no attention. And this fucking Snoop Dogg. If anybody's supposed to be in the Illuminati, it's gotta be Snoop Dogg. It's gotta be Snoop Dogg. For a reason. Come on, man. Ain't no nigga named Tony who worked down at the Walmart plant. Niggas, you ain't got the info? Yes. Why they chose? That's my face. He's late, he gotta go to the meeting. And I'm late, I gotta go to the Illuminati meeting. They gonna let you know? And if it's this big? Don't fuck live like that spout. They think you can let you know? And if it's this many niggas in the Illuminati, do you really still think it would be a secret? Come on, man. With this many niggas that they say is an Illuminati, you still think it would be a secret? Niggas, everybody would know all the rules. Niggas would be the post. Niggas with, you know how we do, we gotta be seen. So niggas would be at the Illuminati entrance door, like nigga, I'm about to go into the Illuminati. Niggas, you about to go in this bitch. Shout out to everybody who wanna be down with the Illuminati. We in this bitch. We'll sell out in a fucking minute. I thought driving three niggas all over the country and turning back flips on stage was the way to get in. Come on, man. It didn't happen. It didn't happen. And there ain't nobody saying that the Illuminati ain't real or ain't no conspiracy. We trippin' on the niggas who be aggressively pushin' the shit. Baby, you know I'm personally, man, you don't know what the fuck you talkin' about. You was in the damn bungalows, especially in the building. Behind the hospice. You said the bungalows were the bungalows. Hey, remember when we thought when nobody snitchin'? Remember that? I ain't know about that. When nobody snitchin' and it was a very taboo thing, man, when as you goin' or not, you learn it. Hey, man, look, I'ma be honest. I'm at the age right now. I'ma openly tell you. I'ma snitch. I'm tellin' on every goddamn body, yeah. Get in my car with some stuff on ya. Don't tell me. I'm tellin' you. We at that age now, I'ma tellin' you. Yeah, yeah. First 48 has shown you that everybody's snitchin' on everybody, niggas is snitchin' on theyself. It's a TV show. First 48. Been runnin', how many seasons now? Forever. Forever. And niggas is tellin' on theyself. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I was there, but I don't know who shot him. Niggas! You and I were in talk. You done told you was there, nigga, we know. We look at the video tape. We see it was only two niggas in there, and then you say I was there. The dead nigga, we got his body, so clearly you the other nigga in the video. Go on, put the handcuffs on yourself. Put the handcuffs on yourself. Niggas is snitchin', niggas been snitchin'. Yeah, man. Everything, everybody hard to niggas start calculating them years. Yeah. And them charges start droppin'. You start sayin', ooh, I ain't gonna never get out of here, and then you hit the equal sign and the E pop up on them years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga start tellin'. Error nigga. Nigga start tellin'. Man, everybody is tellin'. Don't get it, they sayin' no snitchin' for this street cret shit, don't fall for that. That is a conspiracy. That's niggas tellin'. That's just what it is. Niggas still askin' niggas take charges for him. That's some goofy shit to me. I don't understand the concept of it. I don't get it. I imagine that happenin' to me. I imagine that I laugh so fuckin' hard at them. That my fuckin' spleen shot out my ass. You think I'm finna take a char for you, man? Nigga, you pull the call before the police. Bruh, I'm the one callin' the dog. Come here, come here, come here. Don't pull it up. Fuck out of my face, man. Get him over here. Yeah. Nah, take a charge. I'm not takin' nothin'. Yeah, I know. Well, somebody else? Come on, man. Somebody else. It's getting out of hand, man. It's gettin' out of hand. Hey, so we've talked about conspiracy theories, man. Oh, let's go to, yeah, we talk like this podcast. How does this idea even come together, Steve? You're the spearhead of this. Man, you know what, man? Me and Lab'nah, we talked, man. And we were just talkin' about just gettin' together, doing, just comin' together, doin' some crazy stuff, man, talkin' about different topics. You know, of course, we brought Marv in, and as a guest, well, it was a guest first, right, Marv? And Marv was like, Marv worked out so well, man, so you're like, you know what, man? Let's just keep this three some goin'. Everything's all good, the shut up, man, y'all. Let's keep this, let's keep us three together, let's keep this group together. Let's keep this group together. Let's be doin' what we doin' our thing, man. Gotta work on your adjutant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hands on your hips. Then, Jack comes in, and man, it turns into magic. And then here we are, man, the year we talked about this podcast, people are lovin' it, man, we're growin' on people. And, you know, we got a great support system, man, Be Goldy, and Dotnet Digital, and just everybody's behind us, man, and it's growin', and, you know, we're just proud of it. That's what's up, man. So when y'all all set out to be comics, man, what was the ultimate goal for you? Was this just to get by, what was the end goal? Well, for me, I know, in the beginning, I wanted to be a workin' comic in comedy clubs. You know, just, you know, the appeal of being on the road in the weekend, I'm hidin' comedy clubs, that's what I got in this for, you know what I'm sayin'? Just, I really did romanticize it. It's a little bit different now, cause I did not anticipate social media, steering stuff, all over, so, you know, you got to regroup. But that was my goal in the beginning. My goal was pretty much to, you know, get in to be very successful. I think I'm doin' pretty well. And become a comedic actor, but continue doin' my stand-up comedy and, of course, produce shows and stuff like that. So, you know, that goal is pretty much intact. And, you know, we're seein' where it goes. My goal, I want to be able to do everything. Anything that falls up under the comedy umbrella, I want to be able to do that. Exactly. Be that stand-up comedy, improv, comedic actor, writing, that was my goal, to be able to do every content created, everything that falls up under the comedic umbrella. That has always been my goal. And I've had the opportunity to pretty much do almost all of them up under that umbrella. I just want to keep being able to do that and keep getting better at each one of those things. Now, when it comes to the business, man, what's something that y'all could just do it out? Like, what y'all don't like about it? What y'all don't like about comedy? You know what, man, I think, from my perspective, I love everything about comedy. Of course, the business is going to be the business. The business, when you go in, knowing that it's business, then it's not as bothersome, you know what I'm sayin'? And you, when you come in young and you think we're like a brotherhood, a fraternity, and you get burned, then, you know, either you take that step to learn more about it and become business-minded, or you become bitter. And, you know, unfortunately, some have gone the other way. So once you learn it is a business and you treat it as such, then you'll be fine. But, I mean, but it's nothing like being on stage and doing your thing, man, that's like amazing. But the business part can be trying, but we gotta remember, it is a business. Let me see, if I had to pick something I don't like, like you asked, I don't like the fact that, and I don't even know if this is just a straight comedy thing, I don't like the fact that we're in a period where real talent is marginalized. And if I could change anything, I would make talent be back at the forefront. I want people who know how to sing to get the record deals. I want people who can rap to get the record deals. I want comedians who are funny, who actually do stand up, who do comedy to get the opportunity. Just talented people. I don't care what you do, but talent has been marginalized across the board. Not required. So if I could change anything, I would make talent be the first thing that people look at again. That's great. That's what I would change. If I was changing anything. I don't like about comedy is the same thing that I don't like about society. You don't have to prove yourself no more. That used to be structured when I first started. Like for instance, if I'm around a headliner, man, I'm not talking. Don't go in the green room. You know what I'm saying? It's certain things you do. That's gone. That's completely gone. I don't know what else to say. Well that's Hayes. I don't give a dad what it was. It was a side of respect. And even today, if I'm around a DL or something like that, I do more listening than I do talking. Exactly. And so these days you got open micers who out here, you know what I'm saying? Getting with 30 year comedians like they on equal footing and you ain't. Exactly. Out-talking and yellow. Out-talking and everything. So that aggravates me. You know what I mean? Trying to shoot them in shit. Hey, bruh. That's a whole nother story, bruh. Speaking of a whole nother story, is there anything that happened inside your career? You know, where you was just out one nighting. You know, you was just minding your own business. Yeah, ma'er. And wild shit popped up. Steve Goffert. Hey, no. Steve Goffert. No, Steve Goffert. Hey, man, I had a young comic to pull a gun on me, man. To pull a gun on me. And we was there. Yeah, we was there. Everybody scattered and left me. And I'm looking at this dude. And come to find out, man. They scattered and left you. Well, it couldn't stand right behind you. Because it was on the line of fire. We on the line of fire. Ain't no use in everybody getting shot. And I'm a big nigga. Hey, you know what, man? Somebody got to stand right behind you. You know what, come to find out. Ain't no, well, the young brother pulled a gun, man. We had words and come to find out. He was a fan of mine. Still is. Steve called me to this day, believe it or not. I won't answer. But I mean, I think we've talked about that, Jack. He could call and I won't answer. But, you know, he wanted to get my attention one way or another, you know? And I've got emails where, man, I look up to you this and this and this and that and this and that. But he wanted to get my attention. But he didn't know, he didn't know how to go about doing. I love you so much, I'll kill you. Pretty much. And he was just poking the bag, just poking the bag. And, you know, I've been. He was about to shoot the bag. And look, and laugh, and I've been knowing, laugh, laugh. How long have we been knowing each other? 20 plus years. And laugh was like, don't see in the back, Steve. And then Marv looked at me and like, don't see in the back. And I was like, I'm gonna say something back. Fuck that. And the young man, and I ain't go that far. I was like, look, man, leave me alone, bro. If you want problems, I'm about to give them to you. Leave me alone. And then they're gonna say it, y'all, watch this. He walked up, we ain't think that none of it. Next thing you know, he came back with a gun. And I'm just standing there looking at it like. He had one of them long barrels over there. He walked up rather aggressively. Dirty hair, that's a fire. And now, we talking. No, but it's funny. And then, yeah, yeah, it on my foot. He had those dancing eagles. I could have sworn that nigga said silly wabbit. Look, but he came back with the gun. He was like, he was started just talking crazy and I just stood up and just looking at him. Like, what the fuck are you doing? And then he's like, nobody better not move. And everybody like, fuck this, we ain't trying to get shot. Nobody. He said, like, not just Steve. He was like, what you doing? You feeding a raw muscle? He's feeding a raw muscle. He's gonna shoot himself. But none of you niggas move. Like, we all seem to be like, yeah. Even in danger, niggas is hard head. Every nigga moved. Everybody moved. Everybody moved. And you can't blame him. You know what I'm saying? Nobody wanna be in the line of fire. So I'm like, you know, it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? So he eventually calmed down and walked left and that was pretty much it, man. But again, yeah, it was wild. Yeah. Man, that's why, can y'all top that? No. Yeah, I can't. And you know what, man? This particular club, which is a well-respected club, because I don't get out, like, you know, I don't get out a whole lot. You know what I'm saying? I'm like a homebody. And these two, it talked me into going out for the first time. Come on out, man. Because it's a nice, welcoming environment. Which camera do I look in? Which camera do I look in? Now, these niggas set me up. They set me up. No, no, no, you set yourself up. You set yourself up. It was a conspiracy theory, I believe, you know. Yeah. Not at all. Mark, you had anything like that happen to you? Gotten into it with some hecklers. I let my anger get the best of me. And I went to overboard. They saw a couple of them rush the stage. And they stopped them. Then they went outside and called some people. And they was trying to make me stay in there. But my truck was in between. And then I had my gun in my truck. So I went in my truck. I got my gun. They got in the car and followed me, got on 285. They peered off half a couple of miles. But that was the craziest day that happened. Well, Mark, that's unlikely. That was actually better. Well, that's why I don't talk to hecklers. That's why I don't deal with it now. I don't even do that. I don't even gauge on, you know, talk or this. I ain't never had no shit like that happen to me. Yeah, that was a Mississippi burnin' shit. I wasn't even allowed. So they were trying to rush the stage, Mark? Well, but I went overboard, though. I call it about six different cunts, hoes. She ain't got me mad. I went stupid with it. So it was my fault that it got that bad. But, you know, you learn. You learn, you know what I'm sayin'? They call family members, all the people. We had a family reunion in the parking lot. But my truck was close. Got the truck out of my gun. It wasn't gonna be none of that. Man, this remind me of another comedian that had a story calling my motherfuckers bitches at a mosque meeting one night. Yeah, yeah, I'ma tell you a name after it's gonna make too much sense after a week. Ah! That's ridiculous. When you hear this nigga name, you're like, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, lad, you never had a story? You ain't never got a story. That's not happened to me. Now, I done been with other cats who have created drama and I was in their drama by default. And I think as Marvin was talking, the craziest thing I think of me and C-Dog, and I can say his name because he tell the story all the time. We was in North Carolina and we was on the creative tour. And it was this hood-ass club in North Carolina. And C-Dog was on stage. And so this big dude walked in, he had about like six, five, three, 30. If somebody say he play NFL ball, nobody would have questioned him. He was that big. So he walked in, he sit down at the bar and C-Dog start talking about him, joking on him, you know, not killing him, but kind of joking on him because you know, dude, six, five, three, 30, plus walking, you gotta say something and it wasn't that packed. So boom. So C-Dog talking about, he stood up, he said, man, man, gone with that bullshit. So then C-Dog, you know how comics is, he laid it to him a little bit more. This nigga walked on this little stage area and got nose to nose with C-Dog. Security in the club and nothing. Nobody moved, nobody did shit. He's like, all right, I ain't gonna tell you again that that shit go. So then finally a waitress came and said, hey, let it go. So she walked him back. So we end the show and so the nigga goes into like the little back pool room. And so now C-Dog mad because he's like, he go to security, y'all, you just let this nigga walk up on me. He's like, amen. That's the biggest drug dealer in the city. Every nigga who sell dope in the city work for that nigga. He say, so he mad for real. So you might wanna go and leave. Damn. So nigga, we get up and we go to the car and while we walk into the car, about four box Chevy's pull up. You already know, nigga, the box Chevy's pull up. Nigga, they got the arsenal and they got them back. So we ain't even go to the hotel, nigga. We went back to the hotel, actually. We packed all our shit up and we drove back to Atlanta from Greenville, North Carolina, which is about a six and a half hour drive at about two o'clock in the morning. Because we was like, yeah, this ain't the place to be with goddamn Nino Brown looking for you. Yeah, yeah. In the box Chevy squad. In the box Chevy squad. So that's the craziest thing I think I ever been a part of. Woo! That's clear. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Amen. But I really appreciate y'all coming to the show, man. This is the first and definitely not gonna be the last because man, we joined together for life. At first y'all. Is that anything y'all wanna say to New Jack Thrillers City, man, before we get out of here? Amen. Thank y'all for having us, man. This is another notch in our belt to success. We appreciate y'all, man. We appreciate this platform. 85 South, channel 85. Amen. It's a blessing. We appreciate it. We humbly appreciate it. Appreciate y'all, man. I definitely appreciate it. And I mean, all what Carlos Lemon has created here, man, this is beautiful, man. Beautiful new studio. But again, you know what I'm saying? I'm Comedian Marvin Hunter. Get at me on Instagram at Comedian Marvin H1. That's Comedian Marvin H1. And also I will be at the Atlanta Comedy Theater on June the 8th, man. Make sure y'all spread the word, man, doing my thing. It is. All right, same thing. Appreciate it, Jack. You know, Jack, I tell you this all the time. I mean, you know, we talk on the regular base of the phone. Jack, one, you entertain the hell out of me. You entertain the hell out of me. And yeah, well, yeah, you us, but you damn sure 100% entertains this shit out of me. And I tell you that all the time, I enjoy talking to you and enjoy kicking with you. And I appreciate you again. You got a platform you invited us on. I know comics who have platforms, you know, and won't bring you on the platform. You know what I'm saying? It is real. And you do it. You know what I'm saying? You always show love. So it's like what he said. You know, you get shitted on so much when somebody fucking got their hand out and extended. You just want to reach back out and shake it. So we appreciate it. No doubt, no doubt. For sure. Man, hey, y'all my best friends, man. Hey, anytime I could be there for y'all, y'all always there for me. You know, that's what I'm gonna do. It's my job, man. Well, just one one request. Stop calling me. Let me know you neck it. I don't like all that shit. Just, just, just, just say. Man, you know what's funny about that? Hey, it's been calling me at three o'clock in the morning. What you doing, Steele? What you doing, Jack? I'm neck it. Jack, why the fuck are you calling me? I was on the phone FaceTime with Cisco yesterday. He said, Nick, is your shoulder's out, man? What the fuck? Hold on, what kind of shirt you had on that we just showed you? My shirt was off. Yeah, my shirt was off. He called me. He called me, he heard I had glaucoma and stuff, and he was calling me to see if I was alright and whatnot. And yeah, I was just in an awkward position. That is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was trying to, yeah. I can't see myself and him on the phone at the same time. But you do have no shirt on? Yeah, but I was trying to angle it up so he couldn't see my shoulder. Don't angle it, just don't answer or leave the phone pointing straight to the ceiling. I know it, right? That's what I said to you. That's what I said to you. Yeah, you're neck it. He be neck it. He ain't no shirt off. What you doing? Yeah, I didn't want to be rude. And you don't think showing the nigga your ariolas is not rude? Right. He didn't see no nipples. It was just this part right here. It don't even matter, but. It don't even matter. Best of that bitch was shining. Yeah, it was shining. It was shining. I was looking at your shoulder blades. Hey, man, let's take some pictures, man. Hey, New Jack through the city, man. Yeah, we talk like this podcast, man. Marvin Hunter, Love, Steve Brown, we outta here. Wiz, take us out, let's go. Your master's living 10 years old, over the 10 years old. 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