 Welcome to the bull and bear show episode number 22 with King Earl and blaze. How you gentlemen doing today? Doing wonderful. Thank you How you doing Earl? Hey Earl, can you hear me? Yes? Okay, perfect. How you doing today? I'm doing pretty well. How about yourself? I'm doing fantastic man. So we're gonna start off with Bitcoin obviously, I'm a big fan of Bitcoin. I know you guys are as well and Lots of great things happening with Bitcoin this week some some weird things But at the end of the day, I think a lot of good things and we're gonna talk about that It's gonna be a big big part of our show today because Bitcoin is starting to really take off now. There was Fake news essentially that started off this week with Bitcoin Here's the here's the title BlackRock To start the week had a it was it was rumored that BlackRock had been approved for the Bitcoin ETF but it was fake news and Bitcoin and BlackRock was not approved for the ETF so The price of Bitcoin skyrocketed and went up like 10% immediately and then all of a sudden the price Dropped because the rumor came out that it was just a rumor So now we're sitting here trying to figure out. What's the truth? Nobody really knows. Well, what we do know is that there is no ETF yet that has been approved with BlackRock, so my question to you guys is this What do you think about this? Is this a rumor? Is this factual? Did somebody Tell something too soon. We'll start with you king girl. What do you think about this news? I Mean it could be many things. I mean it could be people actually investing to buy the news Or it could be secondarily somebody sneaking in before they actually approve it I eat the US federal government or BlackRock itself or given somebody else a bigger chance But I'd lean more heavily on the US government trying to get more Bitcoin before it's bought and Then I don't think BlackRock is going to buy it all at once because they know that the sell pressure is going to be high So but I mean once it takes off, they're not really going to be able to stop it But at the same time, you know, everybody's been waiting for huge large institutional investing for trading Bitcoin and then Of course, we're going to see a drop once it actually does go all the way up But you know that's to be expected. So I expect they'll actually Install their investments in installments when it does happen and you know They might have been some minor other people do doing investing not even here in the US so Okay, and what do you think about it, please? I think it's slight sabotage You know room is sabotage everything and Makes the price either go down or up right on this case the price should be going down a little bit in my book and I think You know, I don't think BlackRock's ready to purchase anything at 30 gram right now You know, I mean when they think they can get it for like 27 So this could be inside stuff. It could be outside stuff like girls said it could be the oil But I I firmly believe that someone's tampering with the news just to fluctuate the token and see how fast the public's actually listening So it's kind of like a little test run in my book. If you know what I mean And it could be anybody. It's legit though. It's a good thing to do. Sometimes I hate to say it But you got to see how the public reacts and there's big investors out there that shoot news out and they want to know What's going on, you know Well, we've all predicted that Bitcoin was gonna get over 30,000 in October and November so this is kind of doing exactly what we thought it would do when the Bitcoin BlackRock ETF approval news came out. It got picked up everywhere, right got picked up everywhere Everyone was talking about it people even had to big big organizations even have to come out and apologize for Breaking the news incorrectly So my thing is where did it come from? You know, it obviously came from somewhere I don't know exactly where but I think it had to have come from somewhere We got Nash Cowboy here Nash Cowboy. Can we hear you? You try this Good man, welcome Get the app you want the show brother Glad that you're here. Hey, you know what we can get your opinion. So this week BlackRock came out and There was a rumor that BlackRock had been approving There or the SEC had approved the BlackRock Bitcoin ETF and the price of Bitcoin shot up 11% Everyone was excited everyone was celebrating and then BlackRock came out the same day not to like maybe an hour or two later Saying it's not true Haven't approved the the Bitcoin ETF We haven't been approved by the SEC and then Bitcoin went back down Now bitcoins come back up again and we're sitting right around 30,000 just a little bit under right now What do you think about that? Do you think where there's smoke? There's fire Do you think an approval is coming soon? Do you think that they jump the gun? Do you think someone just pump this up because they want to see a price increase? Like why do you think that this came out early? What's your opinion on that? I don't think they're pretty jet in my personal opinion is somebody saw an opportunity and Used it to make a lot of money somebody heavily invested in Bitcoin spread the rumor out there and then they cashed out when it went up and knew it would only last for a couple of days and You know Now it's come back down, but now it's and then they bought back in that's my personal opinion Somebody saw an opportunity to screw other people over You always got to do your research no matter what are your investing in you always got to do your research You need to verify all claims about any kind of an investment whether it be a House or stocks or crypto or anything you need to verify all the information Because there is always going to be somebody trying to Get a little extra out of the game Okay, perfect. I like that Go ahead. I Said well said Nash Yeah, see I think where there's smoke There's fire and I think that there's somebody that knows something and I think that I think there is an approval coming. I Think it's going to come very very soon and I think that someone leaked this news That's kind of what I think it is I think it's coming and I think someone leaked the news now. I have no idea when it's coming I don't have that information, but the deadline from the SEC is January 10th So the reality is we're already sitting on October 21st So we've got less than three months until the deadline So even if it doesn't happen now or it doesn't happen next month or it doesn't happen December It has to happen by January 10 So my question you guys is this when do you guys think we're gonna see the first Bitcoin spot ETF approved? We'll start with you Earl Well, we already know that some of the deadlines already starting to come up Especially for like grayscale But I mean they could push it on into next year But even if they approve it doesn't mean that it's gonna be instantly bought. You know what I mean? They still have to allocate the funds and move the funds and then as we already know fiat's extremely slow So we'll have to see what they actually do and then I think you know, November we could potentially see it But you know on approvals November to March So that but that's about where we're looking But as far as them actually starting their investment installations You know it could be after the halving and then like I said installments to buy the lower prices of the people Cell pressure increases Okay, Nash Cowboy, when do you think we're gonna see a Bitcoin spot ETF approval? January 4th Okay, I think that's when everything is going to be implemented a lot of different things so You know if they if they don't the deadline is the 10th If they don't then it's gonna You know, it's basically forced approved so Anytime after January, I don't think we'll see it before then But after January 1st somewhere, I think it'll take a few days into the end of January so January 4th a Lot of things will start popping off And then I think black rocks one to heavily invest but like Earl said it does take a Some time to move that kind of one so So it could take some time to actually implement Okay, what do you think blaze when do you think we're gonna see I think we all believe that it's gonna happen So when do you think we're gonna see this approval? Okay, so I Look at it this way Normally they announced they invest and it boosts this time around They're gonna invest and then okay They're not gonna go announcing it to boost it up so the best time is January as Nash stated, but I think later January on the fast tax returns people are gonna start investing they're gonna do it and they're gonna get it done before the having so No later than March, right? But yeah, I think January would be the best time to go because a lot of people are gonna want to make money off their money With this economy right now, and I think Bitcoin's gonna be the way to go in June January January next year 2024. Yep. Yeah, I think next year is gonna be very explosive late January late January, you know For tax refunds this that they're gonna try and time and they're gonna play it like you You're gonna see Bitcoin jump and then they'll announce it the next day. That's what you're gonna see On the screen right now It's got the title is Coinbase legal chief SEC must approve Black Rocks Bitcoin spot ETF So now the news is they have to approve this so everyone's coming out pretty much Already decided and determined that this is going to happen Which is very very good news very very bullish for Bitcoin and for investors and anyone that's holding Bitcoin That's what I think people are buying it right now because they're like, okay This is gonna happen like it's pretty much almost guaranteed at this point and it has to happen So that's why now I think people are buying because they're like, okay, this is gonna happen Let me get in now because once this gets approved We've already seen it when the the rumor came in that it went up 11% like immediately Once this gets approved. It's gonna be rocket fuel for Bitcoin So let me get in now and that's why I think the price is going up now The other theory I heard is that what the SEC is trying to do is they want to prove them all at the same time Because of the fact that they want it there to be competition So what I'm hearing is the SEC is going to try to approve them all at the same time so that there's fair competition in pricing fees Rates so imagine if they approve them all at the same time So in my opinion if they do approve them all at the same time, I think it's gonna be around January 10th That's the deadline. I think the SEC is gonna drag it out as long as they can I hope that I'm wrong But I think they're gonna drag it out as long as they can very close to that January 10th deadline And I think what they're gonna do is they're gonna approve them all at the same time now Can you guys imagine if they approved nine Bitcoin spot ETFs all at the same time? What do you guys think that would happen to the price? Let me get your guys opinion Let's just say let's just imagine that on January 10th. They approve them all at the same time What do you think that does to the price? We'll start with you Earl. Well, I think primarily it's gonna We lost it. Oh, we lost Earl I think so Hey, Earl you cut out Okay, while we wait for Earl to get back we'll get you Nash Cowboy. What do you think that does? Let's say we get nine Bitcoin spot ETFs approved all at the same time. What do you think that does to the Bitcoin price? It's hard to say like How much are they planning on investing for one thing because what they're gonna do is they're gonna buy up as much as possible All right, so that they can do with it what they want, but How soon are they gonna invest I'm still sticking with my guns that there's gonna be a drop in January and February and even leaving into the beginning of March And then after that, I think it's skyrocket from there Just based off of patterns. I gotta stick to what I know as history and that's what's happened Every accumulation here before the Bitcoin happened, so I'm sticking with that The ETFs are uncharted territory, it's We we don't know what's gonna happen. Could it send it skyrocket to a million a coin maybe we don't know Who knows I Sticking with history, I think it's gonna top out of a hundred high-end 180,000 this bull market so But Seeing that black rock, I mean black rock owns nine point I wrote it down nine point four two trillion dollars in assets They manage that much money That's almost a quarter of the total amount of money in the whole world. It's crazy There are monsters for it. There's an estimated 40 trillion dollars in the world and black rock manages 9.4 trillion dollars worth of assets That's a huge company Like that's the biggest and so a lot of people think the vanguard and rock and black rock are the same company Because black rock owns the most vanguard and vanguard owns the most black rock So there's a lot so they could be even way huger than you think Um So they could potentially send it straight to the friggin moon like it's never jumped. We don't we don't know so that's it You got a stick to what you know Invest as you can because you know it's going up because of the bull market, but Is it going to skyrocket to the moon because of black rock? We don't know Um Invest what you can that's what we do know you need to do because no matter what the bull market's gonna send it up to a hundred to a hundred eighty I Have a new theory about the coins price and how much it jumps I was looking at how much it jumped I did like a 24x1 bull market and then it did a 12x the next bull market and this is complete speculation Without black rock. I think it would do a six a six X on its money, which was put in a hundred and eighty thousand. I Love it. I'd be very happy with that King Earl. You're back. Can we hear you? I'm okay. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you buddy. Good to have you back. We didn't get your answer So we're what do you think the price of Bitcoin would be if the SEC approved all of the Bitcoin spot ETFs all at once, which is one of the theories that I heard which makes a lot of sense to me because the SEC wants Competition they wanted to be fair. They want these ETFs to have similar pricing So there's not going to be you know one ETF charging one fee and another ETF charging another fee They want it to be very very streamlined across the board So what do you think that could potentially do for Bitcoin if all nine Bitcoin spot ETFs got approved at the same time? Well, I think it's going to be extremely competitive Also as the extreme sell pressure going to be keeping the price down from some of these other Traders now, so what's it? Can you not hear me? Take it? Yeah, we can hear you Okay says I lost connections. So let's take it so There's gonna be a heavy sell pressure which is gonna continue to drive the price down But I mean it's gonna be accumulation faith anyway So I don't view, you know that people are gonna sell really Until after the having and then as far as institutional Investors there are people who are investing at that for Bitcoin. I don't see them selling until in 20 years down the road But you know the amount of money that they have access to and the amount of money that they'd be willing to risk on something Especially when they only have seven companies within the FMP 500 driving 11% of the market For the FMP and then new releases for Apple Amazon and NVIDIA coming out this week It might be harrowing for the tail to come out and then they're gonna have to take a risk somewhere so They couldn't they could invest anywhere between, you know a trillion dollars and just match what it was like I'm not more than that Okay What do you think ladies? Go ahead. You got nine nine companies, right? They want to get involved in the ETFs, right? That's so To be fair, we're gonna give everybody a shot Okay, so if BlackRock single-handedly out of the nine puts one trillion into Bitcoin It's gonna go over. It's all time high and bring into about eighty ninety K. Okay So you'll look at Bitcoin's market cap and be like 1.8 billion is on trillion. Okay, then you got the other eight Okay, so even if they put in half of what BlackRock puts in right you're talking another four trillion. Okay So now you bet now you're up to almost six trillion dollar market cap Bitcoin was 69k at 1.2 trillion We're talking two three hundred thousand dollar tokens if these people put in a half a trillion each You know, they're not gonna go in with cheap, but the problem is they're also not gonna give away free money Yeah, they also know where the resistance is at 30k 39k 50k. There's all resistance marks, right? They put that kind of money in right away people gonna start cashing out right away. So I don't Really see it affecting it the way people are thinking 10x 20x, you know, I mean I see it bumping it up to it's all time high easily And then we'll see how it goes from there, you know Okay, great. Well, I love your guys opinions. This is why I love this show This is why we have this is the bull and bear show we like to talk about what's hot and what's not and right now Bitcoin is very very hot. It's up 100% in a year. It's in my opinion the greatest asset on the planet it's done better than any other asset over the last 14 years of its career and There is no asset this year that has been able to compete with Bitcoin not gold not equities not real estate Nothing not oil nothing is up a hundred percent this year like Bitcoin and the reality is there's so many catalysts That can take this even higher. So now the next article that I want to read is three reasons why Bitcoin will see a hundred K The three reasons they say in this article are number one Bitcoin is no longer a solution without a problem number two Bitcoin and cryptos are a unique asset class that will only grow in demand which I a hundred percent agree with number three economics one oh one there is 18.4 million bitcoins out of a total of 21 million that have been mined Which means only 2.6 million bitcoins left to mine and experts estimate that 10 to 30 percent Are out of the market due to lost passwords hardware crashes and people just forgetting how to get into their accounts Everybody believes that bitcoins going a hundred K since I've been in Bitcoin since the start everyone's talked about Bitcoin going a hundred K But it's never done it Will we see Bitcoin at a hundred K? Everyone talks about it that hundred thousand dollar mark is a very important number for Bitcoin It's been talked about since I've been in Bitcoin since 2017. I've been in for seven years and I've never seen it I believe we're gonna see it it might happen next year But I think for sure it happens in 2025. So my question for you guys just a quick yes or no We'll start with you Earl. Do we see Bitcoin at a hundred thousand dollars in the next two years? Yes cowboy absolutely blaze Absolutely, and I say yes, too So we all say that bitcoins going a hundred K over the next two years So that's pretty exciting because we're sitting at 30 grand right now So if it goes to a hundred K, we're gonna get a chance to do more than double our money over the next two years Which is fantastic considering it's already doubled in the last year So now the next topic is JP Morgan and Blackrock believe that a crypto bull run could push Bitcoin to 200,000 forget 100,000. They're predicting it could push Bitcoin to 200,000. So we've all said yes 100,000 so I want to know will we go to 200,000 on this bull run Earl? What do you think? Now without the help of the ETF, of course not so it depends on what happens with there, but I would say With the light of the ETFs. Yes Okay, Nash cowboy. What do you think we're gonna see 200,000 in the next two years in Bitcoin? I'm right there with Earl on that Everything we know about the ETF is just speculation without it I think we could the high end is 180 with it I Mean it's pretty good because I remember we were getting these types of predictions from smaller banks We're now getting these predictions from Blackrock from JP Morgan. These are two of the biggest banks in the world So when they go out on when they start saying Bitcoin's going to 200,000 I'm really listening obviously a hundred thousand for me was a huge milestone But 200,000 means we double everything from there So what do you think? I know what you just said. So what do you think blaze? You think we're going to jump in on you like that my bad Absolutely agree with Nash and King Earl But I think there's one more thing they forgot about that formula What's that common sense states that when it has a year later it jacks up, right? So you get the ETFs and the having we're going over to 100k Okay, beautiful that that's my like I've always visioned it for a long time when I was a When I doubted it back in the day and it literally hit 69k. That was it. I became a firm believer I came in late. I knew about Bitcoin for years before that But when that sucker hit 69k like that thing could easily hit a million dollars one day So we'll go with the 200 no no problem Yeah, I mean I I'm still gonna stick with 100 because I've yet to see a hundred So it's hard for me to believe 200 is gonna happen But crazy things happen during bull markets crazy things happen doing It's not just a regular bull market rich member the ETFs go through there's nine companies and then you get to have him You're right. I have a loan could bring it to 100k So hey listen, I want to see it more than anyone and I'm sure that you guys do too I want to see it but until my I see a hundred thousand It's hard for me to predict 200,000 so I'm gonna stick with a hundred thousand for now But if it hits 200,000, I will be one of the happiest guys in the room I promise you guys that because I am a holder of Bitcoin and Ethereum And I also believe that if Bitcoin goes to a hundred thousand that we're gonna see Ethereum go to ten thousand And that's a huge jump from where Ethereum is today because the theorem is sitting at sixteen hundred So that's a jump for a theorem as well And I'm a holder of Bitcoin and Ethereum and full disclosure guys remember rich TV live and all of the guests here We are all here for simply for Education and entertainment purposes Please do your own due diligence and do your own research before you invest in anything we talk about or discuss here On the bullet bear show past performance is not always an indication of future results And we don't stand there and hold up the price of Bitcoin for you to make money I wish we could but we can't maybe one day we will but we're not at that point yet So just like you guys were investors. We're speculating we we can't guarantee anything But what we can guarantee you is we're gonna be here every single week every step of the way to explain to you What's going on bring you the biggest breaking news give your opinion and show you what's going on in the market? So Based on that. Here's the price of Bitcoin right now Price of Bitcoin is at twenty nine thousand nine hundred and sixty dollars. It's been flirting with thirty thousand all day So at thirty thousand it seems to get a lot of selling pressure Okay, so just be aware of that if you're looking to invest in Bitcoin that it's getting a lot of selling pressure at the Thirty thousand mark now This is actually article that I want to share with you guys that was shared to me by King Earl the FBI charges Six for allegedly running a thirty million dollar money transmitting business using crypto So I would love to know what you guys think about this because one of the biggest problems that we've had in crypto over the years is That there's been a lot of scams. There's been a lot of fraud and That's one of the reasons why crypto hasn't done as well Is because a lot of the big institutions a lot of big investors always believe that Bitcoin was like one of the places where? Scams and fraud was happening and clearly it is so what's your opinion on this King Earl you you shared this article? What do you think about this? well, I view that You know the government is going to want its taxes and while places like this exist They're not going to be able to receive their taxes Same issues with tornado cash and some of the other ones. They can't track payments Especially because this was all done on the dark net where they can't track it unless it's actually Done by certain organizations that monitor the dark net So primarily they're just wanting their tax money from these transactions And I know where the transactions went to make sure there wasn't any money laundering going on or you know any nefarious acts so, you know, the people trying to get by with not paying taxes, especially as European The UK is starting to crack down on Passing more regulations for tax sharing for exchanges so they can collect their tax money And it's going to be the new way of the world You'll see more cases of this happening as they continue to investigate Other things same as tornado cash people are going to try to find a way not to pay taxes on their profitable gains Okay, Nash Cowboy, what do you think about this news? I'm right with Earl on that people are always trying to figure out how to Not pay taxes me myself Trying to use all the loopholes I can to get you know, there's many deductions or whatever You know, so people are always trying to figure out a way to hide money. So I'm 100% with Earl on that Okay, Blaze, what do you think about this? Well, it's it's a common thing It's going on. You just got one person. Yeah, one of the boy paying taxes is simple Back down to what Earl was saying, but I mean at the end of the day We can't stop it Because every time two scams are broken five more come out Yeah, so things go man. The government asked for way too much money First of all in taxes out of money you make off your own money. So you pay taxes on a hundred grand, right? You get 50 grand right in Canada. You take your 50 grand to get it back to a hundred grand, right? Now you then got to pay them another 25 grand out of 50 Where is The fine line between this when is it gonna stop with the government jumping on every dollar you make? Off your dollar that you already pay taxes on We need a more sophisticated system Okay We are so far behind in technology that the government is just gonna suck it up until somebody steps up And gets in their head or actually takes over that knows what they're doing, you know I mean so with that being said they get they get their hands in every basket everybody has in the countries and People are getting cigarettes so they're gonna find a way out of it And you know we can't stop it. So I don't hate on them for doing it They got penalties of buying it's probably jail time But at the end of the day the government's gonna get paid either way right whether or not these guys get fine go to jail Whatever they're gonna take their money either way So I had you know kudos to them. How's that? Yeah, hey listen, you know since I've been in crypto. There's been all kinds of scams. I've been scammed I've been hacked. I've had bad situations happen. So that's why I have a ledger I try to protect my crypto as much as possible and that's why I think Bitcoin ETFs are gonna be great Because now that there's gonna be Bitcoin ETFs, we'll be able to buy Bitcoin and not even have to worry about hacking or Getting our ledgers hacked or having any fraud happen in our crypto So I think that's gonna be really good for crypto and that's why I believe the money is gonna really flow in Now let's change gears because we've talked about Bitcoin for over half an hour. I want to talk about donald trump There's some really bad news that's come out donald trump doomed after co-defendants flip on him So they're starting to flip on him. This is getting really bad For donald trump. I want to know what you guys think about this. What do you think about donald trump? Are we gonna actually see donald trump go to jail? I never thought it would happen But it seems like momentum is growing that he could potentially go to jail. So I love to know what your opinion is on this, erl I view that he's not gonna actually face near as many of the charges if Any that are being brought against him When somebody flips it doesn't even say as to what tune or what they admitted that he had done in violation of what? so as far as Them flipping. I mean it could be that he stepped on a butterfly while walking out of trump towers Just to make him look bad. You know what I mean? So it could be anything and it could be nothing to do with the legal cases going on And they might not even have warrants to that information or subpoenas So let's see where it goes whether they draw up new charges I know there's things going on in new york as well as the alana cases So we'll just have to see where it goes and then You know, there's always more people out there to vote for trump isn't always the best man He was just the best man at the time And uh, other people can do the job. He said that many times. He said he shouldn't have to do the job But since nobody else would He ran Okay, ash cowboy. What do you think you think donald trumpson trouble? I don't um I'm optimistic on it. Uh, I think I think he's gonna come out good Um, not them not letting them Bring up certain things in the courtroom is not good so But I think the whole thing's a witch hunt and they're just trying to Shut him up because they know that he's gonna disrupt their Their their ponzi scheme They uh They've been trying to shut him up since day one. So Do I think he's in trouble now? I'm gonna keep optimistic and hopefully everything comes out of the wash and We sort of see a whole new world I know I know I would like to see trump be the president of america again And I felt like there was no wars when trump was president. The market was really strong Uh, we weren't having crazy high inflation. We weren't having crazy high interest rates But there's still a lot of americans and canadians that think that you know Trudeau's doing a good job and vina's doing a good job despite the fact that people are struggling left brain center So I don't get it. I don't I don't understand what people are looking at I I look at it like these guys have done a terrible job But you know people look at the jobs. Oh, there's tons of jobs Well, yeah, people have to work because they can't afford to live. So if you don't work, you're definitely going to start in this world So kind of a scary time Please Um Okay No, absolutely not You know, the united states of america is going to kind of an uproar the white house all this stuff gets attacked You know, his followers are so big plus even has followers that are politicians Multiple candidates if they get the presidency are gonna pardon him if he may even get it before he even gets charged Where he can pardon himself Absolutely not because if they really wanted trump gone, they would have sniped them out like they did everybody else Jail ain't gonna make him go away. They ain't gonna get jail. Nope Okay, no, he's too powerful He's got he's got He was money powerful before he became president of the united states and now he's powerful By the people, you know, I mean that's a bigger power He's the only president that ever lost the money as president That should tell you that people need to make that money. They need to make the money We need to get on our feet. We need to get things fixed It is people are not going to take no for an answer on this. I'm telling you It'll be a civil war again or something. I don't know the revolution or whatever There's gonna be another big problem in the united states if something happens to him Whether or not he's injured in any way or he's incarcerated. You will be out very quick Well, what do you guys think about this donald trump find five thousand dollars for violating a gag order This was on friday yesterday in new york fraud case and the judge even mentioned prison time because Trump continues to talk about the case on social media. Even though the judge is saying he's not allowed to freedom of speech The judge does not have the right to tell him that he's not allowed to talk about Yeah, and judge and and trump pretty much came out and he slammed the gag order after paying a five thousand dollar fine Saying i'm not saying anything wrong. So it's like even the judge is against him He's got the democrats against him. He's got biden against him He's got half of america against them and he's got his case He's trying to be me You know so Yeah So what do you guys think we'll start with you we'll start with you url I want to hear what you guys got to think about this one by one url. What do you think about this? I think the man has freedom of speech. It's not a criminal case um at this time but uh You know we'll have to see where it goes, but I mean five thousand dollars. I mean the man's paid more than that for A flagpole that had a flag flying on it. That was too tough And he laughed it off. He's probably gonna do the same thing with the five thousand. He's not worried about it The prison time, you know, we'll see where it goes from there, but you know, he he's been known to speak out and I mean he's not gonna give control of his freedom of speech over to the democrats I think but he might have his lawyer speak for it or he might hire Rudy Giuliani to do all the speaking for him We'll see how that one goes again Okay, last cowboy. What do you think? Uh, I think it's absolutely preposterous what what they're trying to do to end the begin with um To tell somebody that they can't Use their freedom of speech. That's unconstitutional and um, thankfully we still have that right in this country and um, if they number one the judge should be prosecuted for Trying to stop his freedom of speech And if anything that judge needs to be in prison Okay Blaze, I was gonna say what nash said took the words right out of my mouth I was gonna say what earl sectors were all in the right click on this We don't agree on everything all the time But if you think you can tell your judge badge around and tell one of the most successful men in the world He is not allowed to talk about his own case And find him now he paid five minutes. So that judge is in trouble If don't want to go against him, he can probably bury him and take his job Um in this country freedom of speech so people are celebrating depth but a president cannot talk about his own case Give me a break okay So let's let's go here. So this is this is starting to really escalate Where trump is in the news every day for negative stuff and now trumps lawyer kenneth She's bro has pleaded guilty to a felony Just as a jury selection was getting underway in his trial So now His lawyer has pleaded guilty In the trump case and he's taking a plea deal So is his lawyer going to start? Rating on trump. Is that what's happening here? And if he rats on trump and takes a plea deal against trump Does that mean the trump is going to get jail time because That's another lawsuit everything against trump right now So what do you think about this earl? hear about this I don't think that he's going to try to save his own rear end from whatever he does because they already pled guilty to it so I mean He's not trying to save his own skin. I mean, it's going to deplete him from the case as a witness if he's in prison, right? yeah So Yeah, prison is not worried about it like that their words. No good It just seems crazy like it seems like it's escalating and all this stuff is starting to fall apart And all these people are starting to turn on trump and they're doing everything they can to try to throw trump under the bus Including getting his own lawyers to turn on him getting everyone to turn on him You know and they're just doing everything they can because we're getting close to the election And they're worried that trump's going to be biden because anyone that has a heartbeat could pretty much be biden so Nash cowboy, what do you think's gonna happen here, man? Like is this bad news for trump? I I don't think it is um I think a lot of it's I mean, what's the plea deal? Do you know what I'm saying? Uh, what did he what did he agree on? um Because a plea deal is a deal you got to do something for to get whatever Uh He knows Again, the whole thing smoking mirrors to hide what's really going on in this world I have someone in the group chat saying that trump was he goes what planet are you guys on trump was the worst president in the world? See, this is the problem There's people that actually think the trump was they get opinions in the world and they actually think biden is a good president Meanwhile, biden is creating world war funding ukraine war funding the israel hamas war and Now looking to get another hundred billion dollars So that they could continue to fund these wars and meanwhile america is about to go bankrupt on november 17th And people are thinking that biden is doing a good job This is what's wrong with the world right there people are just clueless What do you think about this blaze? Well, the person in the chat hey all the power to you you got your own opinion, but anyways, um Crazy look somebody bailing out taking a plea bargain is just to scare trump Okay, and they're they had that person in the back room for quite a while You know, they gave him the ups and downs. Look, you don't do this. You don't do that. They scared him So it's not gonna it's not gonna affect trump. It's gonna actually benefit him and what kind of a lawyer? Down the line, I mean you're barking about confidential things between you and a client, you know, that's like kind of like a doctor thing too I don't know Trump's a smart man. He'll sue everybody Yeah, I agree. I think I think they all should shut up because when he takes office. He's gonna fire him off 100% he will he's gonna fire everybody. You're all gone when chump gets in the office. You're all goodbye So keep on trying. That's why they're all against them rich Because they know if he takes president There's so many jobs up for grabs. You're done. They're they're finished So now they're feeding us lies about them to make us hate them Which we're gonna like them more because he's being bullied by his own government 100% and how many anti-bullies to let all you guys know Oh, I know you are So listen, let's change gears from trump. Let's talk about this war. We've got, you know, a few minutes left So I want to get your guys opinion on this So Israel is Bombing Gaza hard Obviously, we know what happened on october 7th when israel got attacked Palestinians hamas iranians Middle eastern people celebrated victory on october 7th as Over a thousand israelis were slaughtered men women and children 260 young adults were slaughtered at a festival on a jewish holiday there's still 200 hostages that have been taken that haven't been released and now Israel has bombarded Gaza Thousands of palestinians have now died now people are asking for a ceasefire now. They're asking for Uh, the israelis to stop. They're calling it genocide China and russia met this week biden met with Netanyahu the prime minister of israel this week the uk met with the prime minister of israel this week Seems like the whole world is talking about this war and then on friday two american israeli hostages were released Israel vows to fight until victory After the hamas released two american hostages and when they released those american hostages They pretty much insulted america and biden And pretty much blamed biden for this war What do you think about this move to obviously it's great that two hostages got released What do you think about this move? Why did this happen? Does this mean that more hostages are going to be released? What do you think about this king girl? Well, I think they had to show that they actually had them and that they was actually still alive or being held um So they could actually hold the others for ransom. I mean this by no means makes the group Or organization that is holding these people good people because if that was the case Why are they holding them in the first place against their will without? Uh court cases are being imprisoned within something other than War crimes or pow Because these people have nothing to do with it. Obviously they were just at the concert Um, but you know if they are guilty of something hold a trial, you know put them for an attorney Um, but we'll have to see from there, but I mean that they're bad people You know that are holding these people Otherwise, they wouldn't have held them hostage to begin with that's not saying that either side is good It's just saying that the one side is trying to gaslight themselves isn't doing a good job because of Some of the moves they have taken Okay What do you think nash cowboy? Yeah, I'm with their own. Let's not forget that they they took them hostage should be doing Um, not with either side. I don't want to see any innocent people die or you're hurting Even just held hostage but You know People try and put rules on war It's it's war things happen um, and unfortunately Things get really out of hand sometimes and people don't care about basic morals um, so You know Should they have taken them to begin with? No, absolutely not Do I think it's a good sign that they're releasing them or did release them? No, I think they're trying to play the good guy Um, but I'm not again. I'm not on either side. They're playing the good guy, but they still got 200 hostages Yeah They return one percent of their hostages and now they're the good guys Meanwhile, 99 of the hostages are still being held So it's it's very interesting Absolutely Blaze, what do you think about this two american israeli hostages have been released. They're going back to chicago illinois What do you think about this? Obviously, it's good news, but Is this is this a sign that more hostages are coming home? Like what do you think? I'm up in the air about it all to be honest with you. Um Yeah, it's a good sign, but there's 200 people that we don't even know if they're alive right now You know So They want to see spire. They want this and that and X is Look at israel made a fair warning the last time something happened and If you're palestinian You know, you outnumber the humas, you know, I mean You got to help Stop it They got to do it themselves. They got to help They can't just sit there and let these people hide in their doors and get blown up, you know Like they're dropping bombs to get them back But you know, these people went into israel And savagely looked people in the eye and took their lives and raped them and hurt them. So It's going to be hot. It's a bit of pill to swallow for israel and I think they're going hard and they're not gonna They're not going to listen to anybody. They're just going to keep going I'm sorry to say it, but they're not happy right now and it's going to take quite some time So That'll be 200 because if it's not then they're going to wipe out the whole entire lot. I'm telling you Yeah, I mean, they're they're devastating gaza. There's over 4 000 palestinians now dead And that's very very sad and I really don't know what the path to peace is and you said to american To american israel, american, right? That's right. So what does that do for israel? Where is there people So the people you want to stop fighting you give the hostages to the other country That's right That makes zero sense That's why I wanted to get your opinion on it as americans. Yeah, we just thought about this. So let's talk about this So now there's protests happening all over the world Israel hummus war sweeps the globe as nations ramp up security So literally there's protests happening all over the world now These protests are happening in schools in america. These protests are happening all over canada They're happening all over the middle east. They're happening in spain. They're happening in france. They're happening in belgium There's been murders that have happened and there's been different leaders That are I guess terrorist groups that have asked for terror and for death In other countries and we're starting to see that now. We've seen deaths in belgium France today. We had a death in america, which i'm going to talk about shortly What do you think about these protests that are happening all over the world? Are these peaceful protests are these evil protests or are these protests escalating more hate? That's what I see is happening I don't find these peaceful protests at all. I feel like these protests are escalating and it's causing more anger More fighting more death. What do you think about these? Supposite protests that are happening all over the world where they're asking for fire and hate And they're asking for death to jews and americans all over the world. What do you think about this, eril? I think that people have the right to stand up and protest whatever they want and stand in the streets and Express themselves or their heritage or where they come from no matter what the audiology or idiocracy is But at the same time, you know, don't be asking for peace and then Or one side to quit firing rockets Or killing people when in the same part of the speech you're talking about wiping out Or eradicating the people who have oppressed you Or taken over the land because it goes to show that you're not looking for peace or a ceasefire at all You're only looking at a ceasefire from one side And that's it so your side can win Yep, that's it I agree with that. What do you think nash cowboy? Um, totally I'm totally with eril on my own He's gotten out of hand. Um, I I sent you an article a couple days ago. I think that were Uh, a little muslim boy was killed by a landlord and he tried to kill the mother too And said that all the terrible things should die. That's terrible. That's sick of you. That's sickening. That's a little child and And it's going on both sides, you know, it's It's horrible. They're targeting the jews here. They're targeting the palestinians here palestinian It's horrible and something's gotta stop And it's much different in big cities That shit don't fly around here Um, I think it's gonna come down to something big Yeah, I mean, I don't see what the pathway of the piece is you got, you know, when I speak to israelis They they do not want to stop until The hamas and terrorist groups are wiped out Which is almost impossible and When I speak to palestinians or hamas or lebanese or anyone in the middle east They don't want to stop until the jews are wiped out It's been like that since the beginning of the bible. It's been like that for thousands of years So what's gonna stop it now? I mean who can stop it now All I want is to pray for peace for everyone So that our children can grow up in a safe world where they don't have to be afraid of terrorism But unfortunately it seems like terrorism is only growing stronger as this war Grows into its second week It's only escalating the anger and the tensions Between the different religions the different nations and everybody that's involved one way or another And I want to show you guys One more article but before that I want to get your opinion on this blaze. What do you think about this? Well I'm up in the uh, I really don't have comrades on this one It's just going to escalate my opinion the wrong way, you know And I'm trying to be good and you're trying to be you know neutral, you know It's really stuck on a situation. It's not nice to see people die of any culture any age any size The problem is bro is that you're protesting on american soil Okay outside colleges We have nothing to do with what happened there You're making mayhem and havoc State to state province to province in canada And but you're over there in the same breath seeing how much you hate americans I freedom of speech is being abused bro and freedom to protest Being abused It's another thing to protest on our soil. What happened on our soil I think it's okay to protest but when you start hating on people It becomes a you're starting to wish death on people. Yes. I think it goes far and I think people should be arrested Because those people Maybe you have that much hate in your heart and you're going on the streets and talking about murdering people I think you should be arrested. I don't care. Well, one of the da's is going to get mad And he's going to set an example on one of the rallies. You'll see it has to happen because it's happening Oh, it's gonna happen because it's people people's kids out there. They're trying to go to school, man Of course and kids are I've been watching there's kids afraid of going to school because they think they're going to get killed You got kids working four jobs over there trying to go to school and they can't they can't do not There's girls that are going to harvard that are like paying a hundred thousand dollars a year to go to school And their families are paying a hundred thousand plus a year to go to school And some of them don't even have that freedom at school because every time they go to school They have to hear people protesting how they want to kill juice How is that okay? That's not that's not freedom of speech. That's hate speech So yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't want to hear Jewish people talking about killing Palestinians either I don't want to hear either of it. No, I don't want to see anybody die I want to continue to push for peace now I got one more article that's very disturbing and I want to share with you guys And this blew my mind today and like I got to get your guys opinion on this So a prominent a prominent Jewish leader was found stabbed to death in Detroit This is her right here. Her name is Samantha wall 40 years old She was the president of a local synagogue. She was found stabbed to death 40 years old Now when I read the article what really bothered me about it is they say They have no motive Really there's no motive A prominent Jewish leader in Detroit Who is praised for her work building ties between Jews and Muslims? So she was trying to make things better between Jews and Muslims has been found dead with multiple stab wounds outside of her home 40 years old stabbed to death and they're saying that they have no cause No leads no motive for this death So you're telling me there's people protesting all over the world saying they want to kill Jews There's people protesting all over the world against Israelis And now a prominent synagogue leader gets stabbed to death outside of her home and you have no cause for death I got I got like come on. Let's be real Like People are talking about being bombed being murdered being slaughtered and you have no motive for this death Earl, what do you think about this brother? I think that there is no motive until there is a suspect that has been found to have a motive Okay, now could it have been a motively driven attack? Yes But they won't know until they have a suspect of who actually did it Um because an attack is an attack until you have someone who did it to clear the motive of why they would have done it Okay, because for all we know she could have been robbed And it could have been something completely not even motive driven by this High likelihood it is however, you can't set a definitive motive on it Until there is a suspect Okay, well said Nash Cowboy, what do you think about this? I'm gonna throw on that People outside of outside of the states might not know how right Detroit is But there's killings there all the time. Yeah, um, is it likely that there is a motive and it's just because she's a Jewish leader yes But there are a lot of killings in Detroit and she caught and Memphis and a little rock, you know that Have nothing to do with stuff like this. So you know odds are what's going on that There's a 50-50 shot that it is motivated because just because she's a Jewish leader Um, that's where I'm leaning Um, but just like the little Muslim boy I just talked about That was targeted just for being a Muslim. That's wrong Uh, if this isn't motivated, it's still wrong Um, the fact is a wonderful person probably got marty Absolutely blaze. What do you think about this? Well, this is happening in the American soil now guys This is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to be a Muslim or A Palestinian that done this because she was trying to make the two Relate right correct one of those people So maybe a Jewish person Right got pissed at her Because they believed in the peace and it went backwards and the war happened They were like, look what you're promoting and it went backwards. So there's all kinds of motives. But like Errol said Until they get a suspect, you know, we really ain't gonna gonna get a direct motive But my opinion, I think it was somebody on her side that got her because They feel like that she was teaching the wrong thing Let's feel like she's a traitor. My thing is this my thing is this guys I'm worried because it had to have been someone close to her You know if I got mad my thing is this guys I'm worried that we are getting to a point where and we've talked about this Where this war is now going to get into our backyards, right? I'm worried that this hate All of the potential people running into the southern border all of the potential immigrants and refugees coming into Canada This hate these protests this constant Anger is boiling up and is going to start affecting us in our neighborhoods So when I see this article Right away. I'm like, this is what I was worried about This is what I'm concerned about. This is not just a war in the middle east We've already seen people in belgium get murdered A teacher in france get murdered now. We see a lady That's a leader of a jewish synagogue Prominent leader of a jewish synagogue get murdered and no one knows who did it. Well, of course, they're not going to just admit it Because they don't want them to know that they're in our neighborhoods But this is a problem a global problem Terrorism is a global problem. It is everywhere And until we can eliminate terrorism We are going to have to live in fear and that's what essentially what terrorists want They want us to live in fear It doesn't matter if it's in the middle east if it's canada the united states europe africa asia They want us to live in fear and unfortunately in my opinion. They're winning They're winning because look at what's happening. There is murders being happening all over the world And it's just the beginning and it's only going to escalate when biden is putting out 100 billion dollars of funding and aid That tells me that this war ain't going to stop anytime soon And he's going to be funding another 60 billion to ukraine which tells me that that war ain't going to stop anytime soon Now we're hearing that china could be invading taiwan imminently So there's all these wars that are escalating and starting to happen all over the world and it's only getting worse So my question to you guys is this before we say goodbye to all of you We've been live for over an hour Thank you guys for your time and your effort and your energy and for our bull and bear show episode number 22 I just want your guys final thoughts like If you guys were the president through the united states, what would you do to solve this? How do we get to a pathway to peace? It's obviously getting worse. It's obviously escalating things are getting heated What would be your solution? What would be your pathway to peace? If you were the president united states start with you king row That's gonna be a tough one I would have to say You're going to have to sit down with the tribal leaders of the palestinian government and the people And then you're also going to have to sit down with other tribal leaders across the middle east get a group consensus of what each party wants and clear record representation from both sides And then you're going to bring that to the table of israel And you're going to set it up now There's the two-party system that rules over the area of palestine israel There probably needs to be two within just palestine itself for the hamas group And then also palestine itself whether they split off and separate And it's up to the people to decide whether they want to rule under be ruled by terrorism Or they want to be ruled by a standing government That represents them rather than just gets them killed Okay, well said Nash cowboy, you're the president united states. What are you going to do to solve this problem? Well, if I was president of the united states I'll put my fingers on that new button and look at my vice president url and say hold my bear bubble while she is no I would I would have never let it get this far to begin with um, I would have never funded ukraine And Just you know, there's a there's a fine line there Because in one sense we lay down the law with other countries and in another sense we Help other countries so You've got to find that Perfect balance and saying hey You can't do this Or we're stepping in full throttle. There's no there's no funding ukraine given them little weapons. No, there's But you know donald trump when he said something shit stopped he got us out of four wars for a reason um It's because people knew But with this with this presidency that's in there now It's cowards. Oh, well, we'll give you billions of dollars just to help you No, it doesn't work like that. He's adding fuel to the fire constantly by giving the weapons giving the money He doesn't want these wars to end. He's pure evil Absolutely. He doesn't want the deaths to stop. He wants them to be escalated. He wants it to continue He's sending warships to the middle east. He's escalating the the the war He's making it worse. So blaze. You're the president of america. How do you stop this war? These simple I would send special forces in Have them do their job because they can Try and find what where the hostages are And get them out of there and then move out. That's it But but here's the thing The problem is when you see a president talk and say that we want to give 100 billion dollars to give people You know an opportunity and this and that and you walk down the street to your own town and people are sleeping on park benches That have paid taxes in their life I'm sorry, ukraine. I'm sorry israel, but at the end of the day We don't look good taking people's tax money and giving it to you guys and then watching our own stop and suffer And mom so dad's I can't even get a benefit To help them get those kids to be the future President and soldiers of this country or businessmen or business women So i'm against it. It's a linsky. You got enough punk. You're an actor. You're not even a president no more Stop begging. I'm done with him But as far as israel we got to stay there We got to do what we got to do Our duty is to get our people back to the united states of america. That's our first duty Anything after that is is helping. Okay. We need to get our people back at asap Because i'm a dad that lost their kid and I can imagine what these parents feel like right now Yeah, it's terrible. Well my solution would be this I say all the powers of the world get together and say listen, we have a major problem in this world It's called terrorism. Let's eliminate it Let's eliminate terrorism. Why are we killing civilians? Why are we killing innocent people? None of this makes any sense. Let's all work together as a world and just eliminate all the evil in this world I think they work daily on That should be that should be the only thing that everyone's focused on every war should be a war on eliminating terrorism Eliminate all the terrorism and all these problems go away The military's constantly If Hamas, which is a terrorist group funded by Iran supposedly Is eliminated Israel and Palestine are working hand-to-hand perfectly. Well The Palestinian people are afraid of the Hamas, which is a terrorist group that's occupying Gaza as the The political leader in that region Same problem is happening in Lebanon where the people are very poor and hezbollah another terrorist organization is occupying that land Why do we allow these terrorists to exist and coexist in our lives? This is the problem. It's not the civilians that are dying. That's not solving anything It's the terrorists that are killing people for fun or for sport that need to be eradicated A lot of politicians talk about it, but they're not actually going all the way to eliminate the problem This is the problem at the heart of everything This is the problem and until we figure out how to eliminate this It's only going to get worse because they consistently get funded They're consistently getting trained and they're consistently recruiting new people new young men typically To carry out these heinous disgusting acts On women men and children of all ages all over the world and it needs to stop All we want to do is pray for peace. I continue to pray for peace and that's all I want for Everyone. I'm not picking a side. I want the guns to be put down. I want the weapons to be put down I want the Israelis and the Palestinians to coexist Everyone should have land where they can coexist every child Every woman every man should be able to wake up in the morning and feel safe Every child should be able to go to school grow up have a future all over the world and unfortunately we live in a world that's fueled by money greed and evil At the highest level And what we need to do is we need to come together and eradicate that evil Eradicate the elite that are making the decisions and using people as pawns to benefit their own agendas Gentlemen, thank you for joining me. Uh, we got three guys from america here. I love your guys opinions Thank you for joining us. Hey girl. Thank you for joining us. Nash cowboy. Thanks for joining us We'll see you guys next week. We appreciate you guys and guys stay safe and have a great weekend Salute Thank you for joining us guys. Thank you guys for watching if you're not waiting. 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