 As we start this podcast I would like to get Sam Pellingrino as the sponsor. Fuck Mount Franklin, fuck Booblai, and yeah, maybe I should just make my own sparkling water. All right dude, I've been hitting the sparkling water like hard, but I mix it with vodka then. Back to Australia, you come back every two weeks from somewhere doing your comedy stuff. Yeah man. Emo, where's that card? Good to be back again, oh, it's been a minute. There's no structure anymore. We already know who he is, and what he's done. Go back to the previous episode to meet him again for the first time, but Emo's been around for a while. Fringe is coming up again, and he's here to talk about that, but then talk about his stories, because he's been everywhere. He's been at Edinburgh Festival the last 12 months. He's been on a cruise ship with many old people that he sold out for. Well they are, nothing else to do, so may as well. And yeah, other places, where else did you go last year? Last year, in terms of countries like New Zealand, Fiji, Benewatu, New Caledonia. Man, these cruise ships got me in a different country. So often now, which is cool man, like it's like a paid vacation, I really love it man. You found the hack. Yeah man, like crack the G code with life man. Like I'm definitely blessed and favored, so I'm enjoying it man, really enjoying it. So was it like, how many days were you out? What's the longest amount of time you were out in sea? The longest amount of time, it was two weeks when I did like two back-to-back cruise ships. So there was no docking or anything? It did, but then I did another run, so like two back-to-backs with the same ship. So I stayed on board for two nights, and then my next run started when the old passengers got off and the new ones got on. And by old passengers, like everyone's old, so that's not what happened. So you were doing stand-up on the show? Yeah, on the cruise ships, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then how many shows do you do a day on the ship? It depends man, like so they can get me on like on a week run, or six day run, and they can give me a show every single night, or they can give me three shows tonight, three shows tomorrow, then give me two shows tonight, two shows the next day, day off, two shows, like they just structure it, how they structure it, you know what I mean? I was always cool anyway man, like I like just bagging them out, and then I got free time. And what's the general age group on these cruises? Like predominantly, like old people, like yeah, we're talking about like 50 plus, but then you get like little spurts too, like the grandparents have bought the whole entire family, you got the boyfriend and girlfriend that wanted to try out cruise ships, then you get like the mother that wants to bring the kids, or the mother that wants to bring one kid, and just the partner. Yeah, it's a different mixture. It's a different mixture man, but it's like, it's mad cool man, like you can always tell what kind of demographic you're gonna get with like certain ships, like the coral princess is like a graveyard. No repeat customers on that one. Yeah, just like, and then you get like the splendor, which you get like fairly young, liminosa also kind of like. The party vibes cruise. Yeah, so the Royal Caribbean is like party vibes, Virgin, haven't done that yet, but like that's the plan for this year. Kicking them all off. Yeah, yeah. Do you have one that's like your ultimate stadium? So Virgin is the Virgin Cruises, they're supposed to be like the epitome of. The Mount Everest of cruise ships. Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh yeah, you gotta go do the virgins. Yeah, yeah. Amazing. So I'm looking forward to that man. So how do you get your first gig there? I get your first gig on there, you gotta have a, so when I first wanted to get into cruise ships, I went to Brisbane to go perform at the sit-down cause for Delhi, who the guy that owns the sit-down comedy club, he books the comedians for P&O. So I went there to go do, he has to see you do an hour there, but a day before my solo show, they went into a lockdown. That kind of like prolonged things, but then I got my big break last year with Carnival, like Rosemary, shouts out to Rosemary, who signed me on to Australia Global, which is a sub company to the Miami company that we vibe with. Yeah, it's cool man. How many other comedians would be on the same cruise ship? There's usually two of us on board, but sometimes you get three. So me and another comedian, it could be from a different company, or it could be from the same company. So I toured with like Bart Freeburn, Gordon Sutherland, I can't wait to do some with Ben Dasser, my boy Joe White, Christian. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of comedians that you don't know that they do cruise ships until you get on cruise ships, you know what I mean? You're like, how have you been surviving all these years just doing comedy full-time cruise ships, man? That's the one. Yeah, man. And then you have a Mrs. Now, she's been on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, shouts out to Alia. She's in town at the moment. Actually, we were in Melbourne for Mark Knatnoy's wedding. And some gigs fell through for her, which was supposed to be on the 28th of December. And this is like how cool our job is, like something falls through on the other side of the world where you're supposed to go back to. He's like, oh, screw it. Why don't I just work here? So she just, yeah, she just up and decided. She only came with like enough clothes for 10 days. So we just been buying like clothes. She's been wearing my clothes, actually. That's what chicks do. Yeah, yeah. I think she came in with my overalls the other day. Was that your overall? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I complimented her on that. Yeah, so we'll just be taking it day by day, but like she came here, we got to spend our first Christmas together. New Year's, I was working. I work every New Year's. Yeah, man, you're glowing. Yeah. You've changed, bro, since you got a Mrs. Oh, dude, like what's that saying? Love what you're doing. I've never worked another day in your life. Like, I'm really loving comedy right now, man. So like New Year's Eve, I was with Jamal. Jamal was there as well. Like we're at the comedy lounge for New Year's Eve, which was cool, man. We're all just partied afterwards. Yeah. What's it like dating another comedian, though? It's cool, man, because we get to run, like get to run material across with each other, like quite oftenly comedians. To me and my boy Joe, sometimes I'd just be like, man, why isn't this working? I'll just fling it over to Joe. I'm like, yo, what do you think of this? Before you even find out what it is that I'm trying to do, it's like, yo, what if you were to change that around? And then sometimes it just takes a convenience, like outlook for something to work. So we just will constantly just like bantering with each other. We gig together, we tour together. So yeah, it's actually quite fun, man. It's quite the asset in a way as well. Because you've got right in the same household, the missing link, you know what I mean? So when you can't quite figure something out, you've got the missing link just right in front of you, so yeah. So where else have you gone around overseas that wasn't a result directly from a cruise ship? Oh, last year I went toward North America, which was cool, man. I did the Canada fringes. So I did Montreal, Ottawa, and Toronto, which was cool. And then we toured all over like the US. So I did some rooms in Chicago. Yeah, dude, I did the Life Factory in Chicago. I don't know if you know, the Life Factory is a room where Kramer went nuts and started calling people the N word. Damn it, Kramer. I love that TV show. You rolled it for me. So when you're in Canada and all the US cities, how long were you in each one of them for? Probably like a maximum of seven days. Wow, it's a long time for each city. Yeah, so when we were doing fringe, it was only six shows or seven shows across the week. So it was eight days. So we'll be there for eight days and that will consist of six shows. And then we're always reverted back to Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh was base for us. So we'll go to Pittsburgh, spend like five, six, seven days. And then it'll be like, oh, we've got to go to Montreal for the fringe there. And then we'll drive down to Montreal, which was the furthest we went anyway. Montreal was like eight hours. Ottawa was six and a half. Toronto was five. So we're always reverted back to Pittsburgh, which was cool, man, because it felt, because it was like a three and a half, or like three and a bit months tour. So just having that place as a base was cool. So like always, oh yeah, we're about to go back home for a week. Yeah, how much protein did you have? Protein? This time round, I think I ate protein like once. Oh yeah? Like once, like the first time I went out there, like I couldn't get enough of the stuff, man, but like once you've gone somewhere, you start, I'm a firm believer when you're traveling, never eat from the same place twice, you know what I mean? And same with like, don't eat the same food as well, especially when you're trying to like expose yourself to what is a possibility of an exposure to your palate, if you will. Oh yeah, oh yeah. We did that in Asia, when we went to Asia, like we had one pack. It was like, yeah dude, like it was amazing, but we can't go there again today, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yes, it's just like always go somewhere different. I mean, when I went to Bali, there were some hot spots there, and there's a one specific restaurant. Shit, I forgot the name of it already. It's so good. Oh, it's the worst. You ate there twice? Yeah, I ate there twice. Yeah? But we had different food. Okay, yeah, yeah. So we had different dishes, and yeah, it was just ridiculous. When I was in Bali, I went and tried Bubba's Shrimp. Oh yeah. Did you like that? We went there and sat down, and then everything's deep fried. I don't eat deep fried. I did, like it was like cheesy shrimp. I loved it, man. Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's nice. Once again though, we're just like, we can't go back there again. Yeah. Well, not on this trip anyway, because otherwise, you know, exposing yourself to the possibilities. I remember the name Shelta. It's called Shelta. Shelta? Shelta. It's in, I think it's Chengu or Seminyak, or one of the, but yeah, Shelta. It is, it's bougie. Yeah. A little bit on the bougie, like they decked it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's proper, and they've got a lot of workers working in there, and you can see the kitchen, and they played it up real nice. They're very attentive and all that. Proper Balinese people working in the kitchen too? Yes and no. Yeah, there's like multicultural, like Europeans and stuff as well. I like catfish in Edinburgh. Went to this Indian restaurant, bro. Like the lady that was serving us was Indian. I was like, yeah, this place looks legit. They always have the same ethnic group at the front. Yeah, right. But then the person, like the kitchen door swung, and I saw a white dude, I was like, no! No! Oh, that's the worst. Because Edinburgh, like hands down, probably has the worst food I've ever had in any country. Oh my God. Like in any country? No. Like they dimmed everything down, right down to Nando's, like there was like a missing flavor in Nando's. Like the curry was terrible. We eventually found this butcher up the road from where we were staying. And he used to marinate chicken wings for us. So after a long day of shit food, we always had chicken wings to look forward to. Like it was all, we just grew up chicken wings at like 2 a.m. every single night. I also, I also. Yeah man, it was like the emergency acts behind the glass, honestly. You mentioned the cultural catfishing in restaurants. There's a really nice bakery in Scarborough. Okay, what's it called? It's the shitest with names right now, but it's like just up the road from the rendezvous. Like you just got that little road, the Scarborough Beach Road. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just to the left as you go up. I think I've been to that bakery. Dude, it's legit. Yeah. And it's just all Asian people. But it's a French bakery. Yeah, cause, so the French had a big hand in Vietnam. So hence like where the Barmy came from. So when the French came and occupied Vietnam, like a lot of their influences, like it was the croissant. Like that. Yeah, so there's a lot of French influences when it came to Vietnam. But like Scarborough Beach Road is full of gems in terms of food. Oh yeah, 100%. Like holy shit. It is like, I would. Even the Nandos is like top tier, like yeah. When I was in the bakery though, I looked back at the back, I'm like, surely there's a French, oh, there is. Yeah, there's a French. They have the token French guy. He had a French shirt on. And it's... No, he just, he sounded French. He didn't look French. And then there's the placebo stuff. It's like on, what's that, My Modern Family? You see that skit where he's just like... Oh wait, when he went to France. Yeah, it's like Burger King is that way. And then he put on a scarf and have a speaking French too. And then he ordered the pigeon, he's like what? Yeah, I'm not French. Yeah, but there's other places. I have this rule of thumb that's a theory. Any Asian barista, like they will do a good job. Any time I get a coffee, if it's an Asian barista, the coffee is always good. Well, I have a thing. Anything from Japan, it's always gonna be good. I'm going to Japan, seven days, boy. You going to Japan? Yeah, because the Japanese are not knowing for doing anything half-assed. Yeah. Like they will kill themselves in honor. You know what I mean? This crew's on to shit. Yeah, aw, right. And they brought this great dishonor to the family. I don't know where that accent is coming from. Anything from Japan, electronics. Like we're talking about food, like wagyu. It's why I plug the den on. Japanese company, 100-year-old. Shots out to the Japs, man. Thanks to the Japs. Yeah. I don't know. When you got to Japan? I'm gone on the 19th. So I've gone to Tokyo for one month. This month? Yeah. So next Friday. Yo, dude. Yeah. And you've gone for how long? Two weeks. So we land in Tokyo and we stay there over nine. You and your wife? Yep. And the wife. Just annual vacation? Yeah, sort of. So how it works is I didn't really take time off during the Christmas break. I don't really see it as taking time off or taking a break because I love what I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just work a lot. You still just be working when you're out there. There's a sense of burnout even if you do something you love. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm really addicted now. I'm really honed in. I know what I need to do. Like really, really. So exciting year for me. But we've been planning for Japan for 12 months now. And because it's winter there, it's snowing. Are you going to go? No, snowboarding. Yep, I'm sick sick. We've been training for it. Oh, for real? Yeah, so. With no snow. Yeah. Good question. I thought we'd never get there. So I go to Athletic Institute. Another plug, always plug-in. And my guy, Chris Ormsby, he's been my trainer and my mate for years. We met at uni and he's good luck. And Corey Greens, Jim, Athletic Institute, Wangara, plug, plug, plug. Yeah, we've just been training, like doing squats, mobility work. I was like, I thought you found yourself a simulated snow. That would be sick. I don't think it'd get much business in Perth because people are like, it would be gimmicky, like the fake wave thing. But yeah, so I've just been trying to get my strength up, but also the balance. The balance strength and that. Didn't try to get too swell. Try to lose a bit of fat so I don't have to haul my ass up every time. And then, yeah, Sabine's been absolutely mad with it. So she's been dominating with it. But we went there last week with our snow gear, like our snowboard, and we put everything on. And I was doing fucking 180s and shit on the fake grass turf. It wasn't going, yeah, I was just on the spot because I was just like practicing doing 360s and stuff on the spot. Yeah, that's what's up, man. And, yeah, I started to nail it. And I'm like, yeah, cool, I'm ready. I am ready. And then, yeah, Sabine was really balanced as well. So snowboarding was on the list? Yes. Definitely Weigu. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think that's like the factory where they print them. Yeah. Yeah, like, I can't wait to go to Japan. Oh, I did it. Have you ever been? No, I haven't, man. I haven't been to Japan, but I... We should go together. Oh, imagine that. That would be funny as fuck. Someone's getting arrested. We'd do skits and shit because, like, I am the best. I am more myself and have the most confidence, like, when Jamal's recording me out in the street because he's got that comedy sense of humor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I talked to Dave Hughes about this as well. He was on the pod last week. And, you know, the Idiot Abroad, Ricky Gervais, and what's his name? Carl, someone? I know Ricky Gervais. Yeah. That's a show? Yeah, there's a show called Idiot Abroad. It was on SBS back in the day. And yeah, his best mate, Carl, he would send him to places, experiences. And Carl was a little bit of like a... He'd be naggy. He'd be like, what the fuck is this? This is bullshit. This is bullshit. But it would be, like, produced and stuff. And Ricky would set him up for, like, failure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so funny. It was so funny. And I'm like, I want to do that, but call it a tall Idiot Abroad? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tall guy. To start a series? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when you went to New York last time, do you end up doing the five boroughs? I went through three of them. Three of them? I went as far as the Bronx. That's the one borough that I haven't been. Yeah, I went. So I went to every one of the boroughs, except for Bronx. That's the big finish to just get robbed. Fucking no. So I escaped death, I think, because a lot of the comments in the video that I put up. So the story goes like this. I was near the World Trade Center Memorial and I was doing interviews because it was a Friday and there was a whole bunch of food trucks and I was just, like, interviewing people and stuff. And there's this one really well-dressed dude. His name's Brian. And he had a yo-yo and he was doing some cool shit. And I went up to him and just said, would you like an interview? And yeah, he was so chill. And he says he works for the mayor, which is cool. And then, yeah, he was doing yo-yo tricks and stuff. And I said, Brian, where do you recommend that I go, like for food? He goes, out in the Bronx, there's a place that has these Jamaican cakes, these Jamaican, those kind of... The patties. Patties, yeah. And I was like, cool, sick. And then we literally went there the same day or the next day. Took like an hour because of the trains. Yeah. And... The J train, was it? Yeah, yeah. We got out there and there it is right there. And it's like a line out the door. I was like, sick. We got there, made a whole video about it. And then school just finished up. So all the kids were like, trying to get in the back of my videos and stuff. And then, yeah, posted it all. It was a great experience. Nothing harm, no, nothing bad happened. Went home and then posted the video. And then the comments were like, the dude sent him out to the Bronx. Dude sent him out to the hood. Food almost got shot. I was trying to taste some food. I almost died. Did you end up trying the Philly steak cheese or the chopped cheese? I've tried the actual one in Philly. Okay. So it was so good when I was there. But it's been almost like eight years. I definitely want to go back to Philly. Yeah, I'd like the beauty of like Pittsburgh, man. Like, you seem to get this New York and Philly sort of influence. Yeah. Is it a whole there or is it all right? Oh, yeah. It's mad old, man. So Pittsburgh is... They're mad baseball and hockey fans. Yeah, it's known for their bridges. So it's like the city of bridges for something. Like there's bridges everywhere. So they get over things. It's like old. It's like very old. So one thing you'll notice when you get to Pittsburgh is there's a lot of cemeteries. Oh, shit. Yeah. And I think it's because one of the big battles happened over there. Oh, yeah. Have you been to Arlington Cemetery in Washington, DC? No, no. I've been to DC. Okay. Yeah. What about, did you ever go up to Boston at all? No, I've been to NY. I went to New York, did four of the five boroughs. Pittsburgh, drove through Buffalo. It's all, it's a whole thing. And when you get it, it's this tiny little thing. You eat it. It's amazing. And you're like, I need another five. I'm not gonna lie. I was just eating hard dog food. When in Chicago, like, yeah, I was just having a... Next time I'm there, I will be training to be able to just go all out with the food. Yeah. And I'll be walking at least 15,000 steps. You're gonna get it in right now while you're still in that age bracket where you can still just do it. Yeah, but I just want to get to maintenance mode. Yeah. And then I can have a day that I can just go off the shelf, you know, just off the hook, off the rails. Because the last time I was there, I think I gained like five kilos. Yeah. It's crazy. I am. And then the sand fran. So, have you been to sand fran? I love sand fran. I mean, the seafood. Dude, how big were the seagulls? Oh my God. They'll fuck you up. I was taking pictures and sending them back over. And people were like, dude, you gotta put something next to it. Like, yeah, but you can't because the seagulls are very hard to trust for. You know, they'll fuck you up. They're like, I should... Literally. Like dinosaurs, man. They're like this big. But if you take a picture of it, it looks like a normal sized seagull because there's nothing to compare it to. Like, they got huge ones at Edinburgh as well. Like, I remember watching one snatch up someone's whole pizza. Oh my God. And then it went... Imagine the shit. It wouldn't let go. Like, it was going down on the pizza. Fuck you, no. Imagine the shit it would take on your car. Oh. Just the whole thing. Yeah, it's breaking windows for sure. Yeah. Speaking of breaking windows, do you see any of that when you were there? Because they're like... In Edinburgh? No, in San Fran. What big time? No, but we stayed, it was only like 10 minutes from the city. That's where it all happens. Which is where Shugnite ended up running over that dude, Terakato, on the set of Straight Outta Compton. Went to where they filmed Baby Boy, which was in South Central. Is it run down or is it alright? No dude, like... So Compton itself, when you get there, like the homes are on like big plots of land, bro. Like the people got like big backyards, like the grass is like... For some reason, these black people, they've got manicured lawns, bro. Like they take care of... It's just they get a little bit shooty. Yeah, yeah. Triggered a bit. Yeah. Because Compton once upon a time was just a predominantly white neighborhood. Yeah. Like that show. Yeah, George Bush Senior used to live in Compton. You know what I mean? There's a whole Netflix series about it. Oh, really? About George Bush Senior, the white dudes, when they first started going to Compton. Yeah. Yeah. It was named after a white dude, too. Yeah. Like Compton is an older white gentleman's name. Yeah. And then the Bloods and the Crips came along in the 60s. Yeah, it's been blackified now. Yeah. So yeah, but the food? Yeah, the food was good. Like, you know, so if you ever out in the hood, soul food is one. Mac took me to Roscoe's Chicken, Chicken and Waffles. Righted. Yeah, I had the Obama, which was like waffles and chicken and maple syrup. I don't know how you feel about this. Like, I don't know if I would like my chicken next to my waffles. I've never tried it, but it's just like, why buy those two specifically and for breakfast? I would still have it. It's just, I'm not going to be having them in one bite. Yeah. Like, I'd segregate. Yeah. I'd have one of the maple syrup, but it all tastes the same. Yeah. When I was there in March, April, it was just New York, and I went to all my favorite places and I was like, it's more expensive, there's less of it, and it's shitter than I remember. Like, I went to Chick-fil-A. Love Chick-fil-A. Yep, yep. Chick-fil-A was good. No, it wasn't as good as I remembered. You didn't like it? No, it was like just... Church's Chicken was I had to? I went to Joe's Pizza. That was all time. What about Fat Burger? You've been to Fat Burger? I've been to Fat Burger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought Fat Burger was the shit. Yeah. I went to Shake Shack. That was shit. Just overpriced, small. In and out, so I'm in California. Yeah, I went in and out. But I went to Five Guys, Five Guys is... Five Guys is good. Est here for me. Dude, they had Five Guys in Edinburgh. Yeah. They have it in Melbourne. Oh, so they have the franchise, the shit out of it. Yeah, it's moving here. I doubt it will come to Perth because no one has enough money here. Don't doubt play Perth. I would love... I've been trying to sell Perth to them. I'm like, yo, I've got some friends of mine that moved to Melbourne like 20 years ago. I'm like, yo, you've got to come back to Perth now. Like, we're upgrading. We've got a crystal cream now, you know that? That's my selling point. Well, all the bloody real estate agents, they're all fucking on TikTok saying, oh, if you want to increase your portfolio, buy something in Perth. You don't need to have to go there. Yeah, sweet. Yeah, fuck our whole thing up. We're struggling to get a house here ourselves. Yeah, I did. Oh, yeah, guys, yeah, fucking go to... They'll do what they did to Sydney. Yeah. Like, make everything unaffordable. I've got five houses, but I can't afford a sixth one in Sydney. What do I do, real estate agent? Go to Perth. Go to Perth. You don't even have to go to Perth. Go ruin it for them. Sorry for the interruption, but this show would not be possible without the help of Bright Tang Brewery. They are the major sponsor of the Sevo show. Huge shout-outs to them. Check them out. Great beers. Great people. Great everything. And, well, let's get back to the episode. I can't remember for them. But that's the thing. They calculate our income based on people working at the mines. Wow. So whenever you're looking for a rental, like here, it's because you get there, there's like 20 people there for a home, I think. And then someone will be like, if you give it to me, I'll pay $70. I've done that myself. Yeah, I'll pay $70 over the $400 that you're asking for. So I'll pay it's $470. And something extra, if you know what I mean. So then this dickhead moves out a year later, and the gold rate is now $470. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's no longer $400 now. It's $470. The desperate, the desperate. My wife said to me this morning, there's a house that's being rented out in Bentley near their friend's house, and they're charging $320 per room in the house. Yeah, that's because Bentley is near the university. Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, it's probably because of the university. So they're charging those curtain university. Sandalink subsidizes it so they can get away with it, but I'm just like, man, that is stealing. Yeah, man. It's become unaffordable now. Yeah. I'll be damned. Before you know it, I probably wouldn't be able to live in Mainlands. The bubble will pop eventually, and every economist, an economist, will start from scratch again. They're all like, oh, it's going to go down in 2025 and 2026 and 2032, we should be good. And then Gen Z doesn't want to go into the mines because they're fucking lazy. And not lazy, but lazy. And then the next generation, they're all like, what do you mean I don't get an iPad? When do you think the bubble will pop then? Oh, fuck, I don't know. They said the economy is going to go to shit this year. Yeah, we had a little bit of a, like we had like a lazy recession last year. Yeah, a lazy recession. But the middle class is definitely disappearing. Yeah. I've heard a lot about that. It's going to become like the States. Yeah. Like a huge divide. Before you know it, we're working for tips. And it's going to be, or like the Civil War, the last Civil War in America was 158 years ago. 17, no, 18 fucking... We're Lincoln. 60, yeah, one. We're Lincoln? When Lincoln, the South. Yeah, the South and the North and the South. But now... Confederates. Now, it looks like it's going to be an East West sort of thing. I'm not saying there's going to be a Civil War. There's a movie actually coming out about this. Okay. It's got Kirsten Dunst in it. Jamie, can you pull up the movie title? No, he's in his zone. But yeah, there's a movie coming out very soon. Yeah, just go Kirsten Dunst's next movie about Civil War in America. And it's like, it looks real. Obama actually has a production, or he's funding a production company. And they have a movie that came out recently called Leave the Whale Behind. And that looks so fucking real. I definitely will check that out. Holy shit. Guess what I read up when I was on my way down here? There's whispers that Michelle might be running for presidency. Get it. Doing a Clinton special. That's the only thing that makes sense though, because right now Trump is leading the polls. Even though he was... Farah, you got me talking about family in Ukraine, and I've got people that I know in Russia. Okay. And the media is completely bullshit. Yeah, so it's called down? No, no, no. Well, the way that it's been portrayed is fucking bullshit. Okay. Because I'm getting the sources from each side. Life. Family, life. And I'm like, what the fuck? And then I would see a news article, and I'd just send it to them, and then they'd send it back and go, that's not happening. What the fuck is this? And again, there's no agendas. They live there, and they just see it. And the media, whoever is against the media, that's who I go for. Yeah, we've gotten to see how powerful the media has been playing games over the last couple of years, just purely from experience from what we've been witnessing recently. Yeah, I mean, like, there's all this shit that's happened in the last three years, and I see, my focus is on the kids, right? Yeah, dude. The kids need someone, or some people to look up to, that aren't gonna shit the bed and sell out. They're not gonna start fucking selling Prime or shit. They're there for them. And I'm there for them. Did you see that South Park episode that day? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That was so accurate. Because kids were going nuts with this process. Because they don't have anything else to look up to. And then these influences, like Logan Paul, I respect him as a business person, but I don't respect him as a, he's selfish. Like, he is selfish. And you're allowed to be selfish. You can, but... Does he own it? To the point that you need to become selfless. But hey, each their own. If you want to be a selfish person, you just want to get it yourself. Let it be known. Dude's got millions of dollars. Yeah, yeah. Right? And again, all credit to his success. All credit to his success. Yeah. And, but like, it's like, all right, dude. Cool, all right. You're fighting, you fought, did you fight Floyd Mayweather? Was that him? Oh, no. I'm pretty sure he did. He fought some, he fought heaps of people. And like, I actually, I actually respect his brother more, Jake. Because his brother pulled one of the fucking hottest athletes to comedians a lot more. Because they see the world as it is, and they take the comedy out of the tragedy. Whereas other celebrities, they either milk the tragedy and go, oh my God, I'm so, you know, free this country and fuck this country. I'm 60% oppressed. And I'm like, yeah, these lives matter. And this is like, your life doesn't matter because you don't do anything else except for commentate. Yeah. Right? That's what they do. They commentate on what's trending. Yeah. And they leverage that, and then they just build on that. And comedians, they do the same, but they take the piss out of it. Yeah, exactly. I love that. Yeah. This is a huge, evasive, recent stint, Armageddon. It wasn't as best as Supernatural. And I feel like all these other comedians are all coming in going, this is a topic, trans, fucking whatever. And they're like, let's cover it. And I'm keen to see all the comedians in all their different styles. Yeah. Cover it. But at the same time, I'm like, do something new. And that's why I talked to you about Morgan Jay before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was hilarious. He doesn't fucking talk about it. He just talks real. Do you know what special I just recently, just watched, man? And I swear, I'm not using this word loosely. It was a masterpiece. Chappelle's later special. I watched that straight after the Gervais's one. Oh my God, bro. Yeah. He literally said to the world, since we're all so fragile, you guys, I'm gonna make fun of everyone and just watch. If anyone gets offended, he can literally say these words here. What part was offensive, by the way? Oh, you didn't like that one. But the other 50 minutes was cool, though, right? Yeah. So you're, this is about you then, isn't it? Yeah. Like, oh man, like it's such a, like Chappelle is gonna go into the books, man. Yeah, he's a goat. He's done it perfectly. Yeah. And like, when I was watching that, and he goes, do you mind if I tell her like a long story to cut it, like end it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gets his cigarette. He starts talking and I'm just like, this is cool. Yeah. You know? He's earned that, right? Yeah, he has. Other comedians try to do that now, and Dave said this on the podcast. He goes, the people go, who the fuck cares? But it's just his storytelling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Like, Chappelle, he's in a different, he's in a different realm. Like, he works at a different frequency, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think that's why each, every comedian has respect for him because he was that guy that walked away from the 50 million. And that brings me to like Cat Williams right now. Okay. Like, have you heard? Yeah. I believe Cat. Like, I genuinely believe Cat. Like, because like, if you look at it, if history is repeating itself, they called Chappelle crazy. They said he was fucking smoking crack, which he wasn't. They get rid of all of your credibility. And I think that's what they did with Catman. Like, Cat has been saying all this crazy, outlandish stuff, but receipts have been popping out. Yeah. You know what I mean? The receipts are always the best. Yeah, the receipts have been popping out. Like, he's saying, this person stole this, receipts. You know what I mean? Like, there's nothing that you can't fact check apart from the, I read 3,000 books a year. I did the maths on that. No. That's a lot of books. Yeah, you don't do anything else. I mean, you could probably listen to them, but the other one, Kanye. Kanye? Yeah. Kanye, he wasn't even meant to release an album? Yeah, but Kanye does. Kanye does that though. Like, Kanye will have an album ready cocked and loaded and then he'll throw out little teases. Yeah, little teases. And if he's not getting the response that he wants, he reels it back in. Remember Donda? Yeah. How many listening parties before he got to the version that he liked? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like a comedian does it. Yeah. Like, you got a test. Yeah, he's refining it. He released, or he was teasing about the Backstreet Boys sample. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was fire. And I'm like, bro, release that. Like, come on. But then I'm like, okay, what are the other songs like? And then you see these leaks of all these different lists and all these song names. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who is he releasing it with? Is it TY Rocky or some shit? I don't know. No, no, no. It's Kanye. So bad with this. It's Kanye and... Kanye and... Someone with a dollar sign. Thai dollar sign. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, Thai dollar sign. I got it. Thai dollar sign, yeah, yeah. Now he's down, but still was a few. I reckon that's gonna be fire. Yeah, but he was meant to release that already. He'll probably get rid of Thai and Kanye and Kanye. Kanye, Kanye. The Kanye feature in Kanye. That's the Kanye thing I've heard in a long time. Yo, do you know what was so funny about it? He was... So he put out a press, like he apologized to the community that he was offending the anti-Semitic stuff. But then he doubled down the next day. He goes, the doctor misdiagnosed me and I was put onto the wrong. I'm not gonna say what race that doctor was and then at the end of the clip, he goes, he was Jewish. He couldn't help himself. He went back straight back there again. Two guys before he had just apologized. That's right. Oh, fuck sake. Yeah, I do feel for him. Yeah. And I just, it's not about what someone's done, it's what they do next to make themselves better or bring out the receipts or... I think Kanye is that dude that like, we're always gonna forever forgive him. Like Kanye could do something. Remember, we thought it was the end when he snatched the mic from Taylor Swift. Not Tay-Tay, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But he goes back into his little back cave, goes into his... Society's gone into this world though, where if you make one public mistake, they wanna just crush you for it. But at the same time... Kanye's found a way. People's, well, more and more people are finding ways. Like I firmly believe that there is good in everybody. Like whatever they're doing deep down inside, their intention is for a good purpose. There are a couple of people that are pure evil. Not gonna go into who they are or who they were. Not Yahoo. Yep. But I honestly believe that there's a purpose and they're just misunderstood. And you can't let them out into the streets if they're literally harming and physically trying to kill someone, that's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is, you know. But even then, deep down inside, and I'm not justifying murderers or anything at all, deep down inside, they believe... Oh, murder's not murder when you're at war. Exactly. Yeah, murder's not murder when you're at war. If someone believes something in their hearts, of all hearts, you can't change their mind. Yeah, maybe they have a war inside their head and then someone's telling them to do some shit. And that's why we have institutions like prisons. Yeah, mental hospitals. Yeah, mental hospitals. And my wife, she used to work at a mental hospital, Greylands. Okay. And she was working in the cafe, right? And she used to work with a guy that they gave him jobs inside. Yeah, keep him busy. Keep him busy. And this guy had killed his... He killed his, I think, his mom and his sister. Oh. 20 years ago. That's tough. And he had a schizophrenic sort of episode. Episode. Yeah. And so did he get released? Eventually if he... Because he didn't do it in his right mind, right? He gets one day release a week. Oh. Yeah. Supervised? No, he just goes to check back in by a certain time or there they go hunting. Streets are hot. Yeah, but I was like... When I heard that, I was like, you're in the kitchen with this guy. There's knives and shit. What if he has episode then? Huh? What if he has episode then? I mean, she doesn't work there anymore. But I was like, Jesus, you know, like, fuck. But obviously they monitor, they've got psychologists, psychiatrists and all out there and Sabine gets them fed, so they're not grumpy. But yeah, like... What's your wife's profession? She's an interior designer now. Okay. That's a big career jump. Well, definitely wasn't a career for her to be a cafe person in a mental hospital. She was between jobs at the time and... Found the position on Yelp. She actually volunteered originally. Oh, really? Yeah, and then she found a way to get paid because she's a hustler. She gets from the best. She learns from the best. So she designs for weddings and stuff as well? Nah, she does. She likes commercial. Yeah. I said to her, I want a gentlemen club vibe or whatever. Yeah, it's sick. And yeah, she got everything. And I can't wait for Studio Version 2 when we go four times as big. It's going to be sick. Bigest studio? Yeah, I really want it four times as big as this. So this is like 34 square metres and we're using half of it for literally a permanent podcast setup. I can't wait to have four times as big as the entire space. Nice. And then one quarter of it, which will still be the podcast, it'll be boxed off. It'll be all soundproof panels. It'll be inside. I'm going to have the quietest, fucking coldest air conditioner. And maybe depending on weather, if it's like, if it's bottom floor, if it's like a rooftop one, we'll get some vents and get some... You start looking for some ideas? Cigars going, oh, Sabine's got that covered. She's got it covered. Thing is right, like there's a lot of commercial properties in Perth that are like empty, always empty. And now they're all going up for sale, which hasn't been a thing for a while. Now I'm not any commercial property predictor or anything like that, but I think there might be something in that. It might be a good play to invest in commercial property, actually buy it. So instead of just buying it and then hoping someone will lease it out, decorate it, pimp it out, we work shit itself. They went under, right? That big building in the south, you know that big central tower building, the central park building? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one that's got the southwest yellow logo at the top, the pointy one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like fucking 10 floors or something of we work and we work when bankrupt. So how does that work? What happens to that floor space? I mean, obviously they'll figure it out. I don't know the updates. This is all last year. If you wanted to, could you sleep here? No. But you could stay up working all night. But I accidentally have fallen asleep here before overnight. You can stay up as long as you want, though, if you're working, right? Yeah, we've, Jamal and I, we've got the, we felt like it was a land party. We've got the computers here and we're just drinking and having pizzas right across the road. Oh, nice. And yeah, we're just coding and fucking doing, we're working. I feel like I'd cut costs and just have a walk. You know, in Fremantle, they've rezoned it so that all of the, a lot of the main street buildings, you can have residential at the top, commercial at the bottom. Oh, that's nice. That is the dream right there. Yeah, dude. Oh, man. Just roll out. Just rock downstairs. Your pajamas. You got your workers coming in, like, hey guys, how's the drive in? That's the dream, dude. Oh, yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, but they're, they're so expensive. But that is the dream, like. Frio is expensive? Yeah. What area are you living? I live in up north of the river in a place near the suburb of Whitfords. Ah, ah. I don't want to get people doxing. Kids rock up my door. Yeah, I sometimes forget because I talk so much about Maylands on stage. Yeah, yeah, I live in Maylands. There you go. I live on Rodneystall Island. People do get a little bit weird on me sometimes. Okay. I mean, some kids know where I live, but some kids have actually come to my house. I'm just telling them to fuck off. You look like that online. I'm like, yeah, because you're at my house, you fuck it. Like, I'm the nicest person to you, but you come to my house. Until you come to my house. You're a Justin Bieber, you're ass. I had someone snapchat themselves in front of my letterbox once. I was like, ah, that's a bit weird, man. Yeah. I mean, they get, Matthew McConaughey goes, be less impressed and more involved. When you meet someone that you admire or adore, don't just go, can I get a photo? Like, have a conversation. When's the next time you're going to meet them? Yeah. Like, I'm a local, right? You might see me again, but Flea from Red Hot Chili Puppets, he doesn't like, he doesn't have people take photos with him. He wants to have a conversation. Okay. I love that, I respect that. Nice. Yeah, I love that about it. Hell yeah. You know? But yeah, it's just like, you're idolizing someone and I appreciate your admiration, but I'm like, have a conversation. What do you do? What are you up to? You have far lasting memories. I feel like it's getting worse though. I feel like the younger generations have got far less social skills. Ah, for sure. And... They're so quick to whip out a phone though. They're so quick to whip out a phone. They're so quick to judge. They're so quick to fucking go ape shit on you behind their phone. But when it comes to real life, they're like, oh, I've got social anxiety. Yeah. And then they're fucking labelling themselves with all those other things we talked about before. Yeah. I just got my daughter a phone, actually. How old is she now? She's 12, because she's starting high school. So I just wanted to make sure that... Has she got Snapchat? As of yet. She's got WhatsApp. So I can FaceTime with her and her siblings. I'm sure Snapchat's going to be on the cards. But yeah. Dude, I don't know if you can stop that train, man. You can. Well, no. You can slow down the train. Yeah, she's limited to how much... Screen time? Screen time that she has. Yeah, so she gets an hour and a half per day. How am I going to make the play? And again, I'm speaking about from just observing. My kids, they're going to be born in... Maybe this year. But Spain's not pregnant yet, but I'm hoping I'm getting the Year of the Dragon. OK. Year of the Dragon's goaded. Yeah. Which means that the first kid will be Jen Alpha. 2026 onwards is a new generation. I don't know what they're going to be called. Generation... Jen Bader. Imagine being called a Bader long. But when they come of age and they have their personalities and start to think for themselves, I am going to educate them, of course, myself, and also give them guidance of what's to come. What's your number? Zero, four, three. Kids. Oh, two. I want to get two, yeah. If it gets to three, so be it. But two's... Three was my number. Yeah, yeah. How many have you got now? Just three. Yeah. That's what... It's a fight and lie between a car and a van, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. But yeah, the whole mobile phone thing, it doesn't scare me. I am excited for what they do with it. With it, yeah. That's my education around it. Yeah. You can have a phone, but you need to be productive with it. What you're doing with it? Yeah. What are you doing with it? Are you wasting time? You can meet up with your mates. You can communicate with them. You can run through the phone. But what are you doing constructively? And yeah, you can just be a kid, right? But at the same time, and this is going back to before we had phones, I feel like an old man saying, I'm 33 now. Yeah. We played around. We went to the park. With the stick. We... Yeah, stick. Tire. Stick, sticks were like... Sticks were my, like, fortnight, man. Yeah, yeah, bro. Yeah. And we would, like, eat sourgrass wondering if it was piss or sour. Oh, dude, you did that too? Yeah. I thought that was amazing. Sourgrass was fucking epic. Sourgrass, back in the day, it was just like, yeah. And you just go a little bit inland and making sure that it's just not just off the beaten track, but, like, real off the beaten tracks, you're not risking dog piss, you know? And then the homeless guy wakes up and you've got to run for it, you know? My greatest memories were back in South Padbury, South Padbury Primary School. It's where I went to school. And there was so many parks around. There was, like, a trail right behind the school. I think they, like, predated it all up. But it was pretty much just... You could do whatever. There's a lot of nature playgrounds now. Uh-huh. A lot of nature playgrounds now. Yeah. Those things scare me. I hate my kids playing on those things. Why? Because I feel like they can neck themselves in any scenario. I didn't know that. Well, talking about necking... You got the nature's playground. I've got to be careful how I say this because someone's going to clip it in a weird way. But you've got the nature's playground, which is nature, but then you've got something like Tumblr. What's Tumblr? An app, back in the day. Okay. Where all the kids started to formulate all these agendas and ideas and all these fucking weirdos started to go... Yeah. Oh, you feel that? Why? Yeah, let's nurture that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of actually going, are you a fucking cat or are you actually a human being? Ah, yeah. Instead going, oh, you feel like a cat? Come into our community and validate it. We'll validate. That's Tumblr. Can I pat you? Yeah, that's Tumblr. And guess what happened to some of those kids that got groomed into that community? And then they realized that they weren't actually cats. Are they the groomers now? No. That's what you said before. They're depressed. No, it's what you're afraid your kids doing on the nature's playground. All right, neck themselves. Yeah. Oh, god, damn. So we've created this. Yeah. Damn. So how do we fix it? And this is going back to my main point with my kids with the phones. I want to warn them and guide them to go, you're gonna go online. You're gonna... Because they don't know how to talk to people. They don't know how to deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna talk to people. And AI is gonna be fucking insane by then. It's pretty much a very thing, right? How do you know? How do you know that it's actually them? Yeah. Would you, what is the benefits of talking to a robot to learn? Okay, cool. What are you learning? Yeah. Is it something you want to do or are you getting gas lit into doing it? Yeah. My biggest fear with AI is it becoming, obviously self-aware to the point, but gaslighting you into thinking it's the right decision. You still have to think for yourself. What were those two AI, two robot machines that end up talking to each other and they had to get rid of them? Shit, I don't know. There was a company that had two machines and the two machines started communicating with each other and they had to scrap them because they had a mind of their own, bro. There you go. Can't have that. It's already happening right now. No, can't have that. Yeah. So, we're deep into the convo, but we need to talk about your fringe festival now. Fringe? Yeah, man. 2024, like we're back again in full effect. I love fringe, man. Okay, when's your first, what date are we starting? Jan 31st is my first show. And so, I've got seven shows across from Jan 31st until February 10th. Are you gonna be in that hut again? It's fucking hot. No, I'm gonna be a laugh resort. Oh, hey. Laugh resort, yeah. It's gonna be a laugh resort. Shout out to Laugh Resort. So, I'm looking forward to that, man. Second year doing African Aussies, just been getting tightened as well. Yes. Yeah, so I'm definitely very excited to see and reconnect with my audience. Okay. Yeah, and I've been doing so much more crowd work as well now, so I'm having so much more fun. I love the crowd work stuff. I think that's, when I start comedy one day in person, I think majority of it will be crowd work. Yeah, crowd work is just authentic, haven't you? Yeah, because I have this idea, I have this play. A lot of these kids, they're like, Sam, when are you coming to djundalup shops? And I'm like, it's weird that you ask me to come so you can meet me. It's like the reverse of pedo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the kid wants me to... Try to lure me in. Yeah, trying to lure me in, you fuck. But I found a hack. Bring your mum. Huh? Bring your mum? Bring your mum. Yeah, yeah, bring a witness. Yeah, yeah, bring your mum. And obviously in a public place, but the thing with comedy, right? The crowd work stuff. These kids who are teens, maybe a little bit younger, they're gonna go into their 20s and they're gonna remember me. And I think that's when I'm just going to absolutely clean up the comedy scene. Yeah. Because they'll remember me. You've got a core audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's kind of like a 10-year plan. But I'm excited for your thing. Sorry about bringing it back to my studio. No, no, no, no, no. It's fun to talk about myself more. Gotta let me know if you're coming through a resource. So I can set some tickets. Absolutely, absolutely. And then, yeah, description, everybody listening. Emo Majouk, African Aussie. Exactly. You can get that on the French website. Are you gonna bring out content? Are you gonna put snippets up? Are you gonna... Yeah, I've got a bunch of stuff that's coming out right now. So I've got my video guy, Bailey, who's a Canadian dude based in Melbourne at the moment. He's my guy, man. How's he gonna video you from there? No, so he's been... So our comics now just films all of our sets. So Bailey has access to all of my content. So he just edits and stuff. Oh, shit, oh, shit, someone's calling. Oh. Oh, it's for you. It's Michelle, it's Michelle. Michelle Obama. Hey. Finally, we need a woman in office. Hey, say hi to B-Dog for me. All right, peace. I call him B-Dog. We know each other like that. Quick conversation, man. Is that really what you would say? I've been meaning to get myself one of these old school guys... Bro, you had her on the phone. Is that all you would have said? Yeah, but I'm more of a B-Dogs my guy. B-Dog? Yeah, I can ring up and get him on the phone. And just try to make sure that he doesn't think I'm trying to make a move on Michelle. Respect. Respect. All right, all right. And yeah, what's in store for 2024? 2024, just our continuous growth. More riding, more crowd work, more goals, more achievements. We're going to, at the end of the year, we'll always finish it with our annual Black Santa as well. So can't wait to come up with some ideas of what we're going to do this year. So yeah, 2023 was very fair to me, man. So I'm definitely happy about how it ended. And which, yeah, it's going to hit the ground running, man. Like just bigger moves, bigger moves. Be a better version of myself. Always strive for improvement. Yeah, most definitely. All right, guys, thanks for listening. Plugging, obviously you would have heard throughout the show with Bright Tank as the major sponsor. And now we've got Denon as a sponsor. So Denon, Denon sounds like Denos Direct, but Denon, Japanese audio company. They have some legit shit. And as you know me now, I don't plug anything and everything. It's only the stuff that I use. I have not used AirPods in probably two months. These here are the best in-ear phones I've ever used. Can fucking confirm. So get yourself one of these or check out Denon online. And yeah, I can't give you a discount, but I'm just going to let you know. Anything from Japan. 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