 There is a There's a force How do you do it I will recommend you drive neither special your students. No, no, no, no, that's that's a long lifetime away Anyway, so man, let me See in my recording how my level is good But you look good, man. All right, so this is what the thing is Let's chat that you can talk about whatever you want Uh, I came over here to have really cool conversations because there's that sweet sweet feature over there So i'm just feedbacking on like supernatural beliefs of people I tend to believe that I don't know as tends to be the best answer just full disclosure But I want to know things that you strongly believe is true Like gods karma reincarnation anything like that You have like any spiritual beliefs or is anything that you know, you can't be wrong about There is a There's a force force that we all come from. All right, you can call it god You can call it You know, whatever you want to call it. Can I get your name? I'm tied by the way. Ladarius. Ladarius. You got a nickname Vaan, man, you got a lot of names All right, cool. Ladarius. All right, so You think there's a force that is a god what what does this force do in the real world? Like what's its impact? It creates it. It creates you could call it you could call it You could call it mother nature, but it's on a it's on a universal Scale it's on a galaxy scale Okay, what's some examples Shit trees everything that's natural about earth You know, is there anything that exists? That it did not create Like empty space I mean even rocks farts No, no Fades because it's a lot like it's related to us. You know what I'm saying? It's like Man created age But who created us? I see what you're saying. So it's like it's like a link. So this force created everything. Yes How confident are you that that's true? Pretty confident. I mean, it's it's like uh It's like this whether you're a scientist or whether you're just religion You can be a religious scientist. Yeah, you can be you can be a scientist. That's religious. Yeah, you're not Some people talk about like the craziest hardcore stuff Oh my gosh, did you know? Yeah, the dead body was in the cabinet. Can you know? Like hold on that's not speakerphone come on. All right. Anyway, all right Anyway, uh You believe everything was created by this thing, right? Well, it's created by it. I don't we'll see that's the thing. I don't think it's I'm not gonna put like I'm not gonna try to personify it Or everything is a creation by this force. Yes. Okay, and you are very confident. That's true Would you say you're absolutely confident? Like to the point where you know, you can't be wrong Basically, yeah, there's nothing that would convince you that you're incorrect You're like closed-minded on it. No, are you only open to doubt to a little extent? I'm open to a dialect, but to see the way I The position I take is more of a I always try to look at I come from a place of under I try to come from a place of understanding and not a place of judgment not a place of like closed-minded One thing throughout my life one thing I understood is like Okay, take him for example He's referring to a street preacher. That's just down that. Yeah, take street preacher, right? Yeah. He's over there telling everybody like You don't do if you don't if you don't do this or if you're doing this this this this you're going to hell You know If you don't believe in this this this this then you're lost or you're not one of us or stuff like that That's not For someone who doesn't know like me, how would I know that you were more correct than he was? You wouldn't I mean it's really just it's really about perspective. That's what life is all life is centered around Perspective. Is it possible to have a perspective that's incorrect? Oh, yeah, then what's getting you to your certainty that you are correct? Correcting as far as like I believe like this life was created all of us. Yes Science science hold up. Let's let's help. How you doing? That's a nice guy All right, so you said there's science that supports your position Yeah, that everything was created by a life force Like a big bank there. I mean Would you say then that um, there's evidence that's measurable testable To support your belief What kind of what's the best example? The big bank there you just how just like how plants like photosynthesize or how how they feed themselves like that That power has to come from somewhere. How does oh I hear what you're saying that power has to come from somewhere That power has to come from somewhere Why does it have to come from somewhere and the way this word is I mean it doesn't have to come somewhere But as humans it eases our mind and makes life easier Is something that's easier to believe true necessarily. No not at all then why does Why does something existing prove that it was created? Like for example, we can both point out a tree Or a rock or into space and say that exists But how do we have evidence that it was created by a life force? In my I mean in my opinion, I feel like the life force is like what scientists say like Take simple processes of like you waking up every morning. Yeah, but there's a scientific way That we know this is why you wake up in the morning. Your neurotransmitters does this Yeah, yeah, yeah, like straightening rhythm all that process Who who made us that way who who said like, okay Your brain is going to do this and that's going to that's going to cause this and that's how you're going to wake up Who made that process or not even not even I wouldn't even say who because I feel like if I say who that means like I'm personifying. Yeah, like they need to have an intellect. Yeah, it has to have like a you know, it has to But I don't I don't feel like okay. It's like this perfect example. So you know how they say like heaven and hell and stuff like that I don't necessarily believe in heaven. I feel like we have to make our heaven on earth because when we die Physically, okay, physically dying is just your cells start reproducing your body just rocks out so This time we have on this earth. This is just our time of consciousness. Do you think this is it? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, like this is it as far as consciousness Like you're not gonna when you die. I feel like your soul is gonna Be released back into this energy or this like like vibes or something You never even felt like a certain vibe or somebody like all of the vibe Our karma all of it is just It's hard to explain but it's everything is related everything is But I guess what I'm asking you is You said that everything is created by stuff by a force But the only proof that we have of that is that it exists Things exist if you ask if I said I don't believe something exists and you said and you showed me something Existing I didn't oh you've convinced me that's definitely proof that it exists But if you need a if you're making a claim that something was created what proof do you have that something was created? How do you recognize a creation? Can I can I throw something on you the way how I recognize that something was created versus something that wasn't created Is I'll make a model in my head of what something that looks like if it was created and something that looks like it It's not created then you'll present something to me And I'll be like I know what things that are not created look like and it doesn't look like that But I know what things are created and this looks like one of those things Therefore it's pretty good recognition that this is created. I need to have two sets of things Not created and created but you're saying everything's created like down to dark matter empty space farts aids everything So what are you using as a framer reference? To come to the conclusion that everything's created if you may not have a way to know what something that's not created looks like ignorance Ignorance is not created by the life force. No, I'm saying that's how that's how I'm making sense of you I don't see is ignorance a really good way to be a hundred percent or near a hundred percent confident about something. No, but Emotional wise it makes us humans It convinces us And it convinces us that what we believe in or what we think is right And that in turn Helps us sleeping. Can I ask you something? Do you care if your beliefs are true? Even if they don't make you sleep well at night It's like I'm in the middle Like Say if christianity was like the real religion. It's the religion that was supposed to follow. Sure. Yeah, right now The way the way they're describing it. That's not something I will follow I don't want to follow a religion that's gonna condemn people just because I don't know who you are I hear you. I hear you and I don't you know But what if it turned out that the truth was that there was no life force that things are just here Would that be appealing? No, I feel like if that was true, would you want to know that? Not that I have the answer and I'm not claiming I do but if if it was true that there was no life force Would that be something you'd want to know? Yes Even though it will cause insanity. I'm a one or no Honestly, what would be a good way to know that? I don't know. I mean research or something but at the same time there are functions There are things and functions in this earth that We just can't explain. So how about this? Maybe instead of making the proclamation that Something exists or something doesn't exist And I brought this up with the last person I was talking to There's a very valid Middle position that essentially says I don't know yet, but I'm waiting to be convinced once I have a good evidence It's like that coin flip. Did I show you that example yet? So I got a coin right the Hezartales quarter. It's not a magical coin catch it. It's on the back of my hand now I don't know if it's Hezartales right now. Do you know if it's Hezartales right now? No, okay, so I mean we can go to science and ask them to flip a thousand coins in a lab, but they're gonna give me back 50-50 That's not conclusive. I'm like, okay. I'm waiting. I could have faith that it's heads But that's not gonna work. Probably satisfied that guy over there, but it's not gonna work for us Right, it could still it won't change thoughts, right? And I could have it could make me feel really really good if it was heads Like I can go to sleep at night and make me not go crazy, but Realistically that's not gonna affect whether or not this coin pictures heads or tails So I think right now what we just gave I don't know. I don't know is actually not just an option, but The best answer until we have conclusive evidence. Maybe I don't know until I have better information Is a perfectly intellectually honest place to be? The middle the middle. Yeah The default is how I feel like in life you have to be able to live In the middle like you're you know that yin and yang thing. Yeah, I feel like you have to be able to live with On that border they're just like, okay, perfect example say if you were born In in life and you've never seen darkness right One you wouldn't know what darkness was. Yeah, how do you make that frame of reference and you wouldn't appreciate the Like that you have yeah, it's kind of like like throughout my life I didn't mean to like a lot of pain But because of all the pain that I've been through I feel like personally I'm the happiest person that you will meet nice because I wouldn't know what true happiness was if I didn't True pain or things that were not happy. That's right. And you have to you have to be able to live with that polar opposite like You wouldn't know like, okay You wouldn't know what true happiness is unless you experience true sadness No, you wouldn't know what you wouldn't know what a creation is until you saw something that wasn't a creation Yeah, or you wouldn't know like You wouldn't appreciate You wouldn't appreciate Light if it wasn't for darkness. Yeah, you wouldn't appreciate You wouldn't appreciate the glory if it wasn't for the struggle, right like those in life I've noticed you have to be able to just Like live in the middle. Yeah, my life isn't all happiness, but it isn't all pain, right, right Right You have to be like, yeah, like, okay We're religion, right? I don't know. I don't know. I think that's a good answer Yeah, I don't know but until like it's like, okay until I got better and let's prove to that's why like with my man's over there I went up to him. I was just like Everybody's everybody's listening to you to reply. I'm listening to you to try to understand like where you're coming from Because I don't know like I'm not religious. I would say I'm spiritual, but I'm not religious like Growing up my what do you mean by spiritual? Uh, basically just believing I believe like there I believe there is a higher power Out there. Does that fall back into the life force? Yeah, how did you determine that could be something worth your belief? beyond I don't know Like right now, I don't know if the life force or the Higher powers is so I'm not claiming it doesn't I'm trying to figure out What's the method that you use to come to that belief that you have? And are you very certain in that belief and if you are do you have a reliable method of reach there that Validates that confidence that you have? No, I don't have a reliable way just because What I believe in and the way I the way I got to believing in it. It was because of the specific situations that I personally went through right so personal experiences Yeah, so like I said through the pain that I went through my my out for what made me feel better was Like say if I come out here, and I just sit on that ledge and I just appreciate everything that's Natural about the world like I look at the trees Like one thing when I was going through my depression one thing that helped me was to come out and sit down and just wonder like These trees the leaves these trees and the grass they have been green since the beginning of time Why since the beginning of time? I would I mean I've never I've never seen a tree you feel me basically, okay all the trees you see All the leaves they're green like the bark. Yeah, it's brown. Yeah, like some the dirt is brown Like there's some colors in the earth that are just natural and like I would I don't know who or what or how that came about But I just what if that was the best answer right there. I don't know how who or what how these things came about Yeah, I mean that's really that's really what I get into because like finishing that sentence I would just finish that statement. I would just say I don't know who or what or how this came about But I appreciate you for being I appreciate you for nice you can still appreciate life without having to know Who made The ultimate universe and that's what made it and that's why and I want to still have a lot of beliefs and stuff And that's why I didn't want to say this up there. No, I feel that's why I feel like Without these religions and stuff. Yeah, it's like a it's like a divide. It's like a it's like a control thing It's like, okay. Take the 10 commandments, for example, like If you didn't have if you didn't have a major religion or a law telling you that murder was wrong how How easy would you be to do it or like if you didn't have Something inhibiting you. Yeah, you didn't have these beliefs that have been like Beaten into you from slavery time. Well, just with us. Yeah, our ancestors. Yeah, we had this religion beaten into us to believe like, okay, like Your jesus doesn't look like you. He's white. He has silky hair. Yeah. He's blue eyes. He's african. Yeah Okay, and he's got a friend named paul and tom Luke Really, are you serious? It's like so it's like, okay And they and if you realize I mean if you I'm pretty sure you know But they use christianity as a way to control the slaves control the mess is like they use do you think they use major religions to control people now Most definitely. I think it's the same thing. I think it's the same situation Because if you didn't except now we got the slaves teaching their kids Black people teaching them about it. But really we're all in top of the situation The reason why I do things like this is just to help people figure out Give themselves a chance to think about something never got an opportunity to think about because in a religious Frame set people aren't given the opportunity to critically think about what they believe They just trust that higher ups know what's up But i'm trying to do this to give people a chance to calibrate their confidence on stuff And I find like when people get a chance to really think about how they arrive at a confusion If it's not a reliable path that they use They do one of two things either get a better way There which is great because i'm told i'm not about telling them the wrong I want them just to get a better way to get into whatever the question is Exactly and if you figure out there is a Life force that's true. I want to know about it. Yeah, exactly. But if it turns out that You can't find a good way you at least be more open to the idea that there might be other options out there And who knows what those could be but I think I don't know Is absolutely a good place to be I mean, I don't know man. It's just With everything we didn't been through yeah, whatever I feel like I feel like humans are the smartest most evil Race That's out there probably also the good most good and most generous and the strongest and the weakest Everything we're everything at the same time There are some there are some of us that look at the rest of us. Yeah, that's nothing and that's not okay It's true. That's not okay. It's true. Like my mom. She did 20 years in the military. Okay. My mom's a military too Yeah, she did what branch army almost army to dad army sister navy. I got every branch my family too like they're all They're all military. Yeah, and if I went up my mom she has seen At least three presidents Right. All right, and if I went to each of those presidents and I asked do you know who kassandra sergeant kassandra How this they they would say no, right? Even though she's been working. Yeah, even though she's putting her life on the line Yeah to protect our freedoms You don't know her name, right, but you have the authority to say, okay, I want you to give your life for this patriotism or something like that. You don't even know her name like Can I tell you something about the life force? When we started this conversation it sounded like you're really confident about it I mean, you're like playing with the trees and so look at the trees. That's proof that it exists At the end of this conversation are you more You even said you were close-minded though Or would you be more open to the idea that maybe the full picture isn't there and maybe I don't know is probably A nicer place to be in not saying you have to go there, but do you think you'd be more open to that? I would be more. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, because I take I don't know I don't take I take the I don't know stance on a lot of issues. I think that's a good place to be Yeah, because honestly, I just I don't know like some to a lot of questions Especially with the way the world works and the complexity of even with the complexity of our brain There's a lot of stuff about our brain that we just don't know. Yeah, our brain is like a weird little thing like also though you say our brain you mean like There's there's like two schools of thought there's people who are like your brain My brain says blah blah blah, but I say this this that like are you are you cool with the idea that your brain is you? What do you what do you mean my brain is good? Like there's your brain and then there's you but like they're really going to one and the same. Do you think that? Like without your brain There's a body, but it's not lederous like most definitely that is a non-functioning body at that point But with you without your arm, you're still lederous. You would be you without your legs You're still lederous, but you without your brain. It's no it's a no-go close shot so it seems like There's very strong a little correlation between you Your brain and like a spinal cord and all that stuff and your identity it seems like there might be one It's just like it's just like willy lint said it Where you got he said uh break the mind and the body will follow I feel like that's the way it is or take the mind or something the body will follow Like a mind is the extension of the brain, but they are more or less You need like the brain the mind like out what in my personal thing I feel like the brain and the mind are the same thing like yeah our consciousness Comes from our brain. Mmm. And because I'm a neuroscience major. Oh, look at you, man You're on the right track. That sounds pretty good so far a lot And the only reason I got into that major is because one day like like I said I was out here sitting thinking and I was I was looking at my body and I was just moving my fingers and I was just like I'm not able to do this But my man over there that has a certain type of disease or something He can't control his leg or he can't control his fingers and stuff like that And then that's what led me into like just researching Your brain and how it controls your body and how the neurotransmitters get sent up You know through the synapses and stuff like that just to give you information to how like all of your Your emotions your eyes like your eyesight is in the back of your brain But you might like I just learned it This week that like the right side of your brain controls the left side of basically all of your body. So it's just like Even then this you see the I forgot I don't know the word but you see like the correlation of you have to be able to understand and even embrace The opposite or the middle if you don't know, I don't know but it's so I think I don't know. It's one of the best answers a lot. Yeah It's a lot of stuff like it's a lot of stuff from my mom But it's just I don't know how to say it because I don't understand it and I don't know how to if you want I'll be out here again. And if you see me you want to keep talking about it That'll be cool. You want the quick summary real quick? Von Darius. How do you spell the Darius by the way? Oh man, lad y lad y Yeah, keep going r i us. I got that right so you believe that there was a A force that some people call god that's created the entirety of the universe But I think you recognize that without A model of what something that's not created looks like you can't really know for sure Or confirm if anything's created at all and that maybe at least as far as that goes I don't know might be a good answer, but it doesn't mean that you can't keep appreciating life You know the people and the beauty of nature like that's not limiting you. It's just that I don't know. It's a good Must be until you have that evidence. Is that pretty fair? All right If you want you can take a card I can do a lot of other conversations like this