 A couple of weeks we've been doing, well we started a couple of weeks ago doing our best players, important players from different generations, different managers basically not generations. The first manager obviously was Howard Kendall, number one. Last week we did Colin Harvey, this week it's obviously Howard Kendall, part two. Yeah, so obviously Howard came in back to the club after we got beat by Chef United in the League Cup. So was it 1991 season? In November 1991, yeah. Was that 1991? Maybe 1991. We've done well here with the planning haven't we? I thought you knew this stuff. November 1999. Let's just say that. And he stayed till December 1993. We know that. That's a fact. That's a fact. So to make it a debate, who would you feel was Howard Kendall's most important signing? Most important? Best. We've been doing best. Have we? Well this is, if you say most important, right? It's a different slant because of what happens in the future. If you're saying best. Okay. I know but if I say best there's only one winner. So I'm trying to like broaden the perimeter slightly. I know but... I'm just going with the one. I'm going with man and you go with yours. We'll just have a chat anyway. It's the bigger video, you know this. Go on who's yours? Peter B. Peter B. Oh man. Why are you man? Coming in the club from Liverpool and he was exceptional. He was playing with John Barnes on one side. Howton. And Ian Bush. And he came in and he played with our Lord of Shite. Go on and talk me through Peter B. He was just an unbelievably talented footballer. Being fantastic for Newcastle. You know people forget he was at Manchester United and was released when he played some soccer. Vancouver. Newcastle picked him up. It's a Carlisle of course. Newcastle picked him up. And he was brilliant for Newcastle in his first spell. And the second spell to be fair. Liverpool bought him in. When we were champions we won the league. Which we spoke about last week. And you know our plan was Ian Wilson. And Liverpool's was Peter Beardley. And he was brilliant for Liverpool. He was majestic for them for a few seasons. Obviously won the league there. Howard Kendall picked them up. Surprising Liverpool let them go. And it was a big move because we took a lot of time. But to take Peter Beardley. Arguably in his peak. Exactly he was on a different level to Sheedy and Harper obviously. I think it would be the equivalence of if we'd signed Rooney two years ago. Or maybe three years ago. I think it would be the same. But it'd be like Liverpool selling a lot of money. But I think it would be the same. But it would be like Liverpool selling a lot of money. Not selling but. Selling was like one of the top players when they were doing really. Like for me you know what I'm saying. He was doing really well. Just those buying for me you know. In the summer. Why did they sell them? I don't know. Well they had the old kids didn't they? The barn still stayed for a bit. They got all Dean Saunders they got. To stop us signing Dean Saunders. That's why they got him. They still had Rush didn't they? Rush back. They had Rush didn't they? They had Rush Eldridge. I don't know. Remarkable. But basically coming in. He was unbelievable for us. 20 goals in the season. The problem with Basley was he was too clever for us. So sometimes he did the pass. That had luck. Not great. When you looked you'd say you know if he'd have ran. He was 8 on goal. But he just didn't run. I think if he'd have come. When we had some of our plays a few years earlier he'd have knitted it all together better. But he'd come in. And at a time when we had lost players like Trevor Steven. You know obviously Leenick had gone then. Kevin Sheath he was coming through. He still is the effect of play. But he wasn't as effective as what he had been. Just with 8 and everything. Basley coming and was able to drag us through games. Give you that bit of brilliance. You still had Tony Cotty of course. But Basley was just a joy to watch for us. He was that player that even if it was a tough game you had him. So you had the chance of winning the game because you had someone as good as him. If your team was basically able to compete Basley would be the man that might just turn it for you. And don't forget this is when football wasn't the gulf between 3 or 4 teams and the rest. Even though there was good sides you could still beat them. I mean look at Liverpool for instance when they had Basley and Barnes and Alters they were flying. You could do it. Because you could beat these teams as good as they were you could still do it. He was just a joy to watch. He really was. I think most Evertonians loved him. The Liverpool thing was gone the minute he signed. I don't think that would be the case now. If we got like Firmino say for argument say you'd start warming him because you're a very good player. But there would still be a section of Evertonians or a section of Evertonians that would just eat him because he played for Liverpool. They wouldn't enjoy him. They wouldn't celebrate. And of course Basley so about celebrating against your team he scored a winner in the barbie 7th December. 1992. Mo Joe. And Basley done the R little he's the shuffle. He's the shuffle. This is a fella who a year earlier done the R he wasn't done the R, gave it all that and smashed one into the back end in the 4-4 and all that. He was just a brilliant footballer and like you say when you think back how did we get him? How did we manage to get him? I couldn't believe it. Did they buy one of those kind of players that thought was going to be bossing ended up not being boss because that was sort of I think when they were buying like they started doing what we talked about last week they started to buy shite like the Michael Thomas. Well obviously there was a few rumours going around when Basley left Liverpool coming towards the end him and Kenny I don't think really got on very well and then Graeme soon as coming in that summer Belgris left of course didn't he and he took soon as him and Basley didn't say I think now I think back there was a few wives and stuff were involved and all that and I think that's how we were able to get him so we and I suppose at the time the people didn't really care about selling to us because wouldn't have seen us as a threat it was mad that wasn't it because around a few years before we were league champions and we'd gone fourth and sixth we'd finished ninth this season and at the end of this season so we finished when we signed B's I think we finished 11th that season we finished ninth this season before and then season after I think we finished 12th and then Kenny only made it halfway through the next season and that's when we just escaped relegation he was an amazing player he gravitated ever into another level in terms of he was just brilliant he played and he scored goals he made goals and they just didn't have players on his level unfortunately that was the problem I think if you've got two or three players on that level you'll do well and we didn't we didn't have another striker to supplement him with and we just we just we didn't have a good enough team which is mad because that team had like we had Southall in goal we still had Dave Watson it was a strange mix it was some people coming to the towards the end and there was some people starting off I mean we bought we bought Mark Ward from City so they were like places that City when he'd been to City he was a good sign for him he kind of dropped off he bought Mo Johnson which was a sort of a gamble he scored and that was he bought Ballyhorn he bought Paul Rideout he bought Paul Holmes Graham Stewart Gary Abilett so what he did do was he actually bought well we'll talk about that in a minute because my Yutoff Beardley and listen he wins he's arguably the best but for terms of longevity I suppose Paul Rideout it would be mine now he didn't really do it though with Kendall so this is sort of like the caveat he didn't really do it for Kendall it took him a while to find his feet of heaven I think it was another move for him he'd come from Rangers but he'd been like a barry it was like another move and I don't think he really he was Mark Haley's replacement Mark Haley at last of them and it never worked for him at Rangers and he came to us and it was sort of like again it was like a throw of the dice we didn't have much money we didn't have many options we needed a big striker maybe to compliment the likes of Beardley it didn't really pay off in the first season or so and it really only paid off once Joe Royal came he rarely went Joe Royal maybe knew how to get the best and use him to the most effective but long term obviously he scores the win in a cup final last ever player to score a win and goal in a cup final so from that point of view he's definitely mine but obviously he just didn't do it he just didn't settle I think a lot of these players that he bought didn't settle under Coward but I think when you look back at who he bought and the team he played in eventually it worked in the end because we were talking about it before he had never settled for didn't Howard buy Bob the Pole I'm sure he did I'm sure Howard brought him in he might not have done but I'm sure he brought him in because I think he brought him in after Christmas he probably did actually but he didn't play windows toffy wabs a bit sketchy on this I'm not afraid you carry on with your personal finding I'm gone I'm gone I'm out of my day but I think you're right in terms of what you say a lot of the signings from this era came to fruition under Joe Royal or in that they didn't need to grew into the reverent careers so again Howard Kendall putting down putting down he brought him in that's because he scored at Wembley and he shimmed off and didn't even bother to speak that was 1991 and I think he was he'd only been there a few months just a flying winger I'm almost shitting Howard bought him and that was the thing about it is that a lot of them March 1991 Howard Kendall signed up I think he signed up but I remember Kendall getting him in and he was quite pacey as well he was one of them and he scored a really good goal I was just thinking when we beat Man United 3-0 he scored base and Bob DePaul scored didn't even mosey on and we batted United 3-0 they went on to win the league that season but he came in again again a gamble Kendall had done this with Andy Gray only Andy Gray was a little bit older he'd looked at him and gone wonder why we're buying him and when we spoke to Bob Latchford when we interviewed Bob Latchford a couple of years ago he said it was between him and Andy Gray to come back wasn't it and obviously we got Andy and things went from strength to strength and I suppose Paul Ryder was a little bit like that for Howard I suppose fitted the mould of being a target man knew where the net is but his career had stumbled he brought Precce as well which shows you the level of players that we were turning by well I suppose like to Precce he was a lot of technique really skillful player he was a fan-side player he was an indoor American indoor footballer but obviously 11-side fast Premier League it's difficult to do that on that level but you know like you say Ryder that was he was a big player my point before I realised we should have more players in there he had never self fallen goal obviously both in the first time he had Matt Jackson if we're talking about the 94 team Matt Jackson was a right back he bought Matt Jackson Dave Watson sent a back he bought Dave Watson in the first period Dave Runsworth gave his debut in space Gary Abilett left back signed Gary Abilett Barry Owen sent him a field signed Barry Owen Andy Inchcliffe left me a field sold him from Man City to Heaven sold him from Man City to Heaven so therefore played his part in that deal Paul Wright out front and Graeme Stewart out front so the only players in the 95 team that he had no sort of influence over were Joe Parkinson and Andy Slimpart who arrived on the same day Mike Walker brought in so 9 out of the start in 11 he had some kind of direct influence on of the FA Cup final so that show jet and some couple from his first spell and in the second spell you know went on and sort of eventually found the feat and of course played John Ebbill quite a lot John Ebbill yeah he was the unlucky man he was the unlucky man on the Cup final wasn't very done very well but yeah I mean but that shows you that or Luton Sam or the likes of Abel playing left back or Ingecliffe playing left my field ok that's maybe not what he would have played them they were under way young lad but found his feet playing sentiment field a little bit later on Graeme Stewart so I remember when he bought them and he said this fella is like Trevor Steven and it didn't really work for him in the first year but then gradually he got used to the club and started playing more games started to score more goals Paul Wright out slow start was ever-increasing but by the time Joe came in so Joe took all those little things Barry Orn who had been f*****g a**ed for two years then scored a goal against Wimbledon and then in that season under Joe was absolutely amazing so these players that were either too young or played in different positions or whatever suddenly under Joe Roelfind the different things so it's interesting that so many of that 1915 where Howard's players one way or another it just didn't work out but obviously we know that he had a tough time Howard that ever in the second there's so much expectation and remember when he came in I remember seeing how happy he was thinking good times have run over to him because we weren't we weren't that far away we weren't that far away we finished 9th in his first season that he came in on and the joke he come through we were low on that we were 16 to something we call Navigate so we finished 9th and the Premier League wasn't quite on us yet and there's a lot of optimism that he could repeat a success well he come in and remember we lost the Chief United Columns having a bit of a bad time and there was good players they were just playing playing we got beat the Chief United went out in the cup and Kendall had been Howard had you know had been doing well at Man City he turned him into a decent side you know and I remember we lost that night and he was like Columns going to go and he was just like you know and the next day Howard Kendall he was like he's coming back and you were like oh my god and he come back and I just remember thinking we just took the city I remember thinking we're going to start winning trophies again and Howard's back that's it Liverpool fans were actually genuinely worried and that's it Ed's were falling off but genuinely falling off because they thought fuck he's back and he was brilliant when he was here and that was the optimism and it was like we got we improved under him that season one games and okay we finished 9th which wasn't fantastic but that's summer we got beat we got Mark World from City and stuff and he remember we beat I think that was the first his first season of the second but remember we beat Arsenal 3-1 at home and Wardscourt and just like things are looking good now you know we had players and Beasley was pulling strings and we still had like you've mentioned before Southall and Watson who were mainstays there and you felt as though it wasn't a million miles away and we could get up and get back in you know there was talks of getting back into Europe the Bambi and Lyft and stuff and you were like we can get near A for cup because it was like the top 7 at that time finished you know you just got in it wasn't like FA cup thing and we still got in for winning the cup but it was like the league places were like top 7 or something 6 or 7 you were like we can easily get into Europe and I don't know why when I look back seeing at the players we had it's difficult to see why we didn't because we had the man and we had some of the players I think a lot of it goes down to trying to reproduce maybe what it worked the first time going out and buying like buying a match action being like a Gary Steven getting a green student thinking it's going to be a Trevor Steven buying players and also we didn't I think the main thing is we didn't have the Stikers but we had Cotty but again Tony Cotty was 6 games on the run he'd score for and then he wouldn't score for 10 games we just didn't have we just didn't have ingredients and we didn't have and other teams that got past us you know you know I don't think it was more than anything the centre of the field yeah we didn't have the combination so we had played you know white side went out of the team and it was Barry home at that time it was hot and cold he was no Peter Reed and we tried everything in there and he was alright but he wasn't that next level we didn't have and a lot of people say we probably we haven't had one for a number of years it's a creative midfield centre midfield play someone who could do both the jobs you know someone who could take the ball forward we just didn't have that so although we had Ked and Seedy with that left but which was still brilliant he wasn't the same Ked and Seedy as what he was in 85 obviously it just wasn't the right mix I don't think but we had some good plays we did we did but it just wasn't day time it wasn't day time and Howard couldn't get the best Adam and he couldn't bring him plays he wanted obviously famously he left when he tried to get Ding on Dublin and the club wouldn't give him the two million quid which was 1.5 well now just seems an absolute snip because that's what it was it was nothing it was buttons it was absolutely ridiculous because we it was similar with the Shearer thing you know we allegedly offered 3 million for Shearer and Blackburn wanted 3.3 we wouldn't pay the 300 grand you know and he wanted to come here and all that because obviously Everton and Blackburn and now Blackburn were ambitious in coming up but Everton were Everton at that time and you know 300 grand we could have had Alan Shearer he won Blackburn the league basically on his own we would have had David Natty with Nerval Shaltall and Dave Watson and you know who knows what we would have done so the day on Dublin thing he'd been frustrated in trying to get some signings and he'd identified him and he probably would have done us a job big target man would have scored goals like you said before we had players just didn't piece them together properly we had Cotty so he would have got Noctance, Beagle he was wide would have put crosses in so Dublin would have been effective for Everton and remember we beat Southampton and there was no home on Neal Beagle's court and it was right on the way to the park and the game driving home and it had come on the radio and you were like wow and then it came out and then what really fucked everything up and we tried to do it this season we went six, seven games with our manager we lost six of them now Kendall left we were eight on 9th, Gabby took over and we only had and then we were going to Man City did we draw that no no but Brian Horton was taking over them and he was in the crowd and we just got beaten it was just like I'm sure was it something Griffith oh yeah the young kid and he hadn't scored and didn't score again and it was just one of those nights and you could just feel it sinking and sinking people weren't at the club at the time a bunch of their heads to be honest it just made you laugh because we were such a big part of setting the Premier League up we had such an influence on it as one of the big five and we didn't capitalise on it and we didn't recover for years I still don't think we've recovered because the gap was so big that we're still trying to get it back while those teams at the top are you know they're going we're going 70 miles an hour to catch them but they're still going 90 miles an hour and that's back to the problem isn't it those early years were so were so important they were key because if we'd have had the first good year in the Premier League what happened in those days the very first year in the Premier League was quite even really because Manchester United would have draw and United wouldn't have done anything so they ended up winning the league yeah but other teams like Chelsea and Newcast Chelsea there and Arsenal Arsenal and what happened was they had a better season so they got put on you got put on more the next year and because you were doing well United United had planned for it though they knew like they went out and bought they went out and bought international players you know and people like that they were preparing for they were preparing for that the next step they knew what was coming they developed Old Trafford Ailey in the Premier League do you know what I mean they were like let's get it done now then we can start making the money as we go along we could see where as ever we could still get them run like it didn't matter like someone else was giving you the money but the gaps between the money didn't matter and the name of ever would get you a sign and they were just totally not ready for the Premier League other clubs were others weren't they had more of a name because they had only won the football a couple of years before and they were still a big name because they were playing cups so we just weren't ready for it and we just we had a ball that penny pinched and we were asked about things like the stadium either I think we'd gone for John Moore's obviously bankroll on us you know which is what happened because obviously don't forget money was important but it wasn't the way it is now you didn't go and buy half a dozen players and they brought the Magnificent 7 in 1981 but that was never repeated because it didn't need to be most clubs didn't do it again we spoke about stockpiling and substitutes and all that wasn't the case then two subs you didn't need to buy 10 players in a window so everyone was incrementally building and we didn't do it we just the money that was the first thing thing about Alan Sierra we didn't pay for 300 grand which is nothing and it was not much then really and we wouldn't pay you know and it was like we would have paid this a few years ago and we're not paying it now and we need it and also though it's no one you're going to get about tailing your investment though and of course he was a gamble he had to sell dancing as a young player but he knew where the net was and he was the open common thing and if we'd have got him even if we'd have had him for three years get you off on the right foot he was at Blackburn a long time don't forget even then football's changed him now Alan Sierra was at Blackburn Rovers Blackburn Rovers won the league once in 95 that was it but no one called he only went to Newcastle because that was his club he'd been at Blackburn for a few seasons you know what I mean so we would have been at Everton for a few seasons and who knows who knows what we would have achieved with him as the centre forward but that was just the short I mean Dublin when they had a great great career he scored goals for Coventry United he scored a few obviously broke his leg early on then went to Coventry he scored a lot of goals because he was a big powerful centre forward he would have been a focal point for us and who knows with Andy Incliffe left foot and many would have got those little things like that you can see when you pick it you go along don't you I think we probably said this last week you go along and you just go oh yeah remember that but when you actually unpick it and look at it closely you kind of go no wonder look back no wonder look at the mistakes we've made and whereas other clubs have tended not to make as many as us everyone's made mistakes it's not hard to see it's not hard to see how we've but even fallen away you know going back to some of the developing the club and the stadium and stuff there was no you know even after Kendall but doing the parking wasn't done with any like no one went no one sort of sat down and went like we're doing this parking it's gonna be amazing we're gonna put we need boxes we need boxes and all the rest of it and no one sat down and there was never any plans I remember the first time I saw the parking I was walking in the first game of the season and I was seeing it and that was the first time I'd seen the parking we looked good because everything else all that on the parking before it was terrible but again now someone with a bit of ambition would have gone and I don't know again now it's Johnson but you're going someone with a bit of now should have gone right we need executive boxes we need to bring money and cut that was planned but I'm just saying the plan was those things stand executive boxes all the way along and something above it a bit like the whole thing a filler a bit like Blackburn and a bit like Blackburn that was the plan but for some reason it got scaled back they didn't pay for it that's why the football trust paid for it I think for that park we never paid for the parking this is how ridiculous this club was was run at the time or the people running and again I know it's two different cities but it's people who just didn't have any idea of where football was going and I just don't...that was always that big a problem and I suppose we should probably do this with the next one but Peter Johnson did have some good ideas but for one reason or another but I just think that the club at the time we were just held back by people who thought that's enough, that's just enough just enough is enough and maybe that's carried on for the last 20 odd years but it's like that's just enough but those things that held us back then continue to hold us back those decisions that were made in the early part of the 90s these years under Kendall they're the reason why we fell so behind because you know if you can't you can't compete if you can't compete off the pitch, if you don't have a big shop see as I said go back to Man United and remember that first year in the Premier League or the second year or whatever when Man United were building those ends and getting those ends built and it was almost like well if we do it now then the success will follow don't do it later because then it's like you'll be shutting your ground down but we do it now, we're not losing that much because we're not charging that much but later down the line we will be and that's when we'll lose it they'd obviously looked at maybe the American model and all that kind of thing but I just think that way we were just still thinking football was this and that's the most frustrating thing because we were part of the system that was changing it and as I say it eventually drove Kendall out for a couple of million quid and it's just mad and you know I look at that team and it's sad because if he'd been allowed to take the team on I know in previous video I've talked about Philip Carter but I think Carter one thing I will say about Carter is he had a chance to sack Kendall and I imagine he never is because he believed in his vision he believed that when Kendall told him that Neville is going to be the best and Galli Stephens is going to be great and Trevor is going to be great and Sharp is going to be great and Kevin Ratcliffe and Reedy when he said that Phil Carter probably went I believe you I just don't think that when Kendall went to Marsh and said I need two million quid and it's because I need someone up front who's going to put the ball in the back of the net that is going to take pressure off this team and let it develop and let your Matt Jackson's and let your underwears and let your Graham Stewart's and Barry Owens and all the rest of them develop and we're going to become a decent team you shouldn't know because I don't think he brought into that I don't think he brought into the football club sadly I think maybe that was enough well it was enough to tell Howard that it was never almost like this is never going to be the same as it was this is just not going to be the same so there's no point going any further there's no point because this is never going to get any better and if I'm not allowed to be in my players and this team can't watch the point sadly Howard was proved really well sure because we ended up with a trophy but it needed but it needed a bit of time it needed but it needed both ways because he knew without the striker the team were only going to go one way but what was frustrating about that was and I know it's into the next game but what was frustrating about that was we ended up getting Bret Angel he wasn't getting me wrong he wasn't fantastic but Bret Angel we got Duncan Ferguson in on loan and things like that and within 12 months of Howard leaving you know he was walking so within 12 months of Howard leaving Joe Royal had bought Duncan Ferguson for 4 million quid so we had the on Dublin for 1.4 when we're in 12 months of that the two managers were able to have two centre four well that might have been starting to see the Premier League value maybe do you think that there might have been a question mark over Howard's judgement because of other things I don't know I don't know because I don't remember there being too many stories but we knew we know now we know now and obviously we knew the third time very quickly the third time and the third time cost us Gary Speed and players like that the second time I think the first time he was party Howard and we were successful he didn't matter then he come out the second time I think probably because what went on the second time it got worse his drinking got worse because the frustration probably come out of not going how he wanted to because don't forget he'd been unbelievably successful with us he went to Bilbao and was relatively successful at Bilbao for what they were then he came back home into Man City and he turned them around big time and he had dense sores they looked like a good side so he left there to come to us because he obviously loved us and like you've just said that realisation that these aren't the same people who employed me the first time they're not giving me the backing and maybe things did slip a little bit I think as well I think as well maybe there was issues with Howard because he felt like he should have been the England manager after Bobby Robson Green Taylor got it maybe he thought he should have been taking an England team into the 94 World Cup but Green Taylor got it because he was safe Green Taylor when you think about Green Taylor's record against Howard Kendall's record Green Taylor just hasn't got a record he hasn't got a record the second one playing long ball where it's Howard at the set and you just think maybe you say it about Brian Clough as well no I don't, but that's it they're probably the best suit English managers never to manage him when you think Sam Allardite is bringing a fucking England manager and Graham Taylor and Steve McLaren now Garret Selker you gotta look and go hang on Brian Clough was never giving it Brian Clough who was fucking amazing and then Howard Kendall who was unbelievable English manager a boss English manager who's won trophies since Howard Kendall it's the same one I don't think there is is there so how the fuck was he one of raffle ones Roy Odson how the hell are these men being given the national team's job it's no wonder no one gives a shit about it you're in play fucking idiots like they have done no I agree maybe there was a little bit of that maybe there was a bit of frustration and a bit of why am I getting overlooked when I've won league titles two league titles with everything not only winning league titles with everything being in the same city is the best team in Europe at that time to do it and making and making them fucking toppling them making us the best team in Europe being able to get them and just go bang yeah usually pissing Europe and the leagues it's gonna topple you and it did and that just got overlooked and he went to Spain there he literally had no hands well again no at Spain he went to Spain it fell through and I think he was so set on it that he just went and he took the face he had to come along I don't think to be honest with you I don't think he'd forgiven the Eritreanians for the way he treated them before we won stuff it was some of them were terrible fucking terrible to him ruined his house and his car and shit like that shade that mosaic as well but I think that deep down he thought well ok fair enough then I've won this stuff now and now I'm going there because it's a differential I think if we'd stayed in Europe I would have stayed I think I think he would have stayed but I think with the plan that we'd go on coming to the end of 85 one of the companies cut Europe being cut next year fucking this is the big one I'm going to do with Englishman I'd say I've got nothing because don't forget the lyrics the deal was set in playing about that we ended up getting banned so it was like I want to play in Europe being cut and all that so I think it all played out like that so when he came back for Mark II you know Carver Kendall II he wasn't able to do what he wanted to do and so the frustration probably kicked in and it's a pity because like we've said we've named some good players who went on to be good for us and we've named other players who were there you look at that team I think it wasn't a million miles away it just needed that it needed a little bit of playing a decent centre forward it got there in the end and it wasn't just a fluke and we'll talk about that on the show it wasn't just a fluke it was a decent team but again the same things happened over again I suppose in the next day there was to be a funny video there'll be hilarious the next one but the next one would say the same he would say well I coached them and got them ready for this and then someone else come in and my team won it he could say that he'd be alive what? who could we be talking about? yeah do you have me? we haven't debated much but you can't debate Peter Beats Peter Beats is the best mate I can't even have an argument but I think that the ride out though he ended up playing a massive part and will do forever in our history I honestly believe right there'll be some there'll be some Evertonians out there younger Evertonians that might not even know who Peter Beats is and if he ever played for us I think they will but no one watching this because we've got the hardcore supreme Evertonians on Peyton the takers should welcome as well we love the takers I love the takers but they'll know they'll know who poor ride out is they'll know who poor ride out is of course they will listen it's all the wind I could find them so rightly they'll be held up in high esteem so I win let us know your thoughts in the comments what else to debate that's the debate that part so let us know your thoughts in the comments who wins who wins ride out let us know should have been doing this every week anyway see you later